They specifically did it for one page for a limited time on a specially named release of the software to show that 1) this is juvenile, and 2) both content providers and browser writers can be juvenile and it could get an arms escalation. With the point being: nobody should do this to begin with.
Yes, it's mildly unprofessional. In my book, that's okay, because professionals today would either 1) sue them or 2) do it back without saying anything and CYA in a long EULA. It's rare that a company tries to make their point with a little bit of wit, probably because it'll be lost on some people.
Well, MS is looking for people who have been in the field for three years or more... so they're only going for the server market perhaps? Or developers developers developers?
At our site, we specifically have a separate system set up for spreading large files to our sites around the world. It only holds files for three days to emphasize its use as a transport agent and keep disk space down. If a department constantly uses a lot of disk space, sure, they should spend the money to get a proper ftp site. But if you send files only sporadically, and sometimes very large files, this can be good.
Also, it'd be nice to cut down on internet charges by using a local copy of the nightly builds if they're available, so something self-organizing like this would be nice.
I'm just saying that HTML has many merits (eg. all the reasons it was created for) besides being screen-scrapable (which wasn't one of the reasons it was created) and those merits are ample or else it wouldn't be so popular right now. So while there may be individual content providers (who don't mind their content being only available on one kind of device with only a certain type of software) who won't use HTML, there's enough of a draw to HTML that it likely will be around for quite some time.
Furthermore, it's possible that to make content be device-independant like HTML is, the content MUST be screen-scrapable. That is, the software understand exactly what bits are content and what bits are presentation, so it can ignore/mess with the presentation and leave the content alone, so just the part about "knowing exactly what's content" allows a screen scraper to work.
No they won't. The main goal of HTML wasn't so everything would be open and "stealable", the goal was to have content that could be viewed on a variety of platforms. You can't get that with flash or huge images, and in fact, for some of the more interesting devices (eg. cell phones, PDAs), it's explicitely required that the machine be able to understand the content to some extent so that it can transform it to something that better suits the particular device.
The NPR mentioned that as well... that most companies should, but in times in the past most companies wouldn't give you a copy of the credit report, and perhaps even now they're far from being as compliant as they could be. To the extent that many people don't know about the law and don't know to ask in the first place.
If they are found to be commiting fraud, the worst thing that could happen is that the BSA organization is disbanded... Apple, Microsoft, etc. won't be touched, and will feel free to try some other tactic down the road even if the legal department says it's in the grey area.
I was actually suggesting that he's probably quite surprised and confused as to why a somewhat insignificant post of his (in the scheme of things... not that creating your own company and promising $100k of sales up front isn't completely insignificant. but not necessarily on the level of Eldred decisions either) made the front page of slashdot.
And, uh... perhaps suggest something about those who would be willing to spend lots of time posting and reading about such a thing, but I won't go there. When in Rome, don't deficate on the Romans.
I wish I made Slashdot every time I had an engineering problem. Now granted I'm not plunking down $100k every day on raw ingredients, but still... If you were Carmack, wouldn't it be a little expected and wouldn't you think it's a little over-the-top that random posts about very very specific things make slashdot (eg. concentrator machines).
Ahh, yeah, you're right. See CSS3 spec, "Selectors" recommendation, section 2. Nifty stuff coming. For some reason this CSS makes me excited every time I learn new things about it, and I'm not that hardcore of a geek...
And we can play with this stuff in Mozilla. Oh happy day.:)
Perl's backticks do the same thing as PHP's backticks and shell_exec do. Note that there's a little more to the above script than just the backticks -- it also prints out a form for command input as well and a couple other things.
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Yeah, but capitalism is a model designed to enhance productivity. Like most models, it has its flaws, and when people take it to its extremes and take it too literally, that's where you start to see cracks in the model. Similarly with evolution, the goal is to promote long-lived species which can survive as adverse conditions as possible. And you could say that maybe it's acceptable for someone to have sex with every member of the opposite sex that they possibly can, but that's kind of perverting the system. So people at the extremes shouldn't necessarily feel justified or right just because some model happens to support them.
On the other hand, I don't know that there's an obvious solution. Models change over time, especially ones which are under more human control, and the extremes are the things that are most likely to change. That's still not a good answer though.
Yeah, there are tricks, but I think it comes down to owning a lot of IPs (P2P networks can discount IPs which appear to have hundreds of users on them), even if there are only a couple of computers that each host many IPs. Blocks of IPs can be blacklisted within P2P software, so they'd have to keep moving around a massive numbers of IPs which require a lot of bandwidth.
I don't know if it will get to this really, the war has some way to go first. And if it got to this point, there'd be quite a few obvious moves on each side afterwards. It could get interesting.
Either way though, this seems like a much longer term strategy since there are so many moves and countermoves to make. Perhaps it's more of a delaying tactic? Or perhaps merely political fodder for their arguments against piracy?
And you want to do this because many ISPs might consider there is some value to a static IP and charge you more for it?
If numeric addresses were virtually unlimited (as in the proposal above), then by supply-and-demand, the price for them should be near-zero *. On the other hand, I'm sure there would be enough unintelligent people out there to keep the price well above zero (see https certificate authorities).
* Specifically, it should drop down to the cost of production/maintenance, which should be exceedingly small and inseperable from the general cost of providing a cable/DSL connection to you.
It will only work if Overpeer has as many or more computers constantly offering the bad versions. Then it won't matter if anyone else shares these corrupt versions or not. The only problem would be that if Overpeer takes up 50% of the P2P network, users will see 50% good files and 50% bad files, so they may want to be 75% of the P2P network (or add three times as many computers as otherwise exists on the P2P network), which would require massive resources unless they do some tricks to make a single physical computer appear as multiple computers.
