Bit of a question for the 'IANAL but...' types of people really. I find it highly unlikely either myself or the college I work for are going to recieve one of these SCO invoices. Invoices for what.. I mean, its hardly like they have provided a service.. well, other than a good example of how NOT to run a business:)
Anyway.. so what exactly should those who recieve one of these do? Just ignore it? Throw it away? Talk to a lawyer?
It drives me insane that they are STILL getting away with this whilst everyone just seems to be standing and watching them.. they have no right to do this, yet nothing is happening to prevent them.
Why not spend this money on tackling the real fucking crime in this country. Instead of snapping people who occasionally break the speed limit, why the hell can't they help us track down the thieving pieces of scum who actually steal our cars.. or spend money on increasing the police force which will result in:
a) Increased amount of traffic police which will help have some impact on both these kind of 'minor' speeding offences, and other traffic violations.
b) Reduce street crime if there are more general 'on the beat' type police.
c) Improve the facilities available to an already stretched system.
I don't get it.. this government is always trying to find ways to fuck over the guys who actually pay their road taxes or pay their bills.. is it because we are an easier target? Why can't you spend the money on the things this country REALLY NEEDS instead of scams for the average guy.
I'd even understand it if they spend the money on linking up the insurance / tax / mot / driving license systems so that we can help cut down on the bastards driving without insurance, that puts the cost up for the honest people like myself.
My god, it enrages me so much. I can't wait to vote Labour out of government at the next election.. Blair and his crue have managed to fuck this country right up the arse since they took over and even for someone like myself who pays very little attention to politics, its frustrating to watch this country go to shit.
I have one myself and always wondered if it was worth anything. I just had a quick look on eBay and found one with a 'Buy It Now' value of about $14.. so I guess that it doesn't have any collector value:(
I've only owned a few cars, and I think i've only had to ever change one bulb in that time.. I can think of plenty more frustrating problems in life than changing blown bulbs on my car.
And as for filling up with gas.. well drive a more economical car, or just be a bit more careful with your right foot. I only need to fill up once every 2 weeks and its hardly like its a chore?
Oh yes, thats it.. sue the end users who do not have the money to defend themselves, rather than actually suing IBM who would take you to the cleaners.
SCO.. you are a bunch of fucking cowards.. I cannot WAIT for IBM to have their day(s) in you with court, and when they take you to the cleaners I will just kick back and read about it on Mozilla under Linux and laugh.
As is always the case really.. I work for a college, and our ratio of macs to PC's is probably 1 mac for every 150 PeeCee's. And its a case of a viscious circle - no one on the tech team really knows much about them as the college hardly buys any of them... and the college doesn't really want to buy them as hardly anyone knows about how to support them on our team.
Its frustrating for me as I always try and push alternatives - refurbed cheap (but still hugely powerful) SGI's for CAD work, Linux in many situations, etc - but its always the same old story. Some excuse to get out of it and buy Intel boxes.
From a techie point of view it makes the job easier, but I enjoy getting little diversity in the job - it makes it more of a challenge, and it forces the people I work with to learn new things. Most of them find it amusing to chastise Linux even though it is the backbone of the network - the proxy everyone is routed through, the DHCP address provider, and the DNS servers for every machine.
I think the most overriding factor is money.. MacOSX itself is cheap, and if you could buy it for x86 machines, i'd buy it myself in a second - but the Apple hardware just costs too much, when you consider we were able to get Dell workstations with P4 2.4GHz, 256MB DDR RAM, 15" TFT monitors, and about 30GB harddrives for around $800. Apple can compete by providing machines at that price I am sure, but as OSX really does need a bit more horsepower to get the best out of it, then you really need to spend more to beef it up. How do you justify that to your Wintel loving mansgers with tight purse-strings...?
I don't wear khaki pants, and I never wear computer logo t-shirts.. I usually wear jeans & t-shirts from places like Next (UK store), and I did drive (and am currently looking to re-aquire) a VW Corrado.
There are no Starbucks around here, so me and my friends occasionally meet at Subway for lunch (gotta get a small fill of Americana I guess) but I do rent movies from Blockbuster.
I work as a computer technician but I like to think I do a bit more technical stuff that some of the guys I work with, Office Space was an excellent movie, yes the fake computer hax0ring screens bug me, I don't know about being smarter than the average bear.. and I do smoke week from time to time. Going to Amsterdam in November to do just that actually.
