You have a cell phone? Ever placed it near your PC, or normal phone, or TV, or radio? Ever hear that annoying "der-dler-der, der-dler-der" of the call phone polling, or about to announce an incoming call? Or even the screech during the call call? Imagine a plane full of cell phones, and the cockpit crew trying to contact the tower. Even a small chance of interferance is too much for most people I would assume.
Safety is paramount, no? If the vast majority (99.99%?) of cell calls in a plane would be acceptable and so make it OK, then take into account that >99.99% of travellers are not terrorists, so why check for bombs?
I'd err on the side of caution, but that's just me. (Maybe cos I can go a few hours without my phone).
I remember here in England seeing a stand-up comedian from Canada walk on stage and say:
"Hi folks, I'm glad to be here. I'm from Canada - where the winters are -40, we live among the French, and we live next door to the Americans, so believe me when I say I'm glad to be here."
In the U.S. (or in many other Western countries) there is no (official!) state meddling with religion like in Germany (for historic reasons yes, but it still limits religious equality)
So was Darwin right, or could some schools in the US determine otherwise...
So if I sue Microsoft and lose, and I spend $10k and they spend $2m, I'd only be liable for $10k of their legal costs
So if we want to bankrupt MS, get a bunch of guys together who can afford to lose $10K each in order to see MS go down, then all sue at once. Even if they lose - MS pays out to lawyers.
"Carl Sagan said..." - I'm pretty sure Carl Sagan wasn't make believe.
"This is a GREAT thing about the US. You can come and go as you wish." - Only if you are a US citizen. I CANNOT come and go as I wish, so perhaps "You" in your context means "US citizens". It was unclear whether you actually meant "anyone who's anyone is a US citizen".
"You think we're better than animals because..." - well that's the idea, and I've heard that as a species it's our goal to be the best we can and rise above the animals and their killing instincts. If I can refer to something close to most if not all American hearts, the statement "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Note the order in which Life, Liberty, etc. are listed.
"Think there's a coincidence that 21 years passed between WWI and WWII?" - by your arguments there should have been WWIII by 1966, WWIV by about 1990... Why didn't it happen? Becuase deep down, people don't want war - they prefer to live without fear, without loss.
"Humans love to hate. Deal with it." Many of us (i.e. Humans) deal with it by prefering not to add to the circle of hate, and recognise that irrational, emotional approaches to global concerns will not bring a swift end to those concerns.
"You live in the United States" - do I? Sweeping statements like that are all too common, and seen by some as a symptom of self-indulgence.
"You, who would claim you are a Black person before you are American" - forgive my ignorance, but isn't nationality something you can change, and your race pretty much who you ARE and not who you WANT TO BE? If you wanted to be French or Canadian rather than American, then as you state, you are at liberty to become so (subject to certain laws and procedures). Being black is something that you are for life.
"Those of you outside the US who hate us, do what thou wilt but be warned that action against the US often leads to the destruction of the those that would harm us. Yeah we'll eventually rebuild you and then you'll give us back massages and make our fucking TVs." - Now this is the bit that really confuses me, and I'm wondering if the whole of your posting wasn't cut and pasted from either a number of sources, or written by you over a period of time. Either way, this ending is clearly a step away from the general context of the main posting, but how many nations have threatened the US? Is it those that you are addressing?
As for rebuilding, here's some flamebait: I suppose rebuilding is something you leave to others, e.g. Afghanistan (the first time round), Nicaragua, El Salvador, Angola...
Newton was a bit mad. Doesn't stop you being a genius - in fact, it's often cited to be a pre-requisite.
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So why not the spammer?
I guess it's intent.
But I was under the impression that there were successful cases against spammers, and that fines had been imposed.
Chatroom stuff I can agree 100% with, and though I also agree that sex-related spam to 7 year olds is wrong and should be punished, it cannot be termed paedophilia without the intent. Maybe there should be another term for it (there probably is), but it's not paedophilia.
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What is the difference is you unknowningly send a 7 year old an email that has a URL to a porn site and says things like watch 2 girls do f***, or see cindy take it up the a**, and pedophilia?
One is gross negligence in a marketing campaign, the other is an act borne out of a sexual desire for a minor.
Both are illegal, though I doubt you'd draw such a comparison between spamming a seven year old and true paedophilia if you knew someone that had suffered the latter.
Last year, I went through Four Corners - for those of you not up on your US geography, Four Corners is the point at which Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, and Utah all meet, being the only place in the US where 4 states meet.
Beaten by the place called Five Corners, which DOES have some sort of monument.
