it [Debian] can never be LSB-compliant since it doesn't use RPM packaging.
Debian is LSB-complaint, as much as anyone else is. LSB-complaint doesn't mean that you have to use RPM; it means you have to be able to install LSB packages, which happen to be a specialized subset of RPM internally, which Debian can.
Nonsense. Law is organized lynchings. Law is where people have agreed to turn over investigation and punishment to a third party so more bad guys get caught and fewer good guys get wrongfully punished. If enough people get together and decide that people can't wear dresses on Fridays, then that's the law.
There is not even an argument in this case that the defendant caused harm to anyone. The argument is that he tried to cause harm to the companies involved.
So, someone puts a gun against your head and pulls the trigger, but the gun jams, no harm, no foul, eh? Personally, I want the would-be shooter in jail so he doesn't succeed next time. In practice, if the law consistently doesn't put those people in jail, several of those people are going to find themselves the guest of honor at a lynching, as most people don't want people who would attempt murder around.
If you fail to feed your child, do you really cause him to die?
He died due to starvation while being held in an escape-proof cage (aka a crib) you put him in. Are you really claiming that someone kidnaps you and sticks you in an escape-proof cage and leaves you to starve to death, that they aren't guilty of murder along with the other charges?
You can almost always get rid of the negative; acts of omission are frequently phrased in terms of abandonment and neglect. But to steal is to take something and not pay; that act of omission is essential there.
Why? Not putting a foot on the brake is not an act. Not fixing the boiler in your apartments before it explodes killing four is not an act.
I suppose if your children were free to find food on their own, no one could accuse you of anything other than being a piss-poor parent.
Let's watch your six month old child find food on its own. If you have the right to object when someone takes your kids, surely you have the responsibility to take care of them.
Not doing something is not a crime; it isn't even an act.
So if you're coming up on a red light, and see a bunch of people crossing ahead, and don't put your foot on the break, thus running a red light and killing a half-dozen people, it's not a crime? What about if you don't feed your children? Or don't pay for the food you're taking out of the supermarket?
He claimed GNU was the "operating system" and that Linux was just the "Kernel". I find this a little specious.
Why? I remember a teacher complaining when he first bought a Unix "operating system" and didn't get a compiler with it. Even excluding the general public, I can't think of anyone who would buy an operating system and expect to get just a kernel
there are a lot of other technologies that make up the Linux "environment"
For a console system, there's no other one group that wrote a significant amount of code for the system, besides the kernel; most groups take care of one package.
why is it GNU/Linux and GNU/Hurd but not GNU/NetBSD? Does NetBSD normally get distributed with non-GNU utilities?
GNU/Linux systems use GNU Libc, Bash, and the GNU utilities. BSD systems, otoh, have their own homegrown libc, shells and utilities. About the only GNU tools standard on the BSDs are the compiler and assembler. There are a few Linux systems that don't use the GNU utils (using the BSD tools instead), like Mastadon Linux, and in theory even RMS would agree that they aren't GNU/Linuxes.
On the other hand, efficient implementations of Orthogonal Persistency just "sweep through" the entire disk while committing checkpoints writing all of the data in huge bulks. The nature of hard disks makes this approach very efficient, especially since checkpoints accumulate writes from a long period (such as 5 minutes), and since all "swap" writes during this period are done to a relatively small area on the disk without much head movement.
How can LFS avoid the disk head moves and still provide some sort of sane disk synchronization period as well as data coherency?
If 5 minutes is a sane synchronization period for orthogonal persistency, why isn't it for a standard file system?
> int* ConstitutionalReferences(); > int IsFederalOnly();
If you mean to imply that IP law has constitutional references and is federal only, that simply isn't true for trademark law, which has both state and federal laws, and has no reference in the constitution. Trade secret law has no federal laws, IIRC, and again has no reference in the constitution. This is of course talking only about the US, as the above two functions aren't meaningful internationally.
> virtual double TimeLimit();
Which can't work for trademarks, which has no time limit; as long as a trademarks is in use and protected, it can be kept.
> virtual int RequiresRegistration();
Again, assuming that you mean to imply that IP requires registration, neither copyrights nor trade secrets require registration, and trade secrets don't even require registration before a court case.
