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Using this as an excuse to install carnivore. How do the ISPs know its gonna be easy to have the boxes removed later? The FBI could just keep saying "no, we need more time." Carnivore didn't help prevent this. Any communications will 99.99% definitely be encrypted.
Also, doesn't anyone think its strange that the FBI happened to find the rental car with Manuals, Notes, Videos, Names and a Koran (spelling) on the back seat? Why would someone take the risk of this behind to be discovered in time to stop the hi-jacking? if they spent so long training why would they need to bring a flight manual? for last minute cramming? and why would they bring a video tape? did they have a player? As for the Koran, wouldn't they bring that with them on the plane? This all looks extremely dodgy. Anyone planning something on this scale wouldn't be so sloppy and unprofessional.
You lot will never get proper revenge for this because the hi-jackers are already dead. They were prepared to kill themselves for the cause and their plan has worked. If Bin Laden and/or the Taliban are responsible, then they will kill themselves (and probably take others with them) before being caught.
Theres nothing you can do to stop this happening again.
- If you ban all hand-luggauge on planes, they'll hide it up their asses (ROFL south park.. LOL:).
- If you ban asses, they'll use their bare hands to break peoples necks.
- If you separate the pilots cabins, they'll train for years as pilots real, join the airline and strike when the time comes (like EgyptAir).
- You can step up security at your airports to stop bombs in the luggage, but they'll put bombs on the plane at their own airports.
- You can't circle your cities with fighters for ever, and you can't expect people to live with having SAMs aimed at them whenever they fly, just waiting to fire if the plane goes of course.
They can sent bomb filled 747's as normal passenger planes and you won't know until its too late.
This _will_ happen again. Maybe next tuesday at 9 (10 central) Only on Fox.
What i ment is that anyone who starts a project and produces something good, if the corporations want it, they will pay anything to get. If i had written Axogon i would have sold it too. The point is, whats stopping other free projects from doing this?.. Thats why i just use warez...
Isn't that the same thing that happened to Axagon Composer?? it was written by a couple of students but was seriously capable of going up against Adobe After Effects. They then decided to stop giving it away free, and start selling.. basically they were sellouts. Is B2K a sellout too? its GPL'ed though... so the source is still good, so who cares if they've stopped developing - just carry on developing a new fork.
If on the other hand, they've been warned to stop Mafia style. The people doing the warning are basically saying "we don't mind you producing software that competes with ours or is even better, as long as you flog it for a sh*t load of cash so we can flog ours for a sh*t load of cash too. But, if you have the f*cking nerve to write great software and actually dare to give it away free, your gonna put us out of business 'cos we're flogging it for squid, and your not and we're crap etc.. etc.. so either charge money for your software like a Ferengi (spelling?) or drop it, else big dave here's gonna do you in. CAPISH?!!
If the above is the case, then there is something pretty wrong. That, the DMCA, and the SSSCA proves with out a doubt that all the politicians in your government are actually the owners/major-shareholders of all your biggest corporations. So, as big dave would say: your all well and truly ****ed.
Im sure it would give advertisers a better chance to piss you off. Especially if everythings physically real like in the holodeck - "please register this program, the override and safety protocols have been locked out, note the walls are closing in on you. To pay, simply scream as loud as possible, and your voice print will be taken as id for the credit transfer. You now have 30 seconds to pay."
Bring on the realistic shooting innocent people in the street simulations and natalie portman pr0n models!!!!!!
People just don't have the choice of not buying XP. As with most MS produce it will come pre-installed on most hardware. You'd have to go out of your way to buy a new system without windows - most people don't even know there are alternative OS's let alone be prepared to switch. People running ME/98 will most likely be tired of constant crashing etc. and will upgrade to XP. Microsoft will still have the big monopoly.. cough, market share.
People are paying for their own prison-cells. The things we saw in the development of XP (Secure music, weaning people off mp3s, raw sockets (the raw socket conspiracy theory)) are just the start, showing us what they really think.
