Re:Not necessarily the war yet
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scripsit Patoski:
The troops are over there risking life and limb and when they tune into TV and they see all these protesters demonstrating against the war they're fighting it could potentially be very demoralizing.
What will demoralize troops is a realization that the cause they're fighting for is unjust. If demonstrations cause the troops to realize that, it's not the fault of the demonstrations -- it's the fault of those who sent the troops to fight an unjust war.
Blaming the demonstrators is like blaming the oncologist for telling you the tumor is malignant.
It is sometimes useful to know a language that no-one else in the room speaks, and I think that this is one of Alan's reasons for learning, but I prefer Latin for this purpose. The structure is more logical.
Beware on two fronts. First, it is dangerous to assume that people don't speak the language you're using. I have had friends burned this way with several languages, not expecting (for example) that people in Arizona speak Hebrew, or that people in Germany speak Greek. Or that cute blonde English girls speak both modern colloquial and classical Arabic.
Also, with Latin in particular, most European languages have enough Latin vocabulary that people may pick up what you're saying... If you shoot me a look and say to your buddy ``asinus est ille Americanus,'' I don't need a whole lot of Latin to know you just insulted me.
If I've already got (say) forty-five eMacs and I get the funds to add five more to my lab, is it inconceivable that I'd want to get five more like the ones I have...
I'd say that if you had the budget, you'd want to buy 5 more eMacs, and not 5 discontinued iMacs.
<shame>OK, so I can't type.</shame>
I meant if you already had a bunch of iMacs, you might want to maintain that standardization.
...but still avalailable to educational establishments.
What's with that? They think that schools are so used to old equipment, they can continue to flog their discontiued lines to them???!
Maybe an institution would have an interest in a standard platform? If I've already got (say) forty-five eMacs and I get the funds to add five more to my lab, is it inconceivable that I'd want to get five more like the ones I have, so I don't need to support an additional hardware configuration?
Great, now we have trim levels for distros. Anti-lock brakes? Sorry, you need the EX for that. I don't care if you don't want a sunroof; EXs come with a sunroof.
Re:I thought we already had an XML standard for do
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scripsit realdpk:
"How the hell can I cite where in a book I got a quotation if there is no standard pagination? Count paragraphs?"
How the hell did people do it before computers? What do you do when you're citing an offline book?
Um, you cite the page number in every style I know of.
How does XML magically handle that?
The point was that HTML provides no way to ensure that two people reading your work have the same pagination. (And I'm not saying HTML sucks, it's just not what HTML was meant to do.) I didn't say ``use XML vice HTML.'' I was responding to someone who said (roughly) ``we don't need any other kind of XML for document preparation, because we already have (X)HTML.''
Re:I thought we already had an XML standard for do
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scripsit dasmegabyte:
Well, the key is you have to be ready to do it a different Right Way.
Well, if you can convince your university's format committee to pitch their format guide and that a ``different Right Way'' is OK, more power to you. That's not a battle I would want to fight, though.
I'm doing it in HTML for ubiquity's sake, and because it means I can work anywhere.
Which is why I use LaTeX and vim for my papers. My preference these days is to use a laptop at a coffee house, personally, but to each his own.
When I was an undergrad in 2000, I used to print out my rhet essays on greenbar.
Speaking as one who grades essays, I can tell you that's a good way to irritate your grader. I expect students to follow style instructions, and an ASCII dump to line printer is not part of the style guide. (I don't want one essay printed on different size paper than everyone else's, and I want to see italics used properly, and French and German names spelled correctly...)
Re:I thought we already had an XML standard for do
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scripsit dasmegabyte:
Or isn't this [HTML] good enough?
Personally, I only use a word processor to re-markup things I've written in HTML. That includes my dissertation. HTML isn't super printer friendly, but come on, we're all trying to go paperless anyway, right?
If you can submit a dissertation as an HTML file, your university is a very different place than mine.
Isn't HTML good enough? No, it's not. It's not even remotely close to good enough for doing a dissertation. It can't do footnotes; in my field, that eliminates it from the get-go. Not to mention that it can't do indices, tables of contents, figure numbering, cross-references, etc.
For academic work, it is very important that your work be citable. How the hell can I cite where in a book I got a quotation if there is no standard pagination? Count paragraphs?
What I want is XML TeX. For writing a dissertation, use (La)TeX. It can't be beat. And it's open, so you can write a converter to make it into XML -- or vice-versa, like docbook.
Part of the OS? anything that administers hardware (drivers, memory managers, filesystem software, schedulers, etc).
