I'll say the same thing I said to the AC above you but in a nicer way: I believe things like this to be an overall campaign of destabilizing Western countries which can be nothing but beneficial to governments like Russia and China, both of which have expansionist ambitions. It doesn't matter what data they did or did not get, what does matter is that they're creating chaos and distrust and helping create divisiveness. Just here in the U.S. we've got half the country looking to '''stick it''' to the other half because they do not like nor trust them based on their political leanings, we've got an extremist President who, probably unwittingly, is helping create more divisiveness, and now we've got most of the Government shut down for a historically record number of days, and both major political parties at odds with each other, stalemated, which means nothing of value is getting done. PUT ASIDE whatever your partisan political beliefs and leanings are for a moment or two and look at the bigger picture: our Nation, at the moment, can't get out of it's own way. If I was the leader of another country and I had an overall plan of political and eventually military conquest of neighboring countries, and NATO countries are what are standing in my way, I'd be breaking out the good booze and passing the bottle around to celebrate things going so well for me, seeing both the U.S. and the UK in disarray and chaos from their own internal strife that *I* and my forces created within them.
Now let's talk for a moment about the UK, since I mention them: do you really think the Brexit affair started entirely internal to the UK, with no outside influences? Think again, U.S. Intelligence reports have said othewise, just like MI6 has also said. The UK is in a similar state of chaos and disarray as the U.S. because of the whole Brexit fiasco; they also are too distracted by it and can't get out of their own way.
Here's another example I can come up with off the top of my head: Catalonia and Spain. Do you really think it's just coincidence that the tensions between Catalonia and Spain over Catalonias' desire to be independent and self-governing just suddenly flared up into the conflicts they've seen over there? Note again that Spain is a NATO member country, just like the U.S. and the UK. Note also I'm not saying that Russia and/or China (although I'd think Russia really) created that conflict, but the potential and the tensions were already there for a long time now and all it would take is a nudge in the right direction to cause the tensions to explode into a conflict.
How about France? Sure, the French are a passionate people and protest is in their blood, but I would not at all be surprised if these 'Yellow Vest' protests, which are now becoming violent, are being amplified via -- you guessed it -- Social Media, and I wouldn't at all be surprised that if they are, you could trace key parts of that back to non-French sources, or foreign nationals within French borders.
I'd have to go dive deep into news stories from varied sources, but I wouldn't at all be surprised, either, if I looked at incidents in all key NATO countries right now, that I'd find Social Media fanning the flames of those conflicts -- and that if you traced them to their sources, you'd find them to either be from other countries, or from foreign nationals in-country.
Russia would love nothing better than to have NATO break up; it's the only thing that's prevented Russian expansionism since before the wall fell. Vladimir Putin is former KGB and from his background and pattern of behavior it's clear he would love nothing better than his historical legacy to be creating Soviet Union 2.0. Destabilizing the European Union and destroying (or at least weakening) NATO will be at the top of his To-Do List. Furthermore the Russia/Crimea/Ukraine situation is both on his To-Do List as well as him testing the waters with NATO, the EU, and the U.N. to see how much
Is there some point to your comment or are you just a 'bot posting random Star Wars quotes? Seriously you're almost as annoying to me at the moment as the spammer who keeps posting entire walls of text about I don't know what.
No DRM so easy to make copies.
You don't have to pay for '''streaming''', or buy a DRM-laden '''digital only''' copy that someone can yank back with no notice.
Will last decades if taken care of properly.
Cassette decks are mature technology, inexpensive, and reliable if properly maintained.
Easy to make your own '''mix tape''' just like in the old days, without any technical knowledge or software to learn. Be happy they're not just pirating it, they're actually paying for legal copies.
On the one hand: somewhat happy to hear that somebody is thinking far enough ahead to wonder if some of these far-fetched ideas could possibly be real.
On the other hand: regretting once again that I have this totally inconvenient thing called a 'conscience' and can't just swindle the government out of millions of dollars on what amounts to TV science fantasy writing. Just one multi-million dollar contract and I wouldn't have to work again a day in my life.
I think at this point, anyone who doesn't take an overall look at Russian operations all over the world, and the general ambitions of Vladimir Putin, who doesn't see that this is all a form of guerrilla warfare isn't paying close enough attention, is in denial, or is one of their extraterritorial operatives whitewashing the whole thing. What we're seeing are just the early stages of the overall agenda and gameplan.
