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Daily Caffeine Protects Your Brain
Chroniton writes "The BBC has a story that many Slashdot geeks will be happy to hear: the caffeine from a cup of coffee a day can help prevent Dementia, by blocking the damage of cholesterol. (At least in rabbits) This is in addition to the already-known protection against Alzheimer's Disease. More research is needed to test the effect on humans."
like it's going to stop anyone drinking it anyway...
If you mod me down, I will become more powerful than you can imagine....
Braiiiins
That's funny, because the more cups of coffee I drink, the crazier everyone else says I am. I must just be the only sane one, sitting here rearranging my pencils after my eighth cup this morning.
I'll probably get modded down for this, but no matter.
:-D
Message to the slashdot proofreaders: The story is being run by the BBC not the BCC.
Ooops.
I don't know about you chaps and chappesses but I have my doubts about my 3-5 cup regime will ever being medically advisable. A glass of wine is good, too. A bottle? Perhaps not.
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Surely the number of rabbits who enjoy a daily cup of coffee is such a small population as to be statistically insignificant.
The more you regulate a company, the worse its products become.
Savior's Cup Of Coffee. Nice.
...anyone who goes into Starbucks and pays £2.50 for a cup of ground beans in a bit of hot water and hot milk, must have a screw loose!
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How do they know it's the caffeine molecule and not the heaps of antioxidants present in coffee?
Res publica non dominetur
This week coffee's good for you, next week it's bad for you.
This week a glass of wine a day prevents altzheimers, last week that was classed as binge drinking and caused high blood pressure.
This week sausages cause cancer, no doubt next week they'll help prevent MS.
It's all a load of old cock. And no doubt a load of old cock either causes or prevents heart disease (depending which week you take your old cock).
simon
Can anyone explain what the difference between Dementia and Alzheimer's disease is ?
How do they know?
As anyone who's ever owned a rabbit will tell you, they're pretty demented to begin with.
And a rabbit on caffeine is just plain scary.
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Everyone knows the sexual capacity of rabbits. You though it was from munching all them carrots? Oh no, it's the caffeine! ( /me goes to make another cup of coffee )
Here's a link to the actual article:
http://www.jneuroinflammation.com/content/5/1/12
I think its safe to say I wouldn't read much into this yet. How many times has medicine been burned by animal studies and other type of non-randomized lower quality studies in the past, only to have well done follow-up studies disprove the originals.
Its like the old potato chip commercial... one cup of coffee may be good for you. I just have a hard time stopping after drinking only one. And drinking 6 - 8 cups of day is baaaaad for you (or so I've heard).
âoeAny society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
I have a feeling deep down that something like that might have a profound effect on the brain.
And sadly... I doubt Slashdot geeks could compete with rabbits on that front, even if The Management apparently hopes othervise, featuring these new adds and all...
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
For this you get funding?
The secret to the energizer bunny's longevity revealed!
I couldn't help but think of Hans Reiser when I first noticed that ad.
until I realized how much it was costing me a month... and perhaps more importantly, I did a little bit of research and found out which company owns Dunkin Donuts. The latter was pretty much the nail in the coffin, and even though I live one block away from a Dunkin Donuts, I have not been there in quite some time.
"Lousy American coffee couldn't keep a hamster up at night!"
What's up doc?
Use your head, can't you, use your head,
You're on earth, there's no cure for that - S. Beckett
Wow, you managed to fsck the design up, (atleast here.) - Please be makink komments on Digg, kthnx'ink ;)
(To *wreck* Digg, you unimaginative clods.)
A horse can't be sick, you know, even if he wants to.
My 82 yr old dad suffers from dementia and Alzheimer's, and I can't recall him being a coffee drinker.
(sips on my morning cuppa whilst typing this)
"People" using "unnecessary" quotes should be "shot".
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Guns are for wimps... Use a crossbow.. this way you can pin them to their chair when you go postal.
