Don't fall for it. This is all part of Trump's plan to encourage everyone not to depend on the federal government and to do things themselves. It's a trick! Keep the power in the federal government where it belongs. Don't let locals take control, that's the worst possible outcome. The educated people know best, leave it in their hands. Don't let Trump succeed.
Trump showing up doing 3 a day events in the rust belt saying "we will never forget you again" while Hillary didn't show up at all is what won him MI, PA and WI.
What the mainstream heard from media was, "Trump won the rust belt because he's a racist bigot and they agree".
Pew found Democrats have moved substantially left on a variety of issues while Republicans' views remain relatively constant. That was true across social and economic issues; Pew claimed that the split between Republicans and Democrats is more pronounced than any divides by race, gender, or socioeconomic status.
"This poll and some other recent ones show that Democrats are pulling more strongly to the left and Republicans are not pulling quite as strongly to the right as a general matter," said Karlyn Bowman, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute who specializes in American public opinion. http://freebeacon.com/politics/new-study-finds-democrats-moving-left-driving-growing-partisan-gap/
In spite of all the wailing from so many people, the last election should have been thought of as a stirring win. It is the sort of win that, were we in Biblical times, would be remembered centuries later as a David-versus-Goliath type of win. After all, the winners were people with no voice and no power, except through voting. They are despised by the national media, by the educational establishment, by Hollywood, by everyone in one of the two major parties and apparently by a lot in the other major party, too, and even by the sports establishment (though that wasn't so clear back then). Yet, they won anyway. I have not heard anything from our chattering classes that reflects this take on the election. Their take is how horrible and deeply distressing it is that these people won because they are so racist and otherwise disgusting. Such a take is quite at odds with their often-stated claim that they are champions of the little guy.
Face it, your extreme political views don't represent America. And instead of thinking that maybe people that don't support you aren't stupid and evil, you're doubling down on dumb and calling us Americans bad and even worse. How about supporting us when we say we're hurting bad, and taking action to help?
Uh, we deliberately didn't choose the corrupt criminal? Hillary lost?
SJWs are pretty evil, though, I'm with you there. Social justice is making conversations impossible. That's about the most anti-human thing I can think of.
CNN isn't liberal, they're leftist. There's a difference. Liberals believe in free speech. Leftists will happily censor you. You're right about the fake news part though, CNN has been caught lying so many times that they're no longer credible.
It's so weird to see McCarthyism make a comeback. I thought we were so far from that as a country, but here it is. Get an electoral result you don't like, and blame the foreigners. It's the oldest trick in the book. The real reason was Hillary and the Democrats' classist bigotry in rejecting the American working class. Apparently you learned nothing.
Losing elections isn't losing democracy. It's democracy working. Or do you think your set of arbitrary political opinions deserve to win every election, until the end of time? I can't think of anything less democratic.
You're not making arguments, you're attacking me. This is the ad hominem fallacy. Moreover you're putting words in my mouth, like Cathy Newman. "So you're saying..." is a joke now, you know that right?
So, we need to go forth into the world, conquer nations that never attacked us, so we can impose our values on them? You're making the same argument as McCain. Are you aware that you're a neo-con? Because these are neo-con arguments. Remember the men who led us to invade Iraq? Now tell me about rule of law and the necessity of obeying an international order. Make me laugh, I could use a laugh today. The so-called "Pax Americana" has brought only endless wars, leading to countless innocents murdered by Americans, failed states, religious fundamentalism, and nuclear proliferation, as states decide that they will not be the next Iraq. When all you bring is death, the world will mark you as a threat, not a leader.
The globalist establishment is now beginning to discover what many voters intuitively believed back in the 1990s. Building a globalist world order is much more expensive and difficult than it appeared in a quarter-century ago, when America was unopposed. Further, Washington's foreign-policy establishment is neither as wise nor as competent as it believes itself to be.
Without a proper enemy, be it Russia, China or North Korea, our military industrial complex would collapse, tens of thousands of oligarchs and their globalist allies would lose millions of dollars, the focus of the nation would be on our own weaknesses instead of on external threats, and so on and so forth. You can see how this is a totally unacceptable situation and the forces that oppose patriots must never allow this to happen.
Without "regime change" and "building democracy" as a foreign policy people all over the world would stop fighting each other and would start building their nations peacefully which would put an unacceptable strain on the supplies of raw materials and energy. Unacceptable from a strategic point of view.
We Americans have their own lives, hopes, and dreams, but we are sacrificed in a maelstrom of violence, fighting wars we will never benefit from, and being thrown upon the Altar of Political Correctness for all time as kindling wood for the fire that will never heat us.
