It IS interesting to see this knee-jerk reaction. While DDOS attackes wont have any long term affect directly, you have to wonder if and when people will start shying away from SCO because of all these problems they are having. After a while, I think whether they are right or wrong about the SCO/IBM deal really wont even matter. Who cares if they are right if the focus of their company is 1) Legal Crap 2) Fending off DDOS.
I'm just interested to see what all this is gonna do to it's stock price.
...I can boycott the MPAA as well...plus movies suck balls these days...I refuse to see the hulk...too bad...guess I wont be seeing the latest matrix anytime soon......plus, the stuff you see at the Angelica is better anyway...anyone see the Station Master? Good stuff.
This is what someone needs to do. Say, IBM needs to accuse Microsoft of putting it's code into Windows...then refuse to show it. That way, everyone will know it's totally bogus, and some real resolution will come out and IBM will have to poney up, but not that much. And a precedent will be set on how to deal with SCO. Just need some kind of catalyst.
What's hard about it is how is any politician gonna make money on the side? I mean, if there is no 80 billion dollar deal for "fancy" voting machine, how is anyone ever gonna make that 40 Mill?
Gotta move money dood or the polies don't get rich.
...the stock price goes up 49 cents on Monday, the execs dump some more stock (I think it's in their business plan), this news fizzles out in about 5-6 days then go back to step 1, which is make some dumb announcement......isn't this illegal? Or not really in the land of republicans (The U.S. (TM)(C)(c))...
I JUST watched a documentary on this last night. It was really interesting. The wright brothers created the first powered airplane on their own while the goverment wasted thousands funding someone else. It was a fascinating story about these two inseperable brothers who ran a bicycle shop and decided to build their own plane. They were very methodical and: 1) Came up with the idea of what we call "Lift" 2) Created the first propeller as we use it today 3) Invented the wind tunnel for testing
All on their own! They also developed the way modern planes "stear"...as in angle and yaw are connected (i believe that's what they are).
The worked very very hard on this plane and left tons of notes...however...we do not have that plane. That's why the "Wright Experience" set out to build a replica based on the brothers notes...to the T! They knew they could make improvements, fixes...but then they wouldn't be building a replica.
Gives these guys a break...it took years to put this thing together as accuratly as possible...from the fabric to even the damn engine !
I wouldn't do that. The next headline will be, "Cracker goes to jail for showing flaws in electronic voting system"...I mean, this is America...home of the patriot act and indefinate imprisonment without cause.
I tell ya what casts doubt on the author is the fact that he says "start with the interface". I mean c'mon. That's not the right way to program...that's just backwards. Your application should perform it's function and the interface should be started later. Starting with the interface causes your application to be "glued" to it and you do in fact have to rewrite it several times that way.
Dood...I'm telling you. I had to go find it...I think it was the EULA for the WinXP embedded IDE...not exactly sure what it is. Trust me though man. This is aint to religious spouting off. I used to be a VB programmer...was all about Microsoft. But once you cross the line...once you spend time programming with non-microsoft tools, it's super hard going back.
Of course, your future will be what Microsoft says it will be, and nothing more. But hey, some people feel more secure that way.
As far as SCO goes, everyone is pretty much ignoring it. What people fail to realize is that if there was no Linux, there would be something else. It pretty much has nothing to do with Linux. People like to write code. They write code for personal need, for community, for lot's of reasons. And people want to share code. Don't you? And you can't stop that. You can't stop people wanting to share code.
Except for you. Since you rely on Microsoft, you should know that by using some Microsoft products, you can't share code with others. Why? Because Microsoft has said you can't...it's in the EULA.
I think we need to create a second internet for this odd data. One with problems, etc...just like the real internet. When data becomes odd, it will fall into this second internet and feel that it has made a choice. Hopefully it wont realize that the problem is choice.
i have to add that IBM is doing a lot of direct work with both RedHat AND Suse...they are playing both. Because a lot of people fall into the "IBM's hardware is too big for us" group, RH is working directly with Dell too, who is now a reseller of RH support.
If you look at what Oracle is doing you'll find that THEY are standardizing on RedHat Advanced server (now that it is out). This means that if you want Oracle on Linux support, you better be running RHAS. It's not just marketting bullshit. If Oracle (and all these other big vendors (PeopleSoft is migrating to Linux I've heard)) is to adopt Linux, then linux must slow way the hell down and give Oracle and other companies the ability to say that they can run on this AS platform. The AS release cycle is slower but keep in mind it's not really JUST for Linux end-users, it's so these other vendors can target the platform and thus adopt it for support...a problem that doesn't really come up in the propriatary world.
Will you be running Oracle? PeopleSoft? Other apps that will be supporting ONLY advanced server? If yes, sorry pal, you need AS. If not, then fuck it. Don't worry about it then. Go with 8 or um, 9...er...yeah.
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Amen brotha
...GImme a fucking break.
It IS interesting to see this knee-jerk reaction. While DDOS attackes wont have any long term affect directly, you have to wonder if and when people will start shying away from SCO because of all these problems they are having. After a while, I think whether they are right or wrong about the SCO/IBM deal really wont even matter. Who cares if they are right if the focus of their company is 1) Legal Crap 2) Fending off DDOS.
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I'm just interested to see what all this is gonna do to it's stock price.
