First, water is required for life as we know it, but the presence of water is no guarantee for life. Second, this is not a mission to determine if there are traces of life or not. Curiosity is mostly a geological mission, with an emphasis of finding out if there were ever conditions suitable to sustain life as we know it That's not anywhere near the same thing as finding proof there ever was or even if there still is life on Mars.
I never said it was a replacement for multi-touch-input.
I didn't say you said it was. What I said was the app emulating the Android device would need to know the difference between being a generic multi-touch gesture and an actual 'zoom' or you're going to get undesired behaviour.
I know you're not convinced, but that actually is a pretty compelling argument of why it's not as simple as you've made it out to be. Think about it.
I still think that it would be a suitable substitute, and yes I can write code and can think of ways to capture the mouse position and input to emulate pinch-to-zoom. What I fail to see is why anyone would want to run mobile apps on a PC, but that wasn't what we are debating. On that note, I would like to thank you for the civil debate. All too often these days/. descends into 4chan-space with regards to disagreements.
There are other fluids than water that can sustain a semicolloidal solution or carry sediments. I assume that scientists now have to figure out what fluid flowed, rather than simply assuming that it had to be water.
I take it you've never heard of Occam's Razor. Given the composition of Mars and other evidence gathered to date water is by FAR the most likely substance to have caused this.
1. The reason pinch-to-zoom works is because the other finger is defining range by human intuition. The scroll wheel does not provide even similar intuitive feedback, not to mention the ergonomics of trying to hold a button down and zoom.
2. Most scroll wheels provide clicks, not a smooth roll. (Think: the difference between integers and floats.)
Now I don't know for sure, but I'd also be willing to bet that that when an app does a pinch-to-zoom, they're not doing anything special to identify it as such. The software wouldn't know the difference bewteen "zooming' and "interpreting a gesture based on two inputs". If I'm right, then there's no way to auto-detect being able to swap the zoom gesture with a mouse + scroll wheel input. That would mean the scroll wheel would provide bizarre results for just about any Android app running on the PC.
The scroll wheel is not an alternative to multi-touch-input.
No offense but that is a weak argument. I never said it was a replacement for multi-touch-input. I said it could be a viable alternative for pinch-to-zoom, which is a subset of multi-touch. Nothing you said makes it sound like it wouldn't work. It probably wouldn't be perfect but the functionality would be there.
Pinch to zoom could easily be implemented using the scroll wheel of a mouse.
No, it can not.
For some reason I just replied to this and it didn't show. Yes, it certainly could. The position of the mouse would be the focus of the zoom and the scroll wheel would scroll in and out. Tell me why that wouldn't work.
If the drone strike won't work, he can be imprisoned indefinitely without trial. Considering his war crimes and terroristic actions could we expect any less?
Fuck you, you fascist piece of shit.
I hope you get terminal cancer this year and that it hurts a lot before you die.
That whoosh you heard was the sarcasm in the post you replied to fly right over your head, I'm fairly certain. Also, grow the fuck up.
Poor parenting? Are you serious? So the advertisers who have billions of dollars at their disposal to use science against kids, are not to blame? Yeah, the overworked (if one can find work), financially strapped, and health uninsured parent is supposed to parent well. In this context that would be supernatual parenting.
Bullshit. Plenty of poor parents managed to do a good job raising their kids. Your post is just indicative of the modern mentality that people are not responsible for their own lives and actions.
Legally it is stealing. Get over it. If you don't like it then vote, or run for office and change it. I don't really agree that it is stealing either, but that's how the law seems to treat it right now.
Regardless, he appears to be guilty of wire fraud at the very least.
No, it does not, as long as people are willing to pay for the pretty ones. The majority of diamonds that are mined are great for industrial use (drill bits, etc.) but not very nice to look at. Add to that the price fixing fostered by DeBeers, which is really just a 'legalized' organized crime ring, and diamond != diamond.
Which explains why all of my 802.11n devices have to be set to 802.11g, in order to even connect to the wireless-N router, under both XP and 7.....
That sounds like a personal problem, and I'll counter your anecdotal evidence with the fact that my own 802.11n works just fine with my Windows machines at home as well as my Macs. My linux boxes are wired except for the laptop and that's a bit older so only supports G. I have no first hand experience with Linux not working with N but this thread is not the first time I've heard such complaints.
I know better, and the AC you responded to is correct. 802.11n works just fine with Windows XP and 7. I would love it to work well with Linux too as I use several Linux machines including a laptop that would benefit from the higher bandwidth. They just haven't quite gotten the bugs out of the system yet.
It works great with OS X machines too. Are you still going to imply it isn't a Linux problem?
And the progressives, not to mention the rest of the dems just rolled over. Evil Bush! Evil Evil! We believe in civil liberties. Ha. What a joke. All you believe in is that your guy is in the white house. Not only has Obama and Dems (don't forget the house was Nancy's) failed to roll back anything of Bush/Cheney, they expanded the powers. And we won't even go down that war on drugs road....
My handy Transformer does a solid job of editing documents, more so with the keyboard dock.