Does this law actually do anything more to deter thieves
I suppose we can't tell right now, but it's likely to. Consider how many people are charged with a single offence - very few when compared with the number of people charged with multiple offences [resisting arrest, conspiracy, perverting the course of justice, etc]. If you can slam the crims with five crimes, why only go for one?
Personally, I doubt that people will be hauled up on the charge of re-programming a phone if that's all they've done. I'm all for adding this as another offence if it means the bastards who rob you for your phone get a possible 10 years not five. Maybe that will deter thieves, but as I said in my opening sentence - who can tell?
The problem with democracy is that people have to go out and vote again and again
That may be amusing in itself, but nothing to do with what I said. You may have a problem with going out to vote again and again, but I do not. You may as well say that the problem with eating is that you have to shit again and again. Unless/. is saying that there's no better way of sifting submissions (but we can write a better O/S with the OSDN than any corporation?) it's a crass and stupid statement to say "keep submitting - more is better" when in the same breath complaining that more is the problem.... is all
And other countries don't. I see Arab nations killing and suicide bombing everyone who is not Arab.
Then you are not seeing things correctly, and perpetuating the USA-centric-all-Arabs-are-bad myth. Palestinians are having a go at Israel - not "everyone who is not Arab"
And you dont think the condescending French and Italians are the same.
There you go again - I assume it's you beeing an asshole, rather than you being from the USA. I believe that the proportion of condescending French and Italians is the same as the proportion of condescending people from the USA.
The only difference is that the US has the muscle to back up its mouth, whereas the EU jsut whine and complain.
Are we talking military muscle, or the ability to "reach across the ocean and shut down a website"? Or maybe the "muscle to back up its mouth" comes in the form of sanctions, e.g. 30% steel tarrifs, despite the USA being built on the ideal of free trade. Ever thought it's your mouth that's getting you into trouble?
We live in the best country in the world.
Debatable. Inflammatory when stated as fact from a point of ignorance.
We have the most liberties
Er, no you don't. We can drink alcohol when we become adults - can you? I can practise any sexual position I like with any consenting adult that I like - can you?
and the highest standard of living.
According to whom? The United Nations? Take another look at the list - Canada tops the USA.
I dont think its out of line for us to preserve our standard of living
agree with that
even if it is at the expense of others. Self preservation is the overriding instinct.
Don't agree with that. We're human beings, not animals.
America just catches the most flack because we are the current king of the mountain so to speak.
There may be some truth in that, but most of the flack is self induced. It's one thing to be king of the mountain and want to help other's get higher up the slope, it's another to say "We're king of the mountain - FUCK YOU!"
Normally I would concede that China has a much worse human rights record (lack of due process etc) and leave it at that, but I won't let "we have due process" be an excuse for Capital Punishment.
We are all born with rights, and top of the list is the right to life. Nothing you can do can take away from those rights. Nothing. NOTHING. Not even murder, manslaughter, treason, conspiracy, N-O-T-H-I-N-G. This is what America is built on, I believe, and for that I applaud the American Way.
My concerns are with the ways in which those rights are trampled on in the name of "what is right, just, American, whatever". I don't hate Americans. I don't hate anyone. [I have two exceptions, but they are irrelevant here. My "best" friend slept with my then gf, told everyone I was paranoid when I suspected something, and generally should go to hell. Not seen either for 5 years now, but I hold a grudge:-)]. But I do despair of Americans who think they are right simply because they are American. The two do not go hand in hand.
Getting back on topic, Yahoo sold out. Money speaks, and they've added to the tools of oppression for a bunch of dollars. That sucks.
If you want to join the anti-oppression movement, you could do worse than join Amnesty International. They campaign for the release of Prisoners of Conscience, and the end to the Death Penalty.
And by murder do you mean the pre-meditated taking of someone's life? Even if done officially? How many murders has the State of Texas committed this year then?
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I used to DREAM of plugs.
We get paged at 3 in t'morning - walk t'site over hot coals, get crucified by users, and then have to perform t'calculations our'sen.
PHB would thrash us to within inch of our lives, threaten us wi'pink slips and charge us f'honour o'comin' t'work.
Aye, scriptkids t'day dun't know th'born.
Gr
You have a cell phone?
Ever placed it near your PC, or normal phone, or TV, or radio?
Ever hear that annoying "der-dler-der, der-dler-der" of the call phone polling, or about to announce an incoming call? Or even the screech during the call call?
Imagine a plane full of cell phones, and the cockpit crew trying to contact the tower. Even a small chance of interferance is too much for most people I would assume.
Safety is paramount, no? If the vast majority (99.99%?) of cell calls in a plane would be acceptable and so make it OK, then take into account that >99.99% of travellers are not terrorists, so why check for bombs?
