The MPAA organizes the Rating System, and the RIAA awards whether an album goes Gold or Platinum. They also do a lot of lobbying.
And to fund this they sue people...
The above have nothing to do with providing a service. They are only furthering their own interests. If RIAA and the equivalent organisations world wide label certain albums as gold or platinum, they become more desireable to people who in turn buy more. Film classification is also about having a marketable product for people who have younger children (and avoiding getting sued themselves.
Phone booths are for making phone calls. I don't want to download mp3s, read my email, or order takeout from my public phone. For starters I'd like to be able to make calls. With mobiles so prevalent public phone boths are being scrapped and falling into disrepair everywhere. There aren't many places in my local area I can even make a public phone call from a booth anymore.
What advantage does public phone mp3 offer over at home internet access? If you're on the road there are Internet cafes everywhere already - many of them with 24 hr acces - and provided they'll let you hook into their computer you're all set.
I'd be more excited about wireless broadband downloads on a small mp3 player like the ipod. All you'd need is the wireless modem built in, plus a simple interface to have a music store in your pocket. THAT would be more worthwhile.
Phone booth mp3 downloads are old.com bomb thinking all over again. "I know. Lets put in lots of infrastructure for a small return and wonder why the share price doesn't continue to skyrocket while our losses mount."
Its the $1000 worth of hardware that you have to buy for a good system - THAT is the problem. Not the fact that you buy 4 bits of software these days and it costs more than the hardware. What a steaming crock of smelly shit.
4 Words. Steve...loves...to...bullshit! yeahhhhhh!!!! yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Who said you could sit down.
Like any tool having multiple desktops can be abused. If you want to watch a DVD on one screen then yes it'll detract from your ability to focus on the task at hand. However I run 2 screens both at home and at work. I find 2 screens useful if you want to:
1) Debug an application, especially GUI (without generating events get in the way using alt-tab) 2) Compare documents (especially spreadsheets) 3) Run 2 separate processes one of which only needs the occassional glance (eg. monitor a software load process you expect to succeed while reading email or browsing the web) 4) View something full screen but still have toolbars etc displayed (as in picture editing) 5) Watch to make sure that what you're doing won't kill your CD/DVD burn
When I don't need to do these things, I turn off one display. Its much better than having 2 computers your desk even with a KVM (though I still sometimes do that at home if I'm doing anything that truely ties up one machine).
As amazing as Hubble has been, I fail to see how dumping huge sums of money into keeping it going is worth it if we can dump similar sums of money into earth-based technology with better results.
Going above the atmosphere gives you things no Earth based technique will give you.
For a start you get to see the full spectrum - not just the part the Earth's atmosphere doesn't obscure.
Secondly no amount of correction will compensate for atmospheric disturbances in the opaque part of the spectrum as well as getting above it, and out of the atmosphere. Adaptive optics is an excellent technology which should certainly be used and improved, but it simply isn't going to magically make it like the atmosphere isn't there.
Thirdly you're not going to gain the same engineering knowledge and experience staying Earth bound.
Here's an analogy with transport. What you're saying is the equivalent of saying "aircraft are too hard to build and too expensive. Using existing water and land based transport we can transport anything almost anywhere so lets never advance our aircraft building skills".
IF the nerds who care about ogg only shared files in ogg format then you can bet your ass 90% of your friends would care.
You want to increase the popularity of ogg? Then stop sharing MP3s, it will happen overnight.
That WAS true to some extent when it was hard to take a CD and convert to MP3. If "nerds who care" only shared in Ogg, their friends would call them nerds and move on to source their music from musical non-nerds who can stumble their way to installing and running Audiograbber (or even simpler software), and from the net. They would then see their nerd friends as UNHELPFUL social misfits instead of just a social misfits. The nerds would lose out.
I love it when people say they can see into the future. I can't even tell you if I'll have a viable job in 5 years, and things today are certainly not what I thought they'd be 5 years ago.
I love the claim about having the biological body of a 40 year old at 56. Reminds me of anti-aging creams they sell stupid women for hundreds of dollars a jar.