If possible trajectory- and logistics-wise, either throw together a probe that can reach it and get us more data on the object, or direct an existing probe at it if possible, or since we have several space-based telescopes of very high magnification and resolution, point one of them at the damned thing and get us more data on it. All this hand-waving discussion amounts to click-bait so far as I'm concerned.
Their arses are covered for a recession by golden handshakes/parachutes... A cyber security breach may lead them to being dismissed without their full payment.
Yep. As per 'Capitalism run wild' they only care about themselves. If there's another recession they don't care, they've personally got money to burn, they'll be fine, and they don't give a damn about the rest of us plebians who are not part of The Rich.
Nah, dude, they'll just feed malware directly into the goddamned thing in your head so your brain gets programmed to buy, buy, buy whatever the hell it is they're pushing.
Great idea, dude. Then Facebook, Google, Twitter, $THE_COPS, $YOUR_GOVERNMENT, and whoever the ever-loving fuck else there is, can just hoover up everything in your brain directly instead of tricking or beating it out of you. Also imagine the utter unmitigated joy of having a ransomware attack on hardware that resides inside your goddamned skull, or Microsoft feeding ads directly into your brain while you're trying to fucking SLEEP, and so on, and so on, and so on.
Seriously, Elon Musk, I'm not at all convinced you think about it for more than 2 seconds before you open your mouth and let some shit just fly out of it like this. WORST IDEA *EVER*, ELON.
Memo to cellphone and tablet manufacturers: Why not just cut to the chase and make a laptop computer you can make telephone calls on? That's the direction you all seem to be going anyway, so just do it already. </sarcasm>
The disinformation campaign
That might work assuming they don't have some algorithms that detect things like that and toss out the false data in their private cache.
Most Facebook users have the attention span of a ferret on bad biker meth, can't be bothered to read (let alone understand) EULAs and Privacy Agreements, and likely doesn't even know what the 'Ad Preferences' page is let alone what's on it. Facebook depends on this ignorance to preserve their salable data stream.
Friend, here's what's more likely than not to happen when you do that: it'll appear to clear them out, so far as the user-facing page shows, but Facebook won't 'throw away' that data, they'll just keep it in secret, where the user can't see it anymore. Remember: Facebook does not throw any data away, ever, because it's all salable merchandise. The only way to possibly win this game is to not play in the first place (i.e. never have a Facebook account to start with). You can delete you Facebook account and never go back and 10 years from now their data will be so stale that it'll be irrelevant anymore, but they'll never delete it.
No just add it to the ever-growing heap.
I'm pretty sure if they can force him to submit his tax returns and other financials we'll find all sorts of dirty dealings, that's why he won't release them.
Personally I think there should be legislation passed or a Constitutional amendment made (or modified) that requires candidates to submit all that sort of information, among other things. If we had a more rigorous vetting process we might not have had a Trump problem in the first place.
You're not far off the mark. There is a faction among The Rich in this country that are basically a form of religious zealot that is not only looking forward to the End Of The World, but fervently believes that hastening it is a Good Thing. No need to develop new, cleaner energy sources when the world is going to end soon, right? And no need to take care of the Earth when you're going to be taken 'home' to 'heaven' soon, too, right? No, I'm not kidding.
I said more or less the same thing recently, and got shouted down for it. Here we have a couple PhDs saying the same thing; you all going to shout them down, too?
They're right and people need to come around to that truth. We need to stop using fossil fuels, use more renewables to tide us over, design safer nuclear reactors (YES, IT'S POSSIBLE, DAMNIT), devise better and safer methods to deal with spent fuel (YES, IT'S POSSIBLE, DAMNIT), and in the meantime keep up the R&D for practical FUSION REACTORS. Then, maybe, JUST MAYBE, we can save ourselves from extinction.
Slashdot Mirror
Yes, but you have to have some smarts to rip a CD and then make a Mix CD. Tapes are easier.
