They've had several generations to normalize to the fact that they live somewhere where there are no 'freedoms' to speak of. I get the impression that many of them, presented with 'freedom', wouldn't even know what to do with themselves. Their country is run by thugs and is rife with corruption, from the lowliest beat-cop all the way up the food chain to Putin. I'd imagine the last thing the average Russian citizen wants to do is attract attention to themselves.
There's no point in responding to the AC jerk so you get the response instead.
If all anyone has to offer is base insults and no factual refutation of anything I wrote, then it's pretty clear you have nothing of value to add to the conversation and just shouldn't bother. Everything I said is based on well-known facts and news stories in numbers high enough that it'd take quite some time for me to source them all just for the sake of a bunch of strangers on the Internet. You don't like what I'm saying? You don't believe me? Go disprove me with FACTS and keep your insults to yourself. More likely is that people like the two of you are just so deeply in denial about the facts of our modern life that you just can't accept it.
That fine and dandy, but as I just said elsewhere: Unless you can trust the entire chain of custody of the aforementioned paper ballots, from end-to-end, it's useless. If someone wants to destroy, alter, or replace ballots, then it's useless.
Paper ballots are secure only if you can trust the entire chain of custody of the aforementioned paper ballots, from end-to-end. If someone wants to destroy them, or alter them, or replace them entirely, then they're useless.
What I want to know is, were the hacks at Defcon done in such a way that they left no traces of having been hacked? If yes then the November election could have been subverted in such a way and we'd never know.
Friend, they already do violate our privacy. There are cameras at every intersection, and everywhere else (ATM cameras, security cameras, and so on). Your 'smartphone' has a highly sensitive GPS receiver in it, which (despite any settings of yours to the contrary) is on all the time, can pinpoint your location to within a few meters even deep inside a multi-floor building, and reports that position on demand (or all the time for all anyone knows). Even without GPS your position can be determined by triangulating from cell towers. Any WiFi that your phone connects to, even briefly, can be used to geolocate you. Unless you pay cash for everything walking around, your purchases not only pinpoint your location, they add to a list of your purchasing habits, from which your behavior can be predicted. If you live in a big urban city like New York and take a cab everywhere, your movements are tracked that way, too. There are microphones all over the place that are part of a gunshot detection/location system, and for all we know those are also used to listen in on people in public; leveraging your smartphone to listen in on you is a trivial task, too. Having free WiFi all over a city like New York, that enables anyone to have Internet access for free wherever they go in the city is just the final nail in the coffin of your privacy; you're now 'connected' everywhere you go, watched, and listened to in redundant ways. Not carrying a smartphone and paying for everything with cash isn't even enough and may just flag you as a potential criminal/extremist/terrorist/person of interest. Using the Internet at all these days, even with a VPN, still leaks all sorts of information about you, especially if you're so dumb as to use so-called 'social media', which EXISTS to collect information about you, ostensibly to sell you things, but also so governments can produce a profile/dossier of you -- just in case you're a terrorist. Using Tor is better and worse than a VPN because there are things you just can't do using Tor, and I'm certain it's like that on purpose. The only way you can have any modicum of privacy anymore is to live in the middle of nowhere, have a landline phone and no smartphone, stay off the Internet, and pay for everything you can with CASH, never use credit or plastic or even checks if you can help it, and stay away from urban centers as much as possible. Sadly doing all the above, in the current socio-political climate, will flag you to law enforcement as a potential criminal, extremist, or out-and-out terrorist, and you might well be specifically scrutinized because of it. If you're married and have kids, it's basically impossible to be 'off the grid' unless you're all on on the same page somehow -- and kids especially won't put up with being isolated and ostracized because their dad is a 'nutjob' who won't let then use Facebook or have a smartphone. Basically, until the current socio-political climate changes, you have damned little privacy of any kind, except in your own home, with the blinds shut and no electronics that could listen in on you -- and it's highly unlikely that any time in the near future that any of this is going to change. First people have to WANT it to change. Good luck with that.
Considering how much investment and interest the wireless industry as a whole (handset manufacturers, wireless connectivity providers, etc) has in the game, I wouldn't at all be surprised if there was behind-the-scenes action to kill a project like this, and any others like it that might come along.
'Proper procedure' can be forced, faked, fabricatred, and otherwise corrupted. All it takes is a conspiracy of law enforcement and symptathetic judges who corrupt themselves by being political -- and it would be far from the first time something like that happenened.
Add to the list of things to worry about the Trump 'administration' damaging this country with: The creation of a 'secret police'. Or, at least, giving the current 'secret police' more lattitude to do as they wish.
