this sounds pretty cool for some applications - particularly if you have a number of boxen in one corner of a room or something.
Personally (and I don't know if this is similar to any other experiences), my gear is more spread out...that is, I rarely ever keep more than one ethernet-enabled device in one area of a room. I can see this being a really nice implementation for offices where a group of workstations are arranged close to one another, but other than that, there aren't many practical applications for the home. I'll probably stick to using a 24-port switch in the closet, and various single- and dual-port wall plates throughout the house.
It's not a simple thing to go up against a major corporation like Apple. They've got a little money to spend on lawyers and litigation. The people at MacFixIt don't have the same resources, and are perfectly justified in their actions. You can't legitimately blame them for doing what is in their best interest as a small company.
Nobody's selling out here...and besides, now that the cat's out of the bag, MacFixIt has no reason to host the instructions on their website anyway. I'm sure the word will spread just fine without it being on their site...so it really doesn't make any difference that they agreed to Apple's demands. The damage was already done.
Of course American companies are going to jump on the opportunity to make a few million from the Saudi government. That's why they exist - to make money. They don't care if they're limiting the content that a bunch of people half a world away can access. Why is this such a big deal? Because a single country won't have access to the internet in its full, uncensored form? They should be happy - no porn popup ads, no Microsoft Approved content, no CRAP!! If anything, it sounds like this will limit the "Saudinet" to being *gasp* and INFORMATIONAL RESOURCE!!!!
Are you joking? Did you read the article? ALL 13 BOARDS were tested with identical GeForce3 cards. And furthermore, the tested NForce boards DO NOT have integrated graphics. If anything, the nForce board SHOULD have had the advantage, since it was employing the 128-bit memory bus, but it didn't.
You're correct on your other two points...however, you might take note of the fact that VIA chipsets sacrifice a tiny bit of stability for the sake of performance. With Intel and AMD chipsets, you lose a tiny bit of speed for the sake of stability. It's a give-and-take situation - you just have to decide which is most important to you.
Oh, come on! Without the fluff, news sites would be boring as hell!! Without the totally useless stories (and anything by JonKatz), it would be ten hours between posts - and you wouldn't have anything to post complaints about!
my apologies for not delineating the irony that I originally intended to convey.
Personally, my experience with Macs in schools has NEVER been tainted with Office or Explorer. I attend a University that is home to over 30,000 students, in which Macs are the preferred and dominant species of computers. NONE of them use Explorer or Office. My school has purchased volume licenses of Corel WordPerfect Office and they use Netscape 4.78 or above for browsing.
So are you trying to tell me that the proposed "punishment" is actually WORSE for microsoft?
...And furthermore, we here at Microsoft will allow this group of thirty-one geishas to massage us as we skip a week's worth of board meetings! Harsh, you say? We haven't even told you about the part with the spankings and the oral sex!!!
a few things that REALLY make me think that Katz either made this crap up, or is the victim of a VERY poorly fabricated hoax:
1 - I know it's been said already, but it bears repeating...how does one download MOVIES on an "ancient commodore"? And furthermore, how does one play them?
2 - When you're living in Afghanistan, who do you call to get internet access?
3 - If the guy's using that "ancient commodore", what would prompt him to salivate over an IPod? First of all, it's doubtful that he would have ever acquired even a single MP3 file, let alone enough to fill an IPod. Oh, and Commodores didn't have firewire back in my day. Seems like the guy would be more likely to lust after a 2-year old Athlon system and a broadband connection rather than an IPod.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who noticed this pile of absolute rubbish. Katz should be sent over to Kabul to investigate the situation himself.
I guess i failed to mention that part...it seems that the secret password is actually "..I'll be putting these 12 notebooks on my business account." They never have a problem with that.
Seriously, though...I've had the same problem with them, and during that particular instance, I simply demanded that they do it. It's not a real problem for them to do it without the OS...rather it seems that it's a buried function in their ordering system (if you've ever tried to order a SIDE of big mac sauce at the McDonald's drive-thru, you know what i'm talking about...). Try talking to a sales supervisor or someone even higher-up than that. I only had to go a step above the phone rep to get it done the last time I dealt with them.
the nice thing about methane and methanol is that they can both be purchased in self-contained units, much like butane and the stuff that powers gas grills. In most cases involving fuel cells, the actual refilling is done not by pouring or injecting, but by simply replacing a gas cartridge.
You'll have some trouble finding a notebook that is completely devoid of those features you mentioned. All three of these come with the standard legacy and PS/2 connectors, but none of them have any internal floppy or optical drives, which saves a great deal of weight and battery life. And they're all about $1400...not too bad if you ask me. We use the Dells here at my place of employment, and they work great. It's not mentioned on Dell's website, but you can order any of their laptops without an operating system at a $100 discount.