Each to their own I guess, though I think you will be in a minority. I personally think style goes a long way with anything.. some might argue that a car is just a tool to get you from A->B, but only the most dull people go for the crappiest model with no additional styling, the smallest engine and no optional extras..
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I don't think PC users drool with envy over Apple Mac computers.. i'd like an iMac, and if I really wanted one that badly i'd sell my PC and buy one. But at the end of the day, an iMac can't do everything my PC so i'm going to stick with it for now.
Anyway... for me, computer ownership shouldn't be about having to re-mortgage my house just so I can be a trend-whore;):)
Heh.. and if we took that attitude, we'd still be riding in carriages pulled by horses, watching cinema acompanied by live piano or organ music, and looking up at the sky wondering if man would ever take to the skies.
I don't know - I really don't look on these interim inventions as the real progression, but they all help develop bigger better things later on down the line.
And besides.. I like that my cellphone can take photos, or play silly music instead of a shrill and bland ringing noise!
My god.. why the hell is it that no matter what kind of offer people make into the Open Source community, there has to be some nit-picking whiner trying to crap on the parade, or pick holes in it.
...we will see some kind of press release from SCO reminding us how bad IBM & Linux is, just to help divert our attention away from the current chaos of this Microsoft worm.
The rebuttal shows the study to be full of flaws in both design and execution.
I'm not being funny here, but since when did anyone ever pay attention to Microsoft backed or funded tests such as this? They'd hardly be backing this comparative benchmarks and reviews only for their product to get slated. Every time I read a 'Windows 2003 Server is 2.3x cheaper than Linux!' type story (where they end up comparing to something like Solaris which.. duh.. isn't Linux!) it just bugs the heck out of me.
I'd much rather cast my attention to impartial, un-biased sites such as/. for fair reviews of items provided by stores they have no relation to.. now where can I order a Zero Blaster again?:D
And yes, I am just joking around before I get flamed to hell and back;)
16-bit Motorola CPU with a graphics architecture "similar to the Commodore 64, Atari 800, and Apple II"
Heh.. obviously the majority of Slashdot readers don't have particularly high expectations for games consoles then;)
If you think the Commodore 64 was good, you guys are REALLY gonna be bowled over by the Nintendo NES! And hey, they take the in-game graphics off Sega Megadrive games and put em STRAIGHT into the movies;)
There is no excuse not to be learning how to use a computer in this day and age, yet the majority of support calls I get are for people with most basic problems.
"Oh, my start menu has moved up to the top of the screen! No, I never did anything to it, it just went by itself!"
"Everything in my Inbox has vanished! No I never pressed delete! I think I know how to use the email thankyou!!" - "Funny, but our records show that it was you who deleted the email.."
And so on.. most end users think tech support guys just came down with the last shower, and think they can lie about how they have just broken the machine.
Hehe... when you said 'IBM's finally opened the patent portfolio' I was just reminded of that scene from the Matrix where Neo and Anderson are sat in that room.. Anderson sits down with that green folder, unloops the piece of string holding it together..
"We've had our eye on you for some time now..." =)
SCO.. you can come and pry the Red Hat CD's from my cold dead fingers.
Kiss my ass you money grubbing, trouble causing, grabastic pieces of amphibian shite - you will never see a single cent from me, and I hope you get shot down in flames by either Red Hat (or ANY other Linux vendor to be honest), and IBM.
Thankyou and I hope SCO sleeps well on its lawsuits tonight whilst the entire of the Linux community (and most people with an IQ higher than 3) are laughing at you.
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Bit of a question for the 'IANAL but...' types of people really. I find it highly unlikely either myself or the college I work for are going to recieve one of these SCO invoices. Invoices for what.. I mean, its hardly like they have provided a service.. well, other than a good example of how NOT to run a business :)
Anyway.. so what exactly should those who recieve one of these do? Just ignore it? Throw it away? Talk to a lawyer?
It drives me insane that they are STILL getting away with this whilst everyone just seems to be standing and watching them.. they have no right to do this, yet nothing is happening to prevent them.
Oh, and the obligatory - FUCK YOU SCO.
