So your solution to avoiding a slippery slope into a totalitarian state is to restrict individual liberty.
Ya, that makes sense.
Individuals should be free to choose if they want to broadcast their location to anyone, or only to their friends.. sometimes or all the time.. the location they choose or a GPS location or an approximation of their location from WiFi towers.. etc. It's the individual choice that matters, not the technology. If you want to stop the slippery slope, stop people who are against individual liberty, not technology.
I think the funny thing about privacy groups is that they're not in the business of acknowledging that less extreme viewpoints exist. So they don't even mention that Latitude gives you the option of setting who can see your location and who can't. If they acknowledged that then they might have to acknowledge that some people want everyone to know where they are and what they are doing. They might even find out that these people are in the majority.
It's a rule. Whenever a change in the status quo is suggested people immediately jump to the most negative conclusions.
I remember, many years ago, my all knowing government banned "reverse lookup" electronic phone books, unless they had some restrictions in the code. Later, the products fells off the market as they were no longer useful. Before then, one could lookup the telephone number of their neighbor and give them a call if the "music" spewing out of their place at 3am was a bit loud. Now you just call the police or, gulp, go over there.
I mean, if you're going to claim that something runs on X because you put Y into it and you get Y from X, then you might as well extend it back as far as possible.
Receipts for snow shovels from your Australia office. Never mind that it doesn't snow there. They *have* to be buying snow shovels or stealing them, or something.
You kinda have to understand what the rapture is to get the dis dude. Just like the second coming of Christ, the Singularity promises to free us all from those pesky problems of self-governance and, ya know, thinking for ourselves, by putting an all powerful, all knowing deity in charge. Thing is, nerds are only happen if the deity is something they can pretend to understand.
In all the years I have been visiting slashdot, this is without a doubt the dumbest thing I have ever heard anyone say.
Well if it is so simple, Mr Smartypants, how about you tell the nice people the purpose of prisons in the US? Go on. No, not your personal opinion, we want the consensus view. We'll wait.
Is there a reason why inmates should not be allowed to have cell phones? I mean, they've got a legal right to phone privileges.
Prisons serve no purpose in the US. Sure, there's about a dozen different ideas why prisons exist, but none of these ideas are agreed upon and none of them are empirically measured to ensure prisons actually serve that purpose.
Just in case anyone actually cares, I doubt they do, this just sounds like a regular SSL cert expiration to me. The DRM system likely has some sensible internal clock that can't turn backwards, but the SSL layer is just your regular SSL layer. Try it yourself, go to a web page with an expired SSL cert, watch Firefox warn you, turn your clock back a year and go back to the site, Firefox will be happy. Should Firefox use a "trusted clock"? No.. cause Firefox assumes you turned your clock back for a reason. It doesn't try to actively work against the user. This DRM system does, obviously, but it likely has other components that do that and just layers them on top of the SSL layer.
Yeah, every now and then someone asks me if I want to go to Thailand or some other oppressive nation and I'm like "uhhh, no thanks!" and they're completely baffled as to what I could possibly have against leaving my nice little democratic country where attempting to bribe an officer of the law get you arrested rather than be expected.
Why is it that you people always try to sell Americans on the idea that we spent all our money on wars and thus must have less than you in other areas?
Umm, because sensible people think that if you spend money on X then you can't spend the that money on Y? Of course, governments are not sensible so you end up with the fractional reserve banking system.
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This isn't even about GPS. RTFA.
So your solution to avoiding a slippery slope into a totalitarian state is to restrict individual liberty.
Ya, that makes sense.
Individuals should be free to choose if they want to broadcast their location to anyone, or only to their friends.. sometimes or all the time.. the location they choose or a GPS location or an approximation of their location from WiFi towers.. etc. It's the individual choice that matters, not the technology. If you want to stop the slippery slope, stop people who are against individual liberty, not technology.