I'd err on the side of caution, but that's just me. (Maybe cos I can go a few hours without my phone).
I remember here in England seeing a stand-up comedian from Canada walk on stage and say:
"Hi folks, I'm glad to be here. I'm from Canada - where the winters are -40, we live among the French, and we live next door to the Americans, so believe me when I say I'm glad to be here."
The rest of his set had me in stitches.
Gr
In the U.S. (or in many other Western countries) there is no (official!) state meddling with religion like in Germany (for historic reasons yes, but it still limits religious equality)
So was Darwin right, or could some schools in the US determine otherwise
There can be only one.
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Damn - wrong franchise
So if I sue Microsoft and lose, and I spend $10k and they spend $2m, I'd only be liable for $10k of their legal costs
So if we want to bankrupt MS, get a bunch of guys together who can afford to lose $10K each in order to see MS go down, then all sue at once. Even if they lose - MS pays out to lawyers.
Can't see this happening.
Gr
LOL is not a word
It's a perfectly cromulent word.
Gr
*sigh*
..." - I'm pretty sure Carl Sagan wasn't make believe.
..." - well that's the idea, and I've heard that as a species it's our goal to be the best we can and rise above the animals and their killing instincts. If I can refer to something close to most if not all American hearts, the statement "that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." Note the order in which Life, Liberty, etc. are listed.
... Why didn't it happen? Becuase deep down, people don't want war - they prefer to live without fear, without loss.
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Where do I start?
"Carl Sagan said
"This is a GREAT thing about the US. You can come and go as you wish." - Only if you are a US citizen. I CANNOT come and go as I wish, so perhaps "You" in your context means "US citizens". It was unclear whether you actually meant "anyone who's anyone is a US citizen".
"You think we're better than animals because
"Think there's a coincidence that 21 years passed between WWI and WWII?" - by your arguments there should have been WWIII by 1966, WWIV by about 1990
"Humans love to hate. Deal with it." Many of us (i.e. Humans) deal with it by prefering not to add to the circle of hate, and recognise that irrational, emotional approaches to global concerns will not bring a swift end to those concerns.
"You live in the United States" - do I? Sweeping statements like that are all too common, and seen by some as a symptom of self-indulgence.
"You, who would claim you are a Black person before you are American" - forgive my ignorance, but isn't nationality something you can change, and your race pretty much who you ARE and not who you WANT TO BE? If you wanted to be French or Canadian rather than American, then as you state, you are at liberty to become so (subject to certain laws and procedures). Being black is something that you are for life.
"Those of you outside the US who hate us, do what thou wilt but be warned that action against the US often leads to the destruction of the those that would harm us. Yeah we'll eventually rebuild you and then you'll give us back massages and make our fucking TVs." - Now this is the bit that really confuses me, and I'm wondering if the whole of your posting wasn't cut and pasted from either a number of sources, or written by you over a period of time. Either way, this ending is clearly a step away from the general context of the main posting, but how many nations have threatened the US? Is it those that you are addressing?
As for rebuilding, here's some flamebait:
I suppose rebuilding is something you leave to others, e.g. Afghanistan (the first time round), Nicaragua, El Salvador, Angola
Gr
Newton was a bit mad. Doesn't stop you being a genius - in fact, it's often cited to be a pre-requisite.
Gr
So why not the spammer?
I guess it's intent.
But I was under the impression that there were successful cases against spammers, and that fines had been imposed.
Chatroom stuff I can agree 100% with, and though I also agree that sex-related spam to 7 year olds is wrong and should be punished, it cannot be termed paedophilia without the intent. Maybe there should be another term for it (there probably is), but it's not paedophilia.
Gr
What is the difference is you unknowningly send a 7 year old an email that has a URL to a porn site and says things like watch 2 girls do f***, or see cindy take it up the a**, and pedophilia?
One is gross negligence in a marketing campaign, the other is an act borne out of a sexual desire for a minor.
Both are illegal, though I doubt you'd draw such a comparison between spamming a seven year old and true paedophilia if you knew someone that had suffered the latter.
Gr
Last year, I went through Four Corners - for those of you not up on your US geography, Four Corners is the point at which Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, and Utah all meet, being the only place in the US where 4 states meet.
...
Beaten by the place called Five Corners, which DOES have some sort of monument.
It must be true, 'cos I saw it on the Simpsons
Right behind you on beefing up current laws - starting with "Life means life". What's the point of a "life" sentence if you can be out in 10-12 years?