Isn't there a word for tablets with keyboard docks?;)
No, there isn't, because with a laptop you can't detach the screen and use the tablet portion. On the Transformer (I have a Prime) *all* of the computing power is in the tablet portion. The dock is handy for when I want to type and edit documents, and serves as a handy extra battery, but it doesn't make it a laptop. It's also nice being able to take the tablet off the dock to use for playing tablet-centric games, reading ebooks, web surfing, etc.
Actually, yes, the capitals do make it more likely to be legally binding. IANAL, but I was recently reviewing my employment contract with a lawyer, and she explained that it is important to draw attention to arbitration clauses, and caps are one way to do that.
You need a new attorney if she told you that it makes it more likely to be legally binding. Caps are just used for emphasis and have absolutely zero bearing on the legality of a clause.
VM's are very useful for some things but they still are not a replacement for an actual box. I love them for modelling network infrastructures where I need multiple OS's talking to each other. For a lot of things I still like to rely on a physical computer.
You cannot stop spam without also stopping free speech, since both use the same methods to get their payload delivered. And at its heart, spam is just speech you don't want to hear, much like dissent is speech the government doesn't want to hear.
There is no way for a computer to reliably distinguish the two, and the only people who can are also biased and have a vested interest in their own agenda.
Bullshit. When spam is served up by compromising users PC's and running a botnet, which is how most spam is sent, it has nothing to do with free speech. Want to sent 1000 emails a day manually from your own PC? That's free speech.
As for locking people out, I agree wholeheartedly. By now even mainstream media has run story after story that should open peoples' eyes to safe computing practices. If you get infected you should be cut off until you fix the problem.
My first Linux install was Slackware on about 40 diskettes. I ftp'd them all over a weekend via my lowly 9600 baud modem. I know that sounds like I'm spinning a 'we had to walk in the snow uphill, both ways' tale but it's true.
I remember the first time I installed an OS from CDROM. I believe it was OS/2. I was amazed.
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First, water is required for life as we know it, but the presence of water is no guarantee for life. Second, this is not a mission to determine if there are traces of life or not. Curiosity is mostly a geological mission, with an emphasis of finding out if there were ever conditions suitable to sustain life as we know it That's not anywhere near the same thing as finding proof there ever was or even if there still is life on Mars.
I never said it was a replacement for multi-touch-input.
I didn't say you said it was. What I said was the app emulating the Android device would need to know the difference between being a generic multi-touch gesture and an actual 'zoom' or you're going to get undesired behaviour.
I know you're not convinced, but that actually is a pretty compelling argument of why it's not as simple as you've made it out to be. Think about it.
I still think that it would be a suitable substitute, and yes I can write code and can think of ways to capture the mouse position and input to emulate pinch-to-zoom. What I fail to see is why anyone would want to run mobile apps on a PC, but that wasn't what we are debating. On that note, I would like to thank you for the civil debate. All too often these days /. descends into 4chan-space with regards to disagreements.
There are other fluids than water that can sustain a semicolloidal solution or carry sediments. I assume that scientists now have to figure out what fluid flowed, rather than simply assuming that it had to be water.
I take it you've never heard of Occam's Razor. Given the composition of Mars and other evidence gathered to date water is by FAR the most likely substance to have caused this.
Two reasons:
1. The reason pinch-to-zoom works is because the other finger is defining range by human intuition. The scroll wheel does not provide even similar intuitive feedback, not to mention the ergonomics of trying to hold a button down and zoom.
2. Most scroll wheels provide clicks, not a smooth roll. (Think: the difference between integers and floats.)
Now I don't know for sure, but I'd also be willing to bet that that when an app does a pinch-to-zoom, they're not doing anything special to identify it as such. The software wouldn't know the difference bewteen "zooming' and "interpreting a gesture based on two inputs". If I'm right, then there's no way to auto-detect being able to swap the zoom gesture with a mouse + scroll wheel input. That would mean the scroll wheel would provide bizarre results for just about any Android app running on the PC.
The scroll wheel is not an alternative to multi-touch-input.
No offense but that is a weak argument. I never said it was a replacement for multi-touch-input. I said it could be a viable alternative for pinch-to-zoom, which is a subset of multi-touch. Nothing you said makes it sound like it wouldn't work. It probably wouldn't be perfect but the functionality would be there.
Pinch to zoom could easily be implemented using the scroll wheel of a mouse.
No, it can not.
For some reason I just replied to this and it didn't show. Yes, it certainly could. The position of the mouse would be the focus of the zoom and the scroll wheel would scroll in and out. Tell me why that wouldn't work.
Devil's advocate != sarcasm.
Except that according to the OP it was sarcasm:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3146769&cid=41482263
Pinch to zoom could easily be implemented using the scroll wheel of a mouse.
If the drone strike won't work, he can be imprisoned indefinitely without trial. Considering his war crimes and terroristic actions could we expect any less?
Fuck you, you fascist piece of shit.
I hope you get terminal cancer this year and that it hurts a lot before you die.
That whoosh you heard was the sarcasm in the post you replied to fly right over your head, I'm fairly certain. Also, grow the fuck up.
Poor parenting? Are you serious? So the advertisers who have billions of dollars at their disposal to use
science against kids, are not to blame?
