i haven't read the story yet, but i wonder if this is one case where the "new republic" might advocate federal regulation to stop companies from abusing their positions...
just to reply to myself, i was getting distracted by stuff as i typed. so that's why i forgot to mention lots of hard work by liam and others. this is particularly important since i shot liam in the eye with a nerf gun! sorry!
and a few irish linux users were there though i hope more will go. for those linux users in ireland who havn't been paying attention, this is your user's group.
just to mention my company's contribution, we supplied the isdn line for the first three or four days. eircom, irelands most wonderful phone company, was not able to make the isdn line work for the doolin activities center. so the internet connection was achieved by bouncing a signal to a youth hostel further into doolin and then from there up to my boss's office over his garage. the wireless gear and seup were handled by several people including the irish wan group.
our company is doolin technologies. we do linux application development and in our own odd way are responsible for about half a million people using linux in ireland each week. if you ever visit (or live in) ireland and get a mobile phone or long distance top-up code from an alphyra (formerly itg) credit card terminal, you've just used linux. and perl and mysql actually.
if anyone is in ireland up to this saturday, get down to doolin. it's great fun down there. and if you're an annoyed eircom customer, might i recommend the odtr as a place you might be able to direct your complaint.
here's a concept: people move. i moved from the us to europe and i'm not alone. likewise people move from europe to america. what happens to our dvd collections? are we just supposed to buy our collection again? and if we are supposed to do that, what do we do with our old dvd's? i thought they didn't want people selling used cd's - they're ok with us selling our old dvd's?
good point. see http://ie.suberic.net/justalurker.com/. verizon's lawyers can feel free to look me up - just look in your handy copy of the eircom phone book for the 07 and 09 area codes.
you know, while americans try to play polititcs with this, here's a thought to consider. the us needs investment from foreign countries. my pension is invested in us stocks and yet i live in ireland. however once the market creeps up a bit, that money gets invested elsewhere.
the us gov't continues to be more and more business friendly, and yet in reality that's bad for business in most cases. if i as an investor don't see that changing, i don't put my money in. and i'm not alone.
ok, first there's mysql. their license page is rather surprising. they state that their client lib is lgpl, and yet in embedded systems it seems like they're saying it's gpl. kind of odd really - seems like they're trying to extend it.
second is cygwin. they apparently release their libs under the gpl. the folks who made the readline library did the same thing. however many people who code libraries license them under the lgpl - you don't need to gpl the code that uses the libs, but you do need to lgpl the changes you add to the library. an example of this is the gnu libc which pretty much all applications link to.
lastly is tivo. it is my understanding that the tivo uses some closed source drivers. the gpl'ed linux kernel specifically allows closed source modules under certain conditions. in addition the kernel's gpl license has *zero* effect on applications that run under it. so if tivo has some application that run under linux, those applications can be closed source, bsd licensed or gpl'd.
this "viral gpl" thing gets overly hyped. the project with the largest body of source on most linux boxes is not under the gpl - the x window system is not under the gpl. the most common browser up to a few years ago was closed source. a lot of low-level utils on a linux box are licensed under the bsd license.
as far as "the gpl hasn't been tested in court" bit is just silly. most contracts haven't been tested in court. the gpl is spelled out both in plain english and legalese.
ok, how else to you describe people who state things as facts when there are actual, real world examples of the exact opposite? i know moral relativism, and the idea that everyone has a right to speak is all the rage, but the fact is, the guy was talking out of his ass. after all, i have the right to speak as well, correct? i suppose i could say, "he was stating things as facts that were obviously incorrect," but i thought i'd save a few chars.
and i didn't give a "pro-gpl rant." i said right from the beginning that both licenses had strengths and weaknesses. but the "can't use the gpl in embedded devices," is such a tired, lame, and provably wrong ancient chestnut spewed from pro-bsd people. and i should mention, usually not from bsd advocates with any level of a clue.