...picture this - you're sitting in the boardroom, your boss to your left side, and the prospective multi-million dollar client across the table from you, and you're taking notes on your palm pilot...
PECKING AWAY AT YOUR INVISIBLE KEYBOARD.
And you thought the Sega Activator made you look stupid.
...that only ONE of these standards actually goes mainstream and takes the place of PCI. This reminds me of the DVDR-W versus DVDR+W conflict that's going on right now. You've got multiple standards that are totally incompatible with each other, and yet neither of them has any true advantage over the other.
Hopefully one standard will emerge, so I can *safely* proceed with upgrading my PC hardware without fear of immeidate obsolescence.
My gaming machine at home runs windows 98SE, and after using 98Lite, it's running beautifully without the scourge that is IE. Mozilla takes care of my web-browsing functions in its place, and I'm a happier man for doing it.
I beg to differ. For example, about 90% of the machines here at the Environmental Protection Agency are running Windows 98SE, with IE 5.0.
Here's a headline for you: NONE OF THEM ARE VULNERABLE TO THIS EXPLOIT..
Since you can hardly begin to argue that 98SE is not current (it makes up at least 50% of Windows installations, and that's certainly and underestimate), then it is reasonable to say that WINDOWS does not have a flaw. Only after the introduction of IE 5.5 or higher does the vulnerability surface.
I realize that my opinion on this matter will not be popular, since the majority of slashdotters favor open-source operating systems. However, this is still a NEWS site, and it can only remain that way if the NEWS is unbiased.
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I'm sure the people who regularly mix the two up aren't exactly the target market that 3COM is shooting for with this product...
this sounds pretty cool for some applications - particularly if you have a number of boxen in one corner of a room or something.
Personally (and I don't know if this is similar to any other experiences), my gear is more spread out...that is, I rarely ever keep more than one ethernet-enabled device in one area of a room. I can see this being a really nice implementation for offices where a group of workstations are arranged close to one another, but other than that, there aren't many practical applications for the home. I'll probably stick to using a 24-port switch in the closet, and various single- and dual-port wall plates throughout the house.
take it easy, there...
It's not a simple thing to go up against a major corporation like Apple. They've got a little money to spend on lawyers and litigation. The people at MacFixIt don't have the same resources, and are perfectly justified in their actions. You can't legitimately blame them for doing what is in their best interest as a small company.
Nobody's selling out here...and besides, now that the cat's out of the bag, MacFixIt has no reason to host the instructions on their website anyway. I'm sure the word will spread just fine without it being on their site...so it really doesn't make any difference that they agreed to Apple's demands. The damage was already done.
going on 5 minutes after the initial posting, and still no slashdotting...
Seems to me that these guys might be onto something here...or maybe they just really know what they're talking about...
News flash for ya, Katz...
corporatism != humanitarianism.
Of course American companies are going to jump on the opportunity to make a few million from the Saudi government. That's why they exist - to make money. They don't care if they're limiting the content that a bunch of people half a world away can access. Why is this such a big deal? Because a single country won't have access to the internet in its full, uncensored form? They should be happy - no porn popup ads, no Microsoft Approved content, no CRAP!! If anything, it sounds like this will limit the "Saudinet" to being *gasp* and INFORMATIONAL RESOURCE!!!!
Dear god, the humanity!!!
Are you joking? Did you read the article? ALL 13 BOARDS were tested with identical GeForce3 cards. And furthermore, the tested NForce boards DO NOT have integrated graphics. If anything, the nForce board SHOULD have had the advantage, since it was employing the 128-bit memory bus, but it didn't.
You're correct on your other two points...however, you might take note of the fact that VIA chipsets sacrifice a tiny bit of stability for the sake of performance. With Intel and AMD chipsets, you lose a tiny bit of speed for the sake of stability. It's a give-and-take situation - you just have to decide which is most important to you.
Oh, come on! Without the fluff, news sites would be boring as hell!! Without the totally useless stories (and anything by JonKatz), it would be ten hours between posts - and you wouldn't have anything to post complaints about!
dead parrots???
Oh yeah...nice transistor too, i guess.
so quit trying to "keep up". Buy one that suits your needs, and keep it. If there aren't any handhelds that suit your needs, then don't buy one.
my apologies for not delineating the irony that I originally intended to convey.
Personally, my experience with Macs in schools has NEVER been tainted with Office or Explorer. I attend a University that is home to over 30,000 students, in which Macs are the preferred and dominant species of computers. NONE of them use Explorer or Office. My school has purchased volume licenses of Corel WordPerfect Office and they use Netscape 4.78 or above for browsing.