What about an X server? XFree86, running with a hardware display, seems to me to fit your definition of ``part of the OS.'' It certainly administers hardware (the video card, mouse, and display). eXceed, OTOH, runs on top of the Windows GUI and talks just to the window manager, not to the hardware. So an X server can be part of the OS, or not. Doesn't seem so clean.
In the USA, I believe the term "professor" is used as the title for anyone with a Ph.D, who is working in a teaching position of any sort. In other systems (for example, the more UK-derived one in Australia), Professor is a very senior member of a Faculty - usually a Faculty will have only one or two Professors, then a few Associate Professors, then everyone else is a Lecturer of some grade.
Sort of... ``Professor'' is used loosely to mean the person teaching a university course, but properly only a minority of the instructors are full professors. Rather than lecturers, the junior faculty (another difference -- faculty are the instructional people, not the department as a whole) are called assistant professors. Once they've got a few years they become associate professors. Not all ever become full professors; my department has an old and well-respected instructor who will always be an associate professor, probably because he doesn't publish. Our associate chair is not even a full professor. We sometimes have ``faculty associates'' or ``instructors'' who are not really professors at all even though they may have Ph.D.s and they teach university courses.
FWIW, the U.S. system is also U.K.-derived, just a lot longer ago;)
Ok, I suppose it's time to stray back from off-topic land:->
Crates also seems connected to Kratos (or power, as in Democracy") so it may mean Horse of Power, or "Strong Horse."
From looking at Perseus, krates looks like an adjectival ending derived from kratos. Hippokrates would, in fact, then mean ``horse-powerful'' or something like that. Pankrates means ``all-powerful'' (similar to Pankrator, a title of Christ); akrates means ``powerless.'' Perseus has a list of words with this ending.
(Bleedin' lameness filter won't let me paste in any non-Latin 1 chars...)
I don't know why I'm bothering to reply to an AC... Yes I do, because the irony is just too amusing.
scripsit anonymously some coward:
None of you has ever accomplished anything of note in this industry. Shut up and do that FIRST, and then people will listen to you. Until then your opinion is meaningless.
Ah, right. Your opinion clearly is meaningful then. Thanks for clearing that up for us, monsieur AC.
How about this: your OS is an OS, not an app. Your OS is a service provider between hardware and apps. Apps do things like play media files, browse the web, etc.
These things aren't always clear cut. I think we'd all agree that The GIMP is an application, for example. What about Galeon? I say app. How about your window manager? File manager? Not so easy. How 'bout cat? Part of the OS? less? bzip2? I'm not going to make that call.
This is why the problem is so difficult, because there's no clear line, unless you say that the OS is just the kernel. (Then it really is just Linux, and not GNU/Linux. <grin>) I've done Linux from Scratch before, and I've come to appreciate a distro that comes with a bit more...
I can see how a Windows user, unfamiliar with all the ramifications of MS's anticompetitiveness, would say he wants all he can get to ``come with Windows.'' When I was younger, I thought it was pretty cool that DOS had started to come with defrag or whatever it was called; it took time to realize that this wasn't necessarily a good thing.
The idea of watching streaming media while doing sys admin tasks is something that you just can't beat...
Um, why do you need speakers on servers for this? Or a media player? I've got speakers and a media player on my workstation (and my laptop for that matter); if I need to mess with a server, that's what ssh is for.
(Running mpg321 over a ssh connection to the server is a good way to give someone a heart attack if the server does have speakers, BTW, especially if you choose the mp3 and your timing carefully... aumix -v 100 && mpg321 evil.mp3)
An American I know told me that is the U.S., an institution is a college if it just offers Bachelor's degrees, and a university if it has Masters' programs.
OK, I'll put on my Yank academic hat for a moment...
In the States, ``college'' has many overlapping meanings. It can mean:
A division within a university, based on subject matter -- i.e., a faculty. For example, a university might have a college of business, a college of engineering, a college of arts, etc. (Each of those would be further subdivided into departments.)
A usually small institution granting bachelor's degrees, typically not in the full range of subjects. These usually do not have graduate programs, and often are liberal arts only.
A two-year institution teaching general studies and technical fields. These are typically called ``community'' or ``junior'' colleges. Many students start there and finish bachelor's degrees at state universities.
In non-precise usage, any two- or four-year college, institute, or university. Americans don't say ``university student,'' they say ``college student'' even if he is at a university. Similarly, ``when I was in college'' often means ``when I was at university.''
FWIW, ``college'' almost never means a secondary or preparatory school (i.e., high school or gymnasium) in the States.
