Are they going to be targeting the IA-64 architecture, or both the 32-bit and 64-bit architectures? Do we really even know if 64-bit is the platform of the future, or is it still up in the air if/that/ switch is necessary for desktop apps? Is it that hard to target/both/?
yeah!! Those frivolous lawsuits make me sick! I cant believe anyone would get bent out of shape over a 1 ton hunk of metal landing on their house.... by design.
I love windows because in the Windows 98 years, when it was/painfully/ obvious what a better product Linux was, you're pockets were so deep you were able to market that crap to ultimate success. It showed me how important FULL DISCLOSURE (having INFORMED CONSUMERS) is to the success and stability of a free-market system, and how powerful you've become by breaking that rule and taking advantage of the market's technical ignorance.
In addition he had the user suspended for a week without pay for violating the terms of service for our network.
and we lived happily ever after.
There lies the key to the conflict with Regular People and IT folks. You love it when the users you are servicing get screwed. And you really hate it when someone takes initiative and actually gets concerned about their network.
Both of those traits hinder your ability to do your job, ie, service the Money Making employees by keeping their network in peak usability. While I'm on the subject, that does not mean by whatever obscure metric you use to measure network performance. It means seeing how the actual people using the network are getting along with it, and changing the network to meet their needs. You are in a service position. The janitor at a company plays an important role. But we dont cancel work Wednesday at 10am so they can wax the floor.
And no one gets suspended for a week for suggesting that the rug gets vaccuumed more often. Get off your horse. Your job is to service those very people you revile. Is jealousy or insecurity the motivation behind your IT attitude? Who knows. But stop whining about people suggesting you, the technical janitor, clean something up. If their suggestion doesnt make sense, laugh at them. But suspended for a week? Good thing that story isnt true, and its just your IT wet dream.
I agree with you 100%. I just thought the way he said "Wrong!" was very rude to the original poster, very passive aggressive, and, to me at least, hints at an ocean of bottled up emotions. But I dont think its that serious, thats why I made the lightweight comment "go outside".
Now, it is totally ridiculous that Patrick doesn't let anyone know what happened, and its really great that you point out the open-source nature of his sins. The whole point of open source is collaboration, our info here helps you there, and your info there helps us here. We build on each other. But Patrick instead "leached" medical advice from all his dedicated fans, and gave back nothing. 10 years from now if I hear someone describing similar symptoms, I'll have no more knowledge than I had when I read Patrick's. Oh well.
Lets give him time, I'm sure its not his intention and he just wants to chill out and feel good for a bit.
There are probably about 1000 terrorists out there. We've wiped like 50,000 people off the face of the earth in the last year, and the only thing these idiots in america/start/ to care about is our own soldier death toll. I fear what may happen if you totally eliminate an american death toll. For the record, bigot, our bombs dont only blow up when they detect "murderer" or "terrorist". If they did, then the white house wouldn't be standing. ZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone up there mentioned something that got me thinking. SCO keeps talking about linux source that is very "similar" to their copyrighted works. Now, what if that is true. Say some algorithm, some way of solving a problem that is common between the two operating systems, is repeated. Forget which one came first. Now, that algorithm may have just been floating around in the 80s and 90s, some clever guy through it in, wow look at this fast way to schedule such and such, whatever. He writes it into My Little OS. Someone else sees it, sticks it in linux, in sunos, in SCO's shitty unix. SCO's source there is a copyrighted work. But that algorithm was never Patented, so reimplementing it on linux isnt even a legal issue, even if it WAS written on SCO first, which it probably wasnt, because SCOs a bunch of jerks. Isnt that how this boils down? Concepts like intellectual property, their/legal/ framework is patents, right? If there arent any patents for the specific algorithms that SCO finds "similar" between the two operating systems, what exactly is their argument?
some of the concepts presented include virtual training (which many universities are now offering) and virtual meetings with individuals all around the world
Wow, this guy is a true clairvoyant. I dont know where we would be if people like this man werent brilliant enough to come up with such UNUSUAL and CREATIVE ideas such as "Virtual Meetings".
>Outsourcing hurts the folks that get outsourced, but the rest of us win.
Don't be so sure. Theres a number of reasons why outsourcing is a "no-win" situation. First, to hyperbolize, what happens when all technical jobs leave America? Now Engineering and Manufacturing will be history, and we will have an entire nation of Managers. India will be developing the products that Asia makes and it'll all be sold throughout the world and America will be on the top of the payment food chain, right? Dont you think other countries, perhaps the ones with all the technical know-how, and all the manufacturing know-how, will decide they'd be better off doing the management in-house, and keep all that top-level payment for themselves? I dont think an economy based on managing the output of foreign countries is either safe or enough to support America. But there is a much bigger concern here. I'm not sure why people always fail to ask this Very Important question:
"Why is it so much cheaper over there?"
