Err... Maybe I'm out of the mainstream here, but not only do I want to "know who really lives beside" me, but I actually do. Try it, it's fun. When people walk by, you say "hello" or "nice day" or words to that affect. Think of it as a handshake or conversational header. If you haven't noticed people walk by, you may have to get a laptop or portable computer with a wireless connection. But with the proper networking you to can become social.
Dang that reminds me of -my- high school. We had a decwriter in the "career counseling" office that everybody claimed was on a leased line that "cost thousands to use" so nobody* used it... and then there was a TRs80 in the supply room behind the chem classroom and they would never buy the 8inch floppies for it. Oh yeah wait a minit, we didn't have any ($50) mice... nevermind. bk425
*This asterisk left blank to avoid incrimination. PS There will come a time in your life when 40 really does not seem old. Unless you die first.
http://www.komotv.com/stories/36438.htm Local tv says the bill has "resurrected". AFAIK this is unprecedented, in Washington when a bill is sent to committe to die (late in the session), generally, they die. So if you support expanding protected group status to GLBT, it could be that having Microsoft abandon your cause is a good thing fwiw.
Hmm, lots of folks making the buggy whip comparison here... only we're talking about life and death warnings not what kind of accelerator your transportation has.
In life-critical systems, redundancy is good.
Then there's the point of failure question, with GPS you have a single point of failure: the button that turns the system to "wobbly" (ie the interference they used to inject) can also turn the system to "off". If you were in the oval office and got word of a missile attack on DC... how long would GPS signal be up in that area? Buttons aside, the satellites have limited redundancy and lighthouses, in comparison to deploying hardware to space, just aren't all that expensive to run.
It's good to have a disagreement this clearly defined.
Arrogance is not fine, it's a character flaw; a weakness that demonstrates that someone is not secure with the "right" ness of their arguments. People who are comfortable with what they are saying, people who are comfortable with the rationality of their arguments know that those arguments stand on their own, as a logical and rational answer. If someone is (truly) so closed minded or stupid that someone with a good argument cannot persuade them with reason then "enforcement" is nothing but a detriment to the situation. Smart people leave stupid and/or closed minded people alone rather then sinking time into them, because stupid and/or closed minded people are ineffective (so pose little problem to the majority of people who are open to rational persuasion).
Your attitude is precisely why I tried to bring Historical perspective (a perspective that a lot of technologists mistakenly look down on) into this.
The vast majority of those people "knew" that they were "right"...just like you're claiming in your post. Were they? Did the majority vote for those leaders because of rational arguments about advancing the economy or were they wrapped up in the emotional propaganda and economic fallout of the times? Again, the key is relying on -REASON- not this feeling you have that you are "right". Arrogance isn't just annoying, it is -WRONG-, and it's a natural bedfellow to the kind elitism that lets you believe that you have a right to enforce your idea of "right" on society, and -that- is a very close cousin indeed to the kind of havoc wreaked on the world by leaders like the world got from the Reich(s) (and Laos in the 60s and the Pogrommes... sorry if I seem like I'm picking on 30's Germany. It's the line of thought I'm attacking not the people).
So, I think the parallels are clear and obvious to anyone with an open mind. I hope you'll change your mind about arrogance and the dangerous elitism that it breeds. Boyd Kneeland
Often the light intermingling of arrogance and ignorance on slashdot is so very entertaining. Other times it reminds me of movies about the Hitler Youth. I know we all knee jerk against any references to that era but really, the parent post here could -easily- be found in a pamphlet for good national order diseminated by that youth group. No, I am not comparing the poster to anyone I'm comparing the words... Do people here read history?
Since everyone here's assuming this is horrible let me play devils advocate and say that if Ed spends -half- the money microsoft gave him on richly deserved yachts and the other half on funding future suits against Microsoft... this could be an excellent model for helping to fund legal action against MS.
You don't think they will -stop- giving people reasons to sue do you? (If they did suddenly go all lilly white and pure this would also be a positive outcome). I don't know the details of the suit so I'm not saying they did the right thing in this case. But I have a certain skepticism when everyone jumps on the same bandwagon like we're seeing in these comments. When that happens there's more risk of the wheels coming off IMHO.
