The sad part is that if you took out the greek letters, you might have a few more people willing to look and perhaps go "hey! This isn't any different than the math we did back in high school!".
Stick a phi or an alpha or an omega in there though, and suddenly it's "smart people math".
Not much to understand. Read the rest of my post a couple times.
Neither of us think it's right, and that's fine. We agree on that point, that it's a bad thing for kids to have porn, or beer, or cigarettes, or cocaine, or whatever.
The only difference is that I think that it's our business, and you think it's theirs.
When the state legislates things like this though, they're doing someone elses job. Should bedtime be legislated? Nutritious lunches?
Not only that, but it's ineffective overkill; Throw some poor kid making minimum wage in jail for a year and charge him 2 years salary for selling a game (or a cigarette) to a child?
Finally, it is ineffective. If you want to debate that, drive by a high school sometime. It's not the faculty leaving the thousands of cigarette butts on the ground.
So when in doubt, err on the side of freedom. The world is already dangerous, and will continue to be regardless of laws put in place. Force children to learn that, force parents to teach that, force society to accept that, with all the good consequences and bad, and you'll have safer children.
Only in my opinion, of course. I can't prove any of this.:)
Interesting post. Note now that I'm not the grandparent poster.
Not after people like you are involved.
This extrapolation goes far beyond the scope of the 6 sentences, to the point where it's like saying "g=9.81m/s^2 at most places on earth, so Centauri will someday crash into Earth". Be more careful. You do that a LOT in this post.
As oppossed to the fake people dying in games like Grand Theft Auto. Oh, but THAT'S ok, huh?
Interesting binary worldview, and yet another extrapolation. g=9.81 on Earth, so it must on Mercury, or Jupiter as well. Sadly, any tradesperson will tell you that the real world isn't so digital. I once killed 999 people in an Unreal Tournament instajib deathmatch who all looked very human, but nobody cried that day.
No, you don't. Just because you hang out with witless adults is no excuse to subject kids to porn.
I don't recall there a law DEMANDING kids buy porn being on the block. Also, here is that extrapolation again.
Only to tinfoil hat wearing idiots...like yourself.
Networks show live footage of war on CNN and publishers splash frame captures of murder videos on the front page of newspapers but won't show a nipple for fear of riots. Saying - even thinking - something is true doesn't make it so.
I truly hope no child is ever saddled with the burden of having you as a parent.
I fear that some child has already been corrupted by the bizzare digital worldview derived through wishful thinking and unscientific extrapolation rather than logical fact you've displayed here. I can only hope this post isn't indicitive of your true personality, but rather, just a knee-jerk reaction.
BTW, until you're putting your home address and phone number in your sig, you're just as anonymous as an AC. Posting without a name is irritating for various reasons, but if they're cowards, then we all are.
I was going to seriously disagree with you, because there IS a problem with letting a 14 year old buy porn in my own opinion.
Then I realized it's none of the states business.
I think it's wrong that some people are so stupid that they can't point out their own country on a map; would I be right in wanting a law to have them euthanized? Barred from serving in jobs where you have to deal with the public? Educated at gunpoint?
Freedom is a nasty business, but it's far preferable to having someone else make your decisions for you, whether it's you as a kid, you as a parent, or you as a retailer.
the interesting thing about the responses I've reciveved is that none of them seem to notice the precident I mention -- there were lots of DOS programs too, and technically windows still supports it, but as new releases move on, we're going to see less and less in terms of actual support, just like DOS programs under XP will at best run horribly, and at worst be hit with crippling problems, like my buddy who can't use his keyboard in dos programs under XP.
Not really a fair comparison; Linux is an OS,.net is an API.
To be honest though, I'm not looking forward to the future. It looks like Microsoft is going to be using brute force to get developers to use their.net platform for just about everything,
I have a feeling that this may be the last generation of computers for a while that feels truly speedy.:/
What of things I've read saying that.net will be the default api in windows longhorn?
As a former DOS programmer, I can tell you that when Microsoft wants to get rid of an API, they're quite good at it. If they want to do it, win32 will be dead before the end of the decade, just like dos.
Being attacked by the parent you're replying to is actually funny, because he doesn't seem to have taken a look at the dates involved. I've been so busy I haven't even been able to look at the code for my projects or update my site since march. Look at all the free time I have! Wheeee!