With as much caffeine as I drink in a day I should be OK until I'm 100!
but would love to be proved wrong. 3/4ths of my dad's sisters have Alzheimers and all are/were coffee drinkers. It could be that we are the exception to the rule and coffee wouldn't make a diff, but I have first-hand evidence otherwise. On my wife's side, her mom just turned 80 with no evidence of Alzheimer's or dementia, her father died of cancer near his 80's also mentally sharp, and they are/were both fairly heavy coffee drinkers, but they're also Scottish, so that's a bit of a variable.
Personally, I don't like the taste of the stuff, though I do have bottles of Starbucks Frapp in my fridge at work.
When you sympathize with stupidity, you start thinking like an idiot.
Mathematicians are machines for turning caffeine into theorems. Looks like he may be proved right. Mind you, he also used a lot of speed as well. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Man-Who-Loved-Only-Numbers/dp/1857028295/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1207226895&sr=8-1
As a side note, unfiltered coffee contains amounts of the worst kind of cholesterol. So use a paper filter and you should be good to go.
-l
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Coffee helps protect against dementia.
But, it leeches calcium from your bones.
Still, it avoids erectile dysfunction.
However, it destroys a good night's sleep.
Yet it can keep you thin.
But, it might make you take up smoking...
And so on, forever and ever, until people admit that even scientists recognize the world is more complicated than a single factor at a time.
technical writing / development
... whatever. Give me my dose.
The Wise adapts himself to the world. The Fool adapts the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the Fool.
.. how do you drink just one cup of coffee per day?
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Was this study funded by Starbucks? Are they trying a Marketing strategy aiming at the rabbit-population niche? It is known to be an exponentially increasing population.
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Opium was used as a treatment for disentery, arsenic for leukemia, nitroglycerin for some heart problems.
The bottom line is everything can potentially be a cure or a poison depending on proportion (Even water can be a mortal poison).
The truth is that we still suck when it comes to nutritional science. Mostly because it's hard to do proper science when your subject lives as long as you do.
There is in fact a body of knowledge that says that exercise itself is good for the brain's health, and preventing dementia.
Back on the "all things in moderation" kick, exercise certainly seems to be one of them, but in this case I think "moderation" for exercise is indeed a higher dose than most of us consider. I've heard that marathons are actually hard on the body, and shouldn't be done too often, and I suspect that hard-core bodybuilding is a bit much, but most of us never really approach excessive exercise.
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
*looks at coffee cup*
...
"Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!"
(Bunnies can't do scientific research)
(but - THEY - CAN - DANCE)
Its a good thing all /. readers are rabbits, so this data is useful. Because otherwise.......I'd be RTFA for nothing
I thought my rabbit was going to be perfectly healthy on a diet of hay and fresh greens. How many cups of coffee should he be drinking daily to be safe?
Adopt a rabbit!
welcome our new coffee drinking bunny overlords.
I don't believe this. Interesting to see which wires will pick this story up.
Thanks for pointing out the side effects BBC !!
I just feel I have to point out that you misspelled a key word in the summary. You wrote "coffee" while everyone here knows that it is spelled "mountain dew".
...and have coffee in the morning, water in the afternoon and vodka in the evening! I'm healthy as a horse! Save for the fact I now get erections when I walk by cardboard boxes...
"Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted." -Groucho Marx
If you want to find new drinks I actually drink one new energy drink almost every day and review them. I am actually up to over 200 reviews. I just never liked coffee but need caffeine through out college to stay up and study (CS major), so I started trying every Energy drink I could find to see if I liked some, and my hobby was born. My 200+ Energy Drink Reviews
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This made me jump to Louis Black's rant on eggs... "...What about eggs? Now they're saying eggs are bad for you. ... First they were bad, then they were good... then the yolks were bad but the *stammers* MAKE UP YOUR MIND!! It's breakfast and I gotta eat..."
Seriously.
I have a family history of diabetes, heart disease, cancer, and depression. I used to be all kinds of concerned with my health and how I should treat myself so I used to read magazines like Men's Health and others, as well as check out what the web said about other health issues. I used to worry about what kind of exercise I was or wasn't getting. I used to really worry about the kind of crap I was eating or if I was getting all the vitamins and whatnot that I should've. I had my subscription for something like 6 years or so, but I quit worrying about that when I used to notice patterns that whatever advice anyone anywhere would ever give, someone else would contradict that later on. I don't have a photogenic memory but I would remember enough to realize this, and so I basically said fuck it... whoever said it first had it right when they said 'almost everything is good in moderation.' Now you can read all kinds of articles on how good fermented beverages are good for you and how they are bad and blah blah blah. Well there's few things that should not be done in moderation (modern refined street drugs for one), but everything else should be handled reasonably well by most people in moderation, but YMMV. Just don't go overboard on any one thing and you should be OK.