No system that "ensures that nothing bad happens to..." you can allow personal responsbility or the freedom that properly flows from it. More to the point actually ensuring this safety can only (logically) be the individuals job not the (insert name of beuracracy here) system. Just as society cannot have police everywhere, no school system can have hall monitors every where at all times. This is an important lesson of adulthood, something that our schools should be -teaching- -to- our children. But instead they offer the (ineffective and dangerous) all encompassing blanket of beuracracy. That's not a good thing, it's harming those children and it's an attitude that harms us. (Yes, I expect schools to take appropriate safety measures. That is definetly and radically different then ensuring that "nothing bad happens to any student".)
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These last two pegged out my irony meter, trying to not post... must put down keyboard... nyagghh!
Ok, "funding" did not "fall through"... westinghouse was widely quoted in news of the day saying he wouldn't pay for a system he couldn't meter (and there were towers in Colorado and a lager one started in NY). So funding didn't fall through it was put into a deep deep hole and carefully covered over... He crushed it, and it may not have been a bad thing given that power plants do in fact have to be paid for.
And why on earth would governments step in and build power transmitters where private capital wouldn't? I'm just glad they didn't, think of a combined US postal service and power transmission... that should scare you.
I've had a digital camera for 5 years, I've had a cell phone for 5+. The "camera"s in these phones aren't half what my 5year old digital is (and it's mostly gathering dust now) and like other I go places where cameras are not welcome. So, I only get in if I leave the phone out in the car. I like my moto730; small, good quality, nice -phone-.
Do any of you -read- the news? The Deulfer report documented the of UN oil for food coupons by Hussein. Those were then -given- to foreign leaders from France, Germany and China and also Koffi Anans son. This wasn't about the e v i l corporations this time (sorry).
If you're talking about -corruption- you are talking about the coupons. If you're talking about -profit- then you are talking about companies that provided goods and services and while here on slashdot we are all supposed to think of that as sick and wrong. But lets get which is which right here...
That's kind of polarizing. How about the 911 center calls the theater, an usher... well, -ushers- you out to the phone, and everyone gets everything they want?
Cell phone users don't -have- to disrupt others and others don't -have- to enforce some sort of massive "manners" dictatorship on tool users.
And, not to soap box or anything ; ) , but that is the problem with general society today. People turn to legislation to solve social ills that would be better and more appropriately handled by turning to the human next to you and starting a conversation with something like "Hi, my names John, how ya doin?". That France had to make a law out of this is more a reflection on the French legal system (and social conventions) then anything else. All IMO. Boyd
I don't follow, you're allowed to personally go touch (so that you can turn the pages of and read) a 16th century document? I have a hard time imagining that's what you meant, but if it is don't you have concerns about what your finger acids will do to that historical page in 50 years? In 100 years it would certainly show the effects of humidity changes from breathe from users that had handled it. IF it survived the handling... all media have archival problems. All human product has permanance issues (even U235 degrades...).
Farenheit 9/11 was about Bush, all of Kopels work is about gun control... Kopel is also a professor of criminology rather then a movie maker. Other then that, um, sure. They're just the same...
It strikes me as a way cooler idea, having a private incentive for space elevators. It's the difference between making current space travel more economically efficient compared to making the next generation more economically efficient. Only, the next generation is cooler because it isn't the current one. It's really not even comparable. The energy benefits of elevators come at the cost of materials science. And commercializing that material creation is a different matter then taking existing aerospace technology and make the use of it commercial IMHO.
BRAVO! And an additional layer to the problem is teaching people that "Harm" should be defined in ever increasing parameters. What was not harm a few years ago now is codified in speech codes and other informal regulation as being punishable. I think that's what the original poster of this branch of the thread was trying to say, albeit in not the most sensitive way. We're teaching people that uncomfortable or not nice things are out and out harm, -that- is lacking in compassion.
The Boeing Museum in Renton has a (standard fixed wing with folding mechanism) flying car circa 1965. Moellers work (ducted fan) hasn't "flown" only because of FAA lawyers. All of these questions (stopping terrorists, wacky taxi driver habits) are social in nature. These storied pop up at least one every quarter but there just isn't much geeky to it.