Why not spend this money on tackling the real fucking crime in this country. Instead of snapping people who occasionally break the speed limit, why the hell can't they help us track down the thieving pieces of scum who actually steal our cars.. or spend money on increasing the police force which will result in:
a) Increased amount of traffic police which will help have some impact on both these kind of 'minor' speeding offences, and other traffic violations.
b) Reduce street crime if there are more general 'on the beat' type police.
c) Improve the facilities available to an already stretched system.
I don't get it.. this government is always trying to find ways to fuck over the guys who actually pay their road taxes or pay their bills.. is it because we are an easier target? Why can't you spend the money on the things this country REALLY NEEDS instead of scams for the average guy.
I'd even understand it if they spend the money on linking up the insurance / tax / mot / driving license systems so that we can help cut down on the bastards driving without insurance, that puts the cost up for the honest people like myself.
My god, it enrages me so much. I can't wait to vote Labour out of government at the next election.. Blair and his crue have managed to fuck this country right up the arse since they took over and even for someone like myself who pays very little attention to politics, its frustrating to watch this country go to shit.
I have one myself and always wondered if it was worth anything. I just had a quick look on eBay and found one with a 'Buy It Now' value of about $14.. so I guess that it doesn't have any collector value :(
Great little story.. but you do know that Red Hat 9 comes with XMMS already?
All you need to do is download a quick RPM from the XMMS homepage (it is linked off the front page) to enable MP3 playback and you are good to go.
...The Immediately Slashdotted Movie Physics website!
I've only owned a few cars, and I think i've only had to ever change one bulb in that time.. I can think of plenty more frustrating problems in life than changing blown bulbs on my car.
And as for filling up with gas.. well drive a more economical car, or just be a bit more careful with your right foot. I only need to fill up once every 2 weeks and its hardly like its a chore?
Oh yes, thats it.. sue the end users who do not have the money to defend themselves, rather than actually suing IBM who would take you to the cleaners.
SCO.. you are a bunch of fucking cowards.. I cannot WAIT for IBM to have their day(s) in you with court, and when they take you to the cleaners I will just kick back and read about it on Mozilla under Linux and laugh.
Damnit.. I think this is the only time i'd of been quite happy to discover that the site had been Slashdotted.
Only it wasn't.. and now, even though I spent about 15 seconds on the site, I think some brain cells died.
As is always the case really.. I work for a college, and our ratio of macs to PC's is probably 1 mac for every 150 PeeCee's. And its a case of a viscious circle - no one on the tech team really knows much about them as the college hardly buys any of them... and the college doesn't really want to buy them as hardly anyone knows about how to support them on our team.
Its frustrating for me as I always try and push alternatives - refurbed cheap (but still hugely powerful) SGI's for CAD work, Linux in many situations, etc - but its always the same old story. Some excuse to get out of it and buy Intel boxes.
From a techie point of view it makes the job easier, but I enjoy getting little diversity in the job - it makes it more of a challenge, and it forces the people I work with to learn new things. Most of them find it amusing to chastise Linux even though it is the backbone of the network - the proxy everyone is routed through, the DHCP address provider, and the DNS servers for every machine.
I think the most overriding factor is money.. MacOSX itself is cheap, and if you could buy it for x86 machines, i'd buy it myself in a second - but the Apple hardware just costs too much, when you consider we were able to get Dell workstations with P4 2.4GHz, 256MB DDR RAM, 15" TFT monitors, and about 30GB harddrives for around $800. Apple can compete by providing machines at that price I am sure, but as OSX really does need a bit more horsepower to get the best out of it, then you really need to spend more to beef it up. How do you justify that to your Wintel loving mansgers with tight purse-strings...?
You are semi correct :)
:)
I don't wear khaki pants, and I never wear computer logo t-shirts.. I usually wear jeans & t-shirts from places like Next (UK store), and I did drive (and am currently looking to re-aquire) a VW Corrado.
There are no Starbucks around here, so me and my friends occasionally meet at Subway for lunch (gotta get a small fill of Americana I guess) but I do rent movies from Blockbuster.
I work as a computer technician but I like to think I do a bit more technical stuff that some of the guys I work with, Office Space was an excellent movie, yes the fake computer hax0ring screens bug me, I don't know about being smarter than the average bear.. and I do smoke week from time to time. Going to Amsterdam in November to do just that actually.
Pretty accurate apart from the fashion & car
Each to their own I guess, though I think you will be in a minority. I personally think style goes a long way with anything.. some might argue that a car is just a tool to get you from A->B, but only the most dull people go for the crappiest model with no additional styling, the smallest engine and no optional extras..