The point being, "Intellecual Property" is a superclass and the copyright, trademark, etc. are just subclasses.
That's arguable, but your class structure hardly shows it.
C'mon Richard, do yourself a favor and stop trying to get attention all over you and your wonderful GNU,
Why would that do him a favor? His goal is to get the word out -- perhaps being less abrasive would help as might dropping GNU/Linux, but shutting up would never help.
if we could count the packages on a Linux system
"If we could"??? Did we forget how to count?
right now I really doubt that 20% of them would be related directly to GNU.
What other group has 20% of the packages on the system? Importance matters, too. You take out GNU packages, you can't boot -- you're missing a libc. There's no drop in replacement, either. You also can't compile (even the BSD's use GCC and GAS). You're also missing textutils (cat, etc.) and fileutils (cp, mv, etc.) -- replaceable, but still missing. There's a number of other essential packages that would be missing.
I just think Linus attitude is really more of a leader than yours.
Linus isn't a leader; he choses not to lead, except in the narrow field of Linux kernel development.
I think the film is in the public domain because for what other reason would there be so many varied distributors for just the US listed on IMDB?
I don't know where you're looking at, as I only see one DVD available in the US. In any case, it's moot; the law is clear here - it was made in Germany in 1927, it's still under copyright. There's no legal question here.
I own a copy of Fritz Lang's Metropolis on a DVD. The film footage of this movie is in the public domain (there was no original audio track).
Why would you think it's in the public domain? A movie made in 1927 in Germany is under copyright under American law (no renewal needed) and is also still under copyright in the EU and much of the rest of the world, if I'm not mistaken.
Not everyone who publishes a file on the internet is a millionare.
Not everyone who publishes a file on the Web is a millionare, either. Unless you're uploading large files (and I don't mean legal software, as there's many places to upload that), there's free sites for that. Perhaps Kazaa is an effective site to upload home-grown music, but if you don't have that website, no one will ever know about it, and if you don't have the songs on your website, half your audience will never listen.
Kazaa isn't any different (in terms of what files will work on it) than the web, Usenet, M$'s file sharing, NFS, or any other systems which will send files across a network.
Yes, but if I want to put something legal out on the net, Kazaa is an inefficent, unreliable way to do so. With rare exceptions, placing them on the web makes them easier to find and reliably findable, no matter where you and the searcher are on the net. The biggest use for Kazaa is for stuff that would quickly get you threatened with a copyright infringement suit.
The man brought much needed integrity back to the presidential position.
Instead of getting blowjobs from the interns, he's putting felons, convicted for wrongful acts in high office (Poindexter), in high office again. I'd rather have integrity as president then integrity as a person, if I'm forced to choose.
However, the best solution is that used by EROS, which is for the kernel not to provide a file system at all, but instead provide Orthogonal Persistence.
Why does blurring the lines between temporary objects and permanent ones improve things, overall? There's lots of things - my webbrowser, my solitare game, my editor - that I want to come up to a known clean state. Tomorrow is another day, and I probably want Slashdot instead half-naked vixens first thing in the morning. I may have typed some notes into my editor the last time I used it; currently, they disappeared when I chose not to save them. If they still exist, that's one more thing that's going to pop up when I'm doing a search, or how ever you organize data, that I never wanted to see again. Also, what happens when I load a CD or movie into an editor and screw around with it? Right now, if I don't save, it goes away; with persistence, hundreds or thousands of MB of useless data are going to stick around by default.
This is like Ford allowing its replacement engines only to be put in Ford vehicles requiring repair, and disallowing them to be used to build a new, third-party vehicle.
Perfectly reasonable and legitimate.
Why? Why shouldn't people be able to assemble their own cars from spare parts? The contract is just a way to get around the fact that once you've sold a part, you don't have control over it.
...huge volume of self sacrifice for family, country and religion that's gone on throughout the centuries.
And you're equating that with... writing C code. Riiight. Forgive me for being incredulous.
You're saying that people will give their lives for each other, but won't write C code for each other. Forgive me for being incredulous.