no, that's also bullshit. quit talking out of your ass. the example i gave, tivo, has closed source software written by tivo.
in the case of mysql, very, very few people write code that links in directly to mysql. if someone uses the c api to write a mysql client application, they can distribute that code as closed, bsd, gpl, or whatever licensed software. and that's true if it is embedded, on a server, on a desktop or printed out on punch cards and stapled to your ass.
either learn the facts or quit posting, because all you're doing right now is spreading misinformation.
that's a neat trick - being able to talk out of your ass.
listen sport, you can use gpl in embedded systems. you've heard of the tivo, right?
there are differences between bsd and the gpl. and they have different strengths. but it would be really nice if bsd advocates would quit being such twats.
no, zimbabwe would have an agriculture industry. however it would essentially owe a tax to the gm corn company from every farmer in zimbabwe.
isn't private industry great! no more of this progressive tax system from icky governments, no, private industry loves leeching on starving people to enable people in richer, developed countries to send their kids to college and see friends on an even bigger tv.
wait, pda's are low power, low mem devices and you say they have no need for the remote display ability of x? really?
assume that a low memory foot print version of an x-server exists (and you should assume this since it actually does exist). assume your pda has a wireless card and a color screen (because many do). and let's say you're a web designer and you're in a meeting with just your pda and for some reason you need to do up a quick logo. so you fire off the gimp from your high powered desktop box and hae it display on your pda. you do up a quick logo using some gimp scripts and effects and then pass it around.
there, that's one use for remote display. now use you imagination and fill in the other 1 million cases where gui requirements are small and the stuff behind the gui are highly cpu and/or memory intensive. wait, i forgot java, make that 10 million cases...
apparently this is the website of the county clerk quoted in the houston cronicle story. since/. failed to get info from him, perhaps we could each drop him an email to find out the other side of the story.
however, i do note that the county attorney seems a little selective in what laws he wants enforced.
i really hate this. tech announcements that seem good, but then suck.
apple and sun team up. yeay! to port open office to os x. yeay! in java. oh fuck.
this is like the os x one. apple switches to unix. yeay! they'll be using the freebsd variant as a base. yeay! they're designing a proprietary gui. oh fuck. and in the end os x came out great, except that it was hard for the ***typical*** end user to gain access to *thousands* of x applications. think where we'd be if apple put their minds to improving x11.
what is with this urge to do things almost right, but to screw it up in a way that will hurt things in the end.
passports have a 10 year life (at the most, you can get a 5 year passport if iirc). assume that 6 million passports were issued per year for the past 10 years. that's 60 million. at most. total us population is something like 350 million. let's make the numbers easy and say the population is just 300 million.
so, with the numbers highly skewed in your favor, you're right: 80%, not 90%, of americans lack passports. so, 80% of americans can't easily go to countries with gsm - no great loss. and since non-us citizens can be brought before a military tribunal, it's probably not a good idea to go on holiday in the usa if you're not a citizen, so there's no need to be bummed about the lack of a gsm network.
yeah, those advantages plus the fact that i can use my gsm phone pretty much anywhere in the world except america. actually that works out well, 90% of americans don't have passports, and you'd have to be nuts to visit america as a non-citizen since you have no rights.
of course, i'm an american living overseas. less foreign workers living overseas means less work being done in america which means more taxes and income going into other countries besides america. like mine.
america was built on immigrants. einstein for instance. or linus torvald - on an h1-b visa. if america doesn't want them anymore then i'm sure they can work hard at building up other countries.