I'd rather be shit on by a bird than have my house hit by a Satellite. We're talking several order of magnitudes times the damage/impact on someone's life. I mean how big would the bird have to be to do the same amount of damage?? Godzilla vs The Mutant Chicken!
I run Windows XP on a 384 meg/450mhz K6-III, a 192 meg/400mhz pentium III, and a 80meg/133mhz pentium. All three machines run it with good responsiveness.
Well bravo to you!
If all you're doing is using MS Office fair enough. But which of these machines would you use to: 1) Burn a DVD. 2) Edit a picture with the latest version of Photoshop? 3) Do software development on. 4) Encode MP3s on. 5) Print a large document.
Last time I looked these were all tasks that fairly non-technical users would might want to do. I guarantee you won't be running Longhorn on your current machines.
This is an excellent way for you to tezch your children to do things on the sly, get them involved in software piracy (war3z d00d!) and get them breaking the law as well as disobeying you.
At the end of the day where are they going to play the games anyway? At home or at a friend's house. If the child is young enough you have control over that and if the child is old enough for goodness sake teach them to think for themselves and stop sending out the message that its okay for 25 year old to have the same level of maturity as 12 year olds a generation or two ago.
I do need to qualify this. I am not a parent at present, and do not know how good a parent I'll make if I ever become one.
Pah. Are you saying that running the latest version of Windows (Whatever Longhorn/Aero/Avalon become) something that no one cares about? Some of it will be GPU intensive but I suspect a lot of it will also be CPU intensive. Minimum requirements for developers are can be found at:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/Longhorn/Support/lhdev fa q/
It's still too early to determine the final hardware requirements. You can run the developer preview on a typical machine from the past two years, although it's a better experience on newer, higher end systems.
Ed Kaim, Microsoft, February 10, 2004 #
Here are the requirements that MSDN subscribers received with the PDC Longhorn.
End User Desktop Minimum System Requirements. Pentium III 800 MHz or equivalent. 256 MB RAM. Graphics: GPU: Dx7 support. Display: Minimum resolution of 1024x768, at 32 bits per pixel. VRAM: 32MB at minimum resolution.
As Mike Brannigan says--these aren't set for the final product--these are just minimums for the [pre]-Alpha release.
Already needing an 800MHz processor just to run the OS. Likely to be upped. Yes a lot of this is for ridiculous eyecandy. Yes we could probably still be using 66MHz processors and do much the same things we do today, but software developers have become reliant on the fact that the hardware becomes more capable every year. In 10 years you won't be talking about 3.8GHz being too much. Think of the memory and processing power used on the Apollo Lunar missions. Your typical desktop calculator is more advanced.
Also things have always progressed in small stepts when it comes to CPU performance. 3.0 to 3.8 is about 26%. We've had similar jumps before. 133 to 166 MHz is about 25%.
Whoooo. Take a deep breath. You can't seriously be holding a grudge from the early 80s! I mean, I know they're formative years--I still miss Leisure Suit Larry--but seriously, it's time to let go.
Of course I can. Why not? This company did me significant damage and contributed to putting me off computing for years. What's more my most recent experiences with them indicate they've learnt very little or nothing since the early 80's. The only Apple product I'm even tempted to buy is the iPod, and even that's a spectacularly retarded product. (Where the fuck's the radio?). I wouldn't touch their iBook/iMac/eMac/Thanks for the marketing hype Mac. Apple can sod off and die.
Asking the price of the Linux Kernel is pointless.
What exactly would you be buying?
The right to make it proprietary? (Sell it or a derivative for a lot of money) That'd be worth a lot to a few of companies - who wouldn't sell it they'd just keep it locked up and continue selling their own product?
The right to use it? Value there would be $0 thanks. You already have that for free unless you want to modify in a way that doesn't comply with the GPL.
The right to sell it. People already do that - oh sorry correction my mistake sell support for it.
The question is pointless because you can't un-GPL it once its been released under GPL...which is the point of that license.
I think the question being asked here is what would it cost to develop something similar? The answer is bucketloads. But why would you want to? How many freaking times does UNIX need to be redeveloped. Go create a different OS.
