The fact that law allows for that does not mean that one's personal morals would not interfere to try to negotiate a peaceful resolution with the intruder. And if he is indeed unarmed he try to disappear as quickly as possible after the first shot in the air IF he gave you enough time/distance to make that first warning shot. And if he is just a harmless junkie he would stay clear from your house after that.
On the other hand, I can imagine that people who would engage into a fight with someone armed are armed as well, and maybe there onto something more than stealing your TV.
I wanted to post thin on the recent assault rifle thread, but did not have a chance. Do not you think that the world history might be slightly better if at least some Jews in Germany in 30s or more Russian peasants in 20s would have utomatic rifles? At least the Russian peasants had their guns they used to "hunt for rabbits" and were able to give at least some hard time to the "authorities". (Disclaimer: I'm from Russia originally). Why German Jews (and Russian "intelligentzia" later in 30s) did not put up ANY armed resistance at all, even after having pretty good reasons to believe that after they leave their house they will never see it again and most probably will be dead, is still a puzzle for me...
And yes, this is kind of a situation which trespass laws are designed to prevent, "my home is my castle", and so on.
And, by the way, the parent poster never mentioned "killing someone because of trespassing", he gave a pretty good and solid advice on how to learn to use your gun safely and effectively, if needed.
And did you REALLY think *terrorists* would be using passenger airlines as missiles?
No, but I am originally from Russia and as a kid I never had an idea to go to the cockpit and say 'Hi' to the captain, I guess it was because the door was shut tight. Moreover, a friend of mine (who graduated from the civil aviation tech. college, in the same parts of the world) told me (2 years and 263 days ago, yes, tonight is a day to at least stop and think a bit) that Russian pilots had explicit procedures not to react to anything going on in the main cabin and if they suspect anything fishy just land on the nearest military runway.
And how exactly the unavailability of the "assault weapons" would've prevented 9/11?
The terrorist kind does not want to engage in a combat with more or less 50/50 chance of "success", or, more precisely, they want to kill 10 or 100 (the more the better for them) people with them. So they would never plan for a "fair" shoot-out.
What they might plan for is, for example, taking a small town as hostages (like, 30 of them might control a small town of a couple thousand people, with proper preparation, of course!). If you think it is impossible, think of Beslan, OK?
And in this situation maybe just a slim chance that one of the guys manage to get under their radar and emerge from his house with something "substantial" is a good thing, right?
For the international kind, why lug something halfway across the world when they can get it easily at the corner gun store?
Maybe because it is safer to lug it from across the world than to test your chance with background checks or a guy whom you paid a six-pack to pick-up that gun drinking it before, not after?
And as of the domestic kind -- well, I do not consider Koresh to be a terrorist, and McVein was quite "successful" without any guns.
... expected to make up the time or use Paid Time Off./em>
I'm just curious, what the hell does 'Paid Time Off' in your company mean? Does it cut off your vacation hours, or something? Over here (So. Cal.) it seems to be the time to charge on your timecard for the times when you can not work due to some external circumstances and the company is _paying_ for your _time_off_, thus 'Paid'... Do they have any other definition in the "blizzard-experiencing ";-) states?
To quite its epigraph: If there's nothing different about UNIX people, how come so many were liberal-arts majors? It's the love of words that makes UNIX stand out.
Hey, Angel'O'Sphere, do not take my comments at the face value, OK? (Why/. does not have 'Sarcastic' moderation, after all?;-) )... makes pretty clear tha you have no clue how currencies work in our time:D no offence.
Well, I guess it was more than compensated by the following gold-backed "currency" link, was not it?
Bottom line: only in third world countries backed currencies do exist today.
The good thing about a currency backed by some universally-accepted commodity (gold most common) is that it does not really matter where did you bring it from, some third world country, UK, Russia or the good ol' US of A.
Paul B.
P.S. Care to name a third-world country with their currency backed by any reasonable commodity?
P.P.S. And, what did happen 4 month ago?;-)
P.P.P.S. About the IO in bed currency, the Wife actually plays the role of the Feds/Central Bank/Govt, being in real life able to tell the carriers of her IOU notes with whom and for what they can exchange them for. Yes, it was meant to be a sarcastic example, OK?;-)
After initial enthusiasm by foundations, funding for Time Dollar Exchanges dried up in the mid 1990's, and a period of struggle to keep afloat followed.
Anyone finds this passage from the History section of the timedollars site a little bit, hmm, _strange_? Were not the proponents supposed to be paid in TIME dollars?;-)
Is not it a kind of a socialist (and further left) response to the Liberty Dollars?
