People are reticent to upgrade because the new version is yet another triumph of Obfuscation Of Functionality for Microsoft. Let's hide shit under nearly invisible screen cues with no tooltips and watch people twist in the wind! WOO! FUNNY!
Okay. We're all gonna die! What're we gonna do about it?... That DOESN'T involve destroying the world economy and killing 3/4th of the people on the planet...... Do we have any engineering solutions that might help? Yeah...But those are HHHHARD! Is that like "Hard"? Yeah...but WORSE! So why don't we get working on them NOW if they're that hard? Because it's easier to scream "DOOOOM!" than actually do anything!
In short, i'm sick of hearing people continuously whine about this shit, yet be unable to forward a viable, if difficult, solution.
1: First Amendment. WE WIN! If the Federal government has ruled on 1A protection, they're screwed. 2: On The Internet. WE WIN! Once something's on the Internet, it's pretty much FOREVER. Hell, the original DefCAD stuff has been knocking around since the site was originally taken down. 3: They're essentially trying to ban CAD files and 3D printers. That's just NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
I think it's time to accept that trying to criminalize everything just because criminals could use it for nefarious purposes is about as effective as finding a live circuit by french-kissing a socket.
It comes from the same taxes that the welfare system does, and gets more done for less money.
BULLSHIT!
Right now there are over 110 million people in the welfare system, drawing various levels of benefits.
You're basically going TRIPLE the amount of people in such a system with UBI, And even with a modest monthly payment, you're going to explode the budget from what it already is.
Which means more taxes. And who's going to bear the brunt of that? Those who actually work for a living, to support a bunch of people who're gaming the system and remaining idle.
And again, it isn't paying people not to work. it's just paying people, whether they work or not. Not giving a single fuck whether you work or not is how it's cheaper than welfare, because there's no means testing or anything like that to determine whether or not you 'deserve' the money.
When you give people an option to obtain money through their own labor, or just take a stipend and not work, you're going to have a percentage of the population who are just going to opt for the stipend and not work. We ALREADY have this with welfare. AND IT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
You can continue lying about it being "cheaper than welfare". But it helps nothing.
No. Serfs had a fuckton of holidays. It tended to make them a lot less likely to turn their pitchforks on their owners. Granted, the work was more arduous, but the number of days worked was far less.
Says somebody who was never a serf. Someone who is living at a level of comfort unrivaled outside of first world countries and greater than any common citizen, serf or slave in all of history.
Please stop trying to barf up your sanitized history of how WONDERFUL things were when people were chattel.
Sorry but UBI inflates basic cost of living the way college loans inflate the cost of college education.
And yes, UBI is essentially paying people to not work. There will always be a segment of the population that will try to get by without working. You see it already in the present welfare state. This just exacerbates the problem.
And where does the money for UBI come from?
Whose pocket is the money being swiped from?
THINK about it.
Both guaranteed jobs and UBI are ugly redistributionist hacks that only damage the economy in the long run.
Fun fact. People used to die at 35 too. They used to die of all sorts of things that simply don't exist anymore, or are so well beaten back that cases are rare in First World countries.
Universal income is like college loans. It's a sum that sets a floor value for cost of living. Yet prices will artificially inflate to accommodate this sum after a while.
It's not that they suck. It's just no-skill manual labor has only marginal value in the job market.
Jobs like that are "starters" to encourage people to improve themselves, and teach them the major lesson of "Yes. It sucks. But you continue to show up ANYHOW!" Translation: Responsibility and Work Ethic.
Because YOU have an agreement with your employer to do the demeaing "fries" job. Only IDIOTS stay in that job and don't progress. Hell, the major franchises have PROGRAMS to help you advance your career beyond "Want fries?"
Shit jobs like that teach you, as a kid, one thing. Those types of no-skill jobs SUCK. And if you don't wanna be stuck doing that forever, YOU IMPROVE YOURSELF.
As for paying people not to work. It's not sustainable. It just isn't.
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*sheepish*
I staaaaaand corrected...
People are reticent to upgrade because the new version is yet another triumph of Obfuscation Of Functionality for Microsoft.
Let's hide shit under nearly invisible screen cues with no tooltips and watch people twist in the wind! WOO! FUNNY!
Okay. We're all gonna die! ... ...
What're we gonna do about it?
That DOESN'T involve destroying the world economy and killing 3/4th of the people on the planet...
Do we have any engineering solutions that might help?
Yeah...But those are HHHHARD!
Is that like "Hard"?
Yeah...but WORSE!
So why don't we get working on them NOW if they're that hard?
Because it's easier to scream "DOOOOM!" than actually do anything!
In short, i'm sick of hearing people continuously whine about this shit, yet be unable to forward a viable, if difficult, solution.
Nobody BUT MY BANK should have MY BANKING INFO.
PERIOD!
Another shitty virtual keyboard with only the absolute MINIMUM of haptic feedback!
Sorry I ever complained about chicklet keys! I TAKE IT ALL BACK!
1: First Amendment. WE WIN! If the Federal government has ruled on 1A protection, they're screwed.
