Re:Mozilla -- Who compiles every release?
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Mozilla 1.4 RC3 Is Out
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You are joking about download time aren't you? I've never seen less than 60KB/sec for my Mozilla downloads, and that is normally during the/. rush to get the new version. The servers are hosted by AOL who, as you can imagine, have plenty of computing horsepower and not a small amount of connectivity either.
It isn't meant to be a purely historical document. It is meant to be a relevant, credible dictionary of terms that hackers use, and thus merely being updated is not good enough. However it can only have real credibility if it can actually cover a reasonable amount of hacker slang, and the number of hackers has grown over the years so ESR is either going to be everywhere at once or he's going to choose a subset. It appears that, given his recent choice of entries, if he wishes the Jargon File to be at all relevant in 5 years he'd have more success auctioning dogs.
The other point is - who cares anymore? The Internet is a far more diverse place than when the Jargon File was started and hackers can communicate in any way they want. The Jargon File is a bit of an anachronism.
Yes that was harsh but I did the same myself once. When it was pointed out that I'd made a mistake I felt very stupid. However getting in touch with The Register to tell them.org has disappeared is asking for trouble because, as we now know, they don't check the veracity of what they report. People must get in touch with lots of news outlets every day with 'news' that turns out on closer inspection not to be news at all. It's up to the news outlets to sift the wheat from the chaff, which The Register appears to fail to do.
Of course! The article has been pulled from teh front page because the service was NEVER down in the first place. The whois server that Simon Perry used to check if his domain was up was owned by Verisign. Which doesn't cary any.org information. Simon, being incredibly stupid, doesn't understand what "The Registry database contains ONLY.COM,.NET,.EDU domains and Registrars" means. Neither do The Register it seems. More great reporting from that high quality news source....
Everyone says they upped the depth of teh pipeline (20 stages) so they coudl push the MHz up too, but the engineers think this is so laughable as to be pathetic. As much as it'd be a great story if it were true, Intel are not going to deliberately put out a chip that they know can be outclassed so easily.
A quarter of people who responded to the survey said they played for 41 hours or more. If that's the usage of a quarter, how many are playing the game for 20 hours a week or more? What else are you doing outside of your job if you're spending that much time on there? Whatever anyone says about the skills developed by games such as EQ, there are important ones that may (that's "may", not "will") be allowed to wither on the vine, like the ability to interact well with others in social situations. Having been one of these people who spent every waking hour in front of a monitor, when not at work, in the past I can't overstate too much the importance of getting out and interacting for real. The geeky stereotype comes about when you really are using EQ as a replacement for more social activities. You may disagree, and I'd be interested to hear why, if so.
Yes there are Unix mail readers out there my dad (who definitely does not like computers) can get to grips with. Why in hell's name would my father need to set up Apache? You pay competent administrators money to do that.
People with MSCEs are not necessarily stupid. What is stupid is wondering if your father can set up Apache.
Did you think anyone was going to take you seriously if you claimed Open Source Software required babysitting by elitist gurus, or that "Unix and Open Source" could be reasonably together as closely-related things to help form an argument?
It's this sort of reactionary tripe that makes people mutter about trolls/idiots/Bill Gates and wander off. Do try again.
Well actually it was 1.0 about a year ago. But yes this is good news. Then again the rate of milestones on the way to 1.0 was not too disimilar to the rate of final point releases coming out now.
Perhaps the dupe is the April Fool itserlf? Perhaps we'll see this story repeated about 17 times later today? Maybe we'll get 'RMS hired by Microsoft' and it'll be a link to this RFC? I'm in paroxyms of laughter already.
This is a real language. I am not joking. Slashdot has posted a link to a real thing here whichis what is actually so amusing. Try the damn thing if you don't believe me. The creators intended to use their genius for evil.
As long as these books are thorough and accurate there can be little complaint. I found the best way to understand Physics was going through how thoughts on various things had changed over time, as we were taught at university. I am not sure this would work necessarily for large-scale science, we were taught the history of QM and Classical Mechanics (leading to Relativity). There it was easy to progress along the route.
Mozilla *is* the best tool for the job! I started using it to support the project but I've come to find tabbing essential to my work, as I hate a cluttered task bar and I regularly have 6 or 7 sites open for convenience. Mozilla allows me to customise my browsing experience and handle cookies etc. in a very nice way, compared to IE. Not perfect by any means but it's just better. Plus it handles my newsgroups nicely these days, now that bugs have been ironed out. And I've not mentioned the oft-praised popup-blocker, debugging tools, standards compliance etc. IE is quicker, less bloaty and that is it. I can live with the imperfections of Mozilla in order to enjoy the benefits.
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You are joking about download time aren't you? /. rush to get the new version.
I've never seen less than 60KB/sec for my Mozilla downloads, and that is normally during the
The servers are hosted by AOL who, as you can imagine, have plenty of computing horsepower and not a small amount of connectivity either.
People who will be running apps in a year or two. You think they can't find uses for that much processing power? :-)
That's harsh. Sympathies.