If a site that hasn't been updated in 6 months and a year old rant written while I was drunk are all you've got, I can honestly say my life isn't so bad. Busy so I can't return to my old projects or spend time writing journal entries nobody will read, but not so bad.
Anyway, two responses in this thread is more than enough for me. I've got semiconductors homework to do.
That and the fact that the passage of time appears to mean nothing to you. Yes, I wrote powerusrs gaming(even though it hasn't been updated in over six months), worked on two RPGs written in a long dead programming language, and wrote all the journal entries in the time that I've been in college. Yep. Never done anything else, I've lived my entire life in college.
I think we should create some sort of organization for people to whom the phrase "delta-t" means nothing.
Damn right! You have to like a real mans man sport like beating the crap out of people!
Why, oh why, aren't there more nerds with an appreciation for both intellectual pursuits, and the fine art of kicking the crap out of someone? WHYYYYY?!
What's so special about students that people forget that they're shelling out big money for a university that works? People don't write code for microsoft, why should they write code for their inept college IT dept?
What the hell sort of pussy college are YOU going to?
All I can see is a soul crushing workload, at least the same amount of homework as you have class; probably more if you're not 100% effective, and saying to your buddies "sorry, I can't go out drinking tonight, I have to finish these EE questions".
Not really. The set it too high and the 'proles' won't buy it.
Do the words "I need that to live" mean nothing to you? With breast cancer medicines or allergy medication, deciding that the price isn't right just isn't an option, because without it...you die.
You're getting lower prices not by force, but by a walmart level of "sell for this price (just above marginal costs), or you don't get our market.
Nobody has presented any proof that this is the case. The PMPB doesn't pull prices out of their asses, they use a median of prices in industrialized nations (the USA included) to set the price. That's hardly walmart style marginalized cost.
Since Canada doesn't allow profit margins for life saving drugs[...] Nobody said that. Considering you're paying the top prices for drugs in the entire world, I don't think you are really qualified to say that. The pmpb doesn't arbitrarily set the price at "ok, we'll buy it at 10% greater than cost to you", they look at the rest of the industrialized world.
Another thing to remember is that all presecription drugs sold in canada are done with an extra 30+% on their margins right off the bat because it's illegal to advertise prescription drugs in canada(many drug companies spend more on marketing than anything else).
This happened with the flu vaccine in America.
The flu vaccine isn't patented, so it's not covered by the PMPB. In fact, the fact that you're worried that there's only two manufacturers left makes this situation completely different.
The free market is not kind, guarenteed, or personal. What it is is efficient.
Only when it benefits companies who can set whatever price they want for the tiny uninsured proles, apparantly. Nobody is putting a gun to the drug companies heads and telling them to sell in Canada or Europe(as you point out), but the lot of you are acting like we're commiting some sort of sin because we're getting lower prices by force(you can say that you don't think it's immoral, but "I wish the drug companies would stand up to Europe and Canada" betrays your true position). They're just being told "Here's the price we're going to buy at. No higher.".
The posters in this thread, yourself included, have some seriously warped, hypocritical values. Companies are free to set whatever price they want and should, but it's horrible and wrong, if not completely immoral, for these organizations controlling prices to prevent citizens from getting fleeced so they can afford the drugs they need to live. I mention again that it's things like breast cancer medicine and allergy medicine which have the greatest price drops -- Viagra and Prozac are more expensive in Canada than they are in the US.
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Six asses is yesterdays technology, fool!
Today we can breed mans best freind who ignores him...with eight asses. This is very exciting, cutting edge technology. Highly experimental.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm late for my NAMBLA meeting(North American Marlin Brando Lookalike Association).
The sad part is that if you took out the greek letters, you might have a few more people willing to look and perhaps go "hey! This isn't any different than the math we did back in high school!".
Stick a phi or an alpha or an omega in there though, and suddenly it's "smart people math".
w = 1 + 1
"OMG! I can't do that! It's a small omega!"
In China, the effects of no standard stair size is always positive.
You're right. Let's go with it.
Listen, you BASTARD. dihydrogen monoxide KILLED my mother and RAPED my father!
Not much to understand. Read the rest of my post a couple times.