Do they have some mystical pond that ideas flow from, into the heads of their engineers? Do Asian people have some evolutionary trait that makes them better equiped to manufacture goods? Does sending an idea across the Pacific, and shipping the result back, somehow CONSERVE economic resources? Of course not. Whats missing in these countries is all of the labor laws that we all agree, politicians included, are IMPORTANT to protect the interests of workers. Think those engineering hotboxes in India have sprinkler systems? Think those engineers maintain the quality of life that we do? NO! "Oh but over their a dollar goes a lot farther." No, over there, the average quality of life is ridiculously poor, so ANYTHINGS better. But dont think for an instant that an Indian engineer has it as good as an American one. They only have it good relative to the rest of their country. THATS why its cheaper.
Dont you see the hypocricy in an America thats chock full of fair labor laws but farms out everything, for the sake of saving a buck, to places that DONT have labor laws?
Do you really want a product thats 10% cheaper if it means the engineers making it have it 10% harder? I dont...
Well, thats true, they are executing "NOPS", but does executing "NOP" use much of the processor? I dont think you need the floating point unit to execute a NOP. I dont think you are swapping out registers to execute a NOP. In most cases, are they even accessing the external bus? I'd hope not. So equating a NOP to any other instruction is not a good idea when you are talking about processor life span, because you arent doing much with the rest of the chip. Its just sitting there, at some state, with virtually no current running through it.
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Are they going to be targeting the IA-64 architecture, or both the 32-bit and 64-bit architectures? Do we really even know if 64-bit is the platform of the future, or is it still up in the air if /that/ switch is necessary for desktop apps? Is it that hard to target /both/?
yeah!! Those frivolous lawsuits make me sick! I cant believe anyone would get bent out of shape over a 1 ton hunk of metal landing on their house.... by design.
...I'd rather Touch Paul Belini.
/painfully/ obvious what a better product Linux was, you're pockets were so deep you were able to market that crap to ultimate success. It showed me how important FULL DISCLOSURE (having INFORMED CONSUMERS) is to the success and stability of a free-market system, and how powerful you've become by breaking that rule and taking advantage of the market's technical ignorance.
I love windows because in the Windows 98 years, when it was
Kudos to you, you treasonous prick!
hahahahhaa
ok i suppose i was just bitching. I'm just sick of my BOFH.
i made it myself
you people are so gullible.
In addition he had the user suspended for a week without pay for violating the terms of service for our network.
and we lived happily ever after.
There lies the key to the conflict with Regular People and IT folks. You love it when the users you are servicing get screwed. And you really hate it when someone takes initiative and actually gets concerned about their network.
Both of those traits hinder your ability to do your job, ie, service the Money Making employees by keeping their network in peak usability. While I'm on the subject, that does not mean by whatever obscure metric you use to measure network performance. It means seeing how the actual people using the network are getting along with it, and changing the network to meet their needs. You are in a service position. The janitor at a company plays an important role. But we dont cancel work Wednesday at 10am so they can wax the floor.
And no one gets suspended for a week for suggesting that the rug gets vaccuumed more often. Get off your horse. Your job is to service those very people you revile. Is jealousy or insecurity the motivation behind your IT attitude? Who knows. But stop whining about people suggesting you, the technical janitor, clean something up. If their suggestion doesnt make sense, laugh at them. But suspended for a week? Good thing that story isnt true, and its just your IT wet dream.
NPR.org makes _tons_ of audio content available online.
From Grand Master Flash to Donald Knuth...
I knew these cans of lead paint would find a use someday!!!!!
I agree with you 100%. I just thought the way he said "Wrong!" was very rude to the original poster, very passive aggressive, and, to me at least, hints at an ocean of bottled up emotions. But I dont think its that serious, thats why I made the lightweight comment "go outside".
Now, it is totally ridiculous that Patrick doesn't let anyone know what happened, and its really great that you point out the open-source nature of his sins. The whole point of open source is collaboration, our info here helps you there, and your info there helps us here. We build on each other. But Patrick instead "leached" medical advice from all his dedicated fans, and gave back nothing. 10 years from now if I hear someone describing similar symptoms, I'll have no more knowledge than I had when I read Patrick's. Oh well.
Lets give him time, I'm sure its not his intention and he just wants to chill out and feel good for a bit.
> You're wrong.
Damn kid did that feel good? I can feel your aggression from here. Go outside.
So does anyone actually know what happened? Pat, you rule. Lets hope your ordeal just makes slackware more popular!