Oh, and there's no legal restriction on these terms, so you will find totally unaccredited ``universities'' of massage, for example, or tech schools calling themselves universities (DeVry, for example).
As an example: what about psych students putting together a final presentation? Imagine trying to do that without powerpoint.
Strangely enough, I don't have a hard time imagining that at all. I've put together quite a few presentations without PowerPoint. In fact, I've never used PowerPoint to create a presentation at all, only to edit other people's. When I was constrained to Windows (and before there was OpenOffice), I used CorelDRAW! and the WordPerfect presentation application. Now, between OpenOffice Impress and OpenOffice Draw, there's no reason even a psych major can't do a presentation on Free software.
I am required to answer people as soon as the mail comes in. It is expected, that I stop programming and answer my email ASAP, in case the problem being reported is an emergency.
Anyone using e-mail for emergency communication should be flogged. It's just not that reliable -- have they never seen a mail server sit on an e-mail for ten hours because of a network glitch?
head phones aren't allowed in my office,
So they're willing to give you an office with walls and a door, so your music doesn't bother anyone else? Sweet.
So. great advise. Wish i could use. it.
Sounds like a particularly clueless and geek-hostile firm.
scripsit Patoski:
What will demoralize troops is a realization that the cause they're fighting for is unjust. If demonstrations cause the troops to realize that, it's not the fault of the demonstrations -- it's the fault of those who sent the troops to fight an unjust war.
Blaming the demonstrators is like blaming the oncologist for telling you the tumor is malignant.
scripsit TheRaven64:
Beware on two fronts. First, it is dangerous to assume that people don't speak the language you're using. I have had friends burned this way with several languages, not expecting (for example) that people in Arizona speak Hebrew, or that people in Germany speak Greek. Or that cute blonde English girls speak both modern colloquial and classical Arabic.
Also, with Latin in particular, most European languages have enough Latin vocabulary that people may pick up what you're saying... If you shoot me a look and say to your buddy ``asinus est ille Americanus,'' I don't need a whole lot of Latin to know you just insulted me.
scripsit inputsprocket, quoting me:
<shame>OK, so I can't type.</shame>
I meant if you already had a bunch of iMacs, you might want to maintain that standardization.
scripsit inputsprocket:
Maybe an institution would have an interest in a standard platform? If I've already got (say) forty-five eMacs and I get the funds to add five more to my lab, is it inconceivable that I'd want to get five more like the ones I have, so I don't need to support an additional hardware configuration?
Not everything's a conspiracy...
scripsit Planesdragon:
*sigh*
I don't use Linux because it has a better GUI than Windows. I use Linux because the actual OS is better than Windows.
I use IceWM because it has a better GUI than Windows.
scripsit Furry Ice:
Did you roll your own? I only see 1.2.7-6 in sid.
scripsit macshune:
Maybe it's a nilbog server...
WTF does this have to do with a new Mozilla release? There are other forums where you can spread nationalist hatred.
Great, now we have trim levels for distros. Anti-lock brakes? Sorry, you need the EX for that. I don't care if you don't want a sunroof; EXs come with a sunroof.
scripsit realdpk:
Um, you cite the page number in every style I know of.
The point was that HTML provides no way to ensure that two people reading your work have the same pagination. (And I'm not saying HTML sucks, it's just not what HTML was meant to do.) I didn't say ``use XML vice HTML.'' I was responding to someone who said (roughly) ``we don't need any other kind of XML for document preparation, because we already have (X)HTML.''
scripsit dasmegabyte:
Well, if you can convince your university's format committee to pitch their format guide and that a ``different Right Way'' is OK, more power to you. That's not a battle I would want to fight, though.
Which is why I use LaTeX and vim for my papers. My preference these days is to use a laptop at a coffee house, personally, but to each his own.
Speaking as one who grades essays, I can tell you that's a good way to irritate your grader. I expect students to follow style instructions, and an ASCII dump to line printer is not part of the style guide. (I don't want one essay printed on different size paper than everyone else's, and I want to see italics used properly, and French and German names spelled correctly...)
scripsit dasmegabyte:
If you can submit a dissertation as an HTML file, your university is a very different place than mine.
Isn't HTML good enough? No, it's not. It's not even remotely close to good enough for doing a dissertation. It can't do footnotes; in my field, that eliminates it from the get-go. Not to mention that it can't do indices, tables of contents, figure numbering, cross-references, etc.
For academic work, it is very important that your work be citable. How the hell can I cite where in a book I got a quotation if there is no standard pagination? Count paragraphs?
