I found the email. Here is Kodak's reply to me (dated May 2002): ------------ Greetings _____,
Thank you for your recent visit to the Kodak website and question about using the KODAK EASYSHARE DX4900 Zoom Digital Camera on a Linux computer.
Thank you for visiting the Kodak web site and your inquiry regarding Kodak support for Linux OS in Kodak products. Our Kodak software engineers are aware of the Linux OS and we appreciate your interest in enabling Kodak products to work with it.
Kodak continues to follow the Linux Operating system. We noted, as far back as March 30, 1999, that Linux announced support of a Linux-USB driver that only worked with UHCI controllers. Since UHCI controllers represent only a portion of the PC market, Linux-USB was very limited and was very preliminary even six months ago.
We had the same situation in the past with preliminary Microsoft-USB drivers and now version 2 USB as well. Sometimes, the availability of these drivers simply does not match our product release dates. Even after the support is there, as is the case with Microsoft version 1, we still have to update our Kodak web site with the latest driver patches to keep in step with Microsoft-USB patches. In addition, Kodak has worked very closely with the USB IF Working Group on the USB standard participating in numerous USB "Plug Fests" where we test out our hardware and software on a variety of computers with various "chip sets".
In the past, prior to the release of Microsoft Windows 98, Kodak worked intensely with the staff at the Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL) to achieve "Windows Logo". This was no small feat with the USB technology forming the basis of the DVC323 and later products and the Windows 98 operating system. As a result, the DVC323 passed all USB compliance testing with Windows 98. I am not sure that there is such a rigorous test standard for Linux-USB. If not, this has serious implications on our technical support staff and the cost for providing a Linux-USB driver.
We understand the issue with devices based on the CPiA chip set and once again are faced with a problem with Linux-USB support in that isochronous transfer is not yet fully implemented. There is a distinct difference when a company claims "USB support" it does not always mean "full USB support". Kodak relies on full support for UHCI and OHCI host controllers as well as their corresponding USB transfer types. The support for this simply is not there yet.
As Linux-USB becomes fully implemented and released with the Linux OS, Kodak may investigate the technical feasibility of developing Linux-USB drivers for future products. I am confident that our technical teams would be able to provide support once Kodak analyzed the business case for such support.
If you require further assistance, please call our call center at 1-800-235-6325 in USA or 1-800-465-6325 in Canada. One of our representatives would be able to help you with this issue. We are open Monday to Friday 9 AM to 8 PM Eastern Standard Time.
Regards,
Mandy G. Kodak Information and Technical Support --- eof ---
I had written a digital camera vendor about 3 months ago and asked about their software support for Linux.
They basically said "USB on Linux is not there yet" but they had obviously looked at the possibility. I hope USB 2.0 will give them what they've been waiting for and in turn give consumers what we've been waiting for -- more bundled software that runs on Linux!
Oh come on, you can't compare the two. Law enforcement is very organized when it comes to fighting the war on drugs. The government also has at least the Drug Enforcement Agency. Not to mention the cooperation of most other countries in the world for catching big time druggies.
If everyone did go against the DMCA, there would be little that could be done. Not to mention, it would behoove politicians to do something about it or they wouldn't be making it to the next term. Worst yet, people would more than likely be staging protests.
A good example? Audiogalaxy, Napster. The record industry couldn't really sue every single person on AG, but shutting down the main service took care of the problem mighty quick and more cost effectively. Not to mention, they didn't directly piss off their customers by the thousands which means more potential customers for the future. Also, think about how many people it would affect by suing say 10,000 people. If we're really all only 6 people apart, that's basically turning the entire country (and more) against you on a personal level.
Yahoo geocities sites are notorious for being taken down automatically under high demand and being replaced by obnoxious advertising. I think the cookbook really needs a new home!
There must be another free hosting service on the 'net with better terms of service, no?
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...*whamo* they look like open source advocates.
Hope they have a flywheel on their bike to keep the backpedalling in check.;)
I'm running an unpatched Win2k Server that's been up for almost 13 months. Yes, believe it or not. It's not doing anything strenuous, but it's pretty constantly slightly busy. I don't use the GUI much. Windows 2000 is certainly more reliable than Windows NT, but in different situations you can be rebooting daily. My opinion is that it depends on what you are doing, and it depends on what hardware you run. An example of a high-uptime Windows app is a hardware-based phone system. An example of a low-uptime Windows app is an application server or power-user workstation.