"The focus on multiple cores arises from Moore's Law, which dictates that the number of transistors on a chip doubles every two years."
yeah its because of moore's law. you are such a frigging idiot.
There are probably about 1000 terrorists out there. We've wiped like 50,000 people off the face of the earth in the last year, and the only thing these idiots in america /start/ to care about is our own soldier death toll. I fear what may happen if you totally eliminate an american death toll.
For the record, bigot, our bombs dont only blow up when they detect "murderer" or "terrorist". If they did, then the white house wouldn't be standing. ZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In your opinion, what are the key differences between the UNIX and Windows platforms from both a software developer's and an end-user's point of view?
... of your plans to spy on your babysitter "...uhh.. babysitting"
So what did Bush say on Meet the Press?
Anyone have a transcript?
Someone up there mentioned something that got me thinking. SCO keeps talking about linux source that is very "similar" to their copyrighted works. Now, what if that is true. Say some algorithm, some way of solving a problem that is common between the two operating systems, is repeated. Forget which one came first. Now, that algorithm may have just been floating around in the 80s and 90s, some clever guy through it in, wow look at this fast way to schedule such and such, whatever. He writes it into My Little OS. Someone else sees it, sticks it in linux, in sunos, in SCO's shitty unix. SCO's source there is a copyrighted work. But that algorithm was never Patented, so reimplementing it on linux isnt even a legal issue, even if it WAS written on SCO first, which it probably wasnt, because SCOs a bunch of jerks. Isnt that how this boils down? Concepts like intellectual property, their /legal/ framework is patents, right? If there arent any patents for the specific algorithms that SCO finds "similar" between the two operating systems, what exactly is their argument?
some of the concepts presented include virtual training (which many universities are now offering) and virtual meetings with individuals all around the world
Wow, this guy is a true clairvoyant. I dont know where we would be if people like this man werent brilliant enough to come up with such UNUSUAL and CREATIVE ideas such as "Virtual Meetings".
So 'saterdays' are tough? I can't imagine why you'd have a problem with crossword puzzles. :-D
>Outsourcing hurts the folks that get outsourced, but the rest of us win.
Don't be so sure. Theres a number of reasons why outsourcing is a "no-win" situation. First, to hyperbolize, what happens when all technical jobs leave America? Now Engineering and Manufacturing will be history, and we will have an entire nation of Managers. India will be developing the products that Asia makes and it'll all be sold throughout the world and America will be on the top of the payment food chain, right? Dont you think other countries, perhaps the ones with all the technical know-how, and all the manufacturing know-how, will decide they'd be better off doing the management in-house, and keep all that top-level payment for themselves? I dont think an economy based on managing the output of foreign countries is either safe or enough to support America.
But there is a much bigger concern here. I'm not sure why people always fail to ask this Very Important question:
"Why is it so much cheaper over there?"
Do they have some mystical pond that ideas flow from, into the heads of their engineers? Do Asian people have some evolutionary trait that makes them better equiped to manufacture goods?
Does sending an idea across the Pacific, and shipping the result back, somehow CONSERVE economic resources?
Of course not. Whats missing in these countries is all of the labor laws that we all agree, politicians included, are IMPORTANT to protect the interests of workers. Think those engineering hotboxes in India have sprinkler systems? Think those engineers maintain the quality of life that we do? NO! "Oh but over their a dollar goes a lot farther." No, over there, the average quality of life is ridiculously poor, so ANYTHINGS better. But dont think for an instant that an Indian engineer has it as good as an American one. They only have it good relative to the rest of their country. THATS why its cheaper.
Dont you see the hypocricy in an America thats chock full of fair labor laws but farms out everything, for the sake of saving a buck, to places that DONT have labor laws?
Do you really want a product thats 10% cheaper if it means the engineers making it have it 10% harder? I dont...
Well, I dont think the poster really mentioned needing 60Hz.
Thinking like an engineer, I'd assume in many environments something as low as 5 Hz would suffice. Even less!
Well, thats true, they are executing "NOPS", but does executing "NOP" use much of the processor? I dont think you need the floating point unit to execute a NOP. I dont think you are swapping out registers to execute a NOP. In most cases, are they even accessing the external bus? I'd hope not. So equating a NOP to any other instruction is not a good idea when you are talking about processor life span, because you arent doing much with the rest of the chip. Its just sitting there, at some state, with virtually no current running through it.
Keep it simple, stupid.
I wonder what the computer scientist to computer user ratio is. Too high.
Get it? Old people? Exoskeletons? Is this thing on?
>Perhaps the U.S. Government should consider funding such a program over here?"
Yeah 5 year olds can hold a gun right?