Jon Stewart is NOT brutally honest about politics. He would be funnier if he made fun of all sides equally, but he is definitely biased towards the left and has admitted as much.
You think he'd be MORE honest if he PRETENDED not to favour the left? If he acted in a way that hid his true feelings?
He'd be more honest if he'd lie? War is peace. Freedom is slavery?
Your statement really highlights how small minded and obtuse people can be.
Stop berating them. They are allready devastated that the guy they wanted to be when they grew up turned into a chick as it is, there's no need to make them feel worse;-)
That's a trick to lure in people looking for a reality show: "zap, zap,zap, wobbly cam... must be reality tv... hmmm... pretty people... space robots? What? Hmmm... pretty people".
"Oh, they cancelled Farscape!". Yeah, look, I liked Farscape too. That's in the past.
People just miss the muppets. I miss them too... remember how eveyone felt cheated when Yoda didn't look like a muppet? It's Jim Henson's ghost... Maybe Kermit could get a cameo in some alien swamp or something? That might calm them down.
Great, so we can expect to see Starbuck crash-land on an "old-west" town midway through season 2? And she'll have to outgun a Cylon gunslinger?
There already was a firefly-class ship in the show; they have established the presence of cowboy planets as far as I'm concerned. All good sci-fi universes include some form of space cowboys, they just have to : )
Fry: "So there is an infinite number of parallel universes?"
Professor: "No, just the two." Fry: "Oh, well, I'm sure that's enough." Bender: "I'm sick of parallel Bender lauding his cowboy hat over me!"
I'm not real familiar with the "old" BSG, but as far as I can tell, the new one is totally different. It's an excellent show.
This explanation is both hilarious and completely true : )
But you forgot to mention that the best thing about the old Galactica has been included in the new galactica: Shiny robots with a red "eye" that goes back and forth! W00T!
Now I'll go back to pondering the possibility that K.I.T.T. was the illegitimate child of a Cylon and General Lee... carry on.
the effort required to sidestep spam (click it into your junk box) is actually far slighter than the effort required to sidestep a solicitor's phone call
No, just click off the phone. Exact same amount of effort.
They cannot monitor you personal (home) e-mail at your home, but it is debatable as to whether or not the can monitor it if you check your home e-mail at work (provision of bandwidth purchased by company making it their e-mail because you used their bandwidth). when in doubt, leave home stuff at home, don't use work address for personal e-mail...
something in my subconscious will pick up on it well before I'm ever consciously aware of it [...] It's hard to put into words... but I will get a profound sense of "wrongness", like an inaudible alarm bell. The more I ignore it, the worse it gets.
[...] Unfortunately, this ability does not convey any other information other than "you are no longer on the planned course". There is a recognition function in there, but no follow-on advisory function. It's still up to conciousness to correct the problem once discovered. When it happens though... it's really a very odd feeling, and it's quite strong.
I know exactly what you mean.
It's the "I can't quite put my finger on it" feeling. It's... not subconcious, because, you're concious of it, it's simply... incomplete. It's like metadata: You sort of know the size of the file, you just don't know what's in it... er... or something like that.
As for navigation, I was once driving around with my girlfriend, just riding along in my automobile with no particular place to go, and generally exploring the countryside around the city where we lived. After a while we decided to go back home, and I took a turn to head back to the city, so she asked me how I knew to turn there, we'd been going at random as the fancy took us to see an interresting bit of road for hours, and I just knew the direction of home. I almost always know the direction of home, except when I ride the subway. So in the car, we were taking one of those pretzel shaped bit of road that gets you on a highway, and I noticed that I was tracking our shadow. It's just something I apparently have done all my life without thinking about it, and now we were doing a one eighty, and I still had her question on my mind, and I noticed it.
Subconciously tracking the sun... that's not all there is to it, but I think it's an important part of it.
A background process, you are never concious of it as long as it's something happening all the time automatically, like equilibrium. Isn't introspection a wonderfull thing? : )
Also, if their ears are very keen (not damaged by headphones, machinery, and too-loud speakers, as mine are), perhaps they could detect infrasonic sounds associated with an earthquate of the extreme magnitude of that one.
The causes of hearing loss you mentioned damage one's ability to hear high frequencies.
I'm sorry, but there is a piece of wearable computing equipment in my pocket at all times. I mostly use it for music, as an adress book, and occasionally for a good game of brickout... it's the kind of things a computer can do that are convenient on the go.