Read what was quoted. The relevent section of the article is: --- It was a very intensive and demanding treatment and you had to be very strong to withstand it. I had continuous blood and plasma transfusions. For a few months I lived on other people's blood. Then the ulcers from the radiation burns started to appear. I had a lot of burns. Only after a couple of months did it become clear that there was a chance I might live. At that point my body started to work on its own again. I didn't need transfusions. But I was on a continuous morphine drip. My wife Natasha says I had lost a lot of weight and looked like a dying man. She says I spoke very slowly and quietly, but that I always retained a clarity of mind. I understood what was going on. --- The "intensive treatment" he recieved was transufsion and a morphine drip, literally medical treatment that teenage infantry men were giving one another on the fields of WWI. I have no experience of Non US meidcal treatment so my comment is neither favoring treatment in the US or the former republic. But, folks should RTFA before they use it as a platform to launch rants for or against tangentially related things.
"then you shouldn't expect these companies to ask "how high" when you say jump" That couldn't be more wrong. The consumer drives advanced economies and consumer tastes and abilities vary greatly over time. When I was 12 I banked with a local bank where the teller knew my name and I hers. I'm a bit more grown up now, I had a mortgage and it wasn't at one of the many banks that treat their customers like little nothing more then running totals. And, ironically enough, its those small private banks that are now most profitable. Citigroup and the other majors scrap by on 5-10% profits while banks (and more often credit unions) that treat customers as if they mattered make money. No, the customer really is King. And while that doesn't mean a company should take abuse from them it -certainly- means they aren't going to profit if they refuse to provide good service. And that'll only more true as we come out of recession. If your bank treats you badly check out a local credit union. (And if you shop at Best Buy and their ilk then you're getting what you ask for.)
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Err... Maybe I'm out of the mainstream here, but not only do I want to "know who really lives beside" me, but I actually do.
Try it, it's fun. When people walk by, you say "hello" or "nice day" or words to that affect. Think of it as a handshake or conversational header. If you haven't noticed people walk by, you may have to get a laptop or portable computer with a wireless connection. But with the proper networking you to can become social.
"I think these statements actually mean "I like character X more than character Y.""
Um, ya think?
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Dang that reminds me of -my- high school. We had a decwriter in the "career counseling" office that everybody claimed was on a leased line that "cost thousands to use" so nobody* used it... and then there was a TRs80 in the supply room behind the chem classroom and they would never buy the 8inch floppies for it. Oh yeah wait a minit, we didn't have any ($50) mice... nevermind.
bk425
*This asterisk left blank to avoid incrimination.
PS There will come a time in your life when 40 really does not seem old. Unless you die first.
http://www.komotv.com/stories/36438.htm
Local tv says the bill has "resurrected". AFAIK this is unprecedented, in Washington when a bill is sent to committe to die (late in the session), generally, they die.
So if you support expanding protected group status to GLBT, it could be that having Microsoft abandon your cause is a good thing fwiw.
Hmm, lots of folks making the buggy whip comparison here... only we're talking about life and death warnings not what kind of accelerator your transportation has.
In life-critical systems, redundancy is good.
Then there's the point of failure question, with GPS you have a single point of failure: the button that turns the system to "wobbly" (ie the interference they used to inject) can also turn the system to "off". If you were in the oval office and got word of a missile attack on DC... how long would GPS signal be up in that area? Buttons aside, the satellites have limited redundancy and lighthouses, in comparison to deploying hardware to space, just aren't all that expensive to run.
It's good to have a disagreement this clearly defined.
Arrogance is not fine, it's a character flaw; a weakness that demonstrates that someone is not secure with the "right" ness of their arguments. People who are comfortable with what they are saying, people who are comfortable with the rationality of their arguments know that those arguments stand on their own, as a logical and rational answer. If someone is (truly) so closed minded or stupid that someone with a good argument cannot persuade them with reason then "enforcement" is nothing but a detriment to the situation. Smart people leave stupid and/or closed minded people alone rather then sinking time into them, because stupid and/or closed minded people are ineffective (so pose little problem to the majority of people who are open to rational persuasion).