:)
Neither of us think it's right, and that's fine. We agree on that point, that it's a bad thing for kids to have porn, or beer, or cigarettes, or cocaine, or whatever.
The only difference is that I think that it's our business, and you think it's theirs.
When the state legislates things like this though, they're doing someone elses job. Should bedtime be legislated? Nutritious lunches?
Not only that, but it's ineffective overkill; Throw some poor kid making minimum wage in jail for a year and charge him 2 years salary for selling a game (or a cigarette) to a child?
Finally, it is ineffective. If you want to debate that, drive by a high school sometime. It's not the faculty leaving the thousands of cigarette butts on the ground.
So when in doubt, err on the side of freedom. The world is already dangerous, and will continue to be regardless of laws put in place. Force children to learn that, force parents to teach that, force society to accept that, with all the good consequences and bad, and you'll have safer children.
Only in my opinion, of course. I can't prove any of this.
Interesting post. Note now that I'm not the grandparent poster.
Not after people like you are involved.
This extrapolation goes far beyond the scope of the 6 sentences, to the point where it's like saying "g=9.81m/s^2 at most places on earth, so Centauri will someday crash into Earth". Be more careful. You do that a LOT in this post.
As oppossed to the fake people dying in games like Grand Theft Auto. Oh, but THAT'S ok, huh?
Interesting binary worldview, and yet another extrapolation. g=9.81 on Earth, so it must on Mercury, or Jupiter as well. Sadly, any tradesperson will tell you that the real world isn't so digital. I once killed 999 people in an Unreal Tournament instajib deathmatch who all looked very human, but nobody cried that day.
No, you don't. Just because you hang out with witless adults is no excuse to subject kids to porn.
I don't recall there a law DEMANDING kids buy porn being on the block. Also, here is that extrapolation again.
Only to tinfoil hat wearing idiots...like yourself.
Networks show live footage of war on CNN and publishers splash frame captures of murder videos on the front page of newspapers but won't show a nipple for fear of riots. Saying - even thinking - something is true doesn't make it so.
I truly hope no child is ever saddled with the burden of having you as a parent.
I fear that some child has already been corrupted by the bizzare digital worldview derived through wishful thinking and unscientific extrapolation rather than logical fact you've displayed here. I can only hope this post isn't indicitive of your true personality, but rather, just a knee-jerk reaction.
BTW, until you're putting your home address and phone number in your sig, you're just as anonymous as an AC. Posting without a name is irritating for various reasons, but if they're cowards, then we all are.
I was going to seriously disagree with you, because there IS a problem with letting a 14 year old buy porn in my own opinion.
Then I realized it's none of the states business.
I think it's wrong that some people are so stupid that they can't point out their own country on a map; would I be right in wanting a law to have them euthanized? Barred from serving in jobs where you have to deal with the public? Educated at gunpoint?
Freedom is a nasty business, but it's far preferable to having someone else make your decisions for you, whether it's you as a kid, you as a parent, or you as a retailer.
the interesting thing about the responses I've reciveved is that none of them seem to notice the precident I mention -- there were lots of DOS programs too, and technically windows still supports it, but as new releases move on, we're going to see less and less in terms of actual support, just like DOS programs under XP will at best run horribly, and at worst be hit with crippling problems, like my buddy who can't use his keyboard in dos programs under XP.
Not really a fair comparison; Linux is an OS, .net is an API.
.net platform for just about everything,
:/
To be honest though, I'm not looking forward to the future. It looks like Microsoft is going to be using brute force to get developers to use their
I have a feeling that this may be the last generation of computers for a while that feels truly speedy.
What of things I've read saying that .net will be the default api in windows longhorn?
As a former DOS programmer, I can tell you that when Microsoft wants to get rid of an API, they're quite good at it. If they want to do it, win32 will be dead before the end of the decade, just like dos.
Have you seen the benchmarks for the latest and greatest compared to the 3.06Ghz processors available 24 months ago?
Adding transistors doesn't mean a linear speed increase either, not by a long shot.
I'm sure that it's not so bad once you get past the first level.
It's just that it's really hard to get past the first level without switching games!
Being attacked by the parent you're replying to is actually funny, because he doesn't seem to have taken a look at the dates involved. I've been so busy I haven't even been able to look at the code for my projects or update my site since march. Look at all the free time I have! Wheeee!