Sounds to me like someone's been watching too many Clint Eastwood and John Wayne flicks lately. That's excellent market research don't you think? What's next a comment that they'll pry SCO's IP "from my cold dead hands"?
In the early 80s my parents shelled out about AUD6000 on an Apple IIe. That was a lot of money back then. I was an 8 year old child and my parents still aren't computer literate.
The sales person talked them into not buying a Mac, and of course talked up Apple as being the best. In those days you could walk into your local department store and buy software for your Apple. Soon after however Apple decided that they'd only distribute software through their resellers. I was not a software pirate - back then I didn't know how. What this move did was restrict me to a very small set of software. That together with early misadventures with programming - mouse poop in an Apple II floppy drive caused it to eat even write protected disks and therefore ate my first grand attempt at game programming including my backups - literally put me off computing for years.
Needless to say Apple is not my favourite company. That's despite some years of use of Apple Macs in high school. My only recent experience with Apple is an eMac that died at work and having to deal with Apple support. They were okay but not brilliant.
Conclusion: Apple can go to buggery. Their restrictive licensing, distribution etc. (which hasn't changed) certainly hasn't won me over. If other people want to use their eye-candy filled CRAP, pirated or not, let them. I'll just stay away from this arrogant pack off asses and wait for them to die a slow cruel death. Fortunately I have x86 as an alternative, and I don't even want to emulate their rubbish. Its my grudge and I can hold it if I want to.
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If you think the money they make from suing people covers the costs of thier operations you are probably too naive to walk outside without an escort.
Oh shit. I gotta get to work and I don't have an escort.
The MPAA organizes the Rating System, and the RIAA awards whether an album goes Gold or Platinum. They also do a lot of lobbying.
And to fund this they sue people...
The above have nothing to do with providing a service. They are only furthering their own interests. If RIAA and the equivalent organisations world wide label certain albums as gold or platinum, they become more desireable to people who in turn buy more. Film classification is also about having a marketable product for people who have younger children (and avoiding getting sued themselves.
MPAA is Motion Picture Association of America, has nothing to do with music, I believe.
They don't have much to do with movies either. Just with suing people.
Sorry I mean buy takeout. I might well want to use a public phone to order takeout, but it doesn't need to be a vending machine.
Phone booths are for making phone calls. I don't want to download mp3s, read my email, or order takeout from my public phone. For starters I'd like to be able to make calls. With mobiles so prevalent public phone boths are being scrapped and falling into disrepair everywhere. There aren't many places in my local area I can even make a public phone call from a booth anymore.
.com bomb thinking all over again. "I know. Lets put in lots of infrastructure for a small return and wonder why the share price doesn't continue to skyrocket while our losses mount."
What advantage does public phone mp3 offer over at home internet access? If you're on the road there are Internet cafes everywhere already - many of them with 24 hr acces - and provided they'll let you hook into their computer you're all set.
I'd be more excited about wireless broadband downloads on a small mp3 player like the ipod. All you'd need is the wireless modem built in, plus a simple interface to have a music store in your pocket. THAT would be more worthwhile.
Phone booth mp3 downloads are old
Its the $1000 worth of hardware that you have to buy for a good system - THAT is the problem. Not the fact that you buy 4 bits of software these days and it costs more than the hardware. What a steaming crock of smelly shit.
4 Words. Steve...loves...to...bullshit! yeahhhhhh!!!! yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! Who said you could sit down.
Go dance somewhere else monkey boy.
...you're going to have the scars to proove it?
Has netcraft confirmed it?
I can't tell, my BSD system just died.
And in this case BSD would stand for bullshit detector?
That sounds like scientist doublespeak for "You're all imbred" :-)
Every time I see an article about Xandros, I can't help but think of Zathras from Season 1 of Babylon 5.
...or are you just glad to see me?
