The non-free response was a response on the/. article header.
Article Header:
'Ubuntu is a well integrated, practical and absolutely free'
Just because they mention Ubuntu is integrated, practical and absolutely free doesn't mean they mean they think Suse is unintegrated, impractial and non-free;-)
And yes, I generally agree with you about enterprise editions - but it would be nice to know the free edition is going to be around forever.
I trust communities like Debian, Gentoo and (to a lesser extent) Ubuntu for this peace of mind far more the companies like Red Hat, Novell, etc.
Why do you say that? The review says "SUSE Linux is available as a free unsupported download,"
That said, I don't believe Suse has any guarantees about prices of future products - whereas Ubuntu says on their front page:
"Ubuntu will always be free of charge, and there is no extra fee for the "enterprise edition", we make our very best work available to everyone on the same Free terms."
An algae bloom turns the shallows of a lake into an unpleasant greenish stretch of water. The algae that can make the shores of our lakes repulsive is exactly a mosquito's cup of tea. Not only do they eat algae but they are also a source of food for others in the food chain. Dragonflies, fish and birds eat them.
So there you go, unfortunately they're a vital part of the ecosystem... (as are my other hated creature, the jellyfish)
Just to be clear, you're apologizing to the wrong guy. I didn't post what you replied to above. I was just replying to yours but have no connection with the other guy.
Doh!
Trying to read too many threads at the same time.
Apologies! You are most reasonable - but the g-g-g-parent wasn't. I shouldn't have confused you.
Thanks for your reply - it was more reasonable then mine and I apologise for calling you a retard (I should have said instead that your post was hasty and ill-considered).
It doesn't form part of his evolutionary work per se but he _did_ write about this. In his autobiography, he mentions things which are included in an excerpt. He began as an orthodox christian but was agnostic by the end. I still don't feel he had an agenda about it and can find no evidence of such a thing but only he really knew for sure.
OK - read the link you've provided - in it Darwin shows a tremendous respect for Christianity & talks in a calm & reasonable way about his beliefs agnostic.
At no point does he show "an anti-religious agenda". It is absurd to think he does.
Well, the tcp/ip stack for windows is based on bsd iirc I'm afraid you recall incorrectly. Read this slashdot thread to get more info - but essentially, whilst there is plenty of BSD code in microsoft products, its unlikely that they used a bsd based tcp/ip stack in windows versions beyond NT3.5.
beyond this, I never said the firewall was software and ran on the windows machine...
Where they are running is irrelevant to this discussion.
for that matter, there's also router attacks, and other types of DOS attacks.
errr, yes - thats why I said I'm sure you could think of other attacks given ten minutes.
I didn't mean to infer that there weren't possibly other means of attack, so much as that they are much less a possibility... I'm not aware of any attacks exploiting the windows tcp/ip stack directly...
And if you build a program that is running on windows, but behind a firewall that only exposes the port your application runs on... your application is the only attack vector for that machine...
By the time I finished reading your post I thought of two attack vectors you neglected.
1) The TCP/IP implementation (usually implemented in the....Operating System!)
2) The firewall implementation.
I'm sure if you give it ten minutes thought you can come up with many others.
A solid piece of software is just as impenetrable on Windows as it is on Linux or any other platform
Hmmmmn....How about if I change your statement to:
A solid piece of software is just as impenetrable on Windows 95 as it is on Windows XP Professional or any other platform
This statement is incorrect - Windows 9x Filesystem (for starters) makes your program's config files (or hell binary) overwriteable by anyone in the system.
It was news to Eileen Brown and the Exchange team who have been busily building and testing Exchange on 32 / 64 bits.
I'm not sure why Microsoft announced this - but I'm quite sure that they're going to be building and testing 32 and 64 bit versions of all their major products right until far closer to release date, then they will decide what to release based on what their customers are asking for.
Offtopic: Can anyone think of a good update to this:
Windows is a 32-bit shell for a 16-bit extension to an 8-bit operating system designed for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.