A group of businesses or nations that collude to limit competition within an industry or market.
A combination of political groups (notably parties) for common action.
A written letter of defiance or challenge.
An official agreement concerning the exchange of prisoners.
(nautical) A ship used to negotiate with an enemy in time of war, and to exchange prisoners.
..as opposed to the word I'm suggesting should have been used:
cabal (plural cabals)
A usually secret exclusive organization of individuals gathered for a political purpose.
A secret plot.
An identifiable group within the tradition of Discordianism.
Please, Slashdot editors, could you be bothered to check these things before you post them? Thanks.
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In any event: I for one am not at all surprised to hear this, and in fact I was expecting it. Furthermore I expect that in the days to come we're going to find that every automaker on the planet has been doing something similar. Sadly, the days of the internal combustion engine need to come to an end, if we're going to clean things up, and I, for one, having spent decades maintaining them, would be glad of something much simpler, cleaner, and easier to maintain, like a fully electric vehicle. If only I could get a plug-in electric version of my Tacoma..
I dunno. I sure hope not. Between Uber and all it's problems, and Lyft wanting a world where individuals don't own their own vehicles anymore, I keep getting more and more convinced all these 'ride sharing services' are just more cancer.
Having solved all their legal problems both within their company proper and with all their drivers (no more assaults, no more sex discrimination, hazing, corruption, and so on), Uber has plenty of time and resources to focus on new features.
There's always going to be some degree of sharing (that they want to demonize as 'piracy') no matter how draconian they get about it, and beyond a certain point it makes no sense to squeeze any tighter. Keep in mind that these people are of a mindset such that they get all anxious at the thought that someone might pay a rental fee for ONE copy of a movie, yet invite TEN or TWENTY people over to watch it, and they're not paying.
..fleeing the sinking ship that is the Trump 'administration'. Any bets on how many of them decide to take a 'vacation' to a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the U.S.? xD
Keep drinking the kool-aid, Citizen. Before you know it you'll be strapped into a 'self driving car' with NO CONTROLS for you to use at all, and if it fucks up and kills you your last moments will be in utter terror because you will have NO WAY TO STOP IT. Enjoy your horrifying death. Meanwhile at least I have a CHANCE to save myself when I'm in control of the vehicle.
We must be careful to be sure we do not fall into the trap illustrated in the cautionary tale of GATTACA. Just because some dianostic test shows that you have a predisposition towards a medical or psychological condition does not mean that you will suffer from that condition.
I'm sure doctors can use this as a supplementary diagnostic aid, just another datapoint, but you'd be imcompetent if you used this as your sole diagnostic method.
It's called PR. If you write your PR release like a news article, some media companies will publish the PR under their own byline with a simple copy-and-paste and no further editing.
..which is how people think so-called 'AI' is actual 'AI', and that by extension so-called 'self driving cars' are actually going to be a good thing instead of a disaster.
The technology is being rushed to market at a breakneck pace, and it's not anywhere NEAR ready to be let loose on public streets. it's going to be a disaster and there will be deaths because of it, and it could all be avoided if people could just manage to not get swept away by the media hype and the empty promises made by people who do NOT understand the technology in the first place.
Yeah sure that's what we need, jackbooted thugs who are ostensibly 'law enforcement' who can just grab you and with no cause or reason rifle through your wallet/purse and belongings and take your valuables. What the hell is the U.S. turning into? That sounds like the kind of crap the Federales in Mexico will pull on you!
If an animal kills a human being, that animal is put to death.
If so-called 'self driving cars' kill even one human being due to a flaw, then the technology should not be allowed on public roads.
Furthermore, just as with regards to aircraft mechanics: The engineers responsible for the faulty code and/or inadequate safety testing should be held criminally responsible for any human deaths.
How much do you want to bet me that for the forseeable future, anyone dumb enough to buy a so-called 'self driving car', that gets in an accident while in so-called 'self driving' mode, will get stonewalled by the manufacturers legal department, who will fight as hard as they can to make it all look like the owners fault?
This technology is being rushed to market and people are going to pay the price for that with accidents, injuries, and their lives.
Hey, I've got a great idea! Let's have the fox guard the henhouse!
LOLOLOL, no.
The only possible way you could convince me this is even remotely a good idea, would be if it's under the 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer' philosophy. But even then I'd still say "HELL, NO!".