I'll say the same thing I said to the AC above you but in a nicer way: I believe things like this to be an overall campaign of destabilizing Western countries which can be nothing but beneficial to governments like Russia and China, both of which have expansionist ambitions. It doesn't matter what data they did or did not get, what does matter is that they're creating chaos and distrust and helping create divisiveness. Just here in the U.S. we've got half the country looking to '''stick it''' to the other half because they do not like nor trust them based on their political leanings, we've got an extremist President who, probably unwittingly, is helping create more divisiveness, and now we've got most of the Government shut down for a historically record number of days, and both major political parties at odds with each other, stalemated, which means nothing of value is getting done.
PUT ASIDE whatever your partisan political beliefs and leanings are for a moment or two and look at the bigger picture: our Nation, at the moment, can't get out of it's own way. If I was the leader of another country and I had an overall plan of political and eventually military conquest of neighboring countries, and NATO countries are what are standing in my way, I'd be breaking out the good booze and passing the bottle around to celebrate things going so well for me, seeing both the U.S. and the UK in disarray and chaos from their own internal strife that *I* and my forces created within them.
Now let's talk for a moment about the UK, since I mention them: do you really think the Brexit affair started entirely internal to the UK, with no outside influences? Think again, U.S. Intelligence reports have said othewise, just like MI6 has also said. The UK is in a similar state of chaos and disarray as the U.S. because of the whole Brexit fiasco; they also are too distracted by it and can't get out of their own way.
Here's another example I can come up with off the top of my head: Catalonia and Spain. Do you really think it's just coincidence that the tensions between Catalonia and Spain over Catalonias' desire to be independent and self-governing just suddenly flared up into the conflicts they've seen over there? Note again that Spain is a NATO member country, just like the U.S. and the UK. Note also I'm not saying that Russia and/or China (although I'd think Russia really) created that conflict, but the potential and the tensions were already there for a long time now and all it would take is a nudge in the right direction to cause the tensions to explode into a conflict.
How about France? Sure, the French are a passionate people and protest is in their blood, but I would not at all be surprised if these 'Yellow Vest' protests, which are now becoming violent, are being amplified via -- you guessed it -- Social Media, and I wouldn't at all be surprised that if they are, you could trace key parts of that back to non-French sources, or foreign nationals within French borders.
I'd have to go dive deep into news stories from varied sources, but I wouldn't at all be surprised, either, if I looked at incidents in all key NATO countries right now, that I'd find Social Media fanning the flames of those conflicts -- and that if you traced them to their sources, you'd find them to either be from other countries, or from foreign nationals in-country.
Russia would love nothing better than to have NATO break up; it's the only thing that's prevented Russian expansionism since before the wall fell. Vladimir Putin is former KGB and from his background and pattern of behavior it's clear he would love nothing better than his historical legacy to be creating Soviet Union 2.0. Destabilizing the European Union and destroying (or at least weakening) NATO will be at the top of his To-Do List. Furthermore the Russia/Crimea/Ukraine situation is both on his To-Do List as well as him testing the waters with NATO, the EU, and the U.N. to see how much
You are dumb. Do you know what '''destabilizing a country''' means, or is that too many big words for you?
Is there some point to your comment or are you just a 'bot posting random Star Wars quotes? Seriously you're almost as annoying to me at the moment as the spammer who keeps posting entire walls of text about I don't know what.
Just shut it all down permanently, delete everything, and prevent anything like it from existing ever again, it is CANCEROUS.
No DRM so easy to make copies.
You don't have to pay for '''streaming''', or buy a DRM-laden '''digital only''' copy that someone can yank back with no notice.
Will last decades if taken care of properly.
Cassette decks are mature technology, inexpensive, and reliable if properly maintained.
Easy to make your own '''mix tape''' just like in the old days, without any technical knowledge or software to learn.
Be happy they're not just pirating it, they're actually paying for legal copies.
I see no real downside to this.
On the one hand: somewhat happy to hear that somebody is thinking far enough ahead to wonder if some of these far-fetched ideas could possibly be real.
On the other hand: regretting once again that I have this totally inconvenient thing called a 'conscience' and can't just swindle the government out of millions of dollars on what amounts to TV science fantasy writing. Just one multi-million dollar contract and I wouldn't have to work again a day in my life.