Because neither "free video capabilities" nor "ease-of-use" are at all distinguishing features these days.
True they're not - however if you'd bothered to read the link you posted, you'd notice that in the FAQ:
Q.) What are Open Standards and why does it matter? A.) An Open Standard is more than just a specification. The principles behind the standard, and the practice of offering and operating the standard, are what make the standard Open. yakForFree follows the standards proposed mostly by the IETF.
If true, this is an advantage over most other chat clients (I am talking about video here)
iChat AV probably does both of these things better, actually, and there's a ton of similar apps available. Even for Windows.;)
Hmmmmn.
I presume the person who submitted this story was paid for promoting this product - I hope you were well paid for your adverisment too.
The headline should read: Private Sector will probably retain control of the Internet.
From the TFA:
the compromise's ultimate decision is that leadership of the Internet, and its future direction, will remain in the hands of the private sector, although some critics contend that the U.S. government, which oversees ICANN, if only nominally, could still flex its muscle in future decisions.
And it hasn't even been ratified....this is just a preliminary decision.
As the future of Unix, Apple is also making strong claims on the server and super computer markets. Apples success with the Virginia Tech supercomputer is proof that Apple is opening up a lead in the top-end of the market.
There seems to be an emerging consensus in Slashdot land that Apple and OS X is the future of Unix and the sole legitmate claimaint to the king of the desktop.
*sighs* Troll... modded up to +3 by apple fanboys - how predictable.
Just to expand on that, it is just as trivially easy to buy a CD online, pop it into your CD-ROM when it arrives & rip it to the format you prefer.
End result:
You can fit loads of low quality files on your portable device (if that's your preference)
You can sacrifice quantity for quality on your music player (if sound quality means more for you)
You have music in a format that is guaranteed to be around for years to come (the CD)
You get a booklet with lyrics, etc.
Although I can see some of the appeal for the itunes store/the various wma stores/sony's online stores, frankly I think they're occupying a rather dangerous middle ground between the (free) high quality tunes you can get from torrents/donkey and the (far better value for money) CDs you can buy.
Hmmmmn, actually, strike that - rather clumsily dodged....
But to answer your question, I was serious that the moronic wing of christianity does protest against anything it percieves as being satanic.
I added the anecdote and news report because they were damn funny - as well as backing up my point - and frankly, why take morons seriously enough to post a serious argument* when satire will make your point for you?
Did you hear that wooshing noise? That was the humour and the insight going over your head while you were furiously typing in blah blah blah Texas stereotype blah blah blah how dare someone attack christians** blah blah blah.
* Yes, I am irony*** of the context here.
**note I wasn't attacking Christians - just the moronic wing of Christianity.
Well, as an Australian I can honestly say that this will be useless.
From TFA:
Market research companies, pollsters, charities and religious organisations are likely to be exempted.
Riiiiiiggght.... Market resarch companies on the list of exempted organisations?
I'm also quite sure that Politicians will be exempt from this.
And quite frankly - the one person I do not want spamming me is John Howard (lying Australian Prime minister)
This is the phone message he left on many peoples phones prior to the last election:
JOHN HOWARD (phone message): Hello, I'm John Howard. I've taken the unusual step of contacting you with this recorded message to let you know we have recently announced what our first seven tasks will be if re-elected to office. So on Saturday, I ask you vote for your local Liberal member Peter Lindsay. This is John Howard. Thank you for your time.
Think about it - will you trust a do-not-call register from a goverment with a prime minister willing to make marketing calls and send email spam through his son's company?
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The non-free response was a response on the
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Just because they mention Ubuntu is integrated, practical and absolutely free doesn't mean they mean they think Suse is unintegrated, impractial and non-free
And yes, I generally agree with you about enterprise editions - but it would be nice to know the free edition is going to be around forever.
I trust communities like Debian, Gentoo and (to a lesser extent) Ubuntu for this peace of mind far more the companies like Red Hat, Novell, etc.