In fact, most people I know have a sofisticated piece of telecommunication computing technology on them most of the time, some of those can even take pictures! We ask them to turn them off in theatres and in class, but you see people outdoors using them quite often.
if Microsoft implemented this, but didn't turn it on by default, I can't see why anyone would freak out...
Goodbye! You make a good point!
Microsoft implementing something that would redirect everyone to sites they own, not set to "on" by default? I'm guessing that this hypothetical option would also be easy to find, and easy to turn off with a simple, clearly explained "on/off" choice, devoid of alarming warning messages when turned off?
Firstly you are objecting to a change. Previously you were basing the "Ford is white" belief on the books.
I was not. Someone was saying "where in the books" and I hazarded a guess. There's, as I've said a million times by now, the TV series, and the radio series for auditory racial profiling... he sure didn't sound like an American east coast rapper! Your selective, arbitrary dismissal of all that is troubling.
I could make a good argument that Ford's choice of clothes is more significan, given that the TV version was pretty patchwork and the Mos incarnation is undeniably stylish.
You could make an argument, but it wouldn't be good: clothes change. Right now, I am not wearing what I'll be wearing later on today. There is no rason to expect him to be dressed the same way 25 years later as he was before, that is purely a question of fashion... it's more about the time at which he dressed than about who he is.
I think the second objection, which is more subjective, is whether Ford's race is actually a change regardless of the TV series. [...] The only solid base for Ford being white is the TV series. You could argue that the TV series is the basis for the movie, but many of us, more I should think, came to HG2G through the books hence it is not a change for us. [...] The point therefore would be why is race the big change that causes you cognitive dissonance?
First of all, even though you like the idea that he'll also sound different, the basis for HHGTTG is the radio show, and they are changing him there too. It's not important, it's a nitpick. But your obsession with the books is... [expletive deleted].
Btw, personal anecdote: There was once a man, looking very much like Ford in hairstyle and dress (right down to the scarf), that came to me and asked me technical questions about the mechanics of hyperspace. He had never even heard of the HHGTTG... I have led an unusual life in many respects... this one was a highpoint of weirdness : )
Changing Ford's look might diminish my enjoyment of that memory. That's the bit about cognitive dissonance wich you cannot fanthom as being anything different than a prejudice against black people at large. It's kind of sad, and very frustrating, that you can't even imagine someone not liking that casting choice for anything less than a hatred of an entire wing of humanity.
It's still not relevant, btw, but I'm not black (you guessed wrong;).
Minor point, to me at least. I care more about what (some) people think than about what they look like (you should go to the archive and look up the talk about the EarthSea miniseries for more on this subject, the author was alive to tell her opinion of the casting choices... it's interresting, yet almost, but not quite, the exact opposite). I'm disapointed of guessing wrong, but more importantly: Mos Def, hot or not? You care SO much about it, there's got to be a reason... If not indentification, lust? Financial interest? Holy quest? Fanboyism?
Well, it's the next day, I consider the breath taken.
Re-read the thread of posts and try and view them as if they were someone else's. See the bit where you begin your post with "Ok, first off, my opinion of you: Unintelligent, unable to grasps concepts that differ from the standard labels." This is in response to a fairly mild question.
Firstly: El-Spectre said "So, since being qualified isn't enough... what exactly does a black actor have to do to NOT be the 'token' ?"
That question:
Is based on the assumption that being a good actor makes it impossible to be used as a token of multiracial inclusion.
Uses an erroneous interpretation of "token balck guy", applying it as a permanent judgement of the individual actor instead of as a temporary function he has been made to fulfill in a specific production.
Asks for an action that the actor could do to change his "state" of token.
And was followed with an accusation of racism. Them's fighting words, you know.
Let's ask webster.com what they have to say on the subject of tokens:
Main Entry: 1token
Pronunciation: 'tO-k&n Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Old English tAcen, tAcn sign, token; akin to Old High German zeihhan sign, Greek deiknynai to show -- more at DICTION 1 : an outward sign or expression 2 a : SYMBOL, EMBLEM b : an instance of a linguistic expression 3 : a distinguishing feature : CHARACTERISTIC 4 a : SOUVENIR, KEEPSAKE b : a small part representing the whole : INDICATION c : something given or shown as a guarantee (as of authority, right, or identity) 5 a : a piece resembling a coin issued as money by some person or body other than a de jure government b : a piece resembling a coin issued for use (as for fare on a bus) by a particular group on specified terms 6 : a member of a group (as a minority) that is included within a larger group through tokenism; especially : a token employee
And more specifically, of tokenism:
Main Entry: tokenism
Pronunciation: 'tO-k&-"ni-z&m Function: noun : the policy or practice of making only a symbolic effort (as to desegregate)
The token black guy phenomenon is real. It is a practice common in Hollywood to include an underused character, usually dispatched as quickly as possible, of east-african ancestry. In this instance, instead of including a black character and killing him in the first reel, they simply cast a black guy in the role of a formely white main character. Saves the trouble of writing the token a few lines before killing him off, and it serves as a surprisingly effective act of subterfuge to disguise the tokenism.