Let's see, every time me and my wife spend a nice hour in bed we write a Time Dollar IOU to each other for services provided... HUH???
Paul B.
P.S. Yes, I did RTFA, but I guess even on/. (with as wide a range of strange ideas as we constantly deal with), one might want to provide a one-sentence intoduction to what he is talking about.
If I deserved to get 3 Funny mods just for pointing out the inconsistency between the story about saying F.U. on a job interview and.sig blaming Bush or whoever is currently in power for one being jobless, the parent definitely deserves +5 Insightful (or, Informative, for some people here)
... but I still think that it was not what the grandposter had in mind! To my mind, "trivially decidable" means "computable" (note the "trivially" part!), and I do not think it is that trivial to get the answer to the halting problem -- yes, someOne with an infinite (though countable) number of computers and infinite -- either (countable) number of clock cycles or (continuous) amount of time on its hands, I do not know which is required -- can know all the answers. But that entity is usually referred to as "God" and its existance is a bit beyond the scope of this discussion...;-)
Firstly, the halting problem is trivially decidable for any particular program, the program either halts or it doesn't.
Sorry, you are wrong here. Yes, if you ran a program and it stopped you know your answer. But if the program is still running, how would you know if it will eventually halt or not? And if it is one of those programs that do *not* halt, you'd have to wait for infinite amount of time to declare it "non-halting".
As to your solution of "comparing P and NP sets" -- I think you are slightly trolling here!;-)
What is interesting is that younger Greenspan was quite a passionate advocate of the gold standard, see, e.g., his essay in this book (scroll down couple pages to the TOC).
I was always wondering how could he take his current job...;-)
Almost any stay-at-home wife will be able to start a small streaming media company;-)
Paul B.
And? Futures market differ from bets HOW? ;-)
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... yeah, some of the previous comments in this thread have been rather insightful, one can not always assume that people gone betting on horse racing have had training in probability theory...;-)
Paul B.
P.S. A story for you about not "using real money". There was (is?) a bunch of stock-trading-game/education sites on the 'Net, you get all the same feeds and info about the real companies and play virtual money, in the end (if you are good) they tell you 'Yeah, you'd win $2M last year".
Anyway, I mentioned that to my friend back in Moscow, Russia business/banking world (like, 8 years ago) and he stopped for a long second (pint of beer midway between the table and his mouth;-) ) and then said what could loosely be translated like "Wow!!! I see it!".
The bottom line: it is not easy to get insiders to play on the real stock and know what they are doing (no, not on M.Stewart level, but on the guy-on-the-floor level), but enough of them *just might* play for the game money, and if you see someone constantly winning on one company's stock you start making his bets in real world... Was quite an eye-opener for me!;-)
But what would happen if Dec. 31, 2010 approaches and nothing seems to be happening? Will the bookie accept $10M bet from some rich investment company willing to make 1% in 3 days? (Assuming that offices are closed on 31rd and 1st, otherwise it would be 1% in 1 day, great pay-off!).
Paul B.
Thanks for the explanation! (and MOD AC UP!)
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Interesting, never though about this (but then, again, all I know about bets is from probability theory examples, have not yet had a chance to actually bet on a horse;-) ).
Paul B.
Who sets the odds?
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I've got an impression from reading the article that the bookie company itself will be setting odds (and, thus, Bookies' odds are not straightforward probabilities. They also take into account how much the company can afford to lose in case they have to pay out.).
I always though that the "proper" way to do this is to make people to bet for/against the event, odds are calculated as the ratio of $$ in those two pots. Then bookie loses nothing (and always gets his fee from both winners and losers).
Are they saying that their odds are fixed numbers and To work out the odds on the physics experiments, Lush consulted physicists and astronomers.?
Then it becomes interesting to know how many frames are available, if ~50 it becomes a great deal compared to paying like $0.50/print otherwise + extra for the CD.
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The fact that law allows for that does not mean that one's personal morals would not interfere to try to negotiate a peaceful resolution with the intruder. And if he is indeed unarmed he try to disappear as quickly as possible after the first shot in the air IF he gave you enough time/distance to make that first warning shot. And if he is just a harmless junkie he would stay clear from your house after that.
On the other hand, I can imagine that people who would engage into a fight with someone armed are armed as well, and maybe there onto something more than stealing your TV.