If a site that hasn't been updated in 6 months and a year old rant written while I was drunk are all you've got, I can honestly say my life isn't so bad. Busy so I can't return to my old projects or spend time writing journal entries nobody will read, but not so bad.
Anyway, two responses in this thread is more than enough for me. I've got semiconductors homework to do.
You're a troll, right?
The irony is killing me.
That and the fact that the passage of time appears to mean nothing to you. Yes, I wrote powerusrs gaming(even though it hasn't been updated in over six months), worked on two RPGs written in a long dead programming language, and wrote all the journal entries in the time that I've been in college. Yep. Never done anything else, I've lived my entire life in college.
I think we should create some sort of organization for people to whom the phrase "delta-t" means nothing.
Damn right! You have to like a real mans man sport like beating the crap out of people!
Why, oh why, aren't there more nerds with an appreciation for both intellectual pursuits, and the fine art of kicking the crap out of someone? WHYYYYY?!
That's IT's job, not the customers.
What's so special about students that people forget that they're shelling out big money for a university that works? People don't write code for microsoft, why should they write code for their inept college IT dept?
The odds that you haven't actually encountered problems, compared to the chance that you've encountered problems but don't know it yet, are slim.
What the hell sort of pussy college are YOU going to?
All I can see is a soul crushing workload, at least the same amount of homework as you have class; probably more if you're not 100% effective, and saying to your buddies "sorry, I can't go out drinking tonight, I have to finish these EE questions".
Rebellion? Who has the time?
I'm thinking that the writer may be talking about more important things than toys to play video games.
Pulling 5 Gs, there reaches a point where the seats just aren't designed to handle the stress! ;p
Not really. They're being asked to cut from a 3000 Calorie diet.
That's not going from "lots of food" to "no food", it's more like drinking a glass less of milk every day. They're not going to die.
realistically, a 2000 Calorie diet is perfectly healthy; they probably were eating too much to begin with.
American ingenuity is made from German immigrants.
Think: Wernher Von Braun et. al.
Oh, the irony.
Not really. The set it too high and the 'proles' won't buy it.
Do the words "I need that to live" mean nothing to you? With breast cancer medicines or allergy medication, deciding that the price isn't right just isn't an option, because without it...you die.
You're getting lower prices not by force, but by a walmart level of "sell for this price (just above marginal costs), or you don't get our market.
Nobody has presented any proof that this is the case. The PMPB doesn't pull prices out of their asses, they use a median of prices in industrialized nations (the USA included) to set the price. That's hardly walmart style marginalized cost.
Since Canada doesn't allow profit margins for life saving drugs[...]
Nobody said that. Considering you're paying the top prices for drugs in the entire world, I don't think you are really qualified to say that. The pmpb doesn't arbitrarily set the price at "ok, we'll buy it at 10% greater than cost to you", they look at the rest of the industrialized world.
Another thing to remember is that all presecription drugs sold in canada are done with an extra 30+% on their margins right off the bat because it's illegal to advertise prescription drugs in canada(many drug companies spend more on marketing than anything else).
This happened with the flu vaccine in America.
The flu vaccine isn't patented, so it's not covered by the PMPB. In fact, the fact that you're worried that there's only two manufacturers left makes this situation completely different.
The free market is not kind, guarenteed, or personal. What it is is efficient.
Only when it benefits companies who can set whatever price they want for the tiny uninsured proles, apparantly. Nobody is putting a gun to the drug companies heads and telling them to sell in Canada or Europe(as you point out), but the lot of you are acting like we're commiting some sort of sin because we're getting lower prices by force(you can say that you don't think it's immoral, but "I wish the drug companies would stand up to Europe and Canada" betrays your true position). They're just being told "Here's the price we're going to buy at. No higher.".
The posters in this thread, yourself included, have some seriously warped, hypocritical values. Companies are free to set whatever price they want and should, but it's horrible and wrong, if not completely immoral, for these organizations controlling prices to prevent citizens from getting fleeced so they can afford the drugs they need to live. I mention again that it's things like breast cancer medicine and allergy medicine which have the greatest price drops -- Viagra and Prozac are more expensive in Canada than they are in the US.