Thanks for the info. Is it really that easy to come up with unproveable situations in high level mathematics? If so, then I'm gunning for the Nobel Prize with my 3+5=Coconut hypothesis.
Pennsylvania still has the "Jonestown Flood Tax". A 18% excise tax on alcohol meant to raise funds for the flood that occured in 1889 or something like that.
18% sales tax on alcohol? No wonder why those people in Jonestown drank all that Kool-aid...
A fair point, but regardless of how many dollars are spent per student, what school district (or any other entity for that matter) passes up the opportunity to stump for more and more cash every year?
When that school budget in Libertyville comes up for a vote next year and they're crying for more money, I hope the voters remember that these are the same people who'll cry poverty for extra books and sports uniforms but suddenly have the resources to play internet police. Screw 'em.
try to find work or an education, with little food, little to no medical care, the constant threat of violence, an unstable government, while relying on the kindness of strangers to even have a stab at making a decent life for yourself?
Sound harsh? I'm a professional engineer. I own a corporation. If somehting bad happens due to my negligence in a design, I am still personally responisible, and can (1) lose my license to practice (2) lose my corporate authorization to do business (3) face financial penalties (4) be found guilty of various criminal offenses personally for acts done as a managing officer of the corporation. I only ask that Sony be held to the same standard.
Not to excuse Sony's sleezy actions and subsequent pat on the wrist, I think you're comparing apples to oranges. If you don't do your job as an engineer properly, people can die (structural collapses, vehicle malfunctions, etc etc). Sony's worst rootkit nightmare will waste lots of time and resources, but won't come close to inflicting the kind of harm that a misplaced decimal point would in a blueprint.
I guess that what really bothers me is that good Republicans who should really know better, individuals who have long complained about the growing powers of the federal government, should be more concerned about this.
Those arguments that were so prevalent during the Clinton era have grown deafeningly silent once the republican party took control. Sadly, I don't think those same people would care if the US became a fascist dictatorship, as long as it was their party in power.
May I ask you why you're doing the exact same crap they are?
Them : Remember September 11th. Loads of people died.. DIED! You : Remember September 11th. The people who DIED would be ashamed of this.
Whenever somebody pulls that "people died on 9/11, new world, blah blah" card, I like to make the point that it's a slap in the face to anybody in uniform to use the deaths of a few thousand to justify taking away the rights that many millions have sworn to protect and gave their lives for over the past 230 years.
TrueCrypt lets you mount the container as a filesystem, which is a convenient way to go. This sort of thing allows you to:
a) Deny that there is anything encrypted for which you have not proffered a key. "Oh yeah, show me what I have encrypted and I'll show you the key."
b) If that's not enough, proffer the false key that gives them the alternative access. "Ok, here you go. Let me know if you find anything incriminating. (tee hee)"
The problem I can see with "rubberhose" systems like this is that governments won't buy your line that you went through all the trouble of setting an encrypted volume or whatnot to protect lame things. I'm sure they would have no problem jailing or coercing the user until they gave up the key to something juicy.
Since you can't prove a negative, you'd better hope you last longer than they do.
There is nothing "illegal" about dis-obeying an illegal order. FUCK!!! Didn't we go through that sufficiently back at the Nurnberg Trials?
There is nothing "illegal" about telling someone that you were given an illegal order.
If the order / operation is ILLEGAL then refusing it or revealing it cannot be illegal.
If they find a scapegoat for a leak, I find it hard to believe that they'll give them a pat on the head and praise them for being so brave as to break their security clearances. Whistleblowers should fully expect to be hung out to dry, perhaps bide their time for some kind of pardon down the line.
Of course it isn't right, but I don't see a warm reception for those who leak, even for a greater good.
With this sort of political climate, the public has to rely on leaks from people inside to even know what's going on.
As is the trouble with anonymous sources, its difficult, if not impossible, to verify the information given. You're not going to get an offical to admit on the record or get a FOIA request confirming the fact in this lifetime. The environment of secrecy and plausible deniability has the express purpose of shrouding the truth, whatever it may be.