Ladies and gentlemen of the supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider: (pulling down a diagram of Chewie) this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk, but Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now, think about that. That does not make sense! (jury looks shocked)
Why would a Wookiee -- an eight foot tall Wookiee -- want to live on Endor with a bunch of two foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense!
But more importantly, you have to ask yourself: what does that have to do with this case? (calmly) Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense!
For embedded programming, logic analyzers will let you store X number of steps before your program crashes. Of course, they cost $80,000, but it's still an alternative for the top 10% of employees of the top 100 tech companies...
Another reason that this may become more prevalent is that links have been declared to be possibly illegal, but search terms have not. For example, here are some quotes from several O'Reilly books...
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They specifically did it for one page for a limited time on a specially named release of the software to show that 1) this is juvenile, and 2) both content providers and browser writers can be juvenile and it could get an arms escalation. With the point being: nobody should do this to begin with.
Yes, it's mildly unprofessional. In my book, that's okay, because professionals today would either 1) sue them or 2) do it back without saying anything and CYA in a long EULA. It's rare that a company tries to make their point with a little bit of wit, probably because it'll be lost on some people.
Well, MS is looking for people who have been in the field for three years or more... so they're only going for the server market perhaps? Or developers developers developers?
Also, it'd be nice to cut down on internet charges by using a local copy of the nightly builds if they're available, so something self-organizing like this would be nice.
Furthermore, it's possible that to make content be device-independant like HTML is, the content MUST be screen-scrapable. That is, the software understand exactly what bits are content and what bits are presentation, so it can ignore/mess with the presentation and leave the content alone, so just the part about "knowing exactly what's content" allows a screen scraper to work.
No they won't. The main goal of HTML wasn't so everything would be open and "stealable", the goal was to have content that could be viewed on a variety of platforms. You can't get that with flash or huge images, and in fact, for some of the more interesting devices (eg. cell phones, PDAs), it's explicitely required that the machine be able to understand the content to some extent so that it can transform it to something that better suits the particular device.
The NPR mentioned that as well... that most companies should, but in times in the past most companies wouldn't give you a copy of the credit report, and perhaps even now they're far from being as compliant as they could be. To the extent that many people don't know about the law and don't know to ask in the first place.
If they are found to be commiting fraud, the worst thing that could happen is that the BSA organization is disbanded... Apple, Microsoft, etc. won't be touched, and will feel free to try some other tactic down the road even if the legal department says it's in the grey area.
And, uh... perhaps suggest something about those who would be willing to spend lots of time posting and reading about such a thing, but I won't go there. When in Rome, don't deficate on the Romans.
I wish I made Slashdot every time I had an engineering problem. Now granted I'm not plunking down $100k every day on raw ingredients, but still... If you were Carmack, wouldn't it be a little expected and wouldn't you think it's a little over-the-top that random posts about very very specific things make slashdot (eg. concentrator machines).
Well, it was SGML => HTML => XML which is a wee bit odd.
Yeah, part of it is there, the CSS2 validator didn't completely freak out. The *= (and $= and ^= and so on) syntax is new in CSS3 though, I think.
And we can play with this stuff in Mozilla. Oh happy day. :)
Nope, it doesn't validate with the w3c's CSS validator. Do we get to start making up random syntax like MSIE now?
Is that Mozilla trick valid CSS syntax? I've never seen anything like it before.
Perl's backticks do the same thing as PHP's backticks and shell_exec do. Note that there's a little more to the above script than just the backticks -- it also prints out a form for command input as well and a couple other things.
Sharuman will be using his puppet
Sharuman to destroy the people of Rohan
On the other hand, I don't know that there's an obvious solution. Models change over time, especially ones which are under more human control, and the extremes are the things that are most likely to change. That's still not a good answer though.
It's call "parody", and when done with enough wit, are far more original and artistic than the work they derived from.
I don't know if it will get to this really, the war has some way to go first. And if it got to this point, there'd be quite a few obvious moves on each side afterwards. It could get interesting.
Either way though, this seems like a much longer term strategy since there are so many moves and countermoves to make. Perhaps it's more of a delaying tactic? Or perhaps merely political fodder for their arguments against piracy?
- And you want to do this because many ISPs might consider there is some value to a static IP and charge you more for it?
If numeric addresses were virtually unlimited (as in the proposal above), then by supply-and-demand, the price for them should be near-zero *. On the other hand, I'm sure there would be enough unintelligent people out there to keep the price well above zero (see https certificate authorities).* Specifically, it should drop down to the cost of production/maintenance, which should be exceedingly small and inseperable from the general cost of providing a cable/DSL connection to you.
It will only work if Overpeer has as many or more computers constantly offering the bad versions. Then it won't matter if anyone else shares these corrupt versions or not. The only problem would be that if Overpeer takes up 50% of the P2P network, users will see 50% good files and 50% bad files, so they may want to be 75% of the P2P network (or add three times as many computers as otherwise exists on the P2P network), which would require massive resources unless they do some tricks to make a single physical computer appear as multiple computers.
Why would a Wookiee -- an eight foot tall Wookiee -- want to live on Endor with a bunch of two foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense!
But more importantly, you have to ask yourself: what does that have to do with this case? (calmly) Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense!
For embedded programming, logic analyzers will let you store X number of steps before your program crashes. Of course, they cost $80,000, but it's still an alternative for the top 10% of employees of the top 100 tech companies...
Another reason that this may become more prevalent is that links have been declared to be possibly illegal, but search terms have not. For example, here are some quotes from several O'Reilly books...
Yeah, but workstations are 1) loud 2) big 3) don't nicely fit into the typical livingroom stereo setup.