Pff, you have no idea how the USA works. The state governments are idiots staffed by 4 year graduates from State U. The federal government controls everything, with graduates from the Ivy League. They're not even remotely similar.
Obama bombed a Doctors Without Borders hospital and sent gunners in to kill the fleeing nurses and patients. Check their own website here.
"The attacks took place despite the fact that MSF had provided the GPS coordinates of the trauma hospital to the US Department of Defense, Afghan Ministry of Interior and Defense and US Army in Kabul as recently as Tuesday, 29 September. The attack continued for more than 30 minutes after we first informed Resolute Support and US military officials in Kabul and Washington that it was a hospital being hit."
This was one of the most shocking moments of the 21st Century. You will notice during Obama's last term he would often not be greeted by a senior delegation when visiting foreign countries, this was due to the hospital bombing. Oh, did your news not tell you that? Huh, I wonder why.
As for the deep state, although there's no precise or scientific definition, generally refers to the agencies in Washington that are permanent power factions. They stay and exercise power even as presidents who are elected come and go. They typically exercise their power in secret, in the dark, and so they're barely subject to democratic accountability, if they're subject to it at all. It's agencies like the CIA, the NSA and the other intelligence agencies, that are essentially designed to disseminate disinformation and deceit and propaganda, and have a long history of doing not only that, but also have a long history of the world's worst war crimes, atrocities and death squads. Remember Salvador Allende being overthrown and replace with a dictator? That was the deep state. Don't believe me? View this article in the house organ of the deep state, the Washington Post, in which the deep state is praised as a savior.
Before this harebrained and reckless administration is history, the nation will have cause to celebrate the public servants derided by Trumpists as the supposed âoedeep state.â
The term itself is propaganda, intended to cast a sinister light upon men and women whom Trump and his minions find annoyingly knowledgeable and experienced. They are not participants in any kind of dark conspiracy. Rather, they are feared and loathed by the president and his wrecking crew of know-nothings because they have spent years - often decades - mastering the details of foreign and domestic policy.
God bless them. With a supine Congress unwilling to play the role it is assigned by the Constitution, the deep state stands between us and the abyss.
That's their job to do. Our job is to protect our own people. It is not to go forth and play World Bully. The world hates our guts, and rightly so. We regularly attack countries that are not at war with us.
The concept is pure globalism. But the over-riding point is that Globalism, Cosmopolitanism, Internationalism, whatever you want to call it, has no effective constitution, it has no place for popular representation, it has no constituency beyond humanity at large and has no culture beyond enriching its nomenklatura of experts and commissars and their associated appratachiks. It is simply an oligarchy with totalitarian impulses. Clearly, globalism looks like nothing so much as Stalinism with a Smiley Face that turns vicious when opposed. Here's a letter written by a patriotic American soldier who died for a lie. It's titled, "the true face of globalism".
"I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.
I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all-the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief.
I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans-my fellow veterans-whose future you stole.
Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.
I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go t
Free speech is now right-wing puritanical propaganda.
Jesus Christ, do you people ever listen to yourselves?
Moreover shitting on the deplorables is a long-standing left wing idea.
"You must all know half a dozen people at least who are no use in this world, who are more trouble than they are worth. Just put them there and say Sir, or Madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? If you can't justify your existence, if you're not pulling your weight, and since you won't, if you're not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we can not use the organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can't be of very much use to yourself."
You wanted the smart people in charge, right? Well that's the EU. Now they're making decisions on your behalf because they're the smartest and most qualified to do so. Be careful what you ask for.
The working class? You mean the deplorables? Since when do we care about them? I thought the consensus among civilized people was they can go die in a fire. Since when did we suddenly develop sympathy for these vile racists?
You kidding? People won't keep themselves busy every day. They'll lounge around, play the lottery, watch professional sports, get drunk and high, and play World of Warcraft. I think you're basing your ideas on high-conscientiousness people you hang out with. Societies that work are awesome societies - societies that value idleness are shitholes. You can tell shithole countries because when you walk down the street in the middle of the day you can see all the young men sitting around doing nothing, drinking, gambling, playing games. This is what people do when they value idleness, not research their own interests. How laughable.
Eh, you're half right. What people desire above all, especially men, is status. More money = more things = more status. Show off in a car, look at your status. Show off with a real Rolex, look at your status. Show off with vacation pictures from a place well-known to be expensive, look at your status. But status is relative, and every time you go up, you compare yourself with peers and superiors. You don't compare yourself to where you used to be - high status people view low status people with contempt. Even being around them causes status loss, so stay far away from the deplorables, and you certainly don't gain happiness by comparing your situation to theirs.
