> It's a nice hack but fails if I get login.c and the compiler from independent sources
Or cross-check multiple independent compilers. Even if the login.c equivalent relies on Gnu C extensions, it would be extremely hard to arrange that multiple versions of gcc all built backdoors into themselves when used to compile each other. If you also allow for stage1 of gcc being compiled with other compilers, and for cross compilation, it gets even harder.
At a previous job, after a takeover, the new management tried putting a contract in place for everyone that had a similar "anything you think of anytime belongs to us" clause, along with "you won't work for anyone else in the entire computer industry for three years after leaving us" and "you won't talk to anyone who works for anyone else in the industry about anything, ever, without keeping written minutes" (that last one went down especially well with people with spouses woring for other computer companies). One piece of the negotiations went roughly: "That's unfair restraint of trade and not actually enforceable." "We know, we don't really mean it." "So you won't mind dropping that clause." "No, we need to keep it just in case."
But eventually, after over half the workforce had returned the contracts with parts struck out, they gave in.
No lawyers were involved.
This was in the UK, and one of the things that we got struck out was the agreement that Delaware state law would govern the employment contract just because the US company that owned us had been bought by a US company.
> I also don't understand how the BBC can be accused of ANYTHING
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3434661.s tm "BBC castigated in Hutton report
Lord Hutton has criticised the BBC as he cleared the government of embellishing its Iraq weapons dossier in his long-awaited report on the death of Dr David Kelly."
Yes, that's the BBC reporting criticism of the BBC. They accept they made mistakes.
> The mixture is not heavily filled with sugar or caramel (like Coke).
Allegedly the USAF spec for instruments etc. to be used in aircraft cockpits require that it withstand Coke spills. The acidity is even more of a problem than the stickyness, and being carbonated (fizzy) can also force it into places water wouldn't go.
> Or perhaps he drives a car that gets 40+mpg and carries 16 gallons. I'm not sure why, but they looked at that 300 mile range and called the range "extremely limited".
After driving 300 miles in your Nissan, you can find a gas station, fill up, and be good for another 300 miles in a few minutes. With the electric vehicle, after 300 miles you probably need a recharge that takes hours and recharge points aren't as easy to find as gas stations, or you need somewhere that will swap out a whole battery pack for a charged one (which probably means staying within 150 miles of a central depot).
On the other hand, how often do you drive 600 miles without a long break? (Even if when you refuel the car you also get some food and coffee, use the toilets, and swap driver with passenger whose been napping, that's a lot less time than it typically takes to charge a battery pack.)
> This was in the UK and they have really good HDTV coverage now, 20 channels all for free
This must be a different UK from the one I live in, where the 20 digital channels on Freeview might be better than analogue in some areas, and have some channels available in widescreen when the analogue version isn't, but they aren't high definition.
(A friend of mine bought himself a 60" plasma screen for Christmas. I'm jealous, but there's no way I can afford something like that just now (it's only a couple of years since I bought a new TV), so I hope you are right about the price of large flat screens keeping dropping.)
> no TIVO like boxes available for sale in Canada (except one that is built into a satellite reciever).
Same in the UK. If you have Sky satellite, there's the Sky+, but you can no longer buy Tivo boxes (they still support existing subscribers).
The Pace Twin is supposed to get a seven day EPG soon, but even then won't really have the power of a Tivo from what I understand. (Though a home-built might not either.) http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=5 d932448.03 03170444.3313ad18%40posting.google.com
> listed the specialized language... only had passing knowledge of it. > They spent this entire time building credible expertise in the language. > I wonder how often this happens.
Listing things they have only passing knowledge of - very frequent. Taking time out to actually learn it before starting the job - very rare.
> If 1 were prime, you would have to add one prime to ever count of prime factors.
Counting one as prime would mean there was no longer a unique prime factorization, because you could add one as many times as you liked to the list of prime factors.
