Or you could just get them for free, legitimately From the LawMeme web site (http://research.yale.edu/lawmeme/modules.php?name =News&file=article&sid=807):
First, the court filings are public documents. Anyone can go to the clerk's office for the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma and request a complete copy of the case file, including all the filings on SearchKing's restricted page. They aren't SearchKing's property. And since the court hasn't entered any order restricting public access to the documents, neither SearchKing nor anyone else has any right to prohibit their reproduction or republication. The major legal publishers are careful to claim copyright only in their database assembly and annotations; they don't dispute that the opinions and briefs they publish are in the public domain. Second, SearchKing (or its lawyers) didn't even write the filings it wants you to pay to have to see. Google's lawyers did.
The copies of Google's filings to which this article links were obtained by LawMeme from other sources. Consistent with keeping these documents freely available to the public, LawMeme is hosting them on its own server, and will continue to archive all filings and other legal documents in this case. We will also post further updates as events develop.
Because their money beats our money every time. The only hope of defeating DMCA legislatively is to have as strong a lobby as the cartel. Huge piles of money, lots of annoying harpies (i.e. powerful attorneys), a unified front, a massive PR campaign, and a couple more huge piles of money for when the first pile runs out.
Yeah, not many bears big enough to eat the earth. A couple celestial Ursas, maybe, but they're awfully far away and don't roam much. Heck, they don't even throw rocks at us, like that pesky lion.
"the risk of damage from a meteor is much lower than the chance of being eaten by a bear during the same time frame. However - for the Earth as a whole that is not true."
"Or you bribe/blackmail the guy; or you use "lead pipe" cryptanalysis- you hit the guy over the head until he tells you his password."
Sorry about getting too technical here, but "lead pipe" cryptanalysis entails hitting the guy's hands, feet and genitalia with the pipe. Doesn't take many blows to the head to induce memory loss in the patient. ("You can stop hitting him now; he's dead.")
I picked up my copy of the book this morning, and have just finished reading it, and all references cited in the footnotes. It was mildly interesting and informative, but overall disappointing. There was nothing in it or the references which could show me how to get hard carriage returns in my sig.
1) The vast majority of IP attorneys do NOT get involved in litigation. They advise their clients/employers on the patentability of their r & d efforts, try to get them useful (valid and enforceable) patents on their inventions, and help guide their r & d in lucrative directions.
2) Most of these IP attorneys are just as frustrated and disgusted with the problems with the USPTO. If the PTO is going to grant idiotic patents, and our clients want them, many of us either won't or can't refuse out of principle. I can and do, but I'm also pretty damn poor for an IP attorney. On the other hand, I sleep very well at night.
Maybe they're trying to protect against the NEXT generation of terrorist attacks. After all, before 9/11 you could have said "when was the last time hijackers turned an airplane into a missle."
Sometimes it's good to be proactive rather than reactive.
"Change the standard procedure, and reject all patent applications by default. If the applicant can't make a good enough case as to why the patent should be granted, then the invention isn't worth patenting."
Actually, this wouldn't make any difference. Close to 98% of patent applications ARE rejected in the first Office Action, including those that eventually do issue as crappy patents. The problems are numerous, but the primary one is funding. Examiners are denied the time and resources to properly search the art and write the opinions, particularly with regard to non-patent prior art. They don't have these resources because the crooks in congress steal money from the Patent Office to put into the general fund. This is technically illegal, but it's done anyway.
Here's some (slightly dated but still valid) info from IPO (admittedly a large-company lobbying group in Washington, but they are occasionally concerned about patent quality):
THURSDAY, JUNE 8, 2000, 11:00 a.m.
HOUSE SUBCOMMITTEE DRASTICALLY INCREASES PROPOSED USPTO FEE WITHHOLDING
On Tuesday evening the House Commerce-Justice-State Appropriations Subcommittee chaired by Rep. Harold Rogers (R-KY) drastically increased the amount of USPTO fees proposed to be withheld and diverted to unrelated government programs. The amount the subcommittee is now proposing to withhold in 2001 is around $295 million, which is about 25 percent of estimated 2001 income.
Although complete information on the impact is not yet available, the impact of withholding $295 million will be catastrophic. The largest amount ever withheld before in one year is the $116 million being withheld in 2000. IPO President Ronald Myrick testified in Congress on March 9 that fee withholding in the range of $113 to 116 million a year already is threatening the quality of patent examining and causing pendency times for patent and trademark applications to rise toward unacceptable levels. Withholding at the $295 million level at a time when workloads are rising rapidly will be far worse.