Pff, as if the international bankers are just going to let one of their territories go. I see you have no idea how this works. Once they have you, you don't get away, ever. If you do, they send the jackals to wreck your country and work towards eventually overthrowing your government. History is replete with such examples.
Not gonna happen. You Leftists are bigoted classists, bigtime. You don't want anything to do with the deplorables. Here's a comment from another Slashdot user from a few months ago that I bookmarked because it was so ugly:
As a tech professional, I would rather eat glass than live in a so called "flyover" state. I have in-demand skills and I have zero desire to live in places that are small minded, lack diversity, and lack interesting and rich culture. The tech sector is chock full of diverse immigrants and unique people who have no desire to live in a conformist mono-chromatic culture. Top tech talents don't want to eat breakfast at the Waffle House.
When did we start caring about the unemployed whites who are being killed by opioids? They're deplorable, remember? Why the sudden empathy for The Other? Makes no sense.
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Don't fall for it. This is all part of Trump's plan to encourage everyone not to depend on the federal government and to do things themselves. It's a trick! Keep the power in the federal government where it belongs. Don't let locals take control, that's the worst possible outcome. The educated people know best, leave it in their hands. Don't let Trump succeed.
Trump showing up doing 3 a day events in the rust belt saying "we will never forget you again" while Hillary didn't show up at all is what won him MI, PA and WI.
What the mainstream heard from media was, "Trump won the rust belt because he's a racist bigot and they agree".
Pew found Democrats have moved substantially left on a variety of issues while Republicans' views remain relatively constant. That was true across social and economic issues; Pew claimed that the split between Republicans and Democrats is more pronounced than any divides by race, gender, or socioeconomic status.
"This poll and some other recent ones show that Democrats are pulling more strongly to the left and Republicans are not pulling quite as strongly to the right as a general matter," said Karlyn Bowman, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute who specializes in American public opinion. http://freebeacon.com/politics/new-study-finds-democrats-moving-left-driving-growing-partisan-gap/
In spite of all the wailing from so many people, the last election should have been thought of as a stirring win. It is the sort of win that, were we in Biblical times, would be remembered centuries later as a David-versus-Goliath type of win. After all, the winners were people with no voice and no power, except through voting. They are despised by the national media, by the educational establishment, by Hollywood, by everyone in one of the two major parties and apparently by a lot in the other major party, too, and even by the sports establishment (though that wasn't so clear back then). Yet, they won anyway. I have not heard anything from our chattering classes that reflects this take on the election. Their take is how horrible and deeply distressing it is that these people won because they are so racist and otherwise disgusting. Such a take is quite at odds with their often-stated claim that they are champions of the little guy.
Face it, your extreme political views don't represent America. And instead of thinking that maybe people that don't support you aren't stupid and evil, you're doubling down on dumb and calling us Americans bad and even worse. How about supporting us when we say we're hurting bad, and taking action to help?
Uh, we deliberately didn't choose the corrupt criminal? Hillary lost?
SJWs are pretty evil, though, I'm with you there. Social justice is making conversations impossible. That's about the most anti-human thing I can think of.
That's the point, isn't it? Their ideal is that nobody talks back. Everybody bends the knee, and dissenters are sent to the gulag to face reeducation or death.
That's appropriate, since Americans invented slavery so that they could use it on black people.
CNN isn't liberal, they're leftist. There's a difference. Liberals believe in free speech. Leftists will happily censor you. You're right about the fake news part though, CNN has been caught lying so many times that they're no longer credible.
It's so weird to see McCarthyism make a comeback. I thought we were so far from that as a country, but here it is. Get an electoral result you don't like, and blame the foreigners. It's the oldest trick in the book. The real reason was Hillary and the Democrats' classist bigotry in rejecting the American working class. Apparently you learned nothing.
I've seen victim blaming before, but...wow. Just, wow.
Losing elections isn't losing democracy. It's democracy working. Or do you think your set of arbitrary political opinions deserve to win every election, until the end of time? I can't think of anything less democratic.
Calling people who differ from you "the worst" is how you got Trump in the first place. Have you learned nothing?
You're not making arguments, you're attacking me. This is the ad hominem fallacy. Moreover you're putting words in my mouth, like Cathy Newman. "So you're saying..." is a joke now, you know that right?