So are you trying to tell me that the proposed "punishment" is actually WORSE for microsoft?
...And furthermore, we here at Microsoft will allow this group of thirty-one geishas to massage us as we skip a week's worth of board meetings! Harsh, you say? We haven't even told you about the part with the spankings and the oral sex!!!
Microsoft has a way of making "viable court-imposed punishments" out of shrewd business moves.
If they really wanted to show us how sorry they are, they would put Macs in the schools.
a few things that REALLY make me think that Katz either made this crap up, or is the victim of a VERY poorly fabricated hoax:
1 - I know it's been said already, but it bears repeating...how does one download MOVIES on an "ancient commodore"? And furthermore, how does one play them?
2 - When you're living in Afghanistan, who do you call to get internet access?
3 - If the guy's using that "ancient commodore", what would prompt him to salivate over an IPod? First of all, it's doubtful that he would have ever acquired even a single MP3 file, let alone enough to fill an IPod. Oh, and Commodores didn't have firewire back in my day. Seems like the guy would be more likely to lust after a 2-year old Athlon system and a broadband connection rather than an IPod.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who noticed this pile of absolute rubbish. Katz should be sent over to Kabul to investigate the situation himself.
...if the title is any indicator, we'll be seeing a lot of 8-bit sprites running around fighting slimes and wraiths.
I guess i failed to mention that part...it seems that the secret password is actually "..I'll be putting these 12 notebooks on my business account." They never have a problem with that.
Seriously, though...I've had the same problem with them, and during that particular instance, I simply demanded that they do it. It's not a real problem for them to do it without the OS...rather it seems that it's a buried function in their ordering system (if you've ever tried to order a SIDE of big mac sauce at the McDonald's drive-thru, you know what i'm talking about...). Try talking to a sales supervisor or someone even higher-up than that. I only had to go a step above the phone rep to get it done the last time I dealt with them.
the nice thing about methane and methanol is that they can both be purchased in self-contained units, much like butane and the stuff that powers gas grills. In most cases involving fuel cells, the actual refilling is done not by pouring or injecting, but by simply replacing a gas cartridge.
...a previous slashdot story involving Motorola's attempt at powering cell phones with similar methane-powered fuel cells.
you just described most of the current ultra-portable notebooks in existence. Try these:
Dell Inspiron
Compaq EVO
Sony VAIO R505 series
You'll have some trouble finding a notebook that is completely devoid of those features you mentioned. All three of these come with the standard legacy and PS/2 connectors, but none of them have any internal floppy or optical drives, which saves a great deal of weight and battery life. And they're all about $1400...not too bad if you ask me. We use the Dells here at my place of employment, and they work great. It's not mentioned on Dell's website, but you can order any of their laptops without an operating system at a $100 discount.
...picture this - you're sitting in the boardroom, your boss to your left side, and the prospective multi-million dollar client across the table from you, and you're taking notes on your palm pilot...
PECKING AWAY AT YOUR INVISIBLE KEYBOARD.
And you thought the Sega Activator made you look stupid.
After reading that summary, there's really no need for anyone to even buy the book! Well, unless they like paper or something.
Thanks, Timmy!
And how does a bullshit claim from microsoft negate the fact that IE can definitely be removed from windows?
...that only ONE of these standards actually goes mainstream and takes the place of PCI. This reminds me of the DVDR-W versus DVDR+W conflict that's going on right now. You've got multiple standards that are totally incompatible with each other, and yet neither of them has any true advantage over the other.
Hopefully one standard will emerge, so I can *safely* proceed with upgrading my PC hardware without fear of immeidate obsolescence.
you're absolutely wrong.
I clearly pointed out that the problem is not a part of windows, as it is not a problem until IE is introduced to the mix.
Just try running without IE
already doing it.
My gaming machine at home runs windows 98SE, and after using 98Lite, it's running beautifully without the scourge that is IE. Mozilla takes care of my web-browsing functions in its place, and I'm a happier man for doing it.
I beg to differ. For example, about 90% of the machines here at the Environmental Protection Agency are running Windows 98SE, with IE 5.0.
Here's a headline for you: NONE OF THEM ARE VULNERABLE TO THIS EXPLOIT..
Since you can hardly begin to argue that 98SE is not current (it makes up at least 50% of Windows installations, and that's certainly and underestimate), then it is reasonable to say that WINDOWS does not have a flaw. Only after the introduction of IE 5.5 or higher does the vulnerability surface.
I realize that my opinion on this matter will not be popular, since the majority of slashdotters favor open-source operating systems. However, this is still a NEWS site, and it can only remain that way if the NEWS is unbiased.