Too right, e-money (forgive me for using the e-word, only email should have an e on it, anything else is just wrong) is a pointless gimmick that only dumb marketing people and hyped-up press could be impressed by. It serves no real purpose (i don't see carrying some paper and metal coins around as a big problem). What it does do is put all your eggs into one basket, one very fragile basket. Probably allows people to track your purchases more easily and fake money. On behalf of the UK i would like to say that we are not part of Europe, either politically or geographically, and do not share their views on the euro or e-money. Theres a reason why we live on an island.:)
I thought mp3.com was supposed to take crap.. i mean not-well-known artists and give them publicity? Thats a good idea, better than choosing 5 loosers, making them popstars and then making a program about how they made the popstars.. lol.
Anything that works on a crippled download method will die a horrible death (unless they can get a really powerful law in to stop people hacking the software and then use scare tactics and make examples to make sure no-one tries to bring down their money making machine, but then who would do that?)
So, if they're to unknown to sell cds, then what makes them think people will want to pay for their compressed mp3s?
what about distributing with all the tracks separated out - voice, instrumental etc.. so you can make fun by putting the dumb artists to even crapper backing tracks or putting the dumb backing tracks to even dumber artists (karaoke) and seeing if anyone can tell the difference...
Yes, but in England, we don't have stupid laws that allow you to be arrested for writing (what was effectively a "print screen and then page down" program (yes i know it didn't do that but _effectively_ it did) in _another_ country! And after seeing its effects hopefully even the dumb Blair will figure out whats right.
And don't write a reply to this mentioning our gun laws lol...
The internet is not a broadcast medium. its not designed like radio - the more people listening the more it costs. The people at the top are the dumb ones.
Levis and Nike are surprised that their new marketing plan has fallen through: They hoped selling the counter-fit merchandise they had recovered from raids would be popular.
Plan: make new music format thats such high quality (uncompressed, surround sound, 88Khz, 32-bit) that no-one will want to download the crap versions off the internet... or just put 500 cd-quality tracks on it.
-"the start of Media World Broadcasting Ltd's (MWB) quest to raise $26.5m (A$50m) to develop what it claims is the Holy Grail of VoD."
Lets start by picking this apart. Firstly, if he's already perfected this technology (software) why does he need $26.5m (A$50)? especially when software is not exactly the most costly thing to experiment with...
The holy grail of VoD? yes and also the holy grail of jpeg replacement and not to mention what this could do to replace mp3!! but no, no mention of this area which could make infinatly more money than a few people watching movies...
-""We would not be in this if we were not 110% sure that the technology works," MWB chief executive John Tatoulis told Screendaily, admitting to feeling a bit like a snake oil salesman."
Yep, you summed it up - your not in it, your on an island somewhere trying to get some cash, and you are a snake oil salesman.
How do they expect us to believe this crap with out in a photo of people watching a screen - come on you could easily fake that..
Therefore, the article is fake or someones been screwing screendaily
What if we were talking about water instead of data:
There is an [almost] infinite amount of water (there are an infinite amount of combinations of binary sequences) and you needed a container (a cd,dvd,hd etc. vs. tank or cup) to store a decent amount (more than you could store in your cupped hands or remember in your head). Water is free to anyone - as long as its in a public place (the sea/oceans) if someone takes some water home thats fine, you can't get at it (if i write a document and store it on my computer you cant get at it). but they could get a simarlar amount of water. (yes i know the analogy isn't perfect). If someone starts selling water, generally they are selling the cost of transport (to tank it or pipe it to my home) plus whatever they've done to clean it. But if people start taking ownership of water by say colouring it with dye and taking legal action against anyone who tries to resell that water it would be mad. (watermarking data).
There's all sorts of stuff i've left out of this, but generally if i come up (independently) with a random bin sequence which just happens to match someone else's copyrighted sequence how do you deal with it?
