Original intent is hard to prove and is, IMHO, defeated by a simple observation, that whatever they REALLY intended to be the law was written into the Constitution. Yes, there were a lot of compromises, but why would you base your law on original intent of your favorite thinkers without considering the opposing view, which is built into the product of compromise that is the Constitution?
So one should only care about American citizens? You are not making a legal point, mind you, you are saying "who cares". That is a different statement.
Sometimes it's necessary to "bring yourself down" to the level of your adversary. Otherwise, you will be screwed without leaving your moral high ground.
The internet couldn't possibly be used by the terrorists, as with the amount of porn on it in every domain their eyes would be seared by a picture of a naked woman
Ah, so all the filtering software makers' biggest customers are obviously Al Qaeda and the likes, who use it to shield their Internet-using terrorists from porn. Down with the filters!
No, the laws will only apply in the county they are made in.
Unless the laws are made in the USA, in which case they apply to every human being on planet Earth. Maybe within the solar system, even... (not so far-fetched...)
Well, you're right, but I am just arguing against the value judgment that it's "stealing". Just because US copyright laws are set up in a certain way, doesn't mean it's inherent.
One may argue the same for property rights, but tangible property rights have a much longer tradition.
Ok, first, it's not stealing, it's copyright violation. Now, if the copyright law in Malaysia is changed so that this is NOT a copyright violation, what exactly is illegal here?:)
First, it truly isn't fair to force a company to sell or licesne a product for far less than they think it's worth
Ah, but copyright LAWS can be changed to allow educational institutions to copy software freely. As such a law, it is on par with the law that upholds copyright so that no one may copy it - they are equivalent.
In other words, piracy is illegal, but what if the laws were passed that copying copyrighted material is legal for all non-commercial uses, say. Would that be legalizing piracy? It's a way of looking at it, of course; but I think a more correct way of looking at it is that the copyright law was just changed. How is the current law any better?
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...enemies both domestic and forgin.
I thought the Secret Service was concerned with those forgin' enemies...
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Care to be more condescending and elitist. Somehow the world has survived through 50+ years of the Cold War and associated nuclear arms race despite the non-existence of Slashdot and the fact that most leaders were not geek-types.
I'll just throw in Einstein and Sakharov, as only two influential anti-war thinkers, ubergeeks arguably. There are, of course, many more...
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Hate of your own species is hate of self.
Is hatred of your parents' murderers (a hypothetical here) a hate of self? Is it stupidity? In this case, you'd say it's a perfectly normal, even biologically justified, reaction.
Now, extend it bit by bit...
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I meant doing that via anonymous letter (or fax, or whatever).
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If you really care about the security being fixed (and don't want to jeopardize yourself for a dubious expectation of fame) is to notify whoever you want appropriately. If they fail to respond, you could always contact the media.:)
NAMBLA's position is that homosexual relations between underage boys and adult men is not only acceptable, but may prove benificial to the development of the child. While I, and many others, do find this "in bad taste," it also flys in the face of sociology and psychology.
Your argument is circular, kinda.
If such sex were acceptable in society, than it would not fly in the face of sociology/psychology/whatever else, because a lot of harm comes because of societal disapproval.
3 - What's in a name anyway? It's just an identifier. We could all just as well be numbered for all the real value that a name contains. What are you without your name? Still you, right?
Arguably, no. Your name definitely shaped a number of encounters in your childhood (nicknames, or teasing, perhaps, etc.), and those had an impact on you. That's even if you dont' consider the "mystical" part of it:))
Your numbers don't work for those who enjoy their work, and don't really care as much for expensive cars or a carribean island.:)
To each his own, I guess.
Besides, it also depends on what exactly your jailtime will be like. If it's only living in a restricted space, that's one thing. If it's sharing this space with some, uh, shady characters, it's another.
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"Perhaps not exactly what you think"?
What the hell does that mean?
"His surveyor puts his bed, and more specifically his pillow, in Connecticut."
There's a 1958 French (or is it Italian)
movie about this very thing...
The Postman always pings twice...
Original intent is hard to prove and is,
IMHO, defeated by a simple observation,
that whatever they REALLY intended to be
the law was written into the Constitution.
Yes, there were a lot of compromises, but
why would you base your law on original intent
of your favorite thinkers without considering
the opposing view, which is built into the
product of compromise that is the Constitution?
So one should only care about American citizens?
You are not making a legal point, mind you,
you are saying "who cares". That is a different
statement.
Neither rain nor sleet nor snow nor DoS...
Well, maybe DoS...
It would be cool to have a competition, where
participants (directors) get a movie,
and have to produce a trailer for it.
Sometimes it's necessary to "bring yourself
down" to the level of your adversary. Otherwise,
you will be screwed without leaving your
moral high ground.
Ah, so all the filtering software makers'
biggest customers are obviously Al Qaeda
and the likes, who use it to shield their
Internet-using terrorists from porn.
Down with the filters!
Unless the laws are made in the USA, in which case they apply to every human being on planet Earth. Maybe within the solar system, even...
(not so far-fetched...)
cleartext http...
The call themselves Geeks?
How Macchiavellian... If this is the entire point of this bill, it's perversely beautiful...
against the value judgment that it's "stealing".
Just because US copyright laws are set up in a certain way, doesn't mean it's inherent.
One may argue the same for property rights, but
tangible property rights have a much longer tradition.
Ok, first, it's not stealing, it's copyright violation. Now, if the copyright law in Malaysia is changed so that this is NOT a copyright violation, what exactly is illegal here? :)
Ah, but copyright LAWS can be changed to
allow educational institutions to copy software
freely. As such a law, it is on par with the
law that upholds copyright so that no one may
copy it - they are equivalent.
In other words, piracy is illegal, but what
if the laws were passed that copying copyrighted
material is legal for all non-commercial uses, say. Would that be legalizing piracy? It's a way of looking at it, of course; but I think a more correct way of looking at it is that the copyright law was just changed. How is the current law any better?
I thought the Secret Service was concerned
with those forgin' enemies...
I'll just throw in Einstein and Sakharov, as
only two influential anti-war thinkers, ubergeeks arguably. There are, of course, many more...
Is hatred of your parents' murderers (a hypothetical here) a hate of self? Is it
stupidity? In this case, you'd say it's
a perfectly normal, even biologically justified,
reaction.
Now, extend it bit by bit...
I meant doing that via anonymous
letter (or fax, or whatever).
If you really care about the security :)
being fixed (and don't want to jeopardize
yourself for a dubious expectation of fame)
is to notify whoever you want appropriately.
If they fail to respond, you could always
contact the media.
Yeah, by the way, what happened to the old "No taxation without representation" cry? Hypocritically shafted by the wayside with other American ideals?
Actually, I am more careful at my friend's house.
Then again, we may have differing definitions
of friends...
Your argument is circular, kinda.
If such sex were acceptable in society, than it would not fly in the face of sociology/psychology/whatever else, because a lot of harm comes because of societal disapproval.
Arguably, no. Your name definitely shaped a number of encounters in your childhood (nicknames, or teasing, perhaps, etc.), and those had an impact on you. That's even if you dont' consider the "mystical" part of it :))
enjoy their work, and don't really
care as much for expensive cars or a
carribean island.
To each his own, I guess.
Besides, it also depends on what exactly
your jailtime will be like. If it's only
living in a restricted space, that's one
thing. If it's sharing this space with some,
uh, shady characters, it's another.