...and get some advertisements for lawyer services to go with the above mentioned Russian brides add.
You know... for prenuptial agreements, possible run-ins with Russian and international law enforcement, child custody, possible indictments of murdering your spouse...
Just in case...
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
Perhaps the huge amounts of coffee I drink is offsetting the effects of the statin drug I take which is apparently working hard to make me stupid.
Protects the remainder of my brain.
Criminally Forever,
George W. Bush
My Grand Pa is almost 90 yrs old, in sound mind and health and is on his way to outlive all his children. He is well versed in Philosophy and can eloquently talk to you for hours on the end, keeping you engaged at the same time. What is more notable is that his interest in Philosopy came about after he retired at 65!!!!
His secret? 9 cups of coffee a day till a few years ago. And loads of veggies and fruits
every day.
-Anon
Well what about this bunny
Personally, I don't like the taste of the stuff,
The study talks about caffeine, not coffee. They didn't get the rabbits to drink coffee, just gave them caffeine (the BBC summary doesn't explain how).
Plenty of sources of caffeine. If you really don't want to take it in a drink, just pick up a package of "Wake Ups" or "NoDoz" -- caffeine pills equivalent to a cup of strong coffee each. I used to take those for long all-night driving trips when I didn't want to drink that much coffee or caffeinated soda.
-- Alastair
"Daily Caffeine Protects Rabbits' Brains"
Dunno about anyone else here, but I'm at least fairly certain that I'm not a rabbit...
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it's 6 parts not 5.
me: "Scotty, I need more coffee!"
Scotty: "Sorry capt'n, you cannae take it anymore!"
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My mother-in-law is now several years into serious Alzheimer's, and she drank coffee every day of her adult life. Same with my paternal grandfather... he was diagnosed with it before he died, and he was a heavy coffee drinker.
I've been suspicious of the "Food X has effect Y on people" studies since the 90's, when we found out that all of those "bran can prevent cancer" studies were essentially bullshit. Followup studies showed that the only thing all of those people got out of eating millions of bran muffins in the 80's was tasteless food.
Life is hard, and the world is cruel
I see nobody here has even begun to contemplate the pain and suffering of the rabbits involved in this blatantly fraudulent 'research'.
Yet another useless series of experiments, performed on FEELING beings, otherwise known as animals, and all the comments here are basically "How does this affect ME?".
Perhaps you could explain to yourselves how you CHOSE to be born as human beings, and not as animals.
This 'research' will result in absolutely nothing. No cures for humans.
The ONLY thing that brings about cures in humans is HUMAN research. Of course, you'll say "It's wrong to experiment on humans" - but we ALREADY experiment on humans - it's called 'clinical trials'.
92% of drugs FAIL clinical trials - human experiments - after 'passing' animal experiments. Which proves that animal 'research' doesn't predict human outcomes, and is therefore a huge fraud.
So before you carry on bullshitting about whether this 'research' affects YOU or not, look at the whole picture- the sort of evil psychopaths who get off on torturing animals all day, are also the same people who couldn't give a toss whether they were finding a 'cure' or not - they know they're too stupid to find a cure, so they carry on with their 'research' and their jobs for life- imagine that - getting paid for FAILING at your job.
Where can the PETA crowd now buy coffee that hasn't been tested on rabbits?
