There's that. Star Trek had a tradition of grand orchestral "space opera" music. This breaks it. The song is "faith of the heart". Lesse...
Space, the final frontier, this is the faith-based initiative of the starship Bleeding Heart...
Nope, doesn't do it for me. And as you can see from my.sig, it's not like I have a strict "no country in sci-fi openers" policy or anything. The Enterprise theme just sucks is all.
He was tortured, beaten, jumped off a tall building in a deep, black well as his spceship crashed on his location, bringing with it a toxic atmosphere through the dome and 3 super nuclear bombs of the future.
Next season, he was still running the station.
Fake death, no matter how much of his life force some old-one shared with him. It was a fake death. Oh noes, he will not live forever? Guess what: No one does, big deal.
Remember that time in Star Trek when there were a race of aliens that hid behind an exo suit from human eyes, the episode called "Is There in Truth No Beauty?"?
The ones where the aliens were excellent navigators and/or pilots, but were said to be so ugly that the human mind couldn't cope with seeing their true form? Remeber how we'd be shown only glipses of the light coming out of their opaque enclosure as it was opened by someone?
I sure did whenever I watched a B5 ep where they discussed the Vorlon's hiding their true self, expecially when we got a glimpse of their true form's light shining out as someone was opening their opaque encounter suit.
I'm also reminded of that anytime someone mentions that B5 "unlike ST" had the occasionnal cameo from a non-humanoid alien. Despite their many, many humanoid alien races.
by myowntrueself (607117) Alter Relationship on Saturday February 26, @04:33PM (#11789285) Remind me, in which episodes do we get to see tholians?
But I'm guessing from that lil' reply of yours that you meant to imply that B5 is better than ST because they had better looking non-humanoid cameos? When that has nothing to do with being B5 or ST, and everything to do with the current state of SFX technology and the budget of the show.
Then again, I'm sure you can find any number of 15 year olds to get on the board "old shows with bad SFX were bad because they're OLD" boat.
They weren't space angels. [...] that those that observed them would perceive them as holy beings [...] to make them think you're the messangers of some deity
If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck...
I knew that, 'cause I did start watching again a year later, but then they pulled a main-charater fake-death season-finale cliffhanger, and frankly, I got disgusted, again, and stopped watching once more.
But the problem with new stuff is it's a risk. Old stuff has brand recognition, wich means a garanteed return on the investment. How else would a hack like Berman manage to keep producing crap like he's done for years if not hrough sheer inertia?
The Matrix was a nice new take on things, Battlestar Galactica is cool, but part of me is tired of the 'hoping to find earth' theme that Voyager beat into the ground.
The Matrix killed itself by replacing some nice cyberpunk post apocalyptic sci-fi with trite pseudo religious handwaving magic. Like, seriously, way to blow your franchise, dumbasses.
Galactica has high quality production values coming out of it's ears, but no originality whatsoever. What with being a remake and all. Still, it's nice to have shiny evil space robots being shot at by babes on TV, makes life seem more worthwile;-)
It was advanced aliens trying to convince people they were space angels for the advanced alien's own selfish ends, which is cool.:)
No, it's not. It's not like I didn't get the whole Aliens planting the idea of angels story, it'ms that I think it is quite lame. Slight difference. I might have felt different if the aliens didn't see them as angels with bumpy foreheads.
You know what I liked the most about B5? It was so NOT the Trek universe [...] And best of all, at least some of the aliens were not bipedal. Hell, I'd take space angels over the bumpy forehead of the week rut that trek got stuck in.
We have a splendid year of sci-fi movies ahead of us! A star wars movie that MIGHT include the death of Jar Jar (hey, I can dream!), A Scanner Darkly, Serenity, 2 (count 'em, TWO!) War of the Worlds adaptations, and this decade is the one that finally features the big screen adaptation of the Hitch Hiker's Guide. Not to mention the superhero revival is still going strong, Brian Singer is busy pissing off Fox by making a Superman movie, we have a great looking Batman origin flick coming out this summer. And the future holds even more wonders, a Logan's Run remake... THAT movie deserves a remake, the story is great, the flick was AWEFULL, though highly quotable ("Run! Runner!", "Fish, plankton, seagreens! And proteins from the sea!").
Around here it aired at 12:05 am on tuesday nights/ wednesday mornings.
I loved it, too-clean spaceships and cheap-looking interiors and all, until I saw the secret of the Vorlons, and I just didn't want to be watching a show about space angels. Good makeup though, and the psy sidestory was quite enjoyable.
But did they really have a good enough story for a feature film, or were they banking on fanboys alone?
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Where to begin?
It's a break from the traditional themes
There's that. Star Trek had a tradition of grand orchestral "space opera" music. This breaks it.
The song is "faith of the heart". Lesse...
Nope, doesn't do it for me.
And as you can see from my
What qualities would such a manager need to keep a tech company healthy?
A love of black turtlenecks?
And therefore it would not have been canned due to lack of advertising revenue.
Except that good shows have been canned on that premise...
Oh Jesus, another Star Trek post ... OK, I should be able to suppress the display of these
Have you tried STFU and GBTW?
Hell, why would nerds even want to discuss star trek in the first place?! The very idea! Pffft!
The last good thing to come out of Star Trek was First Contact, and even that was sketchy what with the ruining of the borg concept.
But they ruined it in a sexy way!
AND we got to see Borgs shot, stabbed and Dataed! It was fun!
DS9 came out before Voyager.
And Enterprise didn't even use the name Star Trek in it's title for 2 seasons.
don't watch it dumbass, and let those of us who want to, to continue to watch.
What about those of us who want to watch it, but only if it doesn't suck? We're getting screwed!
we are being held accountable to rules that we cannot know.
If we were around women more, we'd be used to it...