In fact, a covert network of "leaks" could keep the press going around in circles, giving out bogus and contradictory information and then becomes a handy tool to discredit the news outlets and reporters in question if they take the bait public.
The simple fact is that most people view their computers as fancy appliances. Hell, they even buy them at places like Best Buy and Circuit City that also sell appliances. They expect to turn it on, use it for its intended purpose of email and pornography, and thats that. They don't have any interest in learning a system, when it should be as simple as the other appliances in the house (yes, I know as well as anybody here that computers are complex machines not unlike cars, but lets look at it from the everyday Joe perspective).
Things like this make me think that the "internet appliances" like the i-opener died a premature death. A device that could surf the web, play music, work with cameras, and have the admin stuff be invisible to the user behind a clean interface could sell like gangbusters.
Around here it's an established rule that you're using those computers for research or educational surfing
It falls squarely in the realm of research if your paper is about cutting yourself after listening to Linkin Park or an in-depth analsys about how your bitch mom won't let you go to the mall.
However well-intentioned SOX is/was, if this trend continues, we don't get the SOX purported benefits, and we lose the economic benefits of these companies on US soil.
Working in an accounting environment, I see firsthand the enormous amount spent on Sox compliance. The OP's example only proves my assertion that the slimes that run the game will find new and novel ways to get their hands in the till.
The Ken Lays of the world didn't get the big bucks from playing by the rules.
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Thanks for the info. Is it really that easy to come up with unproveable situations in high level mathematics? If so, then I'm gunning for the Nobel Prize with my 3+5=Coconut hypothesis.
Pennsylvania still has the "Jonestown Flood Tax". A 18% excise tax on alcohol meant to raise funds for the flood that occured in 1889 or something like that.
18% sales tax on alcohol? No wonder why those people in Jonestown drank all that Kool-aid...
A fair point, but regardless of how many dollars are spent per student, what school district (or any other entity for that matter) passes up the opportunity to stump for more and more cash every year?
A great example of this is being able to cut a sphere in a certain way into an infinite amount of pieces, and reassemble it into a larger volume
Granted I was never strong in math, but I don't follow. How can the sum be greater than the whole that you started out with?
When that school budget in Libertyville comes up for a vote next year and they're crying for more money, I hope the voters remember that these are the same people who'll cry poverty for extra books and sports uniforms but suddenly have the resources to play internet police. Screw 'em.
Yahoo plus eBay vs Google = Zombo.
try to find work or an education, with little food, little to no medical care, the constant threat of violence, an unstable government, while relying on the kindness of strangers to even have a stab at making a decent life for yourself?
No thanks, I've already been to Detroit.
Sound harsh? I'm a professional engineer. I own a corporation. If somehting bad happens due to my negligence in a design, I am still personally responisible, and can (1) lose my license to practice (2) lose my corporate authorization to do business (3) face financial penalties (4) be found guilty of various criminal offenses personally for acts done as a managing officer of the corporation. I only ask that Sony be held to the same standard.
Not to excuse Sony's sleezy actions and subsequent pat on the wrist, I think you're comparing apples to oranges. If you don't do your job as an engineer properly, people can die (structural collapses, vehicle malfunctions, etc etc). Sony's worst rootkit nightmare will waste lots of time and resources, but won't come close to inflicting the kind of harm that a misplaced decimal point would in a blueprint.
I guess that what really bothers me is that good Republicans who should really know better, individuals who have long complained about the growing powers of the federal government, should be more concerned about this.
Those arguments that were so prevalent during the Clinton era have grown deafeningly silent once the republican party took control. Sadly, I don't think those same people would care if the US became a fascist dictatorship, as long as it was their party in power.
May I ask you why you're doing the exact same crap they are?
Them : Remember September 11th. Loads of people died.. DIED!
You : Remember September 11th. The people who DIED would be ashamed of this.
Whenever somebody pulls that "people died on 9/11, new world, blah blah" card, I like to make the point that it's a slap in the face to anybody in uniform to use the deaths of a few thousand to justify taking away the rights that many millions have sworn to protect and gave their lives for over the past 230 years.