I wanted to post thin on the recent assault rifle thread, but did not have a chance. Do not you think that the world history might be slightly better if at least some Jews in Germany in 30s or more Russian peasants in 20s would have utomatic rifles? At least the Russian peasants had their guns they used to "hunt for rabbits" and were able to give at least some hard time to the "authorities". (Disclaimer: I'm from Russia originally). Why German Jews (and Russian "intelligentzia" later in 30s) did not put up ANY armed resistance at all, even after having pretty good reasons to believe that after they leave their house they will never see it again and most probably will be dead, is still a puzzle for me...
And yes, this is kind of a situation which trespass laws are designed to prevent, "my home is my castle", and so on.
And, by the way, the parent poster never mentioned "killing someone because of trespassing", he gave a pretty good and solid advice on how to learn to use your gun safely and effectively, if needed.
Paul B.
And did you REALLY think *terrorists* would be using passenger airlines as missiles?
No, but I am originally from Russia and as a kid I never had an idea to go to the cockpit and say 'Hi' to the captain, I guess it was because the door was shut tight. Moreover, a friend of mine (who graduated from the civil aviation tech. college, in the same parts of the world) told me (2 years and 263 days ago, yes, tonight is a day to at least stop and think a bit) that Russian pilots had explicit procedures not to react to anything going on in the main cabin and if they suspect anything fishy just land on the nearest military runway.
And how exactly the unavailability of the "assault weapons" would've prevented 9/11?
The terrorist kind does not want to engage in a combat with more or less 50/50 chance of "success", or, more precisely, they want to kill 10 or 100 (the more the better for them) people with them. So they would never plan for a "fair" shoot-out.
What they might plan for is, for example, taking a small town as hostages (like, 30 of them might control a small town of a couple thousand people, with proper preparation, of course!). If you think it is impossible, think of Beslan, OK?
And in this situation maybe just a slim chance that one of the guys manage to get under their radar and emerge from his house with something "substantial" is a good thing, right?
For the international kind, why lug something halfway across the world when they can get it easily at the corner gun store?
Maybe because it is safer to lug it from across the world than to test your chance with background checks or a guy whom you paid a six-pack to pick-up that gun drinking it before, not after?
And as of the domestic kind -- well, I do not consider Koresh to be a terrorist, and McVein was quite "successful" without any guns.
Paul B.
Do you REALLY think *terrorists* would purchase their weapons in corner gun store???
Paul B.
... expected to make up the time or use Paid Time Off./em>
;-) states?
I'm just curious, what the hell does 'Paid Time Off' in your company mean? Does it cut off your vacation hours, or something? Over here (So. Cal.) it seems to be the time to charge on your timecard for the times when you can not work due to some external circumstances and the company is _paying_ for your _time_off_, thus 'Paid'... Do they have any other definition in the "blizzard-experiencing "
Paul B.
I have a degree in English Literature. When I took my first job in IT, my boss told me that most IT people were an inch wide and a mile deep.
;-)
In this case you surely have read this essay, but if not -- you'll enjoy it!
To quite its epigraph: If there's nothing different about UNIX people, how come so many were liberal-arts majors?
It's the love of words that makes UNIX stand out.
Paul B.
Hey, Angel'O'Sphere, do not take my comments at the face value, OK? (Why /. does not have 'Sarcastic' moderation, after all? ;-) ) ... makes pretty clear tha you have no clue how currencies work in our time :D no offence.
;-)
;-)
Well, I guess it was more than compensated by the following gold-backed "currency" link, was not it?
Bottom line: only in third world countries backed currencies do exist today.
The good thing about a currency backed by some universally-accepted commodity (gold most common) is that it does not really matter where did you bring it from, some third world country, UK, Russia or the good ol' US of A.
Paul B.
P.S. Care to name a third-world country with their currency backed by any reasonable commodity?
P.P.S. And, what did happen 4 month ago?
P.P.P.S. About the IO in bed currency, the Wife actually plays the role of the Feds/Central Bank/Govt, being in real life able to tell the carriers of her IOU notes with whom and for what they can exchange them for. Yes, it was meant to be a sarcastic example, OK?
... but then, again, #1 reason in your .signature's link directly contradicts the link in my .signature!
;-)
Which only proves that people sometimes can be reasoned with!
Paul B.
After initial enthusiasm by foundations, funding for Time Dollar Exchanges dried up in the mid 1990's, and a period of struggle to keep afloat followed.
;-)
Anyone finds this passage from the History section of the timedollars site a little bit, hmm, _strange_? Were not the proponents supposed to be paid in TIME dollars?