2: On The Internet. WE WIN! Once something's on the Internet, it's pretty much FOREVER. Hell, the original DefCAD stuff has been knocking around since the site was originally taken down.
3: They're essentially trying to ban CAD files and 3D printers. That's just NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
I think it's time to accept that trying to criminalize everything just because criminals could use it for nefarious purposes is about as effective as finding a live circuit by french-kissing a socket.
How to make companies move just outside of SF in one easy step!
And, honestly, I'm not sure something like this could survive a challenge in court.
Sorry that you believe that you "deserve" to sit around, do nothing, and get paid for it.
I don't. If you want money, the ability to survive in society, and you don't have a condition that contraindicates work, YOU FUCKING WORK.
I don't believe in a redistributionist, freeloader society.
It comes from the same taxes that the welfare system does, and gets more done for less money.
BULLSHIT!
Right now there are over 110 million people in the welfare system, drawing various levels of benefits.
You're basically going TRIPLE the amount of people in such a system with UBI, And even with a modest monthly payment, you're going to explode the budget from what it already is.
Which means more taxes. And who's going to bear the brunt of that? Those who actually work for a living, to support a bunch of people who're gaming the system and remaining idle.
And again, it isn't paying people not to work. it's just paying people, whether they work or not. Not giving a single fuck whether you work or not is how it's cheaper than welfare, because there's no means testing or anything like that to determine whether or not you 'deserve' the money.
When you give people an option to obtain money through their own labor, or just take a stipend and not work, you're going to have a percentage of the population who are just going to opt for the stipend and not work. We ALREADY have this with welfare. AND IT IS UNACCEPTABLE.
You can continue lying about it being "cheaper than welfare". But it helps nothing.
No. Serfs had a fuckton of holidays. It tended to make them a lot less likely to turn their pitchforks on their owners. Granted, the work was more arduous, but the number of days worked was far less.
Says somebody who was never a serf.
Someone who is living at a level of comfort unrivaled outside of first world countries and greater than any common citizen, serf or slave in all of history.
Please stop trying to barf up your sanitized history of how WONDERFUL things were when people were chattel.
You don't want the honest answer.
Because, to you, an honest answer is "offensive".
There are already programs for people with actual mental disabilities.
I'm not talking about those.
Sorry but UBI inflates basic cost of living the way college loans inflate the cost of college education.
And yes, UBI is essentially paying people to not work. There will always be a segment of the population that will try to get by without working.
You see it already in the present welfare state. This just exacerbates the problem.
And where does the money for UBI come from?
Whose pocket is the money being swiped from?
THINK about it.
Both guaranteed jobs and UBI are ugly redistributionist hacks that only damage the economy in the long run.
"UBI is issued whether or not you work."
Yep. And where's the money come from?
Also, at that point it works o the economy like school loans.
College degrees didn't get THAT much more expensive. They amounts demanded inflated simply because there was a known amount available.
UBI will do the same thing to basic cost of living.
Yeah. And where does the money come from?
UBI works on the economy like school loans. Prices simply inflate to encompass the available money.
And I'm sorry, I'm opposed to any program that basically pays people not to work.
Yes. The "idle" rich. They weren't being paid by the government not to work...
Elon Musk, Tim Sweeny, various Trump-kin. They're all modern analogues.
And exactly where did I say I didn't have a problem with the welfare state?
Bullshit.
It was all day, every day.
You either worked to bring in your sustenance, or you brought in enough all at once to last you for a while.
Fun fact. People used to die at 35 too.
They used to die of all sorts of things that simply don't exist anymore, or are so well beaten back that cases are rare in First World countries.
Universal income is like college loans. It's a sum that sets a floor value for cost of living. Yet prices will artificially inflate to accommodate this sum after a while.
It's not that they suck. It's just no-skill manual labor has only marginal value in the job market.
Jobs like that are "starters" to encourage people to improve themselves, and teach them the major lesson of "Yes. It sucks. But you continue to show up ANYHOW!" Translation: Responsibility and Work Ethic.
Because YOU have an agreement with your employer to do the demeaing "fries" job. Only IDIOTS stay in that job and don't progress.
Hell, the major franchises have PROGRAMS to help you advance your career beyond "Want fries?"
Shit jobs like that teach you, as a kid, one thing.
Those types of no-skill jobs SUCK. And if you don't wanna be stuck doing that forever, YOU IMPROVE YOURSELF.
As for paying people not to work.
It's not sustainable. It just isn't.
Both are "shit sandwich" choices.
Paying people not to work destroys the ability to achieve.
Putting people into do-nothing jobs destroys the desire to work.
Both damage the economy.
One by raising cost of living to compensate for unearned payouts.
The other by depressing wages.
So, which shit sandwich will YOU take a bite of?
Hold your breath, cram your head up your own ass, and then count to infinity by prime numbers only.
And if you goof, hang up and restart this call.
While I prize what little anonymity I have, I realize there are people who abuse such things.
And in a case like this, I'm kinda glad the truth came out.
Not just "no". HELL NO!