What keeps them coming back to the screen, [is] the intellectual pleasure that they derive from coding. And that, alas, is selfishness.
Just because you enjoy programming doesn't mean that you program for selfish reasons. People tend to do what they enjoy, but that doesn't mean that if you enjoy cooking, your work at a soup kitchen is for selfish reasons.
It's also stock that a rental store doesn't need to track.
It's also stock that doesn't need be returned to the store, so you never get late fees from, and the customers never have to return to the store and maybe pick up another movie. Furthermore, instead of having to buy one $20 DVD for 60 rentals (actually probably $10 at their prices), they have to buy a $3 DVD for each rental. Every analysis I've seen says the rental stores hate this idea.
A couple libertarians viewing the world from their own perspective. Needless to say, ESR would prefer to see it as all "scratching an itch". The world's more complex then that; there are many different reasons, including "the common good".
Humans are selfish.
Humans are tribal creatures, and our ancestors were tribal creatures. Viewing humans as purely self-centered ignores the huge volume of self sacrifice for family, country and religion that's gone on throughout the centuries.
The amount of consumers with the same attitude as you is statisticaly insignificant in the reality of the media world.
I doubt it. My dad - no technophile - laughed at DIVX when it first came out. And it looks like most consumers were laughing with him. I'm firmly convinced that my dad would happily pay $10 for a film he's going to watch once or twice, but wouldn't buy a DIVX-like disc for half the price.
The ability to move about freely is a right, and the right to drive is an extension of that right. It's clear that the state has the right to detain people for various reasons, and giving the dangers involved with driving, the state has more right to stop people from driving. But that doesn't change the fundamental analysis.
It's not up to the judge; it's up to the jury to decide how to interpret the evidence. And since none of those mesurements are accurate to more then +-5 MPH, they'd probably call it 30.
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it [Debian] can never be LSB-compliant since it doesn't use RPM packaging.
Debian is LSB-complaint, as much as anyone else is. LSB-complaint doesn't mean that you have to use RPM; it means you have to be able to install LSB packages, which happen to be a specialized subset of RPM internally, which Debian can.
Everything in law is theory.
Nonsense. Law is organized lynchings. Law is where people have agreed to turn over investigation and punishment to a third party so more bad guys get caught and fewer good guys get wrongfully punished. If enough people get together and decide that people can't wear dresses on Fridays, then that's the law.
There is not even an argument in this case that the defendant caused harm to anyone. The argument is that he tried to cause harm to the companies involved.
So, someone puts a gun against your head and pulls the trigger, but the gun jams, no harm, no foul, eh? Personally, I want the would-be shooter in jail so he doesn't succeed next time. In practice, if the law consistently doesn't put those people in jail, several of those people are going to find themselves the guest of honor at a lynching, as most people don't want people who would attempt murder around.
If you fail to feed your child, do you really cause him to die?
He died due to starvation while being held in an escape-proof cage (aka a crib) you put him in. Are you really claiming that someone kidnaps you and sticks you in an escape-proof cage and leaves you to starve to death, that they aren't guilty of murder along with the other charges?
Let's steal sushi, you mean?
You can almost always get rid of the negative; acts of omission are frequently phrased in terms of abandonment and neglect. But to steal is to take something and not pay; that act of omission is essential there.
Killing is an act.
Why? Not putting a foot on the brake is not an act. Not fixing the boiler in your apartments before it explodes killing four is not an act.
I suppose if your children were free to find food on their own, no one could accuse you of anything other than being a piss-poor parent.
Let's watch your six month old child find food on its own. If you have the right to object when someone takes your kids, surely you have the responsibility to take care of them.
Not doing something is not a crime; it isn't even an act.
So if you're coming up on a red light, and see a bunch of people crossing ahead, and don't put your foot on the break, thus running a red light and killing a half-dozen people, it's not a crime? What about if you don't feed your children? Or don't pay for the food you're taking out of the supermarket?
all of my friends that have read Eddings, Jordan and Salvatore or even the Shannara series gererally do not like the Harry Potter books.
Interesting; all of my friends who have read those books and a wide variety of other fantasy enjoy the Harry Potter series.
