1) Try and push adverts on people who dont want to see them and who know how to use ad-blockers
2) ??
3) Profit?
No! it bloody well doesnt work! collecting underpants ins one thing, living through 100's of 1),2),3) Profit jokes on slashdot is another, but this is total crack induced stupidity! At what point does that business model make any sense? how much of the most poor quality shit do you have to smoke before your brain is so totally mind-fucked that it can bend the logic round and say "yes this is a good idea and will not piss people off at your company"!?
I dont know why i bother replying to this crap, maybe its a sense of needing to feel the winner?
Irrelevant. Entering private property without permission (in this case, against an express prohibition) is trespassing whether or not you deliberately remove anything you find there (if you do, you commit an additional crime of theft, but it's a separate issue).
You are not entering private property, and if you want to equate a packet on your network to a person, then the real-life version would be you walking into the public reception of a building where members of the
public can enter and giving the receptionist an envelope. Or it would be similar to posting in someones letter box.
If you enter the building once and are thrown out and told never to come back then yes you can say that you personally cannot enter that building without trespassing.
A filter is not an access control mechanism and bypassing it is no different to bypassing a door-man at a club by actually dressing well. If you come in scraggy clothes you wont get let in, if you come dressed smart you could still be intending to cause trouble, but he'll let you in!
Unauthorised access means you or something you can control or pre-program can interact with a system or place. If you enter the private part of a building thats access, if you drop a robot on a remote control through a letter box thats also unauthorised access, so is using a virus, trojan, spyware or script to allow you to interect with a system.
erm to quote my-self: The only unathorised thing you could do is flood one system with emails and that would count as a DoS attack.
if someone sends you 1 junk email (if you get 100 from 100 different sources then thats tough) its no problem. If someone sends you allot of junk emails then its a DoS attack.
"the same arguments that ?we? wank about every day"
erm i think there might be a subtle difference between what wank means in britain and what wank means over in america?! or maybe copyright law is a new fetish?
This isnt cracking! getting around an anti 'fuck' filter by typing 'f.u.c.k' is not cracking, trying to send someone an email is not cracking. This isnt gaining unauthorised access - you cannot gain any information from someones computer just by sending an email (attaching vb-script worms or seeing if the mail server bounces doesnt count) you cannot damage a computer by sending an email. The only unathorised thing you could do is flood one system with emails and that would count as a DoS attack. Spammers may be a sub-species of basterds and dont get me wrong i'd have fun capping them all, but you cant make being a basterd illigal on its own!
I think its time to stop this bullshit and wake up. Email is a medium where anyone can contact anyone else without prior permission. Therefore fundamentally you will get spam. If you want the system to allow anyone to email anyone else then you will get people emailing you things you dont want. No-one likes it, but thats how it is, and how ever hard you try and stop it by giving a computer the task of filtering mail someone will find a way around that, how-ever carefully you design a system so that the source of a message can be guaranteed, someone will abuse the system, get hold of a "certificate" and keep moving around! If you make it cost money, people will will start using different incompatable systems ? some free, some not. If you make laws, spam will come from other countries. If you make laws, people will take advantage of them and start suing everyone, and finally, if you make laws then you're going to stop someone somewhere from doing something good. If you want you can swap email addresses with people you want to talk to and only have mail from those addresses come through. You can use feed-back forms on your websites, and even human-checking "type the number you see" or "if jack is a red dog, what colour is he?" systems. Telemarketing is only slightly different in that the telephone network is more controlled and its more costly to hire lots of people to call 1000's than to get one computer to email millions. When you're on the bus and some weird guy comes up to you and starts talking about the alien race of chicken people you might not like it but you can always walk away, use a car, or carry a gun. Email might suffer from spam, but look at the advantages: its free, its globally recognised and compatible, and it doesn't need a central monopolistic system that could be open to abuse.
Yes but is it 'ethical'? maybe its as ethical/unethical as filesharing, in which case, whats the difference? you get the same end result! filesharing is more convenient. But ofcourse I only know that from watching other people use filesharing apps, id never use one myself!
It makes perfect sense - the RIAA will be pissed off as hell with Russia, but in the end, an entire country and its government is far more powerful than the crappy RIAA - they actually _do_ have an army, not just some guys that jump out at you in a parking lot with RIAA jackets. All i can say is GO RUSSIA! - where the music industry listens to you, not the other way around:P Also the idea of selling by some unit - eg MB is more appealing somehow, i dont know why, and choosing format just rocks!
