Ubuntu, Debian, Red Hat, SUSE, and others already agree to shipping the LSB for some time now.
Well, yes, but with a couple of caveats: debian and ubuntu are not fully LSB-compliant (RPM discrepancies, cf the wikipedia LSB page, also possibly the filesystem layout (/etc/rc.d/ vs/etc/init.d/rc.d/). Admittedly this is nit-picking on my part, as they're pretty much cross-compatible (with alien helping out on the RPM issue) but the discrepancies are there. 3rd party software lining up to aim at a certain "known likely included in these distros" is the real prize, with the seperate distros being able to support those 3rd party tools in a better fashion being a distant concern. There's no downside to this (well, there's one: less variety in software included in the distros themselves. This has the upside of easing support for the software makers, but if there's a security problem in a package they all share, then you'll know that 3 different distros will have it.)
only insofar as it's in the best interest of the nation that our "private US financial intersts" not hit rock bottom and die. There's no "keep wal-mart's servers up!" directives, I'm betting.
You know how fucked the RIAA is going to be if they ever mistakenly copy somebody's critical commentary file and attempt to sue for that file? Or it will happen if one of their artists like Bob Dylan plagiarizes lyrics from a novel about the yakuza.
Wireless is the big one, but using non-Free software to setup standard desktop stuff in not trivial (mp3s, video playback, flash in a browser. They're not part of the OS per se but to a non-poweruser, that's a pointless distinction). I have recently installed Etch (desktop and server) and Ubuntu 7.10, 8.04, and 6.06/6.10 (both desktop and server editions.) By recently, I mean in the last 4 weeks. Debian's not the PITA install it used to be, and it certainly has gotten a lot slicker and user-friendlier than it used to be, so the reputation it has for being difficult or impossible for newbies is kind of unfair and dated, but while it's better than it used to be, it's not nearly as slick and impressive as Ubuntu is. It's the difference between a printout of a.txt file on a home printer and a bound book made at a printer. Or getting a wireless driver working without having to go to the CLI for an hour to mess around with ndiswrapper. Same content, but presentation counts.
as other comments have mentioned w/r/t Debian Testing, it's not a good comparison to Ubuntu; it's central idea is different, which is really what the other replies have been about. Deb Testing is about getting Debian new software and making everything new work well enough that bugs can be squashed. Ubuntu's raison d'etre is about making debian usable for everyday use without making users spend a day looking up config details for their hardware or what chipset their cards are using and what drivers go with what. Testing's cool, but testing's not for desktop users. It can be/used/ for that, but then again, you can also drive cross country on a unicycle, if you're dedicated enough.
I think the OP's point is that worded like this, the article is rumor-mongering, not news. Many/. discussions may devolve into pointless arguments but they are not solely, intentionally that.
on the other hand, his note is going to make publication of my new D&D-style game manual, "Ender's Card Game" much easier. I don't want to give too much away, but Ender's paralyzed attack-from-above is a +9 against Bugs. Sure, some might consider it a completely derivative work, but I'm sure Orson Scott Card will recognize it for the "borrowing" it is and let it pass without comment. Thanks, Orson!
I hope they find a way to tie tools like these together with their existing tools for windows; something like a built-in mremote, even if not freeware/OSS like mremote (although the mremote author today posted that he's going to be moving to a for-pay model and away from GPL).
I realize you were going for Funny, and got there, but for those unaware, Prof. Felton is not new to this game, has done research (and testified about it) on the MS' "IE can't be removed" antitrust defense, Diebold voting machine bullshit, and Sony's rootkit bullshit among a few other things.
He's got bona fides as a researcher in the field, and I believe was asked to do this work in TFA -- DMCA notices are going to roll off unnoticed, like....well, like votes for the democratic party on one of these Sequoia machines, apparently.
they found 8 cars with seats missing, with books on murder, 6-inch swathes of the victim's blood, a shifty suspect lying implausibly with pockets full of money and travel documents?
well, sure, every single other time someone made a "good" virus to patch holes that "bad" viruses exploited, it didn't work out and in fact became a bigger problem than the original virus, but since this is about *distributed* botnets -- waaaaaayyyy more than just one or two infected machines -- *THIS* time it'll work perfectly.
I realize this was not really your point, but tangentially: non-Americans will be spared the wrath of China's economic power because why?