So, we need to go forth into the world, conquer nations that never attacked us, so we can impose our values on them? You're making the same argument as McCain. Are you aware that you're a neo-con? Because these are neo-con arguments. Remember the men who led us to invade Iraq? Now tell me about rule of law and the necessity of obeying an international order. Make me laugh, I could use a laugh today. The so-called "Pax Americana" has brought only endless wars, leading to countless innocents murdered by Americans, failed states, religious fundamentalism, and nuclear proliferation, as states decide that they will not be the next Iraq. When all you bring is death, the world will mark you as a threat, not a leader.
The globalist establishment is now beginning to discover what many voters intuitively believed back in the 1990s. Building a globalist world order is much more expensive and difficult than it appeared in a quarter-century ago, when America was unopposed. Further, Washington's foreign-policy establishment is neither as wise nor as competent as it believes itself to be.
Without a proper enemy, be it Russia, China or North Korea, our military industrial complex would collapse, tens of thousands of oligarchs and their globalist allies would lose millions of dollars, the focus of the nation would be on our own weaknesses instead of on external threats, and so on and so forth. You can see how this is a totally unacceptable situation and the forces that oppose patriots must never allow this to happen.
Without "regime change" and "building democracy" as a foreign policy people all over the world would stop fighting each other and would start building their nations peacefully which would put an unacceptable strain on the supplies of raw materials and energy. Unacceptable from a strategic point of view.
We Americans have their own lives, hopes, and dreams, but we are sacrificed in a maelstrom of violence, fighting wars we will never benefit from, and being thrown upon the Altar of Political Correctness for all time as kindling wood for the fire that will never heat us.
Pff, you have no idea how the USA works. The state governments are idiots staffed by 4 year graduates from State U. The federal government controls everything, with graduates from the Ivy League. They're not even remotely similar.
Obama bombed a Doctors Without Borders hospital and sent gunners in to kill the fleeing nurses and patients. Check their own website here.
"The attacks took place despite the fact that MSF had provided the GPS coordinates of the trauma hospital to the US Department of Defense, Afghan Ministry of Interior and Defense and US Army in Kabul as recently as Tuesday, 29 September. The attack continued for more than 30 minutes after we first informed Resolute Support and US military officials in Kabul and Washington that it was a hospital being hit."
This was one of the most shocking moments of the 21st Century. You will notice during Obama's last term he would often not be greeted by a senior delegation when visiting foreign countries, this was due to the hospital bombing. Oh, did your news not tell you that? Huh, I wonder why.
As for the deep state, although there's no precise or scientific definition, generally refers to the agencies in Washington that are permanent power factions. They stay and exercise power even as presidents who are elected come and go. They typically exercise their power in secret, in the dark, and so they're barely subject to democratic accountability, if they're subject to it at all. It's agencies like the CIA, the NSA and the other intelligence agencies, that are essentially designed to disseminate disinformation and deceit and propaganda, and have a long history of doing not only that, but also have a long history of the world's worst war crimes, atrocities and death squads. Remember Salvador Allende being overthrown and replace with a dictator? That was the deep state. Don't believe me? View this article in the house organ of the deep state, the Washington Post, in which the deep state is praised as a savior.
A foreign policy establishment that serves its own goals instead of obeying the elected government. That's the definition of "deep state".
China is going strong in the sciences, while America has a replication crisis in the humanities. For anyone who doesn't know, this means that the "science" performed for the last 20-30 years or so in the humanities is not able to be replicated. In other words, it's not science. In a strange coincidence, in the last 20-30 years the intellectual upper class moved far out to the left.
For more on this, see Heterodox Academy's piece on the topic.
Whataboutism in action. Neither addressing nor refuting the statement.
" If we do, then does everyone else?"
That's their job to do. Our job is to protect our own people. It is not to go forth and play World Bully. The world hates our guts, and rightly so. We regularly attack countries that are not at war with us.
You hate neo-cons, right? The ones that led us into Iraq? Neo-cons are globalists. I highly advise reading Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope, which is basically the bible for globalism.
The concept is pure globalism. But the over-riding point is that Globalism, Cosmopolitanism, Internationalism, whatever you want to call it, has no effective constitution, it has no place for popular representation, it has no constituency beyond humanity at large and has no culture beyond enriching its nomenklatura of experts and commissars and their associated appratachiks. It is simply an oligarchy with totalitarian impulses. Clearly, globalism looks like nothing so much as Stalinism with a Smiley Face that turns vicious when opposed. Here's a letter written by a patriotic American soldier who died for a lie. It's titled, "the true face of globalism".