What I want is XML TeX. For writing a dissertation, use (La)TeX. It can't be beat. And it's open, so you can write a converter to make it into XML -- or vice-versa, like docbook.
scripsit jotaeleemeese:
What about an X server? XFree86, running with a hardware display, seems to me to fit your definition of ``part of the OS.'' It certainly administers hardware (the video card, mouse, and display). eXceed, OTOH, runs on top of the Windows GUI and talks just to the window manager, not to the hardware. So an X server can be part of the OS, or not. Doesn't seem so clean.
Sort of... ``Professor'' is used loosely to mean the person teaching a university course, but properly only a minority of the instructors are full professors. Rather than lecturers, the junior faculty (another difference -- faculty are the instructional people, not the department as a whole) are called assistant professors. Once they've got a few years they become associate professors. Not all ever become full professors; my department has an old and well-respected instructor who will always be an associate professor, probably because he doesn't publish. Our associate chair is not even a full professor. We sometimes have ``faculty associates'' or ``instructors'' who are not really professors at all even though they may have Ph.D.s and they teach university courses.
FWIW, the U.S. system is also U.K.-derived, just a lot longer ago ;)
What was the topic again?
scripsit einhverfr:
From looking at Perseus, krates looks like an adjectival ending derived from kratos. Hippokrates would, in fact, then mean ``horse-powerful'' or something like that. Pankrates means ``all-powerful'' (similar to Pankrator, a title of Christ); akrates means ``powerless.'' Perseus has a list of words with this ending.
(Bleedin' lameness filter won't let me paste in any non-Latin 1 chars...)
I don't know why I'm bothering to reply to an AC... Yes I do, because the irony is just too amusing.
scripsit anonymously some coward:
Ah, right. Your opinion clearly is meaningful then. Thanks for clearing that up for us, monsieur AC.
scripsit praedor:
These things aren't always clear cut. I think we'd all agree that The GIMP is an application, for example. What about Galeon? I say app. How about your window manager? File manager? Not so easy. How 'bout cat? Part of the OS? less? bzip2? I'm not going to make that call.
This is why the problem is so difficult, because there's no clear line, unless you say that the OS is just the kernel. (Then it really is just Linux, and not GNU/Linux. <grin>) I've done Linux from Scratch before, and I've come to appreciate a distro that comes with a bit more...
I can see how a Windows user, unfamiliar with all the ramifications of MS's anticompetitiveness, would say he wants all he can get to ``come with Windows.'' When I was younger, I thought it was pretty cool that DOS had started to come with defrag or whatever it was called; it took time to realize that this wasn't necessarily a good thing.
scripsit weave:
Um, why do you need speakers on servers for this? Or a media player? I've got speakers and a media player on my workstation (and my laptop for that matter); if I need to mess with a server, that's what ssh is for.
(Running mpg321 over a ssh connection to the server is a good way to give someone a heart attack if the server does have speakers, BTW, especially if you choose the mp3 and your timing carefully... aumix -v 100 && mpg321 evil.mp3)
scripsit jcast:
Terminal emulator? Where did that come from?
scripsit paladin_tom:
OK, I'll put on my Yank academic hat for a moment...
In the States, ``college'' has many overlapping meanings. It can mean:
FWIW, ``college'' almost never means a secondary or preparatory school (i.e., high school or gymnasium) in the States.
Oh, and there's no legal restriction on these terms, so you will find totally unaccredited ``universities'' of massage, for example, or tech schools calling themselves universities (DeVry, for example).
scripsit LordSah:
Strangely enough, I don't have a hard time imagining that at all. I've put together quite a few presentations without PowerPoint. In fact, I've never used PowerPoint to create a presentation at all, only to edit other people's. When I was constrained to Windows (and before there was OpenOffice), I used CorelDRAW! and the WordPerfect presentation application. Now, between OpenOffice Impress and OpenOffice Draw, there's no reason even a psych major can't do a presentation on Free software.
scripsit Scumbag Tracker:
Like me; this is getting more and more common. The best was when some bastard spammed RMS with my e-mail address.
scripsit altp:
Anyone using e-mail for emergency communication should be flogged. It's just not that reliable -- have they never seen a mail server sit on an e-mail for ten hours because of a network glitch?
So they're willing to give you an office with walls and a door, so your music doesn't bother anyone else? Sweet.
Sounds like a particularly clueless and geek-hostile firm.
scripsit Idarubicin:
In those, um, ``circumstances,'' there are probably more important things to hide than a window.
scripsit FooBarWidget:
Dude, you need to find a new social group ;)
If I get flamed about using Galeon it's more likely to be ``Why do you care so much? It's just a browser, man!''