Like any tool having multiple desktops can be abused. If you want to watch a DVD on one screen then yes it'll detract from your ability to focus on the task at hand. However I run 2 screens both at home and at work. I find 2 screens useful if you want to:
1) Debug an application, especially GUI (without generating events get in the way using alt-tab)
2) Compare documents (especially spreadsheets)
3) Run 2 separate processes one of which only needs the occassional glance (eg. monitor a software load process you expect to succeed while reading email or browsing the web)
4) View something full screen but still have toolbars etc displayed (as in picture editing)
5) Watch to make sure that what you're doing won't kill your CD/DVD burn
When I don't need to do these things, I turn off one display. Its much better than having 2 computers your desk even with a KVM (though I still sometimes do that at home if I'm doing anything that truely ties up one machine).
As amazing as Hubble has been, I fail to see how dumping huge sums of money into keeping it going is worth it if we can dump similar sums of money into earth-based technology with better results.
Going above the atmosphere gives you things no Earth based technique will give you.
For a start you get to see the full spectrum - not just the part the Earth's atmosphere doesn't obscure.
Secondly no amount of correction will compensate for atmospheric disturbances in the opaque part of the spectrum as well as getting above it, and out of the atmosphere. Adaptive optics is an excellent technology which should certainly be used and improved, but it simply isn't going to magically make it like the atmosphere isn't there.
Thirdly you're not going to gain the same engineering knowledge and experience staying Earth bound.
Here's an analogy with transport. What you're saying is the equivalent of saying "aircraft are too hard to build and too expensive. Using existing water and land based transport we can transport anything almost anywhere so lets never advance our aircraft building skills".
IF the nerds who care about ogg only shared files in ogg format then you can bet your ass 90% of your friends would care.
You want to increase the popularity of ogg? Then stop sharing MP3s, it will happen overnight.
That WAS true to some extent when it was hard to take a CD and convert to MP3. If "nerds who care" only shared in Ogg, their friends would call them nerds and move on to source their music from musical non-nerds who can stumble their way to installing and running Audiograbber (or even simpler software), and from the net. They would then see their nerd friends as UNHELPFUL social misfits instead of just a social misfits. The nerds would lose out.
I love it when people say they can see into the future. I can't even tell you if I'll have a viable job in 5 years, and things today are certainly not what I thought they'd be 5 years ago.
I love the claim about having the biological body of a 40 year old at 56. Reminds me of anti-aging creams they sell stupid women for hundreds of dollars a jar.
I'd rather be shit on by a bird than have my house hit by a Satellite. We're talking several order of magnitudes times the damage/impact on someone's life. I mean how big would the bird have to be to do the same amount of damage?? Godzilla vs The Mutant Chicken!
You gotta love /. comment moderation. Someone obviously likes Apple a bit too much, because what I said certainly wasn't pointless.
I run Windows XP on a 384 meg/450mhz K6-III, a 192 meg/400mhz pentium III, and a 80meg/133mhz pentium. All three machines run it with good responsiveness.
Well bravo to you!
If all you're doing is using MS Office fair enough. But which of these machines would you use to:
1) Burn a DVD.
2) Edit a picture with the latest version of Photoshop?
3) Do software development on.
4) Encode MP3s on.
5) Print a large document.
Last time I looked these were all tasks that fairly non-technical users would might want to do. I guarantee you won't be running Longhorn on your current machines.
Sammy
How wrong you are. Any -true- geek would be touting the benefits of inline assembly over c++.
OOOOOhhhhhh you youngster's make me so mad. Back in my day we had punch cards, and we liked it! You don't know how easy you got it.
This is an excellent way for you to tezch your children to do things on the sly, get them involved in software piracy (war3z d00d!) and get them breaking the law as well as disobeying you.
At the end of the day where are they going to play the games anyway? At home or at a friend's house. If the child is young enough you have control over that and if the child is old enough for goodness sake teach them to think for themselves and stop sending out the message that its okay for 25 year old to have the same level of maturity as 12 year olds a generation or two ago.
I do need to qualify this. I am not a parent at present, and do not know how good a parent I'll make if I ever become one.
Pah. Are you saying that running the latest version of Windows (Whatever Longhorn/Aero/Avalon become) something that no one cares about? Some of it will be GPU intensive but I suspect a lot of it will also be CPU intensive. Minimum requirements for developers are can be found at:
v fa q/
http://msdn.microsoft.com/Longhorn/Support/lhde
It's still too early to determine the final hardware requirements. You can run the developer preview on a typical machine from the past two years, although it's a better experience on newer, higher end systems.