I think the system as a whole is just wrong - bipartisan, one leader, policies.. Its been used throughout the world and it doesn't really work. A president should be as close as possible to totally impartial - like a judge, shouldn't be concerned about election campaigns and how much money or support from various corporations is gained and certainly shouldn't be some rich daddy's boy who got him self up the ladder barely lifting a finger. Also if people want a voice they have to bloody well go out and vote, there should be a referendum at least once a year where the major issues are voted on - if your too lazy to figure out what to vote for, just choose the "i vote for my favorite politician/parties opinion"
This sounds good to get things working in the short term, and for US distro's where reverse engineering to by-pass copy-protection isnt allowed, but surely in the long term its better to reverse engineer formats if companies wont release specs or code?
Honda has found that technicians are saving about 40% in terms of the time spent working on engines, saving the company an estimated $2,000 per month per technician.
2000 = 40% of 5000, so techicians are worth only $5000 a month?!?!
When i first read that i read "lasers burning the images directly onto the retina" now im just really put-off the idea, marketing tip: don't use words that sound like bad words.
Since the only "copy protection" that can be violated while engaged in sexual intercourse would be a condom, the DMCA would not apply (I would also contend that sex is an analog function, not a digital one, unless you're going the grope). Circumventing this form of copy protection, while inconvenient in the long term, is only illegal if one person engaged in intercourse is knowingly HIV-positive.
I think you miss understood the question, what I want to know is if i can for example sexually violate - ie rape the official Congress document of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act at the same time as having sex with someone else (i.e bringing orgies into the legal debate), and does it make any difference if the 'legal guardian/owner' of said document gave me permission. Given the vagueness of Floria laws im kinda confused.
Talking in your sleep, at least with the depth and detail needed, is highly unlikely, and hard to prove.
What if its recorded? examples include: taking part in sleep research experiments, government surveillance, or just being curious what i say - now are these tapes illigal?
Im gonna get modded down for sure but no-one here care about sex when they were a teenager? sure geeky things are important but the priority list goes: "girls, geeking, getting around to world domination" and come to think of it casting spells does seem a little more tragic than even kernal configuration!
I like the use of depth and human-like expression to tell the story. The birds in the background represent the market share of office applications. Their dark contrasting form gives the impression of dark corporate interest, while the happy bird with a fish under his arm is portraying a friendly Open Office standing out from the crowd and 'catching a fish'. The fish here is certainly a metaphor for the user, and while it might at first appear that the user has been 'abucted' or 'fished' in a negative connotation, it becomes obvious that instead the bird has taken the user under its wing so to speak. The fish happily looks at the 'ok' gesture - a symbol of the user interface.
Haha!! back at'ya like cleo-patra! Bo! uhuh uhuh yeah! in your face! in your face! in your face like a can of mace! oh man you guys got served! you got served bad! its on!
1) If I link to a site that links to a site that has DMCA violating speech, does that mean my site is violating aswell? what about google? If so, how far does this chain go?
2) What if someone links to a google cache?
3) Can I say DMCA violating things to my lawyer? What about to a public court?
4) If I violate the DMCA outside America, will the FBI trick me into going to Rome and then drug me and take me back to the USA?
5) If I say something that violates the DMCA on national TV will viewers be breaking the law by watching, and will Tivo be breaking the law by recording it? will these people also require a trial?
6) If I wear DMCA violating clothing can the police confiscate it if it means i would be breaking public nudity laws? (ie it could be underwear too)
7) Im i allowed to violate the DMCA while engaged in sexual intercourse in the state of Florida? What if its consensual?
8) When praying, is it ok to attempt to tell God that the shift key will disable some CD copy-protection systems?
9) On violating the DMCA, certain evidence would be submitted to court, such as video/audio tapes containing said violation. Who owns this evidence, who can see it and how does the freedom of information act apply to it?
10) I thought of a way to circumnavigate X device, am I liable under the DMCA if the thought is in my head? what would happen if i talked about it in my sleep? Could i write about it in a private diary? an online journal? a letter?
Slashdot Mirror
1) Try and push adverts on people who dont want to see them and who know how to use ad-blockers
2) ??
3) Profit?
No! it bloody well doesnt work! collecting underpants ins one thing, living through 100's of 1),2),3) Profit jokes on slashdot is another, but this is total crack induced stupidity! At what point does that business model make any sense? how much of the most poor quality shit do you have to smoke before your brain is so totally mind-fucked that it can bend the logic round and say "yes this is a good idea and will not piss people off at your company"!?