Release a virus, trojan, gatorware whatever... that installs an ad busting proxy... I'd love to see the effects of such a thing and watch as the entire web advertising industry goes down overnight. (except slashdot and some warez sites etc.) lol:-)
oh dear, i'm gonna get flamed and modded for that one.. oh well, there goes my karma.
"a Metropolis optimization algorithm"?
sounds like something from superman:)
can i remap my pc keyboard to do this? (maybe i should get a blank keyboard fisrt). Its about time we started using a keyboard thats designed to _help_ us find the keys instead of slowing us down... (ie QWERTY)
Heres a dumb idea, Record _decent_ music at very high quality say 88KHz 24bit 4-Channel surround sound. Put it, (with no lossy compression, stupid copy protection or annoying no-fast forward devices etc.) onto a big disk (those 50gb multilayer things that are in experimental stage). Do something similar with Movies and music videos etc. Sell at a reasonable price (the standard formula is ([Production Cost] / [Expected No. Of Sales]) + Reasonable profit. Don't piss off your valuable customers by imposing taxes/monopolies/artificial pricing.
I'd rather by a decent high-quality sound than wait for an mp3 to download...
At the moment i buy my linux distro so i don't have to download several cds. If my connection gets faster, i might download instead. If connections get faster, the recording industry should pack more higher quality data onto their media to persuade me to keep on buying...
The MPAA or who-ever is in charge will keep the media prices high after DeCSS. I don't see any other reason why they should be expensive, yes i know cdrs were but thats different, dvdrs are probably produced in the same factories with little modification to the machinery (anyone know about this?). Anyway, dvd sucks - 1.44 floppy for many people was replaced by cd-r: 1.44Mb vs. 640Mb is a big difference. 640Mb vs. 4-5Gb dvd is not. What happens in about 4 years when 4Gb is worth nothing? or when HDTV _finally_ makes an appearance but no-one can fit it on their disks (with out compressing it down or shrinking the image lol)
Surely these evil people should be sued by Microsoft under the lovely DMCA for being so smart? I'm just glad Microsoft don't run anything important like government sites... oh, um, yes, the uk government.
Maybe i'm wrong, but cant someone just jam a signal pretty easily?. Even if its illegal know ones going to catch them if they do it for a few mins then move around the city.. come to think of it that would be true of mobile phones too.. and police and other services, and air-traffic control - why, i could take over the WORLD!!! BA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAA... well, maybe just one city anyway.
The list of dumb ideas from dumb people hall of fame:
-CSS (if i can see it i can copy it)
-SDMI (they should have learnt from css)
-CPRM (the hard drive protection)
-That thing to disable electronics with GPS
-DMCA (not such a dumb idea as an evil one)
-SafeAudio (cut off your nose to spite your face but didn't work)
-WMA (we want to wean people off mp3 and onto superior digital rights management)
-DivX (the company)
-eBook (rot-13)
-Renting films (you cant rent data. period.)
Anything More?
Most companies have some sort of technical advisor/analyst/window-cleaner who can tell them if an idea is dumb or not. Obviously these studios don't. This is _very_ serious, these people along with those responsible for the list above, are making business decisions everyday. Its plainly obvious to see that something is very wrong here so i have come up with some possible explanations:
1. They are on crack or some other expensive narcotic and need money to keep the habit growing.
2. They have been abducted and replaced by aliens who have no business experience.
3. They never went to harverd etc.. and just lied their ways into high positions and now they don't know what to do.
4. They are just really really really dumb.
5. They actually have a plan and all these seamingly dumb ideas somehow fit together to produce something big that we couldn't possibly figure out.
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Using this as an excuse to install carnivore. How do the ISPs know its gonna be easy to have the boxes removed later? The FBI could just keep saying "no, we need more time." Carnivore didn't help prevent this. Any communications will 99.99% definitely be encrypted.
Also, doesn't anyone think its strange that the FBI happened to find the rental car with Manuals, Notes, Videos, Names and a Koran (spelling) on the back seat? Why would someone take the risk of this behind to be discovered in time to stop the hi-jacking? if they spent so long training why would they need to bring a flight manual? for last minute cramming? and why would they bring a video tape? did they have a player? As for the Koran, wouldn't they bring that with them on the plane? This all looks extremely dodgy. Anyone planning something on this scale wouldn't be so sloppy and unprofessional.