As another aside, American Christian extremist nutjobs and European Muslim extremeist nutjobs aren't all that dissimilar -- American Christian nutjobs are slightly less inclined towards violence, from what I can gather, but even then, I don't know that it's all that great a difference.
They've gotserver versions of ubuntu and there are in fact products tailored for them -- see the Zimbra email thingamajig, which runs on RedHat, SuSE or ubuntu (it'll run on CentOS or debian but will complain that they're not Red Hat or Ubuntu). Ubuntu's been around since 2004, which in the OSS/linux world is goddamned eternity, so I don't see what you're talking about vis-a-vis "short lived" or "fail to target the enterprise".
you (to your PHB): [all the stuff above about layered approach, not consolidating everything, eggs in 1 basket, etc etc]
boss (to you): good idea!
boss to saleshole: [all your ideas about not everything in 1 basket, multiple boxes]
saleshole to boss: of course! that's why we offer failover capabilities! you just need to buy 2 of everything!
boss to you: here's 2 of those everything-in-one machines. you're welcome. oh, and they cost a fortune multiplied by 2. so no raise for you.
not to mention that any of the filtering products (netscreen/FW/IDP) that they produce knock throughput down between 40-60% (depending on amount of traffic -- I have personally seen a 1 gig fiber link drop to 600megs just by passing through a juniper 5200 FW with deep packet inspection turned on (it's turned on by default).
10Gbps is still very far away for most vendors. IPv6 is/marginally/ closer.
Because who wants to eat brain-damaged rabbits with Alzheimers? Healthy rabbits that will remember you right as you're about to kill and eat them, that's what you want. Try not to use their bones in your beard, though. I hear that ticks them off.
This is a non-story, and the only reason it's being pushed time and again is as a kludge to try to attack Bush. I'll admit there are a hell of a lot of reasons to attack Bush (the bribery and scams over illegal immigration/amnesty alone!), but this one isn't it.
Perhaps not an attack against Bush per se (it's unlikely he's setting backup policy, after all), but at least on his (or whitehouse) IT staff's carelessness. If it's your job to keep backups, with federally mandated regulations about data retention, and when someone asks the best you can do is say "uh...sorry, we don't have that" then you're incompetent or malicious. Hardware destruction is fine and dandy, that's a non-issue. Data destruction when your mandate preserving that data? That's an issue.
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Well, yes, but with a couple of caveats: debian and ubuntu are not fully LSB-compliant (RPM discrepancies, cf the wikipedia LSB page, also possibly the filesystem layout (/etc/rc.d/ vs /etc/init.d/rc.d/). Admittedly this is nit-picking on my part, as they're pretty much cross-compatible (with alien helping out on the RPM issue) but the discrepancies are there. 3rd party software lining up to aim at a certain "known likely included in these distros" is the real prize, with the seperate distros being able to support those 3rd party tools in a better fashion being a distant concern. There's no downside to this (well, there's one: less variety in software included in the distros themselves. This has the upside of easing support for the software makers, but if there's a security problem in a package they all share, then you'll know that 3 different distros will have it.)
well, first post in the ubuntu forums and see if there's a fix, if not, you might have to reinstall.
only insofar as it's in the best interest of the nation that our "private US financial intersts" not hit rock bottom and die. There's no "keep wal-mart's servers up!" directives, I'm betting.
I don't know if the RIAA has been caught copying someone else's stuff, but I'm going to assume that they have at some point either done stupid things or have had employees that do stupid things. It's a good thing Bob Dylan's above such petty theft. Although that's pretty bad, that's not as bad as his latest album's similarities with other stuff.
Wireless is the big one, but using non-Free software to setup standard desktop stuff in not trivial (mp3s, video playback, flash in a browser. They're not part of the OS per se but to a non-poweruser, that's a pointless distinction). I have recently installed Etch (desktop and server) and Ubuntu 7.10, 8.04, and 6.06/6.10 (both desktop and server editions.) By recently, I mean in the last 4 weeks. Debian's not the PITA install it used to be, and it certainly has gotten a lot slicker and user-friendlier than it used to be, so the reputation it has for being difficult or impossible for newbies is kind of unfair and dated, but while it's better than it used to be, it's not nearly as slick and impressive as Ubuntu is. It's the difference between a printout of a .txt file on a home printer and a bound book made at a printer. Or getting a wireless driver working without having to go to the CLI for an hour to mess around with ndiswrapper. Same content, but presentation counts.