Then the criminals will use other languages
Hey Senor Bob, Let's robbo el banko!
Sad... Cineralla could have done it couldn't it?
Nope, it turned into a pumpkin after midnight.
Doing research on a fruit, called mangosteen
Genetic engineering has gone too far this time. What kind of sicko crossbred a mango with Bruce Springsteen?
TrueCrypt lets you mount the container as a filesystem, which is a convenient way to go. This sort of thing allows you to:
a) Deny that there is anything encrypted for which you have not proffered a key. "Oh yeah, show me what I have encrypted and I'll show you the key."
b) If that's not enough, proffer the false key that gives them the alternative access. "Ok, here you go. Let me know if you find anything incriminating. (tee hee)"
The problem I can see with "rubberhose" systems like this is that governments won't buy your line that you went through all the trouble of setting an encrypted volume or whatnot to protect lame things. I'm sure they would have no problem jailing or coercing the user until they gave up the key to something juicy.
Since you can't prove a negative, you'd better hope you last longer than they do.
they are designed to hide bugs in the hardware/firmware,
I was always under the impression that the specs were closed to ward off copycatting from competitors.
Hey, you plagiarized my job description!
There is nothing "illegal" about dis-obeying an illegal order. FUCK!!! Didn't we go through that sufficiently back at the Nurnberg Trials?
There is nothing "illegal" about telling someone that you were given an illegal order.
If the order / operation is ILLEGAL then refusing it or revealing it cannot be illegal.
If they find a scapegoat for a leak, I find it hard to believe that they'll give them a pat on the head and praise them for being so brave as to break their security clearances. Whistleblowers should fully expect to be hung out to dry, perhaps bide their time for some kind of pardon down the line.
Of course it isn't right, but I don't see a warm reception for those who leak, even for a greater good.
With this sort of political climate, the public has to rely on leaks from people inside to even know what's going on.
As is the trouble with anonymous sources, its difficult, if not impossible, to verify the information given. You're not going to get an offical to admit on the record or get a FOIA request confirming the fact in this lifetime. The environment of secrecy and plausible deniability has the express purpose of shrouding the truth, whatever it may be.
In fact, a covert network of "leaks" could keep the press going around in circles, giving out bogus and contradictory information and then becomes a handy tool to discredit the news outlets and reporters in question if they take the bait public.
Since I know that this story is going to turn into flame-fest central
Damn right, this'll be better than the less filling/tastes great argument.
The simple fact is that most people view their computers as fancy appliances. Hell, they even buy them at places like Best Buy and Circuit City that also sell appliances. They expect to turn it on, use it for its intended purpose of email and pornography, and thats that. They don't have any interest in learning a system, when it should be as simple as the other appliances in the house (yes, I know as well as anybody here that computers are complex machines not unlike cars, but lets look at it from the everyday Joe perspective).
Things like this make me think that the "internet appliances" like the i-opener died a premature death. A device that could surf the web, play music, work with cameras, and have the admin stuff be invisible to the user behind a clean interface could sell like gangbusters.
Dude, start Dark Side of the Paid Search just after the third roar of the MGM lion at the beginning of the Wizard of Oz.
Around here it's an established rule that you're using those computers for research or educational surfing
It falls squarely in the realm of research if your paper is about cutting yourself after listening to Linkin Park or an in-depth analsys about how your bitch mom won't let you go to the mall.
So it is perfectly legal to view porn in the public library, and they will even give you a special screen to do it... but not myspace?
Since when does the peepshow loan out books?
However well-intentioned SOX is/was, if this trend continues, we don't get the SOX purported benefits, and we lose the economic benefits of these companies on US soil.
Working in an accounting environment, I see firsthand the enormous amount spent on Sox compliance. The OP's example only proves my assertion that the slimes that run the game will find new and novel ways to get their hands in the till.
The Ken Lays of the world didn't get the big bucks from playing by the rules.
How does the robe and wizard hat fit into all that?