This story was on Slashdot like 4-6 months ago (not sure of the date). I'd give you a link but Slashdot's search feature is just a placeholder for an actual working and useful search engine - as is the case on most websites these days.
- gather all the names of the people who replied to the previous article you speak of and mark whether they supported microsoft or linux - gather all the names of the people who reply to this article and mark whether they supported microsoft or linux
Do you think it's the same people who replied to both articles? In many cases, sure, but not all.
And I don't agree with the moderation system either, but you saying "I'm expecting to get moderated down" is like saying sarcastically "I'm expecting to get thrown in jail" after robbing a store.
Okay, I can go along with a life sentence if the hacker caused harm against a country or its people, but what about things like ripping mp3's or selling bootleg MPEG's on the 'net? Serious stuff to the media companies, but hardly worth a life sentence.
I've never heard this idea before, but what if time has no meaning? I mean, what if it is infinite? Say the universe lasts 100 trillion, trillion, trillion years and it took us only 20 billion to come about. Then say that the big bang happens again and creates a universe that lasts just as long... but does this an infinite number of times. How significant would we feel?
I don't see why blasphemous content directed against the Lord your God should be tolerated any more than child porn. If you disagree, think about it some more. Would you like "Yo mama" jokes about your mother posted on the Internet?
But a Justice Department source said Wednesday that data retention is mentioned in the strategy only as an industry concern --
ISPs and telecom
companies oppose the costly idea -- and does not reflect any plan by the department or the White House to push for a U.S. law.
Read: ISPs and telecom companies are on notice of what the future holds. It's only a matter of upgrading their infrastructure and we're hosed. No mention of consumers opposing the costly idea (costly in terms of freedom)
Cary Sherman, president of the Recording Industry Assn. of America, called the case "frivolous" and insisted that the music labels have every right to use encryption technology to protect their intellectual property from theft.
Question: What are the IQ's of the people who say this stuff?
I have a better solution than trying to tell people about Mozilla.
Teach other people about what is happening in the tech industry and how it affects their lives. Tell them that the choices they make today will affect their future and their children's future.
Tell them all that, and they will find alternatives not only to IE, but to Outlook, Windows, etc... the general population seems to have an inkling of what software company evil is going on (in my experience), but need someone experienced in the industry to make concrete that thinking.
I don't think the Linux community needs a "dark side" group. What is so "dark" about telling the truth?
...they have endless supplies of cash to wage that war, and can neatly tie up the Linux community's resources that way.
I have to disagree - there are all kinds of people wanting to help the open source movement. Not all of these people want to code or debug.. I'm sure a lot of people would be happy putting their effort into finding out the strengths and weaknesses of all the different software out there - then putting it into words touting the many benefits of OSS.
Sure.. if it was all text. But you often had to deal with ANSI graphics which sucked up the 30 cps pretty darn quick. Or with downloads (eg. XModem which sucked) there were a lot of control characters sent back and forth. Also, line noise cut down on the speed as well. Of course the CPU on the other end was a factor very often! Especially on multi-line BBS's.
Saw this coming from SuSE... I'm not surprised at all. They don't let you download the ISOs from the net, and their tech support is downright rude. They want your dollars and don't give a shit about you.
It's really funny that Microsoft keeps calling open source software a virus. Have they looked at themself?
Microsoft software is everywhere. But once it's in your company, the evil empire can:
- force you to pay maintenance fees or pay much higher costs - change their EULA - provide buggy patches - leave open security holes - dictate what they think is important for everyone - lie to you - pressure you away from exploring other alternatives - tell you what you should be thinking (open source sucks, etc.. etc.. while if that were so true it would be obvious) - jack the price of their office suite which everyone depends on - make your new computer feel like 2 year old hardware - make you pay a tax most places you buy a new computer
They are in a whining phase right now. More than ever! I'm picturing the walls of their empire developing cracks. Five years ago I never would have thought it would happen, but.. they're going down.
Very clever... it's amazing what we'll accept as answers sometimes. Thanks for that tip.
Just yesterday someone was telling me how a person died in a soap opera. The person replied "something happened" and I automatically said "oh, ok". But a few seconds later I was going "Hey, wait a minute..." My question wasn't even answered!
It's helpful to educate yourself on all the ways someone can try and deceive you.
If you're planning to do work in a country where you are a foreigner, make sure you see what the university degree will give you vs. the college diploma. It can make a difference as to how much experience is needed and how long you can stay in that other country.