You lot will never get proper revenge for this because the hi-jackers are already dead. They were prepared to kill themselves for the cause and their plan has worked. If Bin Laden and/or the Taliban are responsible, then they will kill themselves (and probably take others with them) before being caught.
Theres nothing you can do to stop this happening again.
- If you ban all hand-luggauge on planes, they'll hide it up their asses (ROFL south park.. LOL:).
- If you ban asses, they'll use their bare hands to break peoples necks.
- If you separate the pilots cabins, they'll train for years as pilots real, join the airline and strike when the time comes (like EgyptAir).
- You can step up security at your airports to stop bombs in the luggage, but they'll put bombs on the plane at their own airports.
- You can't circle your cities with fighters for ever, and you can't expect people to live with having SAMs aimed at them whenever they fly, just waiting to fire if the plane goes of course.
They can sent bomb filled 747's as normal passenger planes and you won't know until its too late.
This _will_ happen again. Maybe next tuesday at 9 (10 central) Only on Fox.
worldtradecenterplanecrash.com is unavailiable on networksolutions.com but the whois record doesn't exist...
worldtradecenternomore.com is available
goodbyeworldtradecenter.com is available
SHIT!!! i just thought of this but its probably too late by now: imagine all the domains you could buy on thi, and sell to the highest bidder.
What i ment is that anyone who starts a project and produces something good, if the corporations want it, they will pay anything to get. If i had written Axogon i would have sold it too. The point is, whats stopping other free projects from doing this?.. Thats why i just use warez...
I don't think it was gpl. I also mispelt it - its axogon not axagon... maybe that was your google prob. I have an old 0.9x version (binary) i think
Isn't that the same thing that happened to Axagon Composer?? it was written by a couple of students but was seriously capable of going up against Adobe After Effects. They then decided to stop giving it away free, and start selling.. basically they were sellouts. Is B2K a sellout too? its GPL'ed though... so the source is still good, so who cares if they've stopped developing - just carry on developing a new fork.
If on the other hand, they've been warned to stop Mafia style. The people doing the warning are basically saying "we don't mind you producing software that competes with ours or is even better, as long as you flog it for a sh*t load of cash so we can flog ours for a sh*t load of cash too. But, if you have the f*cking nerve to write great software and actually dare to give it away free, your gonna put us out of business 'cos we're flogging it for squid, and your not and we're crap etc.. etc.. so either charge money for your software like a Ferengi (spelling?) or drop it, else big dave here's gonna do you in. CAPISH?!!
If the above is the case, then there is something pretty wrong. That, the DMCA, and the SSSCA proves with out a doubt that all the politicians in your government are actually the owners/major-shareholders of all your biggest corporations. So, as big dave would say: your all well and truly ****ed.
-tfga
CSS (DVD)
DivX (the old disk)
SDMI
SafeAudio
CueCat
Cactus
WMA
CPRM (the HD copy protection)
DMCA
SSSCA
Anymore?
Don't complain about gun laws in the UK when you have more problems with mentally handicapped politicians and corporations...
Im sure it would give advertisers a better chance to piss you off. Especially if everythings physically real like in the holodeck - "please register this program, the override and safety protocols have been locked out, note the walls are closing in on you. To pay, simply scream as loud as possible, and your voice print will be taken as id for the credit transfer. You now have 30 seconds to pay."
Bring on the realistic shooting innocent people in the street simulations and natalie portman pr0n models!!!!!!
People just don't have the choice of not buying XP. As with most MS produce it will come pre-installed on most hardware. You'd have to go out of your way to buy a new system without windows - most people don't even know there are alternative OS's let alone be prepared to switch. People running ME/98 will most likely be tired of constant crashing etc. and will upgrade to XP. Microsoft will still have the big monopoly.. cough, market share.