He claimed GNU was the "operating system" and that Linux was just the "Kernel". I find this a little specious.
Why? I remember a teacher complaining when he first bought a Unix "operating system" and didn't get a compiler with it. Even excluding the general public, I can't think of anyone who would buy an operating system and expect to get just a kernel
there are a lot of other technologies that make up the Linux "environment"
For a console system, there's no other one group that wrote a significant amount of code for the system, besides the kernel; most groups take care of one package.
why is it GNU/Linux and GNU/Hurd but not GNU/NetBSD? Does NetBSD normally get distributed with non-GNU utilities?
GNU/Linux systems use GNU Libc, Bash, and the GNU utilities. BSD systems, otoh, have their own homegrown libc, shells and utilities. About the only GNU tools standard on the BSDs are the compiler and assembler. There are a few Linux systems that don't use the GNU utils (using the BSD tools instead), like Mastadon Linux, and in theory even RMS would agree that they aren't GNU/Linuxes.
On the other hand, efficient implementations of Orthogonal Persistency just "sweep through" the entire disk while committing checkpoints writing all of the data in huge bulks. The nature of hard disks makes this approach very efficient, especially since checkpoints accumulate writes from a long period (such as 5 minutes), and since all "swap" writes during this period are done to a relatively small area on the disk without much head movement.
How can LFS avoid the disk head moves and still provide some sort of sane disk synchronization period as well as data coherency?
If 5 minutes is a sane synchronization period for orthogonal persistency, why isn't it for a standard file system?
> int* ConstitutionalReferences();
> int IsFederalOnly();
If you mean to imply that IP law has constitutional references and is federal only, that simply isn't true for trademark law, which has both state and federal laws, and has no reference in the constitution. Trade secret law has no federal laws, IIRC, and again has no reference in the constitution. This is of course talking only about the US, as the above two functions aren't meaningful internationally.
> virtual double TimeLimit();
Which can't work for trademarks, which has no time limit; as long as a trademarks is in use and protected, it can be kept.
> virtual int RequiresRegistration();
Again, assuming that you mean to imply that IP requires registration, neither copyrights nor trade secrets require registration, and trade secrets don't even require registration before a court case.
The point being, "Intellecual Property" is a superclass and the copyright, trademark, etc. are just subclasses.
That's arguable, but your class structure hardly shows it.
C'mon Richard, do yourself a favor and stop trying to get attention all over you and your wonderful GNU,
Why would that do him a favor? His goal is to get the word out -- perhaps being less abrasive would help as might dropping GNU/Linux, but shutting up would never help.
if we could count the packages on a Linux system
"If we could"??? Did we forget how to count?
right now I really doubt that 20% of them would be related directly to GNU.
What other group has 20% of the packages on the system? Importance matters, too. You take out GNU packages, you can't boot -- you're missing a libc. There's no drop in replacement, either. You also can't compile (even the BSD's use GCC and GAS). You're also missing textutils (cat, etc.) and fileutils (cp, mv, etc.) -- replaceable, but still missing. There's a number of other essential packages that would be missing.
I just think Linus attitude is really more of a leader than yours.
Linus isn't a leader; he choses not to lead, except in the narrow field of Linux kernel development.
I think the film is in the public domain because for what other reason would there be so many varied distributors for just the US listed on IMDB?
I don't know where you're looking at, as I only see one DVD available in the US. In any case, it's moot; the law is clear here - it was made in Germany in 1927, it's still under copyright. There's no legal question here.
I own a copy of Fritz Lang's Metropolis on a DVD. The film footage of this movie is in the public domain (there was no original audio track).
Why would you think it's in the public domain? A movie made in 1927 in Germany is under copyright under American law (no renewal needed) and is also still under copyright in the EU and much of the rest of the world, if I'm not mistaken.
Not everyone who publishes a file on the internet is a millionare.
Not everyone who publishes a file on the Web is a millionare, either. Unless you're uploading large files (and I don't mean legal software, as there's many places to upload that), there's free sites for that. Perhaps Kazaa is an effective site to upload home-grown music, but if you don't have that website, no one will ever know about it, and if you don't have the songs on your website, half your audience will never listen.