Irrelevant. Entering private property without permission (in this case, against an express prohibition) is trespassing whether or not you deliberately remove anything you find there (if you do, you commit an additional crime of theft, but it's a separate issue).
You are not entering private property, and if you want to equate a packet on your network to a person, then the real-life version would be you walking into the public reception of a building where members of the
public can enter and giving the receptionist an envelope. Or it would be similar to posting in someones letter box.
If you enter the building once and are thrown out and told never to come back then yes you can say that you personally cannot enter that building without trespassing.
A filter is not an access control mechanism and bypassing it is no different to bypassing a door-man at a club by actually dressing well. If you come in scraggy clothes you wont get let in, if you come dressed smart you could still be intending to cause trouble, but he'll let you in!
Unauthorised access means you or something you can control or pre-program can interact with a system or place. If you enter the private part of a building thats access, if you drop a robot on a remote control through a letter box thats also unauthorised access, so is using a virus, trojan, spyware or script to allow you to interect with a system.
erm to quote my-self:
The only unathorised thing you could do is flood one system with emails and that would count as a DoS attack.
if someone sends you 1 junk email (if you get 100 from 100 different sources then thats tough) its no problem. If someone sends you allot of junk emails then its a DoS attack.
"the same arguments that ?we? wank about every day"
erm i think there might be a subtle difference between what wank means in britain and what wank means over in america?! or maybe copyright law is a new fetish?
This is comedy gold! i could just picture the scene in a sketch show!
This isnt cracking! getting around an anti 'fuck' filter by typing 'f.u.c.k' is not cracking, trying to send someone an email is not cracking. This isnt gaining unauthorised access - you cannot gain any information from someones computer just by sending an email (attaching vb-script worms or seeing if the mail server bounces doesnt count) you cannot damage a computer by sending an email. The only unathorised thing you could do is flood one system with emails and that would count as a DoS attack. Spammers may be a sub-species of basterds and dont get me wrong i'd have fun capping them all, but you cant make being a basterd illigal on its own!
I think its time to stop this bullshit and wake up. Email is a medium where anyone can contact anyone else without prior permission. Therefore fundamentally you will get spam. If you want the system to allow anyone to email anyone else then you will get people emailing you things you dont want. No-one likes it, but thats how it is, and how ever hard you try and stop it by giving a computer the task of filtering mail someone will find a way around that, how-ever carefully you design a system so that the source of a message can be guaranteed, someone will abuse the system, get hold of a "certificate" and keep moving around! If you make it cost money, people will will start using different incompatable systems ? some free, some not. If you make laws, spam will come from other countries. If you make laws, people will take advantage of them and start suing everyone, and finally, if you make laws then you're going to stop someone somewhere from doing something good. If you want you can swap email addresses with people you want to talk to and only have mail from those addresses come through. You can use feed-back forms on your websites, and even human-checking "type the number you see" or "if jack is a red dog, what colour is he?" systems. Telemarketing is only slightly different in that the telephone network is more controlled and its more costly to hire lots of people to call 1000's than to get one computer to email millions. When you're on the bus and some weird guy comes up to you and starts talking about the alien race of chicken people you might not like it but you can always walk away, use a car, or carry a gun. Email might suffer from spam, but look at the advantages: its free, its globally recognised and compatible, and it doesn't need a central monopolistic system that could be open to abuse.
Yes but is it 'ethical'? maybe its as ethical/unethical as filesharing, in which case, whats the difference? you get the same end result! filesharing is more convenient. But ofcourse I only know that from watching other people use filesharing apps, id never use one myself!
It makes perfect sense - the RIAA will be pissed off as hell with Russia, but in the end, an entire country and its government is far more powerful than the crappy RIAA - they actually _do_ have an army, not just some guys that jump out at you in a parking lot with RIAA jackets. All i can say is GO RUSSIA! - where the music industry listens to you, not the other way around :P Also the idea of selling by some unit - eg MB is more appealing somehow, i dont know why, and choosing format just rocks!
you havnt discovered p2p filesharing yet have you?