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...remind me to never do anything with Valve!
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stupid 20 seconds.
All this for a little bit of money. You know there's more to life than a little bit of money.
And here it is, such a beautiful day.
I thought I saw somewhere that the hidden data on top of data illegal.
Amen.
Microsoft could probably make a pretty good living off of fixing problems they started in the frist place.
...does that make me dirty?
...I can boycott the MPAA as well...plus movies suck balls these days...I refuse to see the hulk...too bad...guess I wont be seeing the latest matrix anytime soon... ...plus, the stuff you see at the Angelica is better anyway...anyone see the Station Master? Good stuff.
Me too. I pick 4...or like if there was something between 3 and 4.
This is what someone needs to do. Say, IBM needs to accuse Microsoft of putting it's code into Windows...then refuse to show it. That way, everyone will know it's totally bogus, and some real resolution will come out and IBM will have to poney up, but not that much. And a precedent will be set on how to deal with SCO. Just need some kind of catalyst.
What's hard about it is how is any politician gonna make money on the side? I mean, if there is no 80 billion dollar deal for "fancy" voting machine, how is anyone ever gonna make that 40 Mill?
Gotta move money dood or the polies don't get rich.
...the stock price goes up 49 cents on Monday, the execs dump some more stock (I think it's in their business plan), this news fizzles out in about 5-6 days then go back to step 1, which is make some dumb announcement... ...isn't this illegal? Or not really in the land of republicans (The U.S. (TM)(C)(c)) ...
I JUST watched a documentary on this last night. It was really interesting. The wright brothers created the first powered airplane on their own while the goverment wasted thousands funding someone else. It was a fascinating story about these two inseperable brothers who ran a bicycle shop and decided to build their own plane. They were very methodical and:
1) Came up with the idea of what we call "Lift"
2) Created the first propeller as we use it today
3) Invented the wind tunnel for testing
All on their own! They also developed the way modern planes "stear"...as in angle and yaw are connected (i believe that's what they are).
The worked very very hard on this plane and left tons of notes...however...we do not have that plane. That's why the "Wright Experience" set out to build a replica based on the brothers notes...to the T! They knew they could make improvements, fixes...but then they wouldn't be building a replica.
Gives these guys a break...it took years to put this thing together as accuratly as possible...from the fabric to even the damn engine !
Thanks for playing
"If I make an exact replica of your car, I don't think you would claim I'd taken your car."
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No but GM sure as hell would!
I wouldn't do that. The next headline will be, "Cracker goes to jail for showing flaws in electronic voting system"...I mean, this is America...home of the patriot act and indefinate imprisonment without cause.
"I used to use Gnome until they merged with KDE. But my friend was telling me the Microsoft Windows window manager is not that bad..."
What kind of damn name is Ransom Love???
Christ
I tell ya what casts doubt on the author is the fact that he says "start with the interface". I mean c'mon. That's not the right way to program...that's just backwards. Your application should perform it's function and the interface should be started later. Starting with the interface causes your application to be "glued" to it and you do in fact have to rewrite it several times that way.
And what do you mean about the humor??? You were just kidding? I need tags for this kinda thing man. TAGS!
Dood...I'm telling you. I had to go find it...I think it was the EULA for the WinXP embedded IDE...not exactly sure what it is. Trust me though man. This is aint to religious spouting off. I used to be a VB programmer...was all about Microsoft. But once you cross the line...once you spend time programming with non-microsoft tools, it's super hard going back.
Of course, your future will be what Microsoft says it will be, and nothing more. But hey, some people feel more secure that way.
As far as SCO goes, everyone is pretty much ignoring it. What people fail to realize is that if there was no Linux, there would be something else. It pretty much has nothing to do with Linux. People like to write code. They write code for personal need, for community, for lot's of reasons. And people want to share code. Don't you? And you can't stop that. You can't stop people wanting to share code.
Except for you. Since you rely on Microsoft, you should know that by using some Microsoft products, you can't share code with others. Why? Because Microsoft has said you can't...it's in the EULA.
Have a nice, secure future!
I think we need to create a second internet for this odd data. One with problems, etc...just like the real internet. When data becomes odd, it will fall into this second internet and feel that it has made a choice. Hopefully it wont realize that the problem is choice.
i have to add that IBM is doing a lot of direct work with both RedHat AND Suse...they are playing both. Because a lot of people fall into the "IBM's hardware is too big for us" group, RH is working directly with Dell too, who is now a reseller of RH support.
If you look at what Oracle is doing you'll find that THEY are standardizing on RedHat Advanced server (now that it is out). This means that if you want Oracle on Linux support, you better be running RHAS. It's not just marketting bullshit. If Oracle (and all these other big vendors (PeopleSoft is migrating to Linux I've heard)) is to adopt Linux, then linux must slow way the hell down and give Oracle and other companies the ability to say that they can run on this AS platform. The AS release cycle is slower but keep in mind it's not really JUST for Linux end-users, it's so these other vendors can target the platform and thus adopt it for support...a problem that doesn't really come up in the propriatary world.
Will you be running Oracle? PeopleSoft? Other apps that will be supporting ONLY advanced server? If yes, sorry pal, you need AS. If not, then fuck it. Don't worry about it then. Go with 8 or um, 9...er...yeah.