Kazaa isn't any different (in terms of what files will work on it) than the web, Usenet, M$'s file sharing, NFS, or any other systems which will send files across a network.
Yes, but if I want to put something legal out on the net, Kazaa is an inefficent, unreliable way to do so. With rare exceptions, placing them on the web makes them easier to find and reliably findable, no matter where you and the searcher are on the net. The biggest use for Kazaa is for stuff that would quickly get you threatened with a copyright infringement suit.
The man brought much needed integrity back to the presidential position.
Instead of getting blowjobs from the interns, he's putting felons, convicted for wrongful acts in high office (Poindexter), in high office again. I'd rather have integrity as president then integrity as a person, if I'm forced to choose.
However, the best solution is that used by EROS, which is for the kernel not to provide a file system at all, but instead provide Orthogonal Persistence.
Why does blurring the lines between temporary objects and permanent ones improve things, overall? There's lots of things - my webbrowser, my solitare game, my editor - that I want to come up to a known clean state. Tomorrow is another day, and I probably want Slashdot instead half-naked vixens first thing in the morning. I may have typed some notes into my editor the last time I used it; currently, they disappeared when I chose not to save them. If they still exist, that's one more thing that's going to pop up when I'm doing a search, or how ever you organize data, that I never wanted to see again. Also, what happens when I load a CD or movie into an editor and screw around with it? Right now, if I don't save, it goes away; with persistence, hundreds or thousands of MB of useless data are going to stick around by default.
This is like Ford allowing its replacement engines only to be put in Ford vehicles requiring repair, and disallowing them to be used to build a new, third-party vehicle.
Perfectly reasonable and legitimate.
Why? Why shouldn't people be able to assemble their own cars from spare parts? The contract is just a way to get around the fact that once you've sold a part, you don't have control over it.
...huge volume of self sacrifice for family, country and religion that's gone on throughout the centuries.
And you're equating that with... writing C code. Riiight. Forgive me for being incredulous.
You're saying that people will give their lives for each other, but won't write C code for each other. Forgive me for being incredulous.
What keeps them coming back to the screen, [is] the intellectual pleasure that they derive from coding. And that, alas, is selfishness.
Just because you enjoy programming doesn't mean that you program for selfish reasons. People tend to do what they enjoy, but that doesn't mean that if you enjoy cooking, your work at a soup kitchen is for selfish reasons.
It's also stock that a rental store doesn't need to track.
It's also stock that doesn't need be returned to the store, so you never get late fees from, and the customers never have to return to the store and maybe pick up another movie. Furthermore, instead of having to buy one $20 DVD for 60 rentals (actually probably $10 at their prices), they have to buy a $3 DVD for each rental. Every analysis I've seen says the rental stores hate this idea.
Time to brush up on your Ayn Rand and your ESR.
A couple libertarians viewing the world from their own perspective. Needless to say, ESR would prefer to see it as all "scratching an itch". The world's more complex then that; there are many different reasons, including "the common good".
Humans are selfish.
Humans are tribal creatures, and our ancestors were tribal creatures. Viewing humans as purely self-centered ignores the huge volume of self sacrifice for family, country and religion that's gone on throughout the centuries.
The amount of consumers with the same attitude as you is statisticaly insignificant in the reality of the media world.
I doubt it. My dad - no technophile - laughed at DIVX when it first came out. And it looks like most consumers were laughing with him. I'm firmly convinced that my dad would happily pay $10 for a film he's going to watch once or twice, but wouldn't buy a DIVX-like disc for half the price.
Driving is a PRIVILEGE, not a right.
The ability to move about freely is a right, and the right to drive is an extension of that right. It's clear that the state has the right to detain people for various reasons, and giving the dangers involved with driving, the state has more right to stop people from driving. But that doesn't change the fundamental analysis.
Defendant says he was going 30 MPH
Accident investigator says 29 MPH
EDR says 35 MPH
What would the judge decided then?
It's not up to the judge; it's up to the jury to decide how to interpret the evidence. And since none of those mesurements are accurate to more then +-5 MPH, they'd probably call it 30.