Yeah, the overworked (if one can find work), financially strapped, and health uninsured parent is supposed
to parent well. In this context that would be supernatual parenting.
Bullshit. Plenty of poor parents managed to do a good job raising their kids. Your post is just indicative of the modern mentality that people are not responsible for their own lives and actions.
Humor is usually based on truth.
Yes, it is, and the truth of the matter is that the maps in iOS 6 plain suck. It was a huge step backwards.
Wouldn't surprise me. He's making 3 movies out of it. How much extraneous crap is Jackson cramming into the story in order to get 3 movies?
Also, I heard Legolas is in this. God.
That would not be implausible since he was the son of the King of the elves of Mirkwood.
Legally it is stealing. Get over it. If you don't like it then vote, or run for office and change it. I don't really agree that it is stealing either, but that's how the law seems to treat it right now.
Regardless, he appears to be guilty of wire fraud at the very least.
Or just allow for assassinations again.
Ya. Bin Laden sure was lucky we don't assassinate people anymore. /sarcasm
Or do you mean *officially* allow them again?
The policy is not to assassinate political leaders of other countries. Last time I checked Bin Laden was never one of those.
There will always be lemmings willing to pay for shiny bragging rights.
lol diamond = diamond
No, it does not, as long as people are willing to pay for the pretty ones. The majority of diamonds that are mined are great for industrial use (drill bits, etc.) but not very nice to look at. Add to that the price fixing fostered by DeBeers, which is really just a 'legalized' organized crime ring, and diamond != diamond.
" 802.11n works just fine with Windows XP and 7"
Which explains why all of my 802.11n devices have to be set to 802.11g, in order to even connect to the wireless-N router, under both XP and 7.....
That sounds like a personal problem, and I'll counter your anecdotal evidence with the fact that my own 802.11n works just fine with my Windows machines at home as well as my Macs. My linux boxes are wired except for the laptop and that's a bit older so only supports G. I have no first hand experience with Linux not working with N but this thread is not the first time I've heard such complaints.
Maybe you just don't know any better?
I know better, and the AC you responded to is correct. 802.11n works just fine with Windows XP and 7. I would love it to work well with Linux too as I use several Linux machines including a laptop that would benefit from the higher bandwidth. They just haven't quite gotten the bugs out of the system yet.
It works great with OS X machines too. Are you still going to imply it isn't a Linux problem?
And the progressives, not to mention the rest of the dems just rolled over. Evil Bush! Evil Evil! We believe in civil liberties. Ha. What a joke. All you believe in is that your guy is in the white house. Not only has Obama and Dems (don't forget the house was Nancy's) failed to roll back anything of Bush/Cheney, they expanded the powers. And we won't even go down that war on drugs road....
Pathetic.
Why are you trying to confuse people with facts?
and still managing to blame Bush. Wow.
Yep, seeing as how Obama will happily sign it as well. It would be more appropriate to blame 'despicable politicians'.
The only difference between Bush and Obama is the latter has signed off on exponentially more debt. Neither gives or gave a shit about our rights.
My handy Transformer does a solid job of editing documents, more so with the keyboard dock.
Isn't there a word for tablets with keyboard docks? ;)
No, there isn't, because with a laptop you can't detach the screen and use the tablet portion. On the Transformer (I have a Prime) *all* of the computing power is in the tablet portion. The dock is handy for when I want to type and edit documents, and serves as a handy extra battery, but it doesn't make it a laptop. It's also nice being able to take the tablet off the dock to use for playing tablet-centric games, reading ebooks, web surfing, etc.
Actually, yes, the capitals do make it more likely to be legally binding. IANAL, but I was recently reviewing my employment contract with a lawyer, and she explained that it is important to draw attention to arbitration clauses, and caps are one way to do that.
You need a new attorney if she told you that it makes it more likely to be legally binding. Caps are just used for emphasis and have absolutely zero bearing on the legality of a clause.
VM's are very useful for some things but they still are not a replacement for an actual box. I love them for modelling network infrastructures where I need multiple OS's talking to each other. For a lot of things I still like to rely on a physical computer.
In other words, your mileage may vary.
You cannot stop spam without also stopping free speech, since both use the same methods to get their payload delivered. And at its heart, spam is just speech you don't want to hear, much like dissent is speech the government doesn't want to hear.
There is no way for a computer to reliably distinguish the two, and the only people who can are also biased and have a vested interest in their own agenda.
Bullshit. When spam is served up by compromising users PC's and running a botnet, which is how most spam is sent, it has nothing to do with free speech. Want to sent 1000 emails a day manually from your own PC? That's free speech.
As for locking people out, I agree wholeheartedly. By now even mainstream media has run story after story that should open peoples' eyes to safe computing practices. If you get infected you should be cut off until you fix the problem.
My first Linux install was Slackware on about 40 diskettes. I ftp'd them all over a weekend via my lowly 9600 baud modem. I know that sounds like I'm spinning a 'we had to walk in the snow uphill, both ways' tale but it's true.
I remember the first time I installed an OS from CDROM. I believe it was OS/2. I was amazed.
Yep. We still have more ice on the planet than at other times.
Citation: Eocene.