It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
Sheesh... comedy is comedy... so you don't like the guy's style. You think that his delivery is juvenile. Maybe you also don't like George Carlin because of his language, or Richard Pryor because of his drug use, Carlos Mencia because of his blatant use of the race card, or Robin Williams because of the sometimes incoherent nature of his presentation. To me comedy comes in many forms - and it's purpose is to shed light on some of those peculiarities of human nature. I would never do or say half the things I have ever heard in comedy routines, but they do poke fun at some of my insecurities and values and make me learn a little bit more about myself. Maybe it's because I've never been very social and that since some of the comedy stuff echoes what I experience, it's a way of feeling less alone or knowing that other people have the same insecurities. Or maybe it's just that people have different tastes and I don't really give a flying fuck what someone on the internet says (because here everyone's important and their opinion is law.) They have experienced things that I may never in my life get to, so I will take any chance to learn about things I may never be exposed to. I like talking to the diverse group of people that I meet - It feels good knowing that no matter what walk of life you come from, there's things that tie us all together.
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1 cup of coffee, not a frigging desert poised as a 'coffee'
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Protects your brain, maybe. Makes your dick bigger, definitely not. Pleases the taste buds, absolutely.
Ummm... how do you know when rabbits have dementia?
Semi-automatic amateur armchair Australian philosopher; conjecture ready at any moment...
Right, because all of the people suffering from dementia today didn't drink coffee every day.
That's all they drank! That's all there was in the 40s!
Who pays for this kind of research, and why don't they have a subscription to any sort of reality?
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My dad drank coffee all the time. He is now pushing 80 and suffers from the same dementia that clouded his mother and probably every generation of my family going back through time.
I am no doubt fated to run into the same problems when I get older (and sometimes worry that I'm getting close). All of these people drank copious amounts of coffee.
I have an IQ of 148. My dad seemed awfully sharp and perceptive too. Until genetics and perhaps environmental factors destroyed his brain. Now he's easily confused and doesn't always know what's going on around him. My grandmother would leave the house hoping to walk to the old farm she lived in, without knowing where it actually was. Coffee didn't do anything to fix their problems.
Arrange two pens to touch at the tips, forming an acute angle between them (say, 30 degrees). Insert the third pen to nestle into the angle, touching both of the other pens. Now these three pens form a sort of arrow-shaped formation and are almost parallel (within, say, 30 degrees).
Arrange the fourth, fifth, and sixth pens the same way, and lay them on top of the first three pens in an orthogonal direction, so that the "arrow" formed by the 4th, 5th, and 6th pens is perpendicular to that formed by the first three pens.
Then post on Slashdot in a smug manner.
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Actually, one of my favorite comic strips happens to be about caffeine this week.
I have mod points. The reign of terror begins now. ... but if I can see the message, you can't be moderating in this article! Not much of a reign of terror, surely, is it?
Look out!
You comments have been noted. In fact I have 10 shiny new mod points just waiting for you, "zsau" and it will be easy to find you on another thread....MUAHAHAHAHA!!!
I have mod points. The reign of terror begins now.
Once again, some humorless douche gets mod points and has to strike down a joke as "off-topic"...
/Off soap-box
//Blow another point modding me down if you want
///Blow me
A joke referencing the parent or GP is hardly off-topic*, but good jorb there Mr. Grumpy-moderator, burning someones karma for honestly trying to be funny. We can't let people go about doing that on our "serious and mature" forum, can we?
COME ON people! This is a Slashdot posting about caffeine we're commenting on, not a forum on some scholarly article in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Science. This sort of anti-humor modding seems to be happening way too often lately; it's like there is some crusade to make Slashdot "serious"
If you don't like the Slash-humor, ignore it, or move to an actual "serious" forum. Otherwise, try to mod-UP the comments you actually like. If you must mod people down to validate your self-worth, there are plenty of actual trolls lurking about. Heck, just pick one of twitter's sock-puppets and you can have a full-time job modding down (or up, if you like him).
*I can see modding it redundant if the joke had been made many, many times over, but this was the second time.
"Cheeze it!" - Bender
And caffeine also has a nasty tendency towards increasing stress and blood pressure, increasing your risk of a stroke.
Thank you and have a nice day.
"No problem. I have the capacity to do infinite work so long as you don't mind that my quality approaches zero."-Dilbert
This reseach has been brought to proudly by: Folgers Coffe.
...in rabbits? Do they just wander around wishing everyone a Merry Christmas?
Does this mean the world is now safe from marauding bands of demented rabbits?