It is less... half-assed, but it's still a token black guy in the movie: It is the inclusion, for the sake of inclusion, of a black guy. He is not the most logical choice for that role because he does not look like the previous casting choice for the role, unlike all the other actors who do look like the previous actors in their roles looked.
Now, what do I mean by this? You, and that asshole El-Spectre decided to be prejudiced and instead of attempting to understand my point, went the lazy way and interpreted this as hstility towards black people.
You are mistaken.
I had explained myself to what I considered a satisfactory level of clarity in the previous posts. Therefore, his brainless reaction to these posts, not to mention his hostile question based on a false premise, led me to an obvious conclusion: he ain't smart.
I'll give you a chance, because you do not appear to be that dumb. I know I've said otherwise in the heated discussion, but I feel now that the lack of intelligence displayed in your posts was not due to a permanent lack of mental faculties on your part, but to an emotional response on the subject. You mig
Some rappers (and Scatmen for that matter) need to quickly enunciate quite difficult lyrics. As such they could be good at delivering machine gun dialog in a film.
Thank you for the explanation. As I have just stepped out of a time machine from 1981, I was not familiar with this "rap" to wich you reffered.
I'm glad you understood that and did not get the impression that I was sarcastically mocking you for not realising that, obviously, the text had previously been spoken that way by a non-rapper. That would have been quite a misunderstanding.
You'd think the studios would WANT people to enjoy their trailers and hopefully download them for repeat viewing.
If their only goal was exposure, yes.
But they want to control the source so they can amass statistics about who when and where their trailers are dowloaded. If they'd release it in the wild, more people would see it, but they wouldn't get to know or how.
It'll end up in the wild anyway, but that's they act of evil pirates, so they get to add that to their "illegal download" numbers.
Anyway: Did he sound like an American rapper in the original radio show? No.
No, but he did have very fast delivery of quite complex dialog. For that reason, a rapper could be a very good bit of casting.
I'm having a hard time accepting that you genuinly said that.
That, after hearing the delivery of a non-rapper, you think that it would take a rapper to talk like that. 's making me brain hurt. Like, er, how do you think.. who... wha... owww... I need aspirin.
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Jon Stewart is NOT brutally honest about politics. He would be funnier if he made fun of all sides equally, but he is definitely biased towards the left and has admitted as much.
You think he'd be MORE honest if he PRETENDED not to favour the left? If he acted in a way that hid his true feelings?
He'd be more honest if he'd lie?
War is peace. Freedom is slavery?
You must mean Existentialism
Right...
So...if it's not on the internet, it must not exist right....right!?
I can be googled, therefore I am.
Your statement really highlights how small minded and obtuse people can be.
;-)
Stop berating them. They are allready devastated that the guy they wanted to be when they grew up turned into a chick as it is, there's no need to make them feel worse
cripes, get a steadycam for the handheld shots.
,zap, wobbly cam... must be reality tv... hmmm... pretty people... space robots? What? Hmmm... pretty people".
That's a trick to lure in people looking for a reality show: "zap, zap
"Oh, they cancelled Farscape!". Yeah, look, I liked Farscape too. That's in the past.
People just miss the muppets.
I miss them too... remember how eveyone felt cheated when Yoda didn't look like a muppet? It's Jim Henson's ghost...
Maybe Kermit could get a cameo in some alien swamp or something? That might calm them down.
There already was a firefly-class ship in the show; they have established the presence of cowboy planets as far as I'm concerned.
All good sci-fi universes include some form of space cowboys, they just have to : )
I'm not real familiar with the "old" BSG, but as far as I can tell, the new one is totally different. It's an excellent show.
This explanation is both hilarious and completely true : )
But you forgot to mention that the best thing about the old Galactica has been included in the new galactica: Shiny robots with a red "eye" that goes back and forth! W00T!
Now I'll go back to pondering the possibility that K.I.T.T. was the illegitimate child of a Cylon and General Lee... carry on.
bigger fields, less downs, and players slightly less talented.
