"or put big yellow stickers on the side of the propeller blades......"
That's not such a bad idea. Why not paint the props with high contrast alternating colors in an irregular pattern so that they really get the birds attention when moving.
"What I'm saying is that the standards that water departments actually work towards, across the USA, whether internally imposed, state imposed, or federally imposed, must vary enormously."
There are some key parameters imposed ny the EPA that are universal. Most of us (public water supplies) try to exceed our state requirements which tend to be slightly more restrictive than the federal regulations. You are correct in saying that water quality from town to town does vary signifigantly but it is important to note that they all must meet the federal guidelines at a minimum. The differences in quality are usually aesthetic (discoloration, taste, odors)which is still very important as it is the most noticable. The water systems that people are pleased with have capital to build, improve and maintain. Those that don't have capital must get by with just "meeting the regulations". Good operators make all the difference in the world. Sometimes a problem that would require a significant expenditure on the part of the PWS (money they don't have in many cases) can be alleviated or at least lessened to a tolerable level by employees that care and are knowledgable.
"Well, water you use to flush your toilet doesn't have to be sterile, does it?"
No public water supply sterilizes their water due to the expense/impracticality of doing so but the water used to flush your toilet does have to be potable for obvious reasons.
What contaminents would you like to see monitored more closely/have a lower MCL (maximum contaminent level). You do realize that a large percentage of our (USA) water supplies are filtered (not all ground water needs filtration). ALL public water supplies are disinfected and monitored closely. I monitor no less than 15 key parameters daily (holidays included). We perform routine bacteriological sampling monthly (analyzed by a third party lab and reported to the STATE BY THEM - to keep me honest). Every public water supply must also perform a slew of addition testing - SOC's, VOC's, radionuclides, TTHM's, lead and copper sampling, etc, etc.
"Michigan counties specifically state they are not responsible for homeowners water quality *at all*."
If you are refering to a public water supply, they are responsible. I doubt they would say otherwise. If it is a private water supply (home well). How can they assure your safety? Are you willing to allow them to control your property? Do you want them to?
"I am convinced that local governments are forcing the adoption of public water (and sewer) sources."
Yes, there is a LOT of money to be made.
"Public water systems simply stick a pipe into, say, lake michigan, sucking up old debris and all, and dump chlorine in."
Not true. Not even close. If they tried this the public would be all over them as the water would be completely impalatable and aesthetically appalling (algae and turbidity). The EPA would have a fit and require it to be corrected. If it wasn't, they would impose fines of up to $25K a day per violation.
"In Chicagoland, a 24" pipe was installed into the suburbs directly from lake michigan."
Read the EPA regs - http://www.epa.gov/safewater/mcl.html There is no way in hell they are distributing untreated surface water. Bear in mind that Michigan probably imposes even stricter regs than the EPA.
Many people believe that public water sources are unsafe but they cannot say why. Is there something specific that concerns you?
Futhermore if you receive your water from a public water supply, every year you are supplied a summary of all the testing done. It's called a Consumer Confidence Report.
This a short list. There are many other examples. I don't agree with everything my government has done or is doing but it's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
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"Who sells camcorders and pasta in the same store, anyway?"
Walmart
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"Can't argue with facts"
Nope, sure can't
Where do I sign up?
Unprofessional would have been something like "Blow me".
I think it's kinda catchy.
Very creative goatse troll.
They didn't say "45 minutes late".
"or put big yellow stickers on the side of the propeller blades......"
That's not such a bad idea. Why not paint the props with high contrast alternating colors in an irregular pattern so that they really get the birds attention when moving.
Yes and the fact that the water supplied to the toilet is the same water in the kitchen sink.
"What I'm saying is that the standards that water departments actually work towards, across the USA, whether internally imposed, state imposed, or federally imposed, must vary enormously."