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i haven't read the story yet, but i wonder if this is one case where the "new republic" might advocate federal regulation to stop companies from abusing their positions...
nah.
never happen.
a vending machine is dehumanising? are they trying to imply that working in a convenience store is not dehumanising? i suggest they go try it.
just to reply to myself, i was getting distracted by stuff as i typed. so that's why i forgot to mention lots of hard work by liam and others. this is particularly important since i shot liam in the eye with a nerf gun! sorry!
and a few irish linux users were there though i hope more will go. for those linux users in ireland who havn't been paying attention, this is your user's group.
just to mention my company's contribution, we supplied the isdn line for the first three or four days. eircom, irelands most wonderful phone company, was not able to make the isdn line work for the doolin activities center. so the internet connection was achieved by bouncing a signal to a youth hostel further into doolin and then from there up to my boss's office over his garage. the wireless gear and seup were handled by several people including the irish wan group.
our company is doolin technologies. we do linux application development and in our own odd way are responsible for about half a million people using linux in ireland each week. if you ever visit (or live in) ireland and get a mobile phone or long distance top-up code from an alphyra (formerly itg) credit card terminal, you've just used linux. and perl and mysql actually.
if anyone is in ireland up to this saturday, get down to doolin. it's great fun down there. and if you're an annoyed eircom customer, might i recommend the odtr as a place you might be able to direct your complaint.
justify that 50% you just yanked out of your ass.
in reading your article, one word kept running through my head: twink. you either lied, misled, or posted out of ignorance. lame.
here's a concept: people move. i moved from the us to europe and i'm not alone. likewise people move from europe to america. what happens to our dvd collections? are we just supposed to buy our collection again? and if we are supposed to do that, what do we do with our old dvd's? i thought they didn't want people selling used cd's - they're ok with us selling our old dvd's?
uh, i think you're on crack. afaik the movies are digitally encoded and then converted on the fly to pal, ntsc or a window on your computer monitor.
good point. see http://ie.suberic.net/justalurker.com/. verizon's lawyers can feel free to look me up - just look in your handy copy of the eircom phone book for the 07 and 09 area codes.
you know, while americans try to play polititcs with this, here's a thought to consider. the us needs investment from foreign countries. my pension is invested in us stocks and yet i live in ireland. however once the market creeps up a bit, that money gets invested elsewhere.
the us gov't continues to be more and more business friendly, and yet in reality that's bad for business in most cases. if i as an investor don't see that changing, i don't put my money in. and i'm not alone.
how about this (two sources): http://www.bsdmall.com/console.html,
http://www.realweasel.com/pcivga.html.
ok, first there's mysql. their license page is rather surprising. they state that their client lib is lgpl, and yet in embedded systems it seems like they're saying it's gpl. kind of odd really - seems like they're trying to extend it.
second is cygwin. they apparently release their libs under the gpl. the folks who made the readline library did the same thing. however many people who code libraries license them under the lgpl - you don't need to gpl the code that uses the libs, but you do need to lgpl the changes you add to the library. an example of this is the gnu libc which pretty much all applications link to.
lastly is tivo. it is my understanding that the tivo uses some closed source drivers. the gpl'ed linux kernel specifically allows closed source modules under certain conditions. in addition the kernel's gpl license has *zero* effect on applications that run under it. so if tivo has some application that run under linux, those applications can be closed source, bsd licensed or gpl'd.
this "viral gpl" thing gets overly hyped. the project with the largest body of source on most linux boxes is not under the gpl - the x window system is not under the gpl. the most common browser up to a few years ago was closed source. a lot of low-level utils on a linux box are licensed under the bsd license.
as far as "the gpl hasn't been tested in court" bit is just silly. most contracts haven't been tested in court. the gpl is spelled out both in plain english and legalese.
ok, how else to you describe people who state things as facts when there are actual, real world examples of the exact opposite? i know moral relativism, and the idea that everyone has a right to speak is all the rage, but the fact is, the guy was talking out of his ass. after all, i have the right to speak as well, correct? i suppose i could say, "he was stating things as facts that were obviously incorrect," but i thought i'd save a few chars.
and i didn't give a "pro-gpl rant." i said right from the beginning that both licenses had strengths and weaknesses. but the "can't use the gpl in embedded devices," is such a tired, lame, and provably wrong ancient chestnut spewed from pro-bsd people. and i should mention, usually not from bsd advocates with any level of a clue.