Your attitude is precisely why I tried to bring Historical perspective (a perspective that a lot of technologists mistakenly look down on) into this.
The vast majority of those people "knew" that they were "right"...just like you're claiming in your post. Were they? Did the majority vote for those leaders because of rational arguments about advancing the economy or were they wrapped up in the emotional propaganda and economic fallout of the times? Again, the key is relying on -REASON- not this feeling you have that you are "right". Arrogance isn't just annoying, it is -WRONG-, and it's a natural bedfellow to the kind elitism that lets you believe that you have a right to enforce your idea of "right" on society, and -that- is a very close cousin indeed to the kind of havoc wreaked on the world by leaders like the world got from the Reich(s) (and Laos in the 60s and the Pogrommes... sorry if I seem like I'm picking on 30's Germany. It's the line of thought I'm attacking not the people).
So, I think the parallels are clear and obvious to anyone with an open mind. I hope you'll change your mind about arrogance and the dangerous elitism that it breeds. Boyd Kneeland
Often the light intermingling of arrogance and ignorance on slashdot is so very entertaining. Other times it reminds me of movies about the Hitler Youth.
I know we all knee jerk against any references to that era but really, the parent post here could -easily- be found in a pamphlet for good national order diseminated by that youth group. No, I am not comparing the poster to anyone I'm comparing the words... Do people here read history?
Since everyone here's assuming this is horrible let me play devils advocate and say that if Ed spends -half- the money microsoft gave him on richly deserved yachts and the other half on funding future suits against Microsoft... this could be an excellent model for helping to fund legal action against MS.
You don't think they will -stop- giving people reasons to sue do you? (If they did suddenly go all lilly white and pure this would also be a positive outcome). I don't know the details of the suit so I'm not saying they did the right thing in this case. But I have a certain skepticism when everyone jumps on the same bandwagon like we're seeing in these comments. When that happens there's more risk of the wheels coming off IMHO.
No system that "ensures that nothing bad happens to..." you can allow personal responsbility or the freedom that properly flows from it. More to the point actually ensuring this safety can only (logically) be the individuals job not the (insert name of beuracracy here) system. Just as society cannot have police everywhere, no school system can have hall monitors every where at all times. This is an important lesson of adulthood, something that our schools should be -teaching- -to- our children. But instead they offer the (ineffective and dangerous) all encompassing blanket of beuracracy. That's not a good thing, it's harming those children and it's an attitude that harms us.
(Yes, I expect schools to take appropriate safety measures. That is definetly and radically different then ensuring that "nothing bad happens to any student".)
These last two pegged out my irony meter, trying to not post... must put down keyboard... nyagghh!
Ok, "funding" did not "fall through"... westinghouse was widely quoted in news of the day saying he wouldn't pay for a system he couldn't meter (and there were towers in Colorado and a lager one started in NY). So funding didn't fall through it was put into a deep deep hole and carefully covered over... He crushed it, and it may not have been a bad thing given that power plants do in fact have to be paid for.
And why on earth would governments step in and build power transmitters where private capital wouldn't? I'm just glad they didn't, think of a combined US postal service and power transmission... that should scare you.
I've had a digital camera for 5 years, I've had a cell phone for 5+. The "camera"s in these phones aren't half what my 5year old digital is (and it's mostly gathering dust now) and like other I go places where cameras are not welcome. So, I only get in if I leave the phone out in the car. I like my moto730; small, good quality, nice -phone-.
Do any of you -read- the news?
The Deulfer report documented the of UN oil for food coupons by Hussein. Those were then -given- to foreign leaders from France, Germany and China and also Koffi Anans son. This wasn't about the e v i l corporations this time (sorry).
If you're talking about -corruption- you are talking about the coupons. If you're talking about -profit- then you are talking about companies that provided goods and services and while here on slashdot we are all supposed to think of that as sick and wrong. But lets get which is which right here...
Having backups doesn't mean you accept lower reliability in your main system. Not if it's life critical (as marine navigation is).
That's kind of polarizing. How about the 911 center calls the theater, an usher... well, -ushers- you out to the phone, and everyone gets everything they want?