Paul B.
What is is backed by? Your and mine spare time?
/. (with as wide a range of strange ideas as we constantly deal with), one might want to provide a one-sentence intoduction to what he is talking about.
Is not it a kind of a socialist (and further left) response to the Liberty Dollars?
Let's see, every time me and my wife spend a nice hour in bed we write a Time Dollar IOU to each other for services provided... HUH???
Paul B.
P.S. Yes, I did RTFA, but I guess even on
If I deserved to get 3 Funny mods just for pointing out the inconsistency between the story about saying F.U. on a job interview and .sig blaming Bush or whoever is currently in power for one being jobless, the parent definitely deserves +5 Insightful (or, Informative, for some people here)
Paul B.
But maybe this story explains your .signature? ;-)
Paul B.
... and I'd ask to make it Insightful, not Funny, but the author is an AC, why would (s)he care! ;-)
Paul B.
... but to *dispute* it too!
Paul B.
... but I still think that it was not what the grandposter had in mind! To my mind, "trivially decidable" means "computable" (note the "trivially" part!), and I do not think it is that trivial to get the answer to the halting problem -- yes, someOne with an infinite (though countable) number of computers and infinite -- either (countable) number of clock cycles or (continuous) amount of time on its hands, I do not know which is required -- can know all the answers. But that entity is usually referred to as "God" and its existance is a bit beyond the scope of this discussion... ;-)
Paul B.
Firstly, the halting problem is trivially decidable for any particular program, the program either halts or it doesn't.
;-)
Sorry, you are wrong here. Yes, if you ran a program and it stopped you know your answer. But if the program is still running, how would you know if it will eventually halt or not? And if it is one of those programs that do *not* halt, you'd have to wait for infinite amount of time to declare it "non-halting".
As to your solution of "comparing P and NP sets" -- I think you are slightly trolling here!
Paul B.
What is interesting is that younger Greenspan was quite a passionate advocate of the gold standard, see, e.g., his essay in this book (scroll down couple pages to the TOC).
;-)
I was always wondering how could he take his current job...
Paul B.
Almost any stay-at-home wife will be able to start a small streaming media company ;-)
Paul B.
... yeah, some of the previous comments in this thread have been rather insightful, one can not always assume that people gone betting on horse racing have had training in probability theory... ;-)
;-) ) and then said what could loosely be translated like "Wow!!! I see it!".
;-)
Paul B.
P.S. A story for you about not "using real money". There was (is?) a bunch of stock-trading-game/education sites on the 'Net, you get all the same feeds and info about the real companies and play virtual money, in the end (if you are good) they tell you 'Yeah, you'd win $2M last year".
Anyway, I mentioned that to my friend back in Moscow, Russia business/banking world (like, 8 years ago) and he stopped for a long second (pint of beer midway between the table and his mouth
The bottom line: it is not easy to get insiders to play on the real stock and know what they are doing (no, not on M.Stewart level, but on the guy-on-the-floor level), but enough of them *just might* play for the game money, and if you see someone constantly winning on one company's stock you start making his bets in real world... Was quite an eye-opener for me!
Paul B.
Good point!
But what would happen if Dec. 31, 2010 approaches and nothing seems to be happening? Will the bookie accept $10M bet from some rich investment company willing to make 1% in 3 days? (Assuming that offices are closed on 31rd and 1st, otherwise it would be 1% in 1 day, great pay-off!).
Paul B.
Interesting, never though about this (but then, again, all I know about bets is from probability theory examples, have not yet had a chance to actually bet on a horse ;-) ).
Paul B.
I've got an impression from reading the article that the bookie company itself will be setting odds (and, thus, Bookies' odds are not straightforward probabilities. They also take into account how much the company can afford to lose in case they have to pay out.).
I always though that the "proper" way to do this is to make people to bet for/against the event, odds are calculated as the ratio of $$ in those two pots. Then bookie loses nothing (and always gets his fee from both winners and losers).
Are they saying that their odds are fixed numbers and To work out the odds on the physics experiments, Lush consulted physicists and astronomers.?
Paul B.
Crazy moderators! And you did not even show any partisan slant at all, just pointed out a possibility...
Paul B.
Really, never thought of that. Whoever has mod points now, please mod up!
Paul B.
No, mod parent up instead!
Paul B.
Then it becomes interesting to know how many frames are available, if ~50 it becomes a great deal compared to paying like $0.50/print otherwise + extra for the CD.
Paul B.