People are paying for their own prison-cells. The things we saw in the development of XP (Secure music, weaning people off mp3s, raw sockets (the raw socket conspiracy theory)) are just the start, showing us what they really think.
Too right, e-money (forgive me for using the e-word, only email should have an e on it, anything else is just wrong) is a pointless gimmick that only dumb marketing people and hyped-up press could be impressed by. It serves no real purpose (i don't see carrying some paper and metal coins around as a big problem). What it does do is put all your eggs into one basket, one very fragile basket. Probably allows people to track your purchases more easily and fake money. On behalf of the UK i would like to say that we are not part of Europe, either politically or geographically, and do not share their views on the euro or e-money. Theres a reason why we live on an island. :)
-tfga
I thought mp3.com was supposed to take crap.. i mean not-well-known artists and give them publicity? Thats a good idea, better than choosing 5 loosers, making them popstars and then making a program about how they made the popstars.. lol.
Anything that works on a crippled download method will die a horrible death (unless they can get a really powerful law in to stop people hacking the software and then use scare tactics and make examples to make sure no-one tries to bring down their money making machine, but then who would do that?)
So, if they're to unknown to sell cds, then what makes them think people will want to pay for their compressed mp3s?
-tfga
what about distributing with all the tracks separated out - voice, instrumental etc.. so you can make fun by putting the dumb artists to even crapper backing tracks or putting the dumb backing tracks to even dumber artists (karaoke) and seeing if anyone can tell the difference...
Yes, but in England, we don't have stupid laws that allow you to be arrested for writing (what was effectively a "print screen and then page down" program (yes i know it didn't do that but _effectively_ it did) in _another_ country! And after seeing its effects hopefully even the dumb Blair will figure out whats right.
And don't write a reply to this mentioning our gun laws lol...
The internet is not a broadcast medium. its not designed like radio - the more people listening the more it costs. The people at the top are the dumb ones.
Levis and Nike are surprised that their new marketing plan has fallen through: They hoped selling the counter-fit merchandise they had recovered from raids would be popular.
Plan: make new music format thats such high quality (uncompressed, surround sound, 88Khz, 32-bit) that no-one will want to download the crap versions off the internet... or just put 500 cd-quality tracks on it.
-"the start of Media World Broadcasting Ltd's (MWB) quest to raise $26.5m (A$50m) to develop what it claims is the Holy Grail of VoD."
Lets start by picking this apart. Firstly, if he's already perfected this technology (software) why does he need $26.5m (A$50)? especially when software is not exactly the most costly thing to experiment with...
The holy grail of VoD? yes and also the holy grail of jpeg replacement and not to mention what this could do to replace mp3!! but no, no mention of this area which could make infinatly more money than a few people watching movies...
-""We would not be in this if we were not 110% sure that the technology works," MWB chief executive John Tatoulis told Screendaily, admitting to feeling a bit like a snake oil salesman."
Yep, you summed it up - your not in it, your on an island somewhere trying to get some cash, and you are a snake oil salesman.
How do they expect us to believe this crap with out in a photo of people watching a screen - come on you could easily fake that..
Therefore, the article is fake or someones been screwing screendaily
-tfga
yeah, looking back, it was a shit analogy. I was just trying to be a karma whore..
-tfga
Don't know if anyone's said this yet...
What if we were talking about water instead of data:
There is an [almost] infinite amount of water (there are an infinite amount of combinations of binary sequences) and you needed a container (a cd,dvd,hd etc. vs. tank or cup) to store a decent amount (more than you could store in your cupped hands or remember in your head). Water is free to anyone - as long as its in a public place (the sea/oceans) if someone takes some water home thats fine, you can't get at it (if i write a document and store it on my computer you cant get at it). but they could get a simarlar amount of water. (yes i know the analogy isn't perfect). If someone starts selling water, generally they are selling the cost of transport (to tank it or pipe it to my home) plus whatever they've done to clean it. But if people start taking ownership of water by say colouring it with dye and taking legal action against anyone who tries to resell that water it would be mad. (watermarking data).