The Rogers subcommittee and the House and Senate Appropriations Committees are caught in the cross currents of election year spending demands. Republicans and the Clinton Administration are calling for increases of more than $1.5 billion in popular crime-fighting, drug enforcement, and immigration programs of the Department of Justice.
Congress and the Administration are advocating overall federal spending billions of dollars above existing deficit-control spending caps. The USPTO, a user fee-funded agency, has become a cash cow for other federal programs.
Moe's car with the big flower decals that Homer stole and drove off a cliff. Marge also went off a cliff into Springfield gorge, but it was a stolen car (I don't remember the make).
Ned and Homer both had RVs.
Kang and Kodos have a very nice spaceship, for the sequel game. This would go nicely with Frink's flying motorcycle, the human powered fake spaceship flown by the Leader of the Movementarians, Krusty's Krashed plane and Homer's space shuttle sabotaging Mir.
Apu's car was definitely a firebird, with the big decal on the hood ("Squirt the boy").
How about the funky "walking sphere" that Luanne van Houtan and her stuntman boyfriend tool around town in?
The very tall guy with the very small car who marched Nelson down the street.
There are lots more, but they probably get a little silly.
Re:Kudos to Slashdot and the Slashteam
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I can't agree more; Slashdot has suddenly expanded their realm of influence to providing current mainstream news stories.
I'm in an office without television or radio - Slashdot was the only internet site I was able to access any news from. When I passed on this information to my equally frustrated colleagues in the office, I was amazed that not one of them had heard of you guys!
It may be time for a new slogan: "Not just for techno-nerds anymore!"
Slashdot Mirror
Or you could just get them for free, legitimately From the LawMeme web site (http://research.yale.edu/lawmeme/modules.php?name =News&file=article&sid=807):
First, the court filings are public documents. Anyone can go to the clerk's office for the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma and request a complete copy of the case file, including all the filings on SearchKing's restricted page. They aren't SearchKing's property. And since the court hasn't entered any order restricting public access to the documents, neither SearchKing nor anyone else has any right to prohibit their reproduction or republication. The major legal publishers are careful to claim copyright only in their database assembly and annotations; they don't dispute that the opinions and briefs they publish are in the public domain. Second, SearchKing (or its lawyers) didn't even write the filings it wants you to pay to have to see. Google's lawyers did.
The copies of Google's filings to which this article links were obtained by LawMeme from other sources. Consistent with keeping these documents freely available to the public, LawMeme is hosting them on its own server, and will continue to archive all filings and other legal documents in this case. We will also post further updates as events develop.
Maybe they drives their pickup down to the store, pays cash money (or a sack of chickens) to the register lady and takes home their computer?
"So how are they supposed to buy it without internet access?"
Grammar nerds - the nerd's nerds.
Nooo! Not the wixwaxia?!!
Because their money beats our money every time. The only hope of defeating DMCA legislatively is to have as strong a lobby as the cartel. Huge piles of money, lots of annoying harpies (i.e. powerful attorneys), a unified front, a massive PR campaign, and a couple more huge piles of money for when the first pile runs out.
Yeah, not many bears big enough to eat the earth. A couple celestial Ursas, maybe, but they're awfully far away and don't roam much. Heck, they don't even throw rocks at us, like that pesky lion.
"the risk of damage from a meteor is much lower than the chance of being eaten by a bear during the same time frame. However - for the Earth as a whole that is not true."
"Or you bribe/blackmail the guy; or you use "lead pipe" cryptanalysis- you hit the guy over the head until he tells you his password."
Sorry about getting too technical here, but "lead pipe" cryptanalysis entails hitting the guy's hands, feet and genitalia with the pipe. Doesn't take many blows to the head to induce memory loss in the patient. ("You can stop hitting him now; he's dead.")
Geese are troublesome.
"2) There are around 22 episodes in a standard Simpsons season."
This statement is incromulent. There are exactly 25 episodes in a standard Simpsons season.
So I guess it's Michael Jackson for CEO, right?
No. The real question is, does it have a two button mouse?
Everybody must be watching celebrity boxing II (truly what television was invented for!)
1) Loser pays all litigation costs, trebled for groundless lawsuits.
2) Compulsory licensing (e.g. Canada) for non-commercialized patents.