Then I'm still right in that it's an anachronism, just that you feel it has been one for longer. You could well be right.
It isn't meant to be a purely historical document. It is meant to be a relevant, credible dictionary of terms that hackers use, and thus merely being updated is not good enough.
However it can only have real credibility if it can actually cover a reasonable amount of hacker slang, and the number of hackers has grown over the years so ESR is either going to be everywhere at once or he's going to choose a subset.
It appears that, given his recent choice of entries, if he wishes the Jargon File to be at all relevant in 5 years he'd have more success auctioning dogs.
The other point is - who cares anymore? The Internet is a far more diverse place than when the Jargon File was started and hackers can communicate in any way they want. The Jargon File is a bit of an anachronism.
It is 'finnish'. And yeah I found it a bit odd it got modded up but hey I'm not ungrateful.
Um, he's Finnish. I have to express disbelief that you didn't know that given that it is repeated everywhere.
Yes that was harsh but I did the same myself once. When it was pointed out that I'd made a mistake I felt very stupid. .org has disappeared is asking for trouble because, as we now know, they don't check the veracity of what they report.
However getting in touch with The Register to tell them
People must get in touch with lots of news outlets every day with 'news' that turns out on closer inspection not to be news at all.
It's up to the news outlets to sift the wheat from the chaff, which The Register appears to fail to do.
Of course! The article has been pulled from teh front page because the service was NEVER down in the first place. .org information. .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and Registrars" means.
The whois server that Simon Perry used to check if his domain was up was owned by Verisign. Which doesn't cary any
Simon, being incredibly stupid, doesn't understand what "The Registry database contains ONLY
Neither do The Register it seems. More great reporting from that high quality news source....
Everyone says they upped the depth of teh pipeline (20 stages) so they coudl push the MHz up too, but the engineers think this is so laughable as to be pathetic.
As much as it'd be a great story if it were true, Intel are not going to deliberately put out a chip that they know can be outclassed so easily.
I can understand the television thing actually.
I wasn't talking about being a couch potato. That's mind-numbing in its own way.
It is a shame that EQ is the most social thing some people can find to do.
A quarter of people who responded to the survey said they played for 41 hours or more.
If that's the usage of a quarter, how many are playing the game for 20 hours a week or more?
What else are you doing outside of your job if you're spending that much time on there?
Whatever anyone says about the skills developed by games such as EQ, there are important ones that may (that's "may", not "will") be allowed to wither on the vine, like the ability to interact well with others in social situations.
Having been one of these people who spent every waking hour in front of a monitor, when not at work, in the past I can't overstate too much the importance of getting out and interacting for real.
The geeky stereotype comes about when you really are using EQ as a replacement for more social activities. You may disagree, and I'd be interested to hear why, if so.
Yes there are Unix mail readers out there my dad (who definitely does not like computers) can get to grips with.
Why in hell's name would my father need to set up Apache?
You pay competent administrators money to do that.
People with MSCEs are not necessarily stupid. What is stupid is wondering if your father can set up Apache.
Did you think anyone was going to take you seriously if you claimed Open Source Software required babysitting by elitist gurus, or that "Unix and Open Source" could be reasonably together as closely-related things to help form an argument?
It's this sort of reactionary tripe that makes people mutter about trolls/idiots/Bill Gates and wander off. Do try again.
Well actually it was 1.0 about a year ago.
But yes this is good news. Then again the rate of milestones on the way to 1.0 was not too disimilar to the rate of final point releases coming out now.
Perhaps the dupe is the April Fool itserlf? Perhaps we'll see this story repeated about 17 times later today?
Maybe we'll get 'RMS hired by Microsoft' and it'll be a link to this RFC?
I'm in paroxyms of laughter already.
Did you actually read the link? Did you find out that this is a real language?
This is a real language. I am not joking.
Slashdot has posted a link to a real thing here whichis what is actually so amusing.
Try the damn thing if you don't believe me.
The creators intended to use their genius for evil.
As long as these books are thorough and accurate there can be little complaint. I found the best way to understand Physics was going through how thoughts on various things had changed over time, as we were taught at university.
I am not sure this would work necessarily for large-scale science, we were taught the history of QM and Classical Mechanics (leading to Relativity).
There it was easy to progress along the route.
All the standards compliance of IE? Oh dear.
Still, it looks like a good project and yes on paper it looks better than IE. May be worth a shot.
Mozilla *is* the best tool for the job!
I started using it to support the project but I've come to find tabbing essential to my work, as I hate a cluttered task bar and I regularly have 6 or 7 sites open for convenience.
Mozilla allows me to customise my browsing experience and handle cookies etc. in a very nice way, compared to IE. Not perfect by any means but it's just better.
Plus it handles my newsgroups nicely these days, now that bugs have been ironed out.
And I've not mentioned the oft-praised popup-blocker, debugging tools, standards compliance etc.
IE is quicker, less bloaty and that is it.
I can live with the imperfections of Mozilla in order to enjoy the benefits.
It was 6502-derived but not a 6502 itself.
There is no 2nd post.
The circus is in town!