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They've had several generations to normalize to the fact that they live somewhere where there are no 'freedoms' to speak of. I get the impression that many of them, presented with 'freedom', wouldn't even know what to do with themselves. Their country is run by thugs and is rife with corruption, from the lowliest beat-cop all the way up the food chain to Putin. I'd imagine the last thing the average Russian citizen wants to do is attract attention to themselves.
There's no point in responding to the AC jerk so you get the response instead.
If all anyone has to offer is base insults and no factual refutation of anything I wrote, then it's pretty clear you have nothing of value to add to the conversation and just shouldn't bother. Everything I said is based on well-known facts and news stories in numbers high enough that it'd take quite some time for me to source them all just for the sake of a bunch of strangers on the Internet. You don't like what I'm saying? You don't believe me? Go disprove me with FACTS and keep your insults to yourself. More likely is that people like the two of you are just so deeply in denial about the facts of our modern life that you just can't accept it.
That fine and dandy, but as I just said elsewhere: Unless you can trust the entire chain of custody of the aforementioned paper ballots, from end-to-end, it's useless. If someone wants to destroy, alter, or replace ballots, then it's useless.
Paper ballots are secure only if you can trust the entire chain of custody of the aforementioned paper ballots, from end-to-end. If someone wants to destroy them, or alter them, or replace them entirely, then they're useless.
What I want to know is, were the hacks at Defcon done in such a way that they left no traces of having been hacked? If yes then the November election could have been subverted in such a way and we'd never know.
Friend, they already do violate our privacy. There are cameras at every intersection, and everywhere else (ATM cameras, security cameras, and so on). Your 'smartphone' has a highly sensitive GPS receiver in it, which (despite any settings of yours to the contrary) is on all the time, can pinpoint your location to within a few meters even deep inside a multi-floor building, and reports that position on demand (or all the time for all anyone knows). Even without GPS your position can be determined by triangulating from cell towers. Any WiFi that your phone connects to, even briefly, can be used to geolocate you. Unless you pay cash for everything walking around, your purchases not only pinpoint your location, they add to a list of your purchasing habits, from which your behavior can be predicted. If you live in a big urban city like New York and take a cab everywhere, your movements are tracked that way, too. There are microphones all over the place that are part of a gunshot detection/location system, and for all we know those are also used to listen in on people in public; leveraging your smartphone to listen in on you is a trivial task, too. Having free WiFi all over a city like New York, that enables anyone to have Internet access for free wherever they go in the city is just the final nail in the coffin of your privacy; you're now 'connected' everywhere you go, watched, and listened to in redundant ways. Not carrying a smartphone and paying for everything with cash isn't even enough and may just flag you as a potential criminal/extremist/terrorist/person of interest. Using the Internet at all these days, even with a VPN, still leaks all sorts of information about you, especially if you're so dumb as to use so-called 'social media', which EXISTS to collect information about you, ostensibly to sell you things, but also so governments can produce a profile/dossier of you -- just in case you're a terrorist. Using Tor is better and worse than a VPN because there are things you just can't do using Tor, and I'm certain it's like that on purpose. The only way you can have any modicum of privacy anymore is to live in the middle of nowhere, have a landline phone and no smartphone, stay off the Internet, and pay for everything you can with CASH, never use credit or plastic or even checks if you can help it, and stay away from urban centers as much as possible. Sadly doing all the above, in the current socio-political climate, will flag you to law enforcement as a potential criminal, extremist, or out-and-out terrorist, and you might well be specifically scrutinized because of it. If you're married and have kids, it's basically impossible to be 'off the grid' unless you're all on on the same page somehow -- and kids especially won't put up with being isolated and ostracized because their dad is a 'nutjob' who won't let then use Facebook or have a smartphone. Basically, until the current socio-political climate changes, you have damned little privacy of any kind, except in your own home, with the blinds shut and no electronics that could listen in on you -- and it's highly unlikely that any time in the near future that any of this is going to change. First people have to WANT it to change. Good luck with that.
Considering how much investment and interest the wireless industry as a whole (handset manufacturers, wireless connectivity providers, etc) has in the game, I wouldn't at all be surprised if there was behind-the-scenes action to kill a project like this, and any others like it that might come along.
'Proper procedure' can be forced, faked, fabricatred, and otherwise corrupted. All it takes is a conspiracy of law enforcement and symptathetic judges who corrupt themselves by being political -- and it would be far from the first time something like that happenened.
Add to the list of things to worry about the Trump 'administration' damaging this country with: The creation of a 'secret police'. Or, at least, giving the current 'secret police' more lattitude to do as they wish.
cartel (plural cartels)
A group of businesses or nations that collude to limit competition within an industry or market.