I don't think PC users drool with envy over Apple Mac computers.. i'd like an iMac, and if I really wanted one that badly i'd sell my PC and buy one. But at the end of the day, an iMac can't do everything my PC so i'm going to stick with it for now.
;) :)
Anyway... for me, computer ownership shouldn't be about having to re-mortgage my house just so I can be a trend-whore
Heh.. and if we took that attitude, we'd still be riding in carriages pulled by horses, watching cinema acompanied by live piano or organ music, and looking up at the sky wondering if man would ever take to the skies.
I don't know - I really don't look on these interim inventions as the real progression, but they all help develop bigger better things later on down the line.
And besides.. I like that my cellphone can take photos, or play silly music instead of a shrill and bland ringing noise!
My god.. why the hell is it that no matter what kind of offer people make into the Open Source community, there has to be some nit-picking whiner trying to crap on the parade, or pick holes in it.
Put a sock in it.
...we will see some kind of press release from SCO reminding us how bad IBM & Linux is, just to help divert our attention away from the current chaos of this Microsoft worm.
:)
Just one for the MS/SCO conspiracy theorists
Sorry - the "I'm not being funny here" referred to the MS comment.. and the "I am just joking around" referred to the dig at Slashdot.
Sheesh.
The rebuttal shows the study to be full of flaws in both design and execution.
/. for fair reviews of items provided by stores they have no relation to.. now where can I order a Zero Blaster again? :D
;)
I'm not being funny here, but since when did anyone ever pay attention to Microsoft backed or funded tests such as this? They'd hardly be backing this comparative benchmarks and reviews only for their product to get slated. Every time I read a 'Windows 2003 Server is 2.3x cheaper than Linux!' type story (where they end up comparing to something like Solaris which.. duh.. isn't Linux!) it just bugs the heck out of me.
I'd much rather cast my attention to impartial, un-biased sites such as
And yes, I am just joking around before I get flamed to hell and back
16-bit Motorola CPU with a graphics architecture "similar to the Commodore 64, Atari 800, and Apple II"
;)
;)
:)
Heh.. obviously the majority of Slashdot readers don't have particularly high expectations for games consoles then
If you think the Commodore 64 was good, you guys are REALLY gonna be bowled over by the Nintendo NES! And hey, they take the in-game graphics off Sega Megadrive games and put em STRAIGHT into the movies
Sorry - just a bit of sarcasm for the afternoon
Yep.. end users seem to be getting worse IMO.
:-|
There is no excuse not to be learning how to use a computer in this day and age, yet the majority of support calls I get are for people with most basic problems.
"Oh, my start menu has moved up to the top of the screen! No, I never did anything to it, it just went by itself!"
"Everything in my Inbox has vanished! No I never pressed delete! I think I know how to use the email thankyou!!" - "Funny, but our records show that it was you who deleted the email.."
And so on.. most end users think tech support guys just came down with the last shower, and think they can lie about how they have just broken the machine.
Can be frustrating sometimes
No problem.. my mistake. Spent the entire day in a small room moving computers and its left me a bit exhausted & braindead :)
Hell.. i'm not American, but I can take part in a little patriotism on this occasion :)
:(
103k/sec.. obviously not given their FTP servers enough of a pasting yet then!
Hehe... when you said 'IBM's finally opened the patent portfolio' I was just reminded of that scene from the Matrix where Neo and Anderson are sat in that room.. Anderson sits down with that green folder, unloops the piece of string holding it together..
"We've had our eye on you for some time now..." =)
SCO.. you can come and pry the Red Hat CD's from my cold dead fingers.
Kiss my ass you money grubbing, trouble causing, grabastic pieces of amphibian shite - you will never see a single cent from me, and I hope you get shot down in flames by either Red Hat (or ANY other Linux vendor to be honest), and IBM.
Thankyou and I hope SCO sleeps well on its lawsuits tonight whilst the entire of the Linux community (and most people with an IQ higher than 3) are laughing at you.
I'd like to think that 5 Enterprise RHN subscriptions and the 4 day RH253 course I just got back from are helping to fund this partially :)
Go Red Hat! Kick SCO's money grubbing ass.
Keep it up guys.. keep loading those images.
:)
We might finally be able to Slashdot Slashdot!!