I think the system as a whole is just wrong - bipartisan, one leader, policies.. Its been used throughout the world and it doesn't really work. A president should be as close as possible to totally impartial - like a judge, shouldn't be concerned about election campaigns and how much money or support from various corporations is gained and certainly shouldn't be some rich daddy's boy who got him self up the ladder barely lifting a finger. Also if people want a voice they have to bloody well go out and vote, there should be a referendum at least once a year where the major issues are voted on - if your too lazy to figure out what to vote for, just choose the "i vote for my favorite politician/parties opinion"
This sounds good to get things working in the short term, and for US distro's where reverse engineering to by-pass copy-protection isnt allowed, but surely in the long term its better to reverse engineer formats if companies wont release specs or code?
Interested in trading? ive got 2 nuclear technicians, 3 political asylum seekers, 1 human rights activist, and a free-range chicken!
no no, in America - security blimp watching you, in soviet russia, you watch security blimp!
Usually some obscure version of the blaster worm is the first thing to be installed ;)
Honda has found that technicians are saving about 40% in terms of the time spent working on engines, saving the company an estimated $2,000 per month per technician.
2000 = 40% of 5000, so techicians are worth only $5000 a month?!?!
When i first read that i read "lasers burning the images directly onto the retina" now im just really put-off the idea, marketing tip: don't use words that sound like bad words.
Since the only "copy protection" that can be violated while engaged in sexual intercourse would be a condom, the DMCA would not apply (I would also contend that sex is an analog function, not a digital one, unless you're going the grope). Circumventing this form of copy protection, while inconvenient in the long term, is only illegal if one person engaged in intercourse is knowingly HIV-positive.
I think you miss understood the question, what I want to know is if i can for example sexually violate - ie rape the official Congress document of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act at the same time as having sex with someone else (i.e bringing orgies into the legal debate), and does it make any difference if the 'legal guardian/owner' of said document gave me permission. Given the vagueness of Floria laws im kinda confused.
Talking in your sleep, at least with the depth and detail needed, is highly unlikely, and hard to prove.
What if its recorded? examples include: taking part in sleep research experiments, government surveillance, or just being curious what i say - now are these tapes illigal?
alURbaseRbelng2us. Who-ever invented sms has caused a generation of teenagers to hack sentences down to as few characters as they can.
1st chndlier post!!!
/.ed da chndlier!
in soviet rssa,chndlier enbls U!
imgn a Bwlf clustr of thse!
dos it rn linux?
1)mke txt chndlier 2)?? 3)Profit!
hey natalie:P wna get nkd&petrfied?i got hot grits!;)
y00 d00ds we
Im gonna get modded down for sure but no-one here care about sex when they were a teenager? sure geeky things are important but the priority list goes: "girls, geeking, getting around to world domination" and come to think of it casting spells does seem a little more tragic than even kernal configuration!
I've got a hacking tool...
I like the use of depth and human-like expression to tell the story. The birds in the background represent the market share of office applications. Their dark contrasting form gives the impression of dark corporate interest, while the happy bird with a fish under his arm is portraying a friendly Open Office standing out from the crowd and 'catching a fish'. The fish here is certainly a metaphor for the user, and while it might at first appear that the user has been 'abucted' or 'fished' in a negative connotation, it becomes obvious that instead the bird has taken the user under its wing so to speak. The fish happily looks at the 'ok' gesture - a symbol of the user interface.
Haha!! back at'ya like cleo-patra! Bo!
uhuh uhuh yeah! in your face! in your face! in your face like a can of mace! oh man you guys got served! you got served bad! its on!
Ok i've got some serious questions here:
1) If I link to a site that links to a site that has DMCA violating speech, does that mean my site is violating aswell? what about google? If so, how far does this chain go?
2) What if someone links to a google cache?
3) Can I say DMCA violating things to my lawyer? What about to a public court?
4) If I violate the DMCA outside America, will the FBI trick me into going to Rome and then drug me and take me back to the USA?
5) If I say something that violates the DMCA on national TV will viewers be breaking the law by watching, and will Tivo be breaking the law by recording it? will these people also require a trial?
6) If I wear DMCA violating clothing can the police confiscate it if it means i would be breaking public nudity laws? (ie it could be underwear too)
7) Im i allowed to violate the DMCA while engaged in sexual intercourse in the state of Florida? What if its consensual?
8) When praying, is it ok to attempt to tell God that the shift key will disable some CD copy-protection systems?
9) On violating the DMCA, certain evidence would be submitted to court, such as video/audio tapes containing said violation. Who owns this evidence, who can see it and how does the freedom of information act apply to it?
10) I thought of a way to circumnavigate X device, am I liable under the DMCA if the thought is in my head? what would happen if i talked about it in my sleep? Could i write about it in a private diary? an online journal? a letter?