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I found the email. Here is Kodak's reply to me (dated May 2002):
------------
Greetings _____,
Thank you for your recent visit to the Kodak website and question about
using the KODAK EASYSHARE DX4900 Zoom Digital Camera on a Linux
computer.
Thank you for visiting the Kodak web site and your inquiry regarding
Kodak support for Linux OS in Kodak products. Our Kodak software
engineers are aware of the Linux OS and we appreciate your interest in
enabling Kodak products to work with it.
Kodak continues to follow the Linux Operating system. We noted, as far
back as March 30, 1999, that Linux announced support of a Linux-USB
driver that only worked with UHCI controllers. Since UHCI controllers
represent only a portion of the PC market, Linux-USB was very limited
and was very preliminary even six months ago.
We had the same situation in the past with preliminary Microsoft-USB
drivers and now version 2 USB as well. Sometimes, the availability of
these drivers simply does not match our product release dates. Even
after the support is there, as is the case with Microsoft version 1, we
still have to update our Kodak web site with the latest driver patches
to keep in step with Microsoft-USB patches. In addition, Kodak has
worked very closely with the USB IF Working Group on the USB standard
participating in numerous USB "Plug Fests" where we test out our
hardware and software on a variety of computers with various "chip
sets".
In the past, prior to the release of Microsoft Windows 98, Kodak worked
intensely with the staff at the Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL) to
achieve "Windows Logo". This was no small feat with the USB technology
forming the basis of the DVC323 and later products and the Windows 98
operating system. As a result, the DVC323 passed all USB compliance
testing with Windows 98. I am not sure that there is such a rigorous
test standard for Linux-USB. If not, this has serious implications on
our technical support staff and the cost for providing a Linux-USB
driver.
We understand the issue with devices based on the CPiA chip set and once
again are faced with a problem with Linux-USB support in that
isochronous transfer is not yet fully implemented. There is a distinct
difference when a company claims "USB support" it does not always mean
"full USB support". Kodak relies on full support for UHCI and OHCI host
controllers as well as their corresponding USB transfer types. The
support for this simply is not there yet.
As Linux-USB becomes fully implemented and released with the Linux OS,
Kodak may investigate the technical feasibility of developing Linux-USB
drivers for future products. I am confident that our technical teams
would be able to provide support once Kodak analyzed the business case
for such support.
If you require further assistance, please call our call center at
1-800-235-6325 in USA or 1-800-465-6325 in Canada. One of our
representatives would be able to help you with this issue. We are open
Monday to Friday 9 AM to 8 PM Eastern Standard Time.
Regards,
Mandy G.
Kodak Information and Technical Support
--- eof ---
I had written a digital camera vendor about 3 months ago and asked about their software support for Linux.
They basically said "USB on Linux is not there yet" but they had obviously looked at the possibility. I hope USB 2.0 will give them what they've been waiting for and in turn give consumers what we've been waiting for -- more bundled software that runs on Linux!
Oh come on, you can't compare the two. Law enforcement is very organized when it comes to fighting the war on drugs. The government also has at least the Drug Enforcement Agency. Not to mention the cooperation of most other countries in the world for catching big time druggies.
If everyone did go against the DMCA, there would be little that could be done. Not to mention, it would behoove politicians to do something about it or they wouldn't be making it to the next term. Worst yet, people would more than likely be staging protests.
A good example? Audiogalaxy, Napster. The record industry couldn't really sue every single person on AG, but shutting down the main service took care of the problem mighty quick and more cost effectively. Not to mention, they didn't directly piss off their customers by the thousands which means more potential customers for the future. Also, think about how many people it would affect by suing say 10,000 people. If we're really all only 6 people apart, that's basically turning the entire country (and more) against you on a personal level.
Yahoo geocities sites are notorious for being taken down automatically under high demand and being replaced by obnoxious advertising. I think the cookbook really needs a new home!
There must be another free hosting service on the 'net with better terms of service, no?
Hope they have a flywheel on their bike to keep the backpedalling in check. ;)
Hell yeah, mod this guy up! And mod me down while you're at it. Dumbass.
I'm running an unpatched Win2k Server that's been up for almost 13 months. Yes, believe it or not. It's not doing anything strenuous, but it's pretty constantly slightly busy. I don't use the GUI much.