Gr
Does this law actually do anything more to deter thieves
I suppose we can't tell right now, but it's likely to. Consider how many people are charged with a single offence - very few when compared with the number of people charged with multiple offences [resisting arrest, conspiracy, perverting the course of justice, etc]. If you can slam the crims with five crimes, why only go for one?
Personally, I doubt that people will be hauled up on the charge of re-programming a phone if that's all they've done. I'm all for adding this as another offence if it means the bastards who rob you for your phone get a possible 10 years not five. Maybe that will deter thieves, but as I said in my opening sentence - who can tell?
Gr
Well, neither. Thesedays you can usually find me being hostmaster, postmaster, and even (horror!) webmaster.
Twice as much pr0n, twice the quality, twice as fast.
And every 100 days the single girl photos turn into girl-on-girl action.
After three years you get panoramic video of orgies in DVD quality.
Especially in California.
Must think before posting
The problem with democracy is that people have to go out and vote again and again
/. is saying that there's no better way of sifting submissions (but we can write a better O/S with the OSDN than any corporation?) it's a crass and stupid statement to say "keep submitting - more is better" when in the same breath complaining that more is the problem. ... is all
That may be amusing in itself, but nothing to do with what I said. You may have a problem with going out to vote again and again, but I do not. You may as well say that the problem with eating is that you have to shit again and again. Unless
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And other countries don't. I see Arab nations killing and suicide bombing everyone who is not Arab.
Then you are not seeing things correctly, and perpetuating the USA-centric-all-Arabs-are-bad myth. Palestinians are having a go at Israel - not "everyone who is not Arab"
And you dont think the condescending French and Italians are the same.
There you go again - I assume it's you beeing an asshole, rather than you being from the USA. I believe that the proportion of condescending French and Italians is the same as the proportion of condescending people from the USA.
The only difference is that the US has the muscle to back up its mouth, whereas the EU jsut whine and complain.
Are we talking military muscle, or the ability to "reach across the ocean and shut down a website"? Or maybe the "muscle to back up its mouth" comes in the form of sanctions, e.g. 30% steel tarrifs, despite the USA being built on the ideal of free trade. Ever thought it's your mouth that's getting you into trouble?
We live in the best country in the world.
Debatable. Inflammatory when stated as fact from a point of ignorance.
We have the most liberties
Er, no you don't. We can drink alcohol when we become adults - can you? I can practise any sexual position I like with any consenting adult that I like - can you?
and the highest standard of living.
According to whom? The United Nations? Take another look at the list - Canada tops the USA.
I dont think its out of line for us to
preserve our standard of living
agree with that
even if it is at the expense of others. Self preservation is the overriding instinct.
Don't agree with that. We're human beings, not animals.
America just catches the most flack because we are the current king of the mountain so to speak.
There may be some truth in that, but most of the flack is self induced. It's one thing to be king of the mountain and want to help other's get higher up the slope, it's another to say "We're king of the mountain - FUCK YOU!"
What you need to do is just try again.
/. has of too many submissions, you ask people to submit again, and again, and again ...
So to work around the problem
No wonder there's a problem.
... over to Edinborough ...
Or even spell it.
Normally I would concede that China has a much worse human rights record (lack of due process etc) and leave it at that, but I won't let "we have due process" be an excuse for Capital Punishment.
:-)]. But I do despair of Americans who think they are right simply because they are American. The two do not go hand in hand.
We are all born with rights, and top of the list is the right to life. Nothing you can do can take away from those rights. Nothing. NOTHING. Not even murder, manslaughter, treason, conspiracy, N-O-T-H-I-N-G. This is what America is built on, I believe, and for that I applaud the American Way.
My concerns are with the ways in which those rights are trampled on in the name of "what is right, just, American, whatever". I don't hate Americans. I don't hate anyone. [I have two exceptions, but they are irrelevant here. My "best" friend slept with my then gf, told everyone I was paranoid when I suspected something, and generally should go to hell. Not seen either for 5 years now, but I hold a grudge
Getting back on topic, Yahoo sold out. Money speaks, and they've added to the tools of oppression for a bunch of dollars. That sucks.
If you want to join the anti-oppression movement, you could do worse than join Amnesty International. They campaign for the release of Prisoners of Conscience, and the end to the Death Penalty.
And by murder do you mean the pre-meditated taking of someone's life? Even if done officially? How many murders has the State of Texas committed this year then?
And is it Blink One-Eight-Two, or Blink One-Eighty-Two.
:) Zed.
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I'm British, my wife is Canadian, and I prefer to say names the way the "owner" says them. It is, after all, their name.
But a letter is a letter
"Zee's dead baby