Spirit of Saint Louis was built with one engine because two engines increased the probability of engine failure.
Funny, I thought it was for fuel economy, weight and space...
Fake death? You didn't watch carefully enough.
He was tortured, beaten, jumped off a tall building in a deep, black well as his spceship crashed on his location, bringing with it a toxic atmosphere through the dome and 3 super nuclear bombs of the future.
Next season, he was still running the station.
Fake death, no matter how much of his life force some old-one shared with him. It was a fake death. Oh noes, he will not live forever? Guess what: No one does, big deal.
I couldn't find any references online so I asked.
Duh?
3 clicks away from a pic.
"Logan's Run" [...] was the same level of acting as Star Wars had at the time.
Seriously, they are one year appart. Check Logan's Run's sfx and models, and check out Star Wars. They aren't on the same footing.
weird confusing letters
Like "W" and "Y"?
lol!
Remember that time in Star Trek when there were a race of aliens that hid behind an exo suit from human eyes, the episode called "Is There in Truth No Beauty?"?
The ones where the aliens were excellent navigators and/or pilots, but were said to be so ugly that the human mind couldn't cope with seeing their true form?
Remeber how we'd be shown only glipses of the light coming out of their opaque enclosure as it was opened by someone?
I sure did whenever I watched a B5 ep where they discussed the Vorlon's hiding their true self, expecially when we got a glimpse of their true form's light shining out as someone was opening their opaque encounter suit.
I'm also reminded of that anytime someone mentions that B5 "unlike ST" had the occasionnal cameo from a non-humanoid alien. Despite their many, many humanoid alien races.
by myowntrueself (607117) Alter Relationship on Saturday February 26, @04:33PM (#11789285)
Remind me, in which episodes do we get to see tholians?
But I'm guessing from that lil' reply of yours that you meant to imply that B5 is better than ST because they had better looking non-humanoid cameos? When that has nothing to do with being B5 or ST, and everything to do with the current state of SFX technology and the budget of the show.
Then again, I'm sure you can find any number of 15 year olds to get on the board "old shows with bad SFX were bad because they're OLD" boat.
They weren't space angels. [...] that those that observed them would perceive them as holy beings [...] to make them think you're the messangers of some deity
If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck...
I knew that, 'cause I did start watching again a year later, but then they pulled a main-charater fake-death season-finale cliffhanger, and frankly, I got disgusted, again, and stopped watching once more.
firefly is very good ... but its not *great*.
It's small, and broken, but it's still good : )
So, how about more truly NEW stuff
;-)
Well, there was Firefly...
But the problem with new stuff is it's a risk. Old stuff has brand recognition, wich means a garanteed return on the investment. How else would a hack like Berman manage to keep producing crap like he's done for years if not hrough sheer inertia?
The Matrix was a nice new take on things, Battlestar Galactica is cool, but part of me is tired of the 'hoping to find earth' theme that Voyager beat into the ground.
The Matrix killed itself by replacing some nice cyberpunk post apocalyptic sci-fi with trite pseudo religious handwaving magic.
Like, seriously, way to blow your franchise, dumbasses.
Galactica has high quality production values coming out of it's ears, but no originality whatsoever. What with being a remake and all. Still, it's nice to have shiny evil space robots being shot at by babes on TV, makes life seem more worthwile
It's like going "Star wars could beat up Star Trek" or "Picard is better then Janeway!" in the playground.
;-)
That's nothing...
Jar Jar is a better captain than Janeway!
There!
It was advanced aliens trying to convince people they were space angels for the advanced alien's own selfish ends, which is cool. :)
No, it's not.
It's not like I didn't get the whole Aliens planting the idea of angels story, it'ms that I think it is quite lame. Slight difference.
I might have felt different if the aliens didn't see them as angels with bumpy foreheads.
You know what I liked the most about B5? It was so NOT the Trek universe [...]
And best of all, at least some of the aliens were not bipedal. Hell, I'd take space angels over the bumpy forehead of the week rut that trek got stuck in.
Yeah. Remind me, how many legs do tholians have?
What's a sci-fi movie geek to do??
We have a splendid year of sci-fi movies ahead of us! A star wars movie that MIGHT include the death of Jar Jar (hey, I can dream!), A Scanner Darkly, Serenity, 2 (count 'em, TWO!) War of the Worlds adaptations, and this decade is the one that finally features the big screen adaptation of the Hitch Hiker's Guide. Not to mention the superhero revival is still going strong, Brian Singer is busy pissing off Fox by making a Superman movie, we have a great looking Batman origin flick coming out this summer.
And the future holds even more wonders, a Logan's Run remake... THAT movie deserves a remake, the story is great, the flick was AWEFULL, though highly quotable ("Run! Runner!", "Fish, plankton, seagreens! And proteins from the sea!").
As a sci-fi cinema geek, I'm thrilled!
A friend of mine has loaned me B5 on DVD, and I keep at it, but I'm not entirely sure why.
;-)
Have you tried watching it sleep-deprived?
Or watching a DS9 ep to give you a sense of perspective about how other sci-fi shows taking place on space stations have fared in the same timeframe?
If all else fails, find a drinking game to make it worthwhile
Around here it aired at 12:05 am on tuesday nights/ wednesday mornings.
I loved it, too-clean spaceships and cheap-looking interiors and all, until I saw the secret of the Vorlons, and I just didn't want to be watching a show about space angels. Good makeup though, and the psy sidestory was quite enjoyable.
But did they really have a good enough story for a feature film, or were they banking on fanboys alone?
he needs to treat both sides equally.
Crybaby.
admitting to being biased makes him less honest politically? I'm really trying to make that work but it just doesn't wash.
I think he's just following the party line and accusing "liberal media" of being "biased" and "dishonest".