I think the funny thing about privacy groups is that they're not in the business of acknowledging that less extreme viewpoints exist. So they don't even mention that Latitude gives you the option of setting who can see your location and who can't. If they acknowledged that then they might have to acknowledge that some people want everyone to know where they are and what they are doing. They might even find out that these people are in the majority.
It's a rule. Whenever a change in the status quo is suggested people immediately jump to the most negative conclusions.
I remember, many years ago, my all knowing government banned "reverse lookup" electronic phone books, unless they had some restrictions in the code. Later, the products fells off the market as they were no longer useful. Before then, one could lookup the telephone number of their neighbor and give them a call if the "music" spewing out of their place at 3am was a bit loud. Now you just call the police or, gulp, go over there.
I mean, if you're going to claim that something runs on X because you put Y into it and you get Y from X, then you might as well extend it back as far as possible.
Morons.
And in the case of games, anything deemed not suitable for a 15 year old is banned.
There is no R18+ rating for games.
it's illegal to copy any copyrighted software in russia..
That word doesn't mean what you think it means.
Adults should be free to buy whatever the hell games they want. Requiring a rating on games, movies, music, etc, is just censorship by another name.
I'm saying it's a completely irrelevant concern. And you *know* that is what I'm saying.
Ya, I meant *right now* being that it's summer here.
Receipts for snow shovels from your Australia office. Never mind that it doesn't snow there. They *have* to be buying snow shovels or stealing them, or something.
Corporate dick.
Well I guess maybe that's your problem. You can't see the forest for the trees so you don't see the analogy.
The rest of us are enjoying a laugh.
You kinda have to understand what the rapture is to get the dis dude. Just like the second coming of Christ, the Singularity promises to free us all from those pesky problems of self-governance and, ya know, thinking for ourselves, by putting an all powerful, all knowing deity in charge. Thing is, nerds are only happen if the deity is something they can pretend to understand.
I believe the correct dis is "The Rapture for nerds".
Is it just me or is Kurzweil turning his cult into a religion?
hehe, you don't know.
Americans are so funny.
In all the years I have been visiting slashdot, this is without a doubt the dumbest thing I have ever heard anyone say.
Well if it is so simple, Mr Smartypants, how about you tell the nice people the purpose of prisons in the US? Go on. No, not your personal opinion, we want the consensus view. We'll wait.
Yes, thank you for using your awesome powers of ignorance and reading comprehension to make my point for me.
A transparent prison system.. ya, that'll happen.
Is there a reason why inmates should not be allowed to have cell phones? I mean, they've got a legal right to phone privileges.
Prisons serve no purpose in the US. Sure, there's about a dozen different ideas why prisons exist, but none of these ideas are agreed upon and none of them are empirically measured to ensure prisons actually serve that purpose.
Ya think theodp might be one of those people who were just laid off? He seems a little bit biased.
I think you're confusing a code signing certificate with an SSL certificate.
Just in case anyone actually cares, I doubt they do, this just sounds like a regular SSL cert expiration to me. The DRM system likely has some sensible internal clock that can't turn backwards, but the SSL layer is just your regular SSL layer. Try it yourself, go to a web page with an expired SSL cert, watch Firefox warn you, turn your clock back a year and go back to the site, Firefox will be happy. Should Firefox use a "trusted clock"? No.. cause Firefox assumes you turned your clock back for a reason. It doesn't try to actively work against the user. This DRM system does, obviously, but it likely has other components that do that and just layers them on top of the SSL layer.
Yeah, every now and then someone asks me if I want to go to Thailand or some other oppressive nation and I'm like "uhhh, no thanks!" and they're completely baffled as to what I could possibly have against leaving my nice little democratic country where attempting to bribe an officer of the law get you arrested rather than be expected.
Why is it that you people always try to sell Americans on the idea that we spent all our money on wars and thus must have less than you in other areas?
Umm, because sensible people think that if you spend money on X then you can't spend the that money on Y? Of course, governments are not sensible so you end up with the fractional reserve banking system.