;-)
They aren't less talented, they're just exhausted!
But with the US making laws that say any of our data passing through a US company is subject to the conditions of PATRIOT act.
Stop pretending you don't live in a client state. The Empire has you, Neo.
the effort required to sidestep spam (click it into your junk box) is actually far slighter than the effort required to sidestep a solicitor's phone call
No, just click off the phone. Exact same amount of effort.
They cannot monitor you personal (home) e-mail at your home, but it is debatable as to whether or not the can monitor it if you check your home e-mail at work (provision of bandwidth purchased by company making it their e-mail because you used their bandwidth). when in doubt, leave home stuff at home, don't use work address for personal e-mail...
Oh, they can, but not legally.
I've been seeing popups with Firefox for a couple months
Not me, but I've been adblocking like a madman for a couple of months too...
Looks like my timing was excellent.
Barcley? Reginald Barcley? Is that you?
something in my subconscious will pick up on it well before I'm ever consciously aware of it [...] It's hard to put into words... but I will get a profound sense of "wrongness", like an inaudible alarm bell. The more I ignore it, the worse it gets.
[...]
Unfortunately, this ability does not convey any other information other than "you are no longer on the planned course". There is a recognition function in there, but no follow-on advisory function. It's still up to conciousness to correct the problem once discovered.
When it happens though... it's really a very odd feeling, and it's quite strong.
I know exactly what you mean.
It's the "I can't quite put my finger on it" feeling. It's... not subconcious, because, you're concious of it, it's simply... incomplete. It's like metadata: You sort of know the size of the file, you just don't know what's in it... er... or something like that.
As for navigation, I was once driving around with my girlfriend, just riding along in my automobile with no particular place to go, and generally exploring the countryside around the city where we lived. After a while we decided to go back home, and I took a turn to head back to the city, so she asked me how I knew to turn there, we'd been going at random as the fancy took us to see an interresting bit of road for hours, and I just knew the direction of home. I almost always know the direction of home, except when I ride the subway. So in the car, we were taking one of those pretzel shaped bit of road that gets you on a highway, and I noticed that I was tracking our shadow. It's just something I apparently have done all my life without thinking about it, and now we were doing a one eighty, and I still had her question on my mind, and I noticed it.
Subconciously tracking the sun... that's not all there is to it, but I think it's an important part of it.
A background process, you are never concious of it as long as it's something happening all the time automatically, like equilibrium. Isn't introspection a wonderfull thing? : )
Also, if their ears are very keen (not damaged by headphones, machinery, and too-loud speakers, as mine are), perhaps they could detect infrasonic sounds associated with an earthquate of the extreme magnitude of that one.
The causes of hearing loss you mentioned damage one's ability to hear high frequencies.
Flamed out?
I'm sorry, but there is a piece of wearable computing equipment in my pocket at all times. I mostly use it for music, as an adress book, and occasionally for a good game of brickout... it's the kind of things a computer can do that are convenient on the go.
In fact, most people I know have a sofisticated piece of telecommunication computing technology on them most of the time, some of those can even take pictures! We ask them to turn them off in theatres and in class, but you see people outdoors using them quite often.
the big ad you're forced to click through.
What ad?
if Microsoft implemented this, but didn't turn it on by default, I can't see why anyone would freak out...
Goodbye! You make a good point!
Microsoft implementing something that would redirect everyone to sites they own, not set to "on" by default? I'm guessing that this hypothetical option would also be easy to find, and easy to turn off with a simple, clearly explained "on/off" choice, devoid of alarming warning messages when turned off?
Hello.
Firstly you are objecting to a change. Previously you were basing the "Ford is white" belief on the books.
;).
I was not. Someone was saying "where in the books" and I hazarded a guess. There's, as I've said a million times by now, the TV series, and the radio series for auditory racial profiling... he sure didn't sound like an American east coast rapper! Your selective, arbitrary dismissal of all that is troubling.
I could make a good argument that Ford's choice of clothes is more significan, given that the TV version was pretty patchwork and the Mos incarnation is undeniably stylish.
You could make an argument, but it wouldn't be good: clothes change. Right now, I am not wearing what I'll be wearing later on today. There is no rason to expect him to be dressed the same way 25 years later as he was before, that is purely a question of fashion... it's more about the time at which he dressed than about who he is.
I think the second objection, which is more subjective, is whether Ford's race is actually a change regardless of the TV series. [...] The only solid base for Ford being white is the TV series. You could argue that the TV series is the basis for the movie, but many of us, more I should think, came to HG2G through the books hence it is not a change for us. [...] The point therefore would be why is race the big change that causes you cognitive dissonance?