no, that's also bullshit. quit talking out of your ass. the example i gave, tivo, has closed source software written by tivo.
in the case of mysql, very, very few people write code that links in directly to mysql. if someone uses the c api to write a mysql client application, they can distribute that code as closed, bsd, gpl, or whatever licensed software. and that's true if it is embedded, on a server, on a desktop or printed out on punch cards and stapled to your ass.
either learn the facts or quit posting, because all you're doing right now is spreading misinformation.
i looked into sapdb over a year ago. it was hard to install. it lacked good perl support. those are both pretty huge issues.
i do find free software db's amusing though. they tend to be easier to install and manage then the closed source alternatives.
that's a neat trick - being able to talk out of your ass.
listen sport, you can use gpl in embedded systems. you've heard of the tivo, right?
there are differences between bsd and the gpl. and they have different strengths. but it would be really nice if bsd advocates would quit being such twats.
no, zimbabwe would have an agriculture industry. however it would essentially owe a tax to the gm corn company from every farmer in zimbabwe.
isn't private industry great! no more of this progressive tax system from icky governments, no, private industry loves leeching on starving people to enable people in richer, developed countries to send their kids to college and see friends on an even bigger tv.
it just makes ya proud, don't it?
sigh.
x is a resource hog? prove it.
wait, pda's are low power, low mem devices and you say they have no need for the remote display ability of x? really?
assume that a low memory foot print version of an x-server exists (and you should assume this since it actually does exist). assume your pda has a wireless card and a color screen (because many do). and let's say you're a web designer and you're in a meeting with just your pda and for some reason you need to do up a quick logo. so you fire off the gimp from your high powered desktop box and hae it display on your pda. you do up a quick logo using some gimp scripts and effects and then pass it around.
there, that's one use for remote display. now use you imagination and fill in the other 1 million cases where gui requirements are small and the stuff behind the gui are highly cpu and/or memory intensive. wait, i forgot java, make that 10 million cases...
apparently this is the website of the county clerk quoted in the houston cronicle story. since /. failed to get info from him, perhaps we could each drop him an email to find out the other side of the story.
however, i do note that the county attorney seems a little selective in what laws he wants enforced.
i really hate this. tech announcements that seem good, but then suck.
apple and sun team up. yeay! to port open office to os x. yeay! in java. oh fuck.
this is like the os x one. apple switches to unix. yeay! they'll be using the freebsd variant as a base. yeay! they're designing a proprietary gui. oh fuck. and in the end os x came out great, except that it was hard for the ***typical*** end user to gain access to *thousands* of x applications. think where we'd be if apple put their minds to improving x11.
what is with this urge to do things almost right, but to screw it up in a way that will hurt things in the end.
passports have a 10 year life (at the most, you can get a 5 year passport if iirc). assume that 6 million passports were issued per year for the past 10 years. that's 60 million. at most. total us population is something like 350 million. let's make the numbers easy and say the population is just 300 million.
so, with the numbers highly skewed in your favor, you're right: 80%, not 90%, of americans lack passports. so, 80% of americans can't easily go to countries with gsm - no great loss. and since non-us citizens can be brought before a military tribunal, it's probably not a good idea to go on holiday in the usa if you're not a citizen, so there's no need to be bummed about the lack of a gsm network.
yeah, those advantages plus the fact that i can use my gsm phone pretty much anywhere in the world except america. actually that works out well, 90% of americans don't have passports, and you'd have to be nuts to visit america as a non-citizen since you have no rights.
it only seems fair that after all that someone should interview ken goldberg, yes?
of course, i'm an american living overseas. less foreign workers living overseas means less work being done in america which means more taxes and income going into other countries besides america. like mine.
america was built on immigrants. einstein for instance. or linus torvald - on an h1-b visa. if america doesn't want them anymore then i'm sure they can work hard at building up other countries.