Ed Kaim, Microsoft, February 10, 2004 #
Here are the requirements that MSDN subscribers received with the PDC Longhorn.
End User Desktop Minimum System Requirements. Pentium III 800 MHz or equivalent. 256 MB RAM. Graphics: GPU: Dx7 support. Display: Minimum resolution of 1024x768, at 32 bits per pixel. VRAM: 32MB at minimum resolution.
As Mike Brannigan says--these aren't set for the final product--these are just minimums for the [pre]-Alpha release.
Already needing an 800MHz processor just to run the OS. Likely to be upped. Yes a lot of this is for ridiculous eyecandy. Yes we could probably still be using 66MHz processors and do much the same things we do today, but software developers have become reliant on the fact that the hardware becomes more capable every year. In 10 years you won't be talking about 3.8GHz being too much. Think of the memory and processing power used on the Apollo Lunar missions. Your typical desktop calculator is more advanced.
Also things have always progressed in small stepts when it comes to CPU performance. 3.0 to 3.8 is about 26%. We've had similar jumps before. 133 to 166 MHz is about 25%.
Whoooo. Take a deep breath. You can't seriously be holding a grudge from the early 80s! I mean, I know they're formative years--I still miss Leisure Suit Larry--but seriously, it's time to let go.
Of course I can. Why not? This company did me significant damage and contributed to putting me off computing for years. What's more my most recent experiences with them indicate they've learnt very little or nothing since the early 80's. The only Apple product I'm even tempted to buy is the iPod, and even that's a spectacularly retarded product. (Where the fuck's the radio?). I wouldn't touch their iBook/iMac/eMac/Thanks for the marketing hype Mac. Apple can sod off and die.
Asking the price of the Linux Kernel is pointless.
What exactly would you be buying?
The right to make it proprietary? (Sell it or a derivative for a lot of money) That'd be worth a lot to a few of companies - who wouldn't sell it they'd just keep it locked up and continue selling their own product?
The right to use it? Value there would be $0 thanks. You already have that for free unless you want to modify in a way that doesn't comply with the GPL.
The right to sell it. People already do that - oh sorry correction my mistake sell support for it.
The question is pointless because you can't un-GPL it once its been released under GPL...which is the point of that license.
I think the question being asked here is what would it cost to develop something similar? The answer is bucketloads. But why would you want to? How many freaking times does UNIX need to be redeveloped. Go create a different OS.
Sounds to me like someone's been watching too many Clint Eastwood and John Wayne flicks lately. That's excellent market research don't you think? What's next a comment that they'll pry SCO's IP "from my cold dead hands"?
a a! !!!
Yeaeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa
Want to talk about thievery?
In the early 80s my parents shelled out about AUD6000 on an Apple IIe. That was a lot of money back then. I was an 8 year old child and my parents still aren't computer literate.
The sales person talked them into not buying a Mac, and of course talked up Apple as being the best. In those days you could walk into your local department store and buy software for your Apple. Soon after however Apple decided that they'd only distribute software through their resellers. I was not a software pirate - back then I didn't know how. What this move did was restrict me to a very small set of software. That together with early misadventures with programming - mouse poop in an Apple II floppy drive caused it to eat even write protected disks and therefore ate my first grand attempt at game programming including my backups - literally put me off computing for years.
Needless to say Apple is not my favourite company. That's despite some years of use of Apple Macs in high school. My only recent experience with Apple is an eMac that died at work and having to deal with Apple support. They were okay but not brilliant.
Conclusion: Apple can go to buggery. Their restrictive licensing, distribution etc. (which hasn't changed) certainly hasn't won me over. If other people want to use their eye-candy filled CRAP, pirated or not, let them. I'll just stay away from this arrogant pack off asses and wait for them to die a slow cruel death. Fortunately I have x86 as an alternative, and I don't even want to emulate their rubbish. Its my grudge and I can hold it if I want to.