So where does the non-free part come in?
Why do you say that? The review says "SUSE Linux is available as a free unsupported download,"
That said, I don't believe Suse has any guarantees about prices of future products - whereas Ubuntu says on their front page:
"Ubuntu will always be free of charge, and there is no extra fee for the "enterprise edition", we make our very best work available to everyone on the same Free terms."
In their larval form they eat algae
So there you go, unfortunately they're a vital part of the ecosystem... (as are my other hated creature, the jellyfish)
The average computer uses as much as the Mayflower worth of coal to run on any given day.
I'm sorry - I don't understand metric; how many libaries of congress per furlong is that?
Just to be clear, you're apologizing to the wrong guy. I didn't post what you replied to above. I was just replying to yours but have no connection with the other guy.
Doh!
Trying to read too many threads at the same time.
Apologies! You are most reasonable - but the g-g-g-parent wasn't. I shouldn't have confused you.
Hi there hpulley!
:-) When Gutenberg has it for free" :-)
Thanks for your reply - it was more reasonable then mine and I apologise for calling you a retard (I should have said instead that your post was hasty and ill-considered).
It doesn't form part of his evolutionary work per se but he _did_ write about this. In his autobiography, he mentions things which are included in an excerpt. He began as an orthodox christian but was agnostic by the end. I still don't feel he had an agenda about it and can find no evidence of such a thing but only he really knew for sure.
OK - read the link you've provided - in it Darwin shows a tremendous respect for Christianity & talks in a calm & reasonable way about his beliefs agnostic.
At no point does he show "an anti-religious agenda". It is absurd to think he does.
Oh - and btw, there is no need to link to Amazon
Hmmmmn, I just downloaded On the origin of species from ibiblio.
The only mention of God I can find in the main text is nothing like what you mention.
Would you care to download the book (its free from the link) and provide the quote you are referring to?
You are a retard.
Both evolution and Darwin himself are silent on the topic of religion.
It falls outside of the scope of his work.
Here you go
Well, the tcp/ip stack for windows is based on bsd iirc
I'm afraid you recall incorrectly. Read this slashdot thread to get more info - but essentially, whilst there is plenty of BSD code in microsoft products, its unlikely that they used a bsd based tcp/ip stack in windows versions beyond NT3.5.
beyond this, I never said the firewall was software and ran on the windows machine...
Where they are running is irrelevant to this discussion.
for that matter, there's also router attacks, and other types of DOS attacks.
errr, yes - thats why I said I'm sure you could think of other attacks given ten minutes.
I didn't mean to infer that there weren't possibly other means of attack, so much as that they are much less a possibility... I'm not aware of any attacks exploiting the windows tcp/ip stack directly...
Have a read of Microsoft Security Bulletin MS05-019
Vulnerabilities in TCP/IP Could Allow Remote Code Execution and Denial of Service
And if you build a program that is running on windows, but behind a firewall that only exposes the port your application runs on... your application is the only attack vector for that machine...
By the time I finished reading your post I thought of two attack vectors you neglected.
1) The TCP/IP implementation (usually implemented in the....Operating System!)
2) The firewall implementation.
I'm sure if you give it ten minutes thought you can come up with many others.
The O/S is important.
A solid piece of software is just as impenetrable on Windows as it is on Linux or any other platform
Hmmmmn....How about if I change your statement to:
A solid piece of software is just as impenetrable on Windows 95 as it is on Windows XP Professional or any other platform
This statement is incorrect - Windows 9x Filesystem (for starters) makes your program's config files (or hell binary) overwriteable by anyone in the system.
So you see - the OS is important.
It was news to Eileen Brown and the Exchange team who have been busily building and testing Exchange on 32 / 64 bits.
I'm not sure why Microsoft announced this - but I'm quite sure that they're going to be building and testing 32 and 64 bit versions of all their major products right until far closer to release date, then they will decide what to release based on what their customers are asking for.