There's all sorts of stuff i've left out of this, but generally if i come up (independently) with a random bin sequence which just happens to match someone else's copyrighted sequence how do you deal with it?
-tfga
Release a virus, trojan, gatorware whatever... that installs an ad busting proxy... I'd love to see the effects of such a thing and watch as the entire web advertising industry goes down overnight. (except slashdot and some warez sites etc.) lol :-)
oh dear, i'm gonna get flamed and modded for that one.. oh well, there goes my karma.
"a Metropolis optimization algorithm"? :)
sounds like something from superman
can i remap my pc keyboard to do this? (maybe i should get a blank keyboard fisrt). Its about time we started using a keyboard thats designed to _help_ us find the keys instead of slowing us down... (ie QWERTY)
Heres a dumb idea, Record _decent_ music at very high quality say 88KHz 24bit 4-Channel surround sound. Put it, (with no lossy compression, stupid copy protection or annoying no-fast forward devices etc.) onto a big disk (those 50gb multilayer things that are in experimental stage). Do something similar with Movies and music videos etc. Sell at a reasonable price (the standard formula is ([Production Cost] / [Expected No. Of Sales]) + Reasonable profit. Don't piss off your valuable customers by imposing taxes/monopolies/artificial pricing.
I'd rather by a decent high-quality sound than wait for an mp3 to download...
At the moment i buy my linux distro so i don't have to download several cds. If my connection gets faster, i might download instead. If connections get faster, the recording industry should pack more higher quality data onto their media to persuade me to keep on buying...
-tfga
Isnt that like using VHS to record SVHS?
The MPAA or who-ever is in charge will keep the media prices high after DeCSS. I don't see any other reason why they should be expensive, yes i know cdrs were but thats different, dvdrs are probably produced in the same factories with little modification to the machinery (anyone know about this?). Anyway, dvd sucks - 1.44 floppy for many people was replaced by cd-r: 1.44Mb vs. 640Mb is a big difference. 640Mb vs. 4-5Gb dvd is not. What happens in about 4 years when 4Gb is worth nothing? or when HDTV _finally_ makes an appearance but no-one can fit it on their disks (with out compressing it down or shrinking the image lol)
-tfga
Surely these evil people should be sued by Microsoft under the lovely DMCA for being so smart? I'm just glad Microsoft don't run anything important like government sites... oh, um, yes, the uk government.
-tfga
Maybe i'm wrong, but cant someone just jam a signal pretty easily?. Even if its illegal know ones going to catch them if they do it for a few mins then move around the city.. come to think of it that would be true of mobile phones too.. and police and other services, and air-traffic control - why, i could take over the WORLD!!! BA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAA... well, maybe just one city anyway.
-tfga
The list of dumb ideas from dumb people hall of fame:
-CSS (if i can see it i can copy it)
-SDMI (they should have learnt from css)
-CPRM (the hard drive protection)
-That thing to disable electronics with GPS
-DMCA (not such a dumb idea as an evil one)
-SafeAudio (cut off your nose to spite your face but didn't work)
-WMA (we want to wean people off mp3 and onto superior digital rights management)
-DivX (the company)
-eBook (rot-13)
-Renting films (you cant rent data. period.)
Anything More?
Most companies have some sort of technical advisor/analyst/window-cleaner who can tell them if an idea is dumb or not. Obviously these studios don't. This is _very_ serious, these people along with those responsible for the list above, are making business decisions everyday. Its plainly obvious to see that something is very wrong here so i have come up with some possible explanations:
1. They are on crack or some other expensive narcotic and need money to keep the habit growing.
2. They have been abducted and replaced by aliens who have no business experience.
3. They never went to harverd etc.. and just lied their ways into high positions and now they don't know what to do.
4. They are just really really really dumb.
5. They actually have a plan and all these seamingly dumb ideas somehow fit together to produce something big that we couldn't possibly figure out.
-tfga