There are some key parameters imposed ny the EPA that are universal. Most of us (public water supplies) try to exceed our state requirements which tend to be slightly more restrictive than the federal regulations. You are correct in saying that water quality from town to town does vary signifigantly but it is important to note that they all must meet the federal guidelines at a minimum. The differences in quality are usually aesthetic (discoloration, taste, odors)which is still very important as it is the most noticable. The water systems that people are pleased with have capital to build, improve and maintain. Those that don't have capital must get by with just "meeting the regulations". Good operators make all the difference in the world. Sometimes a problem that would require a significant expenditure on the part of the PWS (money they don't have in many cases) can be alleviated or at least lessened to a tolerable level by employees that care and are knowledgable.
"Well, water you use to flush your toilet doesn't have to be sterile, does it?"
No public water supply sterilizes their water due to the expense/impracticality of doing so but the water used to flush your toilet does have to be potable for obvious reasons.
What contaminents would you like to see monitored more closely/have a lower MCL (maximum contaminent level). You do realize that a large percentage of our (USA) water supplies are filtered (not all ground water needs filtration). ALL public water supplies are disinfected and monitored closely. I monitor no less than 15 key parameters daily (holidays included). We perform routine bacteriological sampling monthly (analyzed by a third party lab and reported to the STATE BY THEM - to keep me honest). Every public water supply must also perform a slew of addition testing - SOC's, VOC's, radionuclides, TTHM's, lead and copper sampling, etc, etc.
"Michigan counties specifically state they are not responsible for homeowners water quality *at all*."
If you are refering to a public water supply, they are responsible. I doubt they would say otherwise. If it is a private water supply (home well). How can they assure your safety? Are you willing to allow them to control your property? Do you want them to?
"I am convinced that local governments are forcing the adoption of public water (and sewer) sources."
Yes, there is a LOT of money to be made.
"Public water systems simply stick a pipe into, say, lake michigan, sucking up old debris and all, and dump chlorine in."
Not true. Not even close. If they tried this the public would be all over them as the water would be completely impalatable and aesthetically appalling (algae and turbidity). The EPA would have a fit and require it to be corrected. If it wasn't, they would impose fines of up to $25K a day per violation.
"In Chicagoland, a 24" pipe was installed into the suburbs directly from lake michigan."
Read the EPA regs - http://www.epa.gov/safewater/mcl.html There is no way in hell they are distributing untreated surface water. Bear in mind that Michigan probably imposes even stricter regs than the EPA.
Many people believe that public water sources are unsafe but they cannot say why. Is there something specific that concerns you?
"the standards they have to meet are not very strict"
Care to elaborate?
In my duties as a grade III Alabama water operator, I find that the standards are quite strict. Is there something paticular you have in mind?
Futhermore if you receive your water from a public water supply, every year you are supplied a summary of all the testing done. It's called a Consumer Confidence Report.
Yes, he is known here but what has that got to do with his user ID?
"I run Linux AND I don't hate America - that is surely a paradox of some sort. I'm waiting to disappear in a puff of irony."
I wish I had a mod point.
"You know what they say about homophobes, don't you?"
They post anonymously in public forums to hide their true identity?.
Read this, all of it.
. sh tml
http://www.nationalreview.com/kopel/kopel090601
Still wanna sign?
"The United States of America is the only country in the world to use Weapons of Mass Destruction (excluding chemicals) on another populace."
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No, biowarfare has been around a very long time.
http://library.thinkquest.org/21659/agents/hist
"(one point for me for correctly using to, too, and two in one sentance)"
Congratulations, perhaps next time you will spell sentence correctly.
Do you work for the state of Florida?
"I tried the Siemens SS1021 first and that one didn't work."
Actually it works great. I booted up with Knoppix to figure out how to configure it in Slack 9.
I think the paranoia will stop when we stop findng video of terrorists killing dogs with nerve agents.
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http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/19/terror.tape.ch
Or maybe when we stop finding ricin in Paris.
http://cgi.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/03/20/fran
Or even after they stop trying to poison the water at our embassy.
http://www.edie.net/gf.cfm?L=left_frame.html&R=
This a short list. There are many other examples.
I don't agree with everything my government has done or is doing but it's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
"this is a very nice operating environment for our porpoises."
Cool! you have porpoises? I didn't know they could use computers.