Offtopic: Can anyone think of a good update to this:
Yes. It is.
Because neither "free video capabilities" nor "ease-of-use" are at all distinguishing features these days.
True they're not - however if you'd bothered to read the link you posted, you'd notice that in the FAQ:
If true, this is an advantage over most other chat clients (I am talking about video here)
iChat AV probably does both of these things better, actually, and there's a ton of similar apps available. Even for Windows.
Hmmmmn.
I presume the person who submitted this story was paid for promoting this product - I hope you were well paid for your adverisment too.
Private Sector will probably retain control of the Internet.
From the TFA:
And it hasn't even been ratified....this is just a preliminary decision.
Have a read of this the register article about the Pakistani Ambassador who made this possible.
Let's face it, Red Hat's amaturish "desktop" offerings and lame marketing can't and won't overthrow Micrsoft.
Troll.
Red hat do not compete in the desktop space. Nice try.
As the future of Unix, Apple is also making strong claims on the server and super computer markets. Apples success with the Virginia Tech supercomputer is proof that Apple is opening up a lead in the top-end of the market.
Troll
You mean the way Linux "rules" Supercomputers with an estimated 60% of the top 500?
There seems to be an emerging consensus in Slashdot land that Apple and OS X is the future of Unix and the sole legitmate claimaint to the king of the desktop.
*sighs* Troll... modded up to +3 by apple fanboys - how predictable.
They have obviously gotten to you!
Just to expand on that, it is just as trivially easy to buy a CD online, pop it into your CD-ROM when it arrives & rip it to the format you prefer.
End result:
Although I can see some of the appeal for the itunes store/the various wma stores/sony's online stores, frankly I think they're occupying a rather dangerous middle ground between the (free) high quality tunes you can get from torrents/donkey and the (far better value for money) CDs you can buy.
So, is anyone else getting tired of these Slashvertisement product announcements on the /. front page?
Hmmmmn, are you really sure that "Glide Effortless" paid Slashdot to have us call them vapourware hang shit on its name and business ethics?
Nicely dodged answering the question!
Hmmmmn, actually, strike that - rather clumsily dodged....
But to answer your question, I was serious that the moronic wing of christianity does protest against anything it percieves as being satanic.
I added the anecdote and news report because they were damn funny - as well as backing up my point - and frankly, why take morons seriously enough to post a serious argument* when satire will make your point for you?
Did you hear that wooshing noise? That was the humour and the insight going over your head while you were furiously typing in blah blah blah Texas stereotype blah blah blah how dare someone attack christians** blah blah blah.
* Yes, I am irony*** of the context here.
**note I wasn't attacking Christians - just the moronic wing of Christianity.
*** Alanis Morisette type irony.
*sighs* Essentially the moronic end of chrisitianity protests against anything they associate with Satanism
This seems to be what you've taken offense at? Correct me if I am wrong.
So tell me - Do the moronic end of christianity protest against anything they associate with satanism?
Please note - I am not talking about christians in general - just the moronic end of christianity.
Whoa!
;-)
1) Lighten up man, not everyone who mentions Texas tangentially is attacking your state*
2) I said the first link was "an amusing annecdote"
3) Look at the date (and timezone) of the second story
* Texas sucks
*sighs* Essentially the moronic end of chrisitianity protests against anything they associate with Satanism.
The beastie was deemed satanistic by some of these morons who proceeded to start protests against the BSDs, and even Apple.
Here's an amusing annecdote
Choice quote:
And here's Family First coming down on Apple
Morons.
Its too late....
Five years to late
From TFA:
Riiiiiiggght.... Market resarch companies on the list of exempted organisations?
I'm also quite sure that Politicians will be exempt from this.
And quite frankly - the one person I do not want spamming me is John Howard (lying Australian Prime minister)
This is the phone message he left on many peoples phones prior to the last election:
Think about it - will you trust a do-not-call register from a goverment with a prime minister willing to make marketing calls and send email spam through his son's company?