I picked up my copy of the book this morning, and have just finished reading it, and all references cited in the footnotes. It was mildly interesting and informative, but overall disappointing. There was nothing in it or the references which could show me how to get hard carriage returns in my sig.
A couple points.
1) The vast majority of IP attorneys do NOT get involved in litigation. They advise their clients/employers on the patentability of their r & d efforts, try to get them useful (valid and enforceable) patents on their inventions, and help guide their r & d in lucrative directions.
2) Most of these IP attorneys are just as frustrated and disgusted with the problems with the USPTO. If the PTO is going to grant idiotic patents, and our clients want them, many of us either won't or can't refuse out of principle. I can and do, but I'm also pretty damn poor for an IP attorney. On the other hand, I sleep very well at night.
Maybe they're trying to protect against the NEXT generation of terrorist attacks. After all, before 9/11 you could have said "when was the last time hijackers turned an airplane into a missle."
Sometimes it's good to be proactive rather than reactive.
From: Bill Gates
To: All M$ Employees and Shills
Re: Anti-M$ Publicity
Kill Slashdot.
Fat bonus to whomever Slashdots those bastards.
xoxox
Bill
"Change the standard procedure, and reject all patent applications by default. If the applicant can't make a good enough case as to why the patent should be granted, then the invention isn't worth patenting."
Actually, this wouldn't make any difference. Close to 98% of patent applications ARE rejected in the first Office Action, including those that eventually do issue as crappy patents. The problems are numerous, but the primary one is funding. Examiners are denied the time and resources to properly search the art and write the opinions, particularly with regard to non-patent prior art. They don't have these resources because the crooks in congress steal money from the Patent Office to put into the general fund. This is technically illegal, but it's done anyway.
Here's some (slightly dated but still valid) info from IPO (admittedly a large-company lobbying group in Washington, but they are occasionally concerned about patent quality):
THURSDAY, JUNE 8, 2000, 11:00 a.m.
HOUSE SUBCOMMITTEE DRASTICALLY INCREASES PROPOSED USPTO FEE WITHHOLDING
On Tuesday evening the House Commerce-Justice-State Appropriations Subcommittee chaired by Rep. Harold Rogers (R-KY) drastically increased the amount of USPTO fees proposed to be withheld and diverted to unrelated government programs. The amount the subcommittee is now proposing to withhold in 2001 is around $295 million, which is about 25 percent of estimated 2001 income.
Although complete information on the impact is not yet available, the impact of withholding $295 million will be catastrophic. The largest amount ever withheld before in one year is the $116 million being withheld in 2000. IPO President Ronald Myrick testified in Congress on March 9 that fee withholding in the range of $113 to 116 million a year already is threatening the quality of patent examining and causing pendency times for patent and trademark applications to rise toward unacceptable levels. Withholding at the $295 million level at a time when workloads are rising rapidly will be far worse.
The Rogers subcommittee and the House and Senate Appropriations Committees are caught in the cross currents of election year spending demands. Republicans and the Clinton Administration are calling for increases of more than $1.5 billion in popular crime-fighting, drug enforcement, and immigration programs of the Department of Justice.
Congress and the Administration are advocating overall federal spending billions of dollars above existing deficit-control spending caps. The USPTO, a user fee-funded agency, has become a cash cow for other federal programs.
If it acts like shit
you must acquit
where would /.ers get their clever sigs from?
That '70s Show??
Moe's car with the big flower decals that Homer stole and drove off a cliff. Marge also went off a cliff into Springfield gorge, but it was a stolen car (I don't remember the make).
Ned and Homer both had RVs.
Kang and Kodos have a very nice spaceship, for the sequel game. This would go nicely with Frink's flying motorcycle, the human powered fake spaceship flown by the Leader of the Movementarians, Krusty's Krashed plane and Homer's space shuttle sabotaging Mir.
Apu's car was definitely a firebird, with the big decal on the hood ("Squirt the boy").
How about the funky "walking sphere" that Luanne van Houtan and her stuntman boyfriend tool around town in?
The very tall guy with the very small car who marched Nelson down the street.
There are lots more, but they probably get a little silly.
I can't agree more; Slashdot has suddenly expanded their realm of influence to providing current mainstream news stories.
I'm in an office without television or radio - Slashdot was the only internet site I was able to access any news from. When I passed on this information to my equally frustrated colleagues in the office, I was amazed that not one of them had heard of you guys!
It may be time for a new slogan: "Not just for techno-nerds anymore!"