A combination of political groups (notably parties) for common action.
A written letter of defiance or challenge.
An official agreement concerning the exchange of prisoners.
(nautical) A ship used to negotiate with an enemy in time of war, and to exchange prisoners.
cabal (plural cabals)
A usually secret exclusive organization of individuals gathered for a political purpose.
A secret plot.
An identifiable group within the tradition of Discordianism.
Please, Slashdot editors, could you be bothered to check these things before you post them? Thanks.
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In any event: I for one am not at all surprised to hear this, and in fact I was expecting it. Furthermore I expect that in the days to come we're going to find that every automaker on the planet has been doing something similar. Sadly, the days of the internal combustion engine need to come to an end, if we're going to clean things up, and I, for one, having spent decades maintaining them, would be glad of something much simpler, cleaner, and easier to maintain, like a fully electric vehicle. If only I could get a plug-in electric version of my Tacoma..
I dunno. I sure hope not. Between Uber and all it's problems, and Lyft wanting a world where individuals don't own their own vehicles anymore, I keep getting more and more convinced all these 'ride sharing services' are just more cancer.
Having solved all their legal problems both within their company proper and with all their drivers (no more assaults, no more sex discrimination, hazing, corruption, and so on), Uber has plenty of time and resources to focus on new features.
..NOT!
There's always going to be some degree of sharing (that they want to demonize as 'piracy') no matter how draconian they get about it, and beyond a certain point it makes no sense to squeeze any tighter. Keep in mind that these people are of a mindset such that they get all anxious at the thought that someone might pay a rental fee for ONE copy of a movie, yet invite TEN or TWENTY people over to watch it, and they're not paying.
..fleeing the sinking ship that is the Trump 'administration'. Any bets on how many of them decide to take a 'vacation' to a country that doesn't have an extradition treaty with the U.S.? xD
Keep drinking the kool-aid, Citizen. Before you know it you'll be strapped into a 'self driving car' with NO CONTROLS for you to use at all, and if it fucks up and kills you your last moments will be in utter terror because you will have NO WAY TO STOP IT. Enjoy your horrifying death. Meanwhile at least I have a CHANCE to save myself when I'm in control of the vehicle.
We must be careful to be sure we do not fall into the trap illustrated in the cautionary tale of GATTACA . Just because some dianostic test shows that you have a predisposition towards a medical or psychological condition does not mean that you will suffer from that condition.
I'm sure doctors can use this as a supplementary diagnostic aid, just another datapoint, but you'd be imcompetent if you used this as your sole diagnostic method.
It's called PR. If you write your PR release like a news article, some media companies will publish the PR under their own byline with a simple copy-and-paste and no further editing.
..which is how people think so-called 'AI' is actual 'AI', and that by extension so-called 'self driving cars' are actually going to be a good thing instead of a disaster.
I'm beginning to think that Microsoft is posting 'facts' like the people and governments in the subject line post 'facts'.
Yeah no kidding! They dig much more and Manhattan will just float away on the tide!
The technology is being rushed to market at a breakneck pace, and it's not anywhere NEAR ready to be let loose on public streets. it's going to be a disaster and there will be deaths because of it, and it could all be avoided if people could just manage to not get swept away by the media hype and the empty promises made by people who do NOT understand the technology in the first place.
Yeah sure that's what we need, jackbooted thugs who are ostensibly 'law enforcement' who can just grab you and with no cause or reason rifle through your wallet/purse and belongings and take your valuables. What the hell is the U.S. turning into? That sounds like the kind of crap the Federales in Mexico will pull on you!
If an animal kills a human being, that animal is put to death.
If so-called 'self driving cars' kill even one human being due to a flaw, then the technology should not be allowed on public roads.
Furthermore, just as with regards to aircraft mechanics: The engineers responsible for the faulty code and/or inadequate safety testing should be held criminally responsible for any human deaths.
How much do you want to bet me that for the forseeable future, anyone dumb enough to buy a so-called 'self driving car', that gets in an accident while in so-called 'self driving' mode, will get stonewalled by the manufacturers legal department, who will fight as hard as they can to make it all look like the owners fault?
This technology is being rushed to market and people are going to pay the price for that with accidents, injuries, and their lives.
Hey, I've got a great idea! Let's have the fox guard the henhouse!
LOLOLOL, no.
The only possible way you could convince me this is even remotely a good idea, would be if it's under the 'keep your friends close and your enemies closer' philosophy. But even then I'd still say "HELL, NO!".
I was mocking their math. ;-)
I'm surprised that here in the U.S. people haven't been doing the same since January.