"I write this letter on the 10th anniversary of the Iraq War on behalf of my fellow Iraq War veterans. I write this letter on behalf of the 4,488 soldiers and Marines who died in Iraq. I write this letter on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of veterans who have been wounded and on behalf of those whose wounds, physical and psychological, have destroyed their lives. I am one of those gravely wounded. I was paralyzed in an insurgent ambush in 2004 in Sadr City. My life is coming to an end. I am living under hospice care.
I write this letter on behalf of husbands and wives who have lost spouses, on behalf of children who have lost a parent, on behalf of the fathers and mothers who have lost sons and daughters and on behalf of those who care for the many thousands of my fellow veterans who have brain injuries. I write this letter on behalf of those veterans whose trauma and self-revulsion for what they have witnessed, endured and done in Iraq have led to suicide and on behalf of the active-duty soldiers and Marines who commit, on average, a suicide a day. I write this letter on behalf of the some 1 million Iraqi dead and on behalf of the countless Iraqi wounded. I write this letter on behalf of us all-the human detritus your war has left behind, those who will spend their lives in unending pain and grief.
I write this letter, my last letter, to you, Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. I write not because I think you grasp the terrible human and moral consequences of your lies, manipulation and thirst for wealth and power. I write this letter because, before my own death, I want to make it clear that I, and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans, along with millions of my fellow citizens, along with hundreds of millions more in Iraq and the Middle East, know fully who you are and what you have done. You may evade justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes, of plunder and, finally, of murder, including the murder of thousands of young Americans-my fellow veterans-whose future you stole.
Your positions of authority, your millions of dollars of personal wealth, your public relations consultants, your privilege and your power cannot mask the hollowness of your character. You sent us to fight and die in Iraq after you, Mr. Cheney, dodged the draft in Vietnam, and you, Mr. Bush, went AWOL from your National Guard unit. Your cowardice and selfishness were established decades ago. You were not willing to risk yourselves for our nation but you sent hundreds of thousands of young men and women to be sacrificed in a senseless war with no more thought than it takes to put out the garbage.
I joined the Army two days after the 9/11 attacks. I joined the Army because our country had been attacked. I wanted to strike back at those who had killed some 3,000 of my fellow citizens. I did not join the Army to go t
Free speech is now right-wing puritanical propaganda. Jesus Christ, do you people ever listen to yourselves? Moreover shitting on the deplorables is a long-standing left wing idea.
"You must all know half a dozen people at least who are no use in this world, who are more trouble than they are worth. Just put them there and say Sir, or Madam, now will you be kind enough to justify your existence? If you can't justify your existence, if you're not pulling your weight, and since you won't, if you're not producing as much as you consume or perhaps a little more, then, clearly, we can not use the organizations of our society for the purpose of keeping you alive, because your life does not benefit us and it can't be of very much use to yourself."
-- George Bernard Shaw, socialist
Only racists ever claim protections under the US' extremist "free speech" clause. Congratulations, you have no way of getting rid of these people.
You wanted the smart people in charge, right? Well that's the EU. Now they're making decisions on your behalf because they're the smartest and most qualified to do so. Be careful what you ask for.
The working class? You mean the deplorables? Since when do we care about them? I thought the consensus among civilized people was they can go die in a fire. Since when did we suddenly develop sympathy for these vile racists?
You kidding? People won't keep themselves busy every day. They'll lounge around, play the lottery, watch professional sports, get drunk and high, and play World of Warcraft. I think you're basing your ideas on high-conscientiousness people you hang out with. Societies that work are awesome societies - societies that value idleness are shitholes. You can tell shithole countries because when you walk down the street in the middle of the day you can see all the young men sitting around doing nothing, drinking, gambling, playing games. This is what people do when they value idleness, not research their own interests. How laughable.
Eh, you're half right. What people desire above all, especially men, is status. More money = more things = more status. Show off in a car, look at your status. Show off with a real Rolex, look at your status. Show off with vacation pictures from a place well-known to be expensive, look at your status. But status is relative, and every time you go up, you compare yourself with peers and superiors. You don't compare yourself to where you used to be - high status people view low status people with contempt. Even being around them causes status loss, so stay far away from the deplorables, and you certainly don't gain happiness by comparing your situation to theirs.
Pff, as if the international bankers are just going to let one of their territories go. I see you have no idea how this works. Once they have you, you don't get away, ever. If you do, they send the jackals to wreck your country and work towards eventually overthrowing your government. History is replete with such examples.
I see you don't know how to do proper journalism.
"Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have."
-- Richard Salant, former President of CBS News
When did we start caring about the unemployed whites who are being killed by opioids? They're deplorable, remember? Why the sudden empathy for The Other? Makes no sense.