as other comments have mentioned w/r/t Debian Testing, it's not a good comparison to Ubuntu; it's central idea is different, which is really what the other replies have been about. Deb Testing is about getting Debian new software and making everything new work well enough that bugs can be squashed. Ubuntu's raison d'etre is about making debian usable for everyday use without making users spend a day looking up config details for their hardware or what chipset their cards are using and what drivers go with what. Testing's cool, but testing's not for desktop users. It can be /used/ for that, but then again, you can also drive cross country on a unicycle, if you're dedicated enough.
I think the OP's point is that worded like this, the article is rumor-mongering, not news. Many /. discussions may devolve into pointless arguments but they are not solely, intentionally that.
on the other hand, his note is going to make publication of my new D&D-style game manual, "Ender's Card Game" much easier. I don't want to give too much away, but Ender's paralyzed attack-from-above is a +9 against Bugs. Sure, some might consider it a completely derivative work, but I'm sure Orson Scott Card will recognize it for the "borrowing" it is and let it pass without comment. Thanks, Orson!
well, self-employment isn't for everyone.
I hope they find a way to tie tools like these together with their existing tools for windows; something like a built-in mremote, even if not freeware/OSS like mremote (although the mremote author today posted that he's going to be moving to a for-pay model and away from GPL).
He's got bona fides as a researcher in the field, and I believe was asked to do this work in TFA -- DMCA notices are going to roll off unnoticed, like ....well, like votes for the democratic party on one of these Sequoia machines, apparently.
they found 8 cars with seats missing, with books on murder, 6-inch swathes of the victim's blood, a shifty suspect lying implausibly with pockets full of money and travel documents?
Further reading: http://www.people.frisk-software.com/~bontchev/papers/goodvir.html
As another aside, American Christian extremist nutjobs and European Muslim extremeist nutjobs aren't all that dissimilar -- American Christian nutjobs are slightly less inclined towards violence, from what I can gather, but even then, I don't know that it's all that great a difference.
They've got server versions of ubuntu and there are in fact products tailored for them -- see the Zimbra email thingamajig, which runs on RedHat, SuSE or ubuntu (it'll run on CentOS or debian but will complain that they're not Red Hat or Ubuntu). Ubuntu's been around since 2004, which in the OSS/linux world is goddamned eternity, so I don't see what you're talking about vis-a-vis "short lived" or "fail to target the enterprise".
that's just some congressmen, not *all* government
boss (to you): good idea!
boss to saleshole: [all your ideas about not everything in 1 basket, multiple boxes]
saleshole to boss: of course! that's why we offer failover capabilities! you just need to buy 2 of everything!
boss to you: here's 2 of those everything-in-one machines. you're welcome. oh, and they cost a fortune multiplied by 2. so no raise for you.
exeunt boss
not to mention that any of the filtering products (netscreen/FW/IDP) that they produce knock throughput down between 40-60% (depending on amount of traffic -- I have personally seen a 1 gig fiber link drop to 600megs just by passing through a juniper 5200 FW with deep packet inspection turned on (it's turned on by default). 10Gbps is still very far away for most vendors. IPv6 is /marginally/ closer.
but have you made a game out of murdering anyone not having lesbian sex?
Because who wants to eat brain-damaged rabbits with Alzheimers? Healthy rabbits that will remember you right as you're about to kill and eat them, that's what you want. Try not to use their bones in your beard, though. I hear that ticks them off.
"...you found his fingerprints WHERE ?"
First, a picture: http://www.irreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/donuts.jpg and
Second, a deeper look: http://sbgradmag.org/node/230
well, he's not worried someone's gonna take his job and with coworkers like that, i'm not surprised.
your maze analogy about analogies is confusing to me, can you do something with cars or perhaps a locked house?
Perhaps not an attack against Bush per se (it's unlikely he's setting backup policy, after all), but at least on his (or whitehouse) IT staff's carelessness. If it's your job to keep backups, with federally mandated regulations about data retention, and when someone asks the best you can do is say "uh...sorry, we don't have that" then you're incompetent or malicious. Hardware destruction is fine and dandy, that's a non-issue. Data destruction when your mandate preserving that data? That's an issue.