First of all, even though you like the idea that he'll also sound different, the basis for HHGTTG is the radio show, and they are changing him there too.
It's not important, it's a nitpick.
But your obsession with the books is... [expletive deleted].
Btw, personal anecdote: There was once a man, looking very much like Ford in hairstyle and dress (right down to the scarf), that came to me and asked me technical questions about the mechanics of hyperspace. He had never even heard of the HHGTTG...
I have led an unusual life in many respects... this one was a highpoint of weirdness : )
Changing Ford's look might diminish my enjoyment of that memory. That's the bit about cognitive dissonance wich you cannot fanthom as being anything different than a prejudice against black people at large. It's kind of sad, and very frustrating, that you can't even imagine someone not liking that casting choice for anything less than a hatred of an entire wing of humanity.
It's still not relevant, btw, but I'm not black (you guessed wrong
Minor point, to me at least. I care more about what (some) people think than about what they look like (you should go to the archive and look up the talk about the EarthSea miniseries for more on this subject, the author was alive to tell her opinion of the casting choices... it's interresting, yet almost, but not quite, the exact opposite). I'm disapointed of guessing wrong, but more importantly: Mos Def, hot or not? You care SO much about it, there's got to be a reason... If not indentification, lust? Financial interest? Holy quest? Fanboyism?
Well, it's the next day, I consider the breath taken.
Re-read the thread of posts and try and view them as if they were someone else's. See the bit where you begin your post with "Ok, first off, my opinion of you: Unintelligent, unable to grasps concepts that differ from the standard labels." This is in response to a fairly mild question.
Firstly: El-Spectre said "So, since being qualified isn't enough... what exactly does a black actor have to do to NOT be the 'token' ?"
That question:
And was followed with an accusation of racism. Them's fighting words, you know.
Let's ask webster.com what they have to say on the subject of tokens:
And more specifically, of tokenism:
The token black guy phenomenon is real. It is a practice common in Hollywood to include an underused character, usually dispatched as quickly as possible, of east-african ancestry. In this instance, instead of including a black character and killing him in the first reel, they simply cast a black guy in the role of a formely white main character. Saves the trouble of writing the token a few lines before killing him off, and it serves as a surprisingly effective act of subterfuge to disguise the tokenism.
It is less... half-assed, but it's still a token black guy in the movie: It is the inclusion, for the sake of inclusion, of a black guy. He is not the most logical choice for that role because he does not look like the previous casting choice for the role, unlike all the other actors who do look like the previous actors in their roles looked.
Now, what do I mean by this? You, and that asshole El-Spectre decided to be prejudiced and instead of attempting to understand my point, went the lazy way and interpreted this as hstility towards black people.
You are mistaken.
I had explained myself to what I considered a satisfactory level of clarity in the previous posts. Therefore, his brainless reaction to these posts, not to mention his hostile question based on a false premise, led me to an obvious conclusion: he ain't smart.
I'll give you a chance, because you do not appear to be that dumb. I know I've said otherwise in the heated discussion, but I feel now that the lack of intelligence displayed in your posts was not due to a permanent lack of mental faculties on your part, but to an emotional response on the subject. You mig
Some rappers (and Scatmen for that matter) need to quickly enunciate quite difficult lyrics. As such they could be good at delivering machine gun dialog in a film.
Thank you for the explanation. As I have just stepped out of a time machine from 1981, I was not familiar with this "rap" to wich you reffered.
I'm glad you understood that and did not get the impression that I was sarcastically mocking you for not realising that, obviously, the text had previously been spoken that way by a non-rapper. That would have been quite a misunderstanding.
That wasn't flamebait either.
The parent of that post, however, was a troll.
You'd think the studios would WANT people to enjoy their trailers and hopefully download them for repeat viewing.
If their only goal was exposure, yes.
But they want to control the source so they can amass statistics about who when and where their trailers are dowloaded. If they'd release it in the wild, more people would see it, but they wouldn't get to know or how.
It'll end up in the wild anyway, but that's they act of evil pirates, so they get to add that to their "illegal download" numbers.
No, but he did have very fast delivery of quite complex dialog. For that reason, a rapper could be a very good bit of casting.
I'm having a hard time accepting that you genuinly said that.
That, after hearing the delivery of a non-rapper, you think that it would take a rapper to talk like that. 's making me brain hurt. Like, er, how do you think.. who... wha... owww... I need aspirin.