Cell phone users don't -have- to disrupt others and others don't -have- to enforce some sort of massive "manners" dictatorship on tool users.
And, not to soap box or anything ; ) , but that is the problem with general society today. People turn to legislation to solve social ills that would be better and more appropriately handled by turning to the human next to you and starting a conversation with something like "Hi, my names John, how ya doin?". That France had to make a law out of this is more a reflection on the French legal system (and social conventions) then anything else. All IMO. Boyd
Please don't say "mod chip" and "vein" in a thread having to do with government power : ) (I think)
I don't follow, you're allowed to personally go touch (so that you can turn the pages of and read) a 16th century document? I have a hard time imagining that's what you meant, but if it is don't you have concerns about what your finger acids will do to that historical page in 50 years? In 100 years it would certainly show the effects of humidity changes from breathe from users that had handled it. IF it survived the handling... all media have archival problems. All human product has permanance issues (even U235 degrades...).
Teeth
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Farenheit 9/11 was about Bush, all of Kopels work is about gun control... Kopel is also a professor of criminology rather then a movie maker. Other then that, um, sure. They're just the same...
Fun coorelations, and exactly the kind of non causative claptrap we've come to expect from Slate.
Yeah, other then making ca$H for the school, no reason at all... (not a sports fan myself mind you).
It strikes me as a way cooler idea, having a private incentive for space elevators. It's the difference between making current space travel more economically efficient compared to making the next generation more economically efficient. Only, the next generation is cooler because it isn't the current one. It's really not even comparable. The energy benefits of elevators come at the cost of materials science. And commercializing that material creation is a different matter then taking existing aerospace technology and make the use of it commercial IMHO.
BRAVO! And an additional layer to the problem is teaching people that "Harm" should be defined in ever increasing parameters. What was not harm a few years ago now is codified in speech codes and other informal regulation as being punishable. I think that's what the original poster of this branch of the thread was trying to say, albeit in not the most sensitive way. We're teaching people that uncomfortable or not nice things are out and out harm, -that- is lacking in compassion.
The Boeing Museum in Renton has a (standard fixed wing with folding mechanism) flying car circa 1965. Moellers work (ducted fan) hasn't "flown" only because of FAA lawyers. All of these questions (stopping terrorists, wacky taxi driver habits) are social in nature. These storied pop up at least one every quarter but there just isn't much geeky to it.
Read what was quoted. The relevent section of the article is:
---
It was a very intensive and demanding treatment and you had to be very strong to withstand it. I had continuous blood and plasma transfusions. For a few months I lived on other people's blood. Then the ulcers from the radiation burns started to appear. I had a lot of burns. Only after a couple of months did it become clear that there was a chance I might live. At that point my body started to work on its own again. I didn't need transfusions. But I was on a continuous morphine drip. My wife Natasha says I had lost a lot of weight and looked like a dying man. She says I spoke very slowly and quietly, but that I always retained a clarity of mind. I understood what was going on.
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The "intensive treatment" he recieved was transufsion and a morphine drip, literally medical treatment that teenage infantry men were giving one another on the fields of WWI. I have no experience of Non US meidcal treatment so my comment is neither favoring treatment in the US or the former republic. But, folks should RTFA before they use it as a platform to launch rants for or against tangentially related things.
"then you shouldn't expect these companies to ask "how high" when you say jump"
That couldn't be more wrong. The consumer drives advanced economies and consumer tastes and abilities vary greatly over time. When I was 12 I banked with a local bank where the teller knew my name and I hers. I'm a bit more grown up now, I had a mortgage and it wasn't at one of the many banks that treat their customers like little nothing more then running totals. And, ironically enough, its those small private banks that are now most profitable. Citigroup and the other majors scrap by on 5-10% profits while banks (and more often credit unions) that treat customers as if they mattered make money. No, the customer really is King. And while that doesn't mean a company should take abuse from them it -certainly- means they aren't going to profit if they refuse to provide good service. And that'll only more true as we come out of recession.
If your bank treats you badly check out a local credit union. (And if you shop at Best Buy and their ilk then you're getting what you ask for.)