Windows 2000 is certainly more reliable than Windows NT, but in different situations you can be rebooting daily. My opinion is that it depends on what you are doing, and it depends on what hardware you run.
An example of a high-uptime Windows app is a hardware-based phone system.
An example of a low-uptime Windows app is an application server or power-user workstation.
This story was on Slashdot like 4-6 months ago (not sure of the date). I'd give you a link but Slashdot's search feature is just a placeholder for an actual working and useful search engine - as is the case on most websites these days.
Try this:
- gather all the names of the people who replied to the previous article you speak of and mark whether they supported microsoft or linux
- gather all the names of the people who reply to this article and mark whether they supported microsoft or linux
Do you think it's the same people who replied to both articles? In many cases, sure, but not all.
And I don't agree with the moderation system either, but you saying "I'm expecting to get moderated down" is like saying sarcastically "I'm expecting to get thrown in jail" after robbing a store.
Okay, I can go along with a life sentence if the hacker caused harm against a country or its people, but what about things like ripping mp3's or selling bootleg MPEG's on the 'net? Serious stuff to the media companies, but hardly worth a life sentence.
I've never heard this idea before, but what if time has no meaning? I mean, what if it is infinite? Say the universe lasts 100 trillion, trillion, trillion years and it took us only 20 billion to come about. Then say that the big bang happens again and creates a universe that lasts just as long... but does this an infinite number of times. How significant would we feel?
Yeaah! DJ Doboy is definitely my top favourite of Digitally Imported. I'm a very avid listener of DI - what more can I say - his mixes kick ass!
Thanks for the link!
I don't see why blasphemous content directed against the Lord your God should be tolerated any more than child porn. If you disagree, think about it some more. Would you like "Yo mama" jokes about your mother posted on the Internet?
I have a better solution than trying to tell people about Mozilla.
Teach other people about what is happening in the tech industry and how it affects their lives. Tell them that the choices they make today will affect their future and their children's future.
Tell them all that, and they will find alternatives not only to IE, but to Outlook, Windows, etc... the general population seems to have an inkling of what software company evil is going on (in my experience), but need someone experienced in the industry to make concrete that thinking.
I don't think the Linux community needs a "dark side" group. What is so "dark" about telling the truth?
I have to disagree - there are all kinds of people wanting to help the open source movement. Not all of these people want to code or debug.. I'm sure a lot of people would be happy putting their effort into finding out the strengths and weaknesses of all the different software out there - then putting it into words touting the many benefits of OSS.
Sure.. if it was all text. But you often had to deal with ANSI graphics which sucked up the 30 cps pretty darn quick. Or with downloads (eg. XModem which sucked) there were a lot of control characters sent back and forth. Also, line noise cut down on the speed as well. Of course the CPU on the other end was a factor very often! Especially on multi-line BBS's.
Anyone who sincerely believes that is a total idiot. Plain and simple!
Saw this coming from SuSE... I'm not surprised at all. They don't let you download the ISOs from the net, and their tech support is downright rude. They want your dollars and don't give a shit about you.
I don't get it - if it was so easy, why did it takes months to do?
It's really funny that Microsoft keeps calling open source software a virus. Have they looked at themself?
Microsoft software is everywhere. But once it's in your company, the evil empire can:
- force you to pay maintenance fees or pay much higher costs
- change their EULA
- provide buggy patches
- leave open security holes
- dictate what they think is important for everyone
- lie to you
- pressure you away from exploring other alternatives
- tell you what you should be thinking (open source sucks, etc.. etc.. while if that were so true it would be obvious)
- jack the price of their office suite which everyone depends on
- make your new computer feel like 2 year old hardware
- make you pay a tax most places you buy a new computer
They are in a whining phase right now. More than ever! I'm picturing the walls of their empire developing cracks. Five years ago I never would have thought it would happen, but.. they're going down.
Very clever... it's amazing what we'll accept as answers sometimes. Thanks for that tip.
Just yesterday someone was telling me how a person died in a soap opera. The person replied "something happened" and I automatically said "oh, ok". But a few seconds later I was going "Hey, wait a minute..." My question wasn't even answered!
It's helpful to educate yourself on all the ways someone can try and deceive you.
After all these years!! They finally figured out what makes the Roswell spacecraft tick.
If you're planning to do work in a country where you are a foreigner, make sure you see what the university degree will give you vs. the college diploma. It can make a difference as to how much experience is needed and how long you can stay in that other country.