I think at this point, anyone who doesn't take an overall look at Russian operations all over the world, and the general ambitions of Vladimir Putin, who doesn't see that this is all a form of guerrilla warfare isn't paying close enough attention, is in denial, or is one of their extraterritorial operatives whitewashing the whole thing. What we're seeing are just the early stages of the overall agenda and gameplan.
If possible trajectory- and logistics-wise, either throw together a probe that can reach it and get us more data on the object, or direct an existing probe at it if possible, or since we have several space-based telescopes of very high magnification and resolution, point one of them at the damned thing and get us more data on it. All this hand-waving discussion amounts to click-bait so far as I'm concerned.
Sometimes things go wrong -- and you can't walk them back. Therefore, be more fucking careful!
Their arses are covered for a recession by golden handshakes/parachutes... A cyber security breach may lead them to being dismissed without their full payment.
Yep. As per 'Capitalism run wild' they only care about themselves. If there's another recession they don't care, they've personally got money to burn, they'll be fine, and they don't give a damn about the rest of us plebians who are not part of The Rich.
Naw, man, it'd just make people be stupid, but faster. :-(
Nah, dude, they'll just feed malware directly into the goddamned thing in your head so your brain gets programmed to buy, buy, buy whatever the hell it is they're pushing.
Great idea, dude. Then Facebook, Google, Twitter, $THE_COPS, $YOUR_GOVERNMENT, and whoever the ever-loving fuck else there is, can just hoover up everything in your brain directly instead of tricking or beating it out of you. Also imagine the utter unmitigated joy of having a ransomware attack on hardware that resides inside your goddamned skull, or Microsoft feeding ads directly into your brain while you're trying to fucking SLEEP, and so on, and so on, and so on.
Seriously, Elon Musk, I'm not at all convinced you think about it for more than 2 seconds before you open your mouth and let some shit just fly out of it like this. WORST IDEA *EVER*, ELON.
Memo to cellphone and tablet manufacturers: Why not just cut to the chase and make a laptop computer you can make telephone calls on? That's the direction you all seem to be going anyway, so just do it already. </sarcasm>
Oh, please, people, stop, you're killing me..
NoScript
Check.
The disinformation campaign
That might work assuming they don't have some algorithms that detect things like that and toss out the false data in their private cache.
Most Facebook users have the attention span of a ferret on bad biker meth, can't be bothered to read (let alone understand) EULAs and Privacy Agreements, and likely doesn't even know what the 'Ad Preferences' page is let alone what's on it. Facebook depends on this ignorance to preserve their salable data stream.
Friend, here's what's more likely than not to happen when you do that: it'll appear to clear them out, so far as the user-facing page shows, but Facebook won't 'throw away' that data, they'll just keep it in secret, where the user can't see it anymore. Remember: Facebook does not throw any data away, ever, because it's all salable merchandise. The only way to possibly win this game is to not play in the first place (i.e. never have a Facebook account to start with). You can delete you Facebook account and never go back and 10 years from now their data will be so stale that it'll be irrelevant anymore, but they'll never delete it.
For fuck's sake, people..
No just add it to the ever-growing heap.
I'm pretty sure if they can force him to submit his tax returns and other financials we'll find all sorts of dirty dealings, that's why he won't release them.
Personally I think there should be legislation passed or a Constitutional amendment made (or modified) that requires candidates to submit all that sort of information, among other things. If we had a more rigorous vetting process we might not have had a Trump problem in the first place.
You're not far off the mark. There is a faction among The Rich in this country that are basically a form of religious zealot that is not only looking forward to the End Of The World, but fervently believes that hastening it is a Good Thing. No need to develop new, cleaner energy sources when the world is going to end soon, right? And no need to take care of the Earth when you're going to be taken 'home' to 'heaven' soon, too, right? No, I'm not kidding.
+1 Plausible (if true).
Certainly fits the profile.
I said more or less the same thing recently, and got shouted down for it. Here we have a couple PhDs saying the same thing; you all going to shout them down, too?
They're right and people need to come around to that truth. We need to stop using fossil fuels, use more renewables to tide us over, design safer nuclear reactors (YES, IT'S POSSIBLE, DAMNIT), devise better and safer methods to deal with spent fuel (YES, IT'S POSSIBLE, DAMNIT), and in the meantime keep up the R&D for practical FUSION REACTORS. Then, maybe, JUST MAYBE, we can save ourselves from extinction.