At the moment, the prime factorization of 12 is 3*2*2. If you allow one, it could be 3*2*2*1 or 3*2*2*1*1*1*1.
Why this matters, I forget, but apparently if you are a mathematician it does.
> The "two minute deal" was the time she spent with you. I suspect more time was spent actually "reading" the results of the EKG.
Which would have been (legitimately) chargeable as part of the cost of doing the EKG. The implication is that that part of the bill was for the "consultation" explaining what an EKG was, _as well_ as the actual EKG.
From http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html which has a lot on background on TC / TCG / LaGrande / NGSCB / Longhorn / Palladium / TCPA / whatever they are calling it next week:
"In the US Department of Defense, a `trusted system or component' is defined as `one which can break the security policy'. This might seem counter-intuitive at first, but just stop to think about it."
You should perhaps make it clear to non-UK readers that there aren't cameras on literally every corner, and nor are they really connected together in a national grid.
> assuming, again, that we don't care what he uses at home
He can use it at work too. The whole of Microsoft can use it at work, so long as they don't distribute it. (I doubt they do, since they can presumably legally use any Microsoft software they want for free, with full source, and convenient access to full support.)
Does "primary education" mean something different in the US than in the UK, or are 5 to 9 year olds really expected to cope with formal proofs of program correctness?
> > Paper is better than electronic for long term storage.
> That's arguably true provided you have a printing press... most things written more than a thousand years ago don't exist today
And the electronic versions from more than a thousand years ago have lasted better? I think you can assume that if electronic storage is an option, then printing technology is available.
> > Everyone, including Bill Gates, has more resources at their disposal, because of the open source community.
> That will be true when Bill is willing to GPL his software.
He can _use_ GPL'ed software now, he just can't include it in non-GPLed products. I doubt he does, but it's there if he wants to. BSD-style software has certainly been useful to him - how long did it take Hotmail to move to running on Microsoft products?
Of course it's a troll. Not was switching to Netscape because IE was unstable crap just as common as switching the other way back when IE3 was around, he obviously hasn't read what jmz wrote about Netscape's code and why he got out.
All existing shaft drives are _less_ efficient than a reasonably maintained chain drive, because there is more friction in the bevel gears on the shaft than there is in the chain. You can make the shaft out of whatever material you like, and it won't help that problem.
> not only outranks all US states in terms of population, but easily in terms of GNP too
I'm not sure I'd say the UK _easily_ outranks California in GNP. It's bigger, but not very much bigger. http://www.lao.ca.gov/2002/cal_facts/econ .html
> Might as well chuck Ireland in too
Because America doesn't have enough terrorist problems unless the IRA can be persuaded to join in too?
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> It's a nice hack but fails if I get login.c and the compiler from independent sources
Or cross-check multiple independent compilers. Even if the login.c equivalent relies on Gnu C extensions, it would be extremely hard to arrange that multiple versions of gcc all built backdoors into themselves when used to compile each other. If you also allow for stage1 of gcc being compiled with other compilers, and for cross compilation, it gets even harder.
At a previous job, after a takeover, the new management tried putting a contract in place for everyone that had a similar "anything you think of anytime belongs to us" clause, along with "you won't work for anyone else in the entire computer industry for three years after leaving us" and "you won't talk to anyone who works for anyone else in the industry about anything, ever, without keeping written minutes" (that last one went down especially well with people with spouses woring for other computer companies).
One piece of the negotiations went roughly:
"That's unfair restraint of trade and not actually enforceable."
"We know, we don't really mean it."
"So you won't mind dropping that clause."
"No, we need to keep it just in case."
But eventually, after over half the workforce had returned the contracts with parts struck out, they gave in.
No lawyers were involved.
This was in the UK, and one of the things that we got struck out was the agreement that Delaware state law would govern the employment contract just because the US company that owned us had been bought by a US company.
> I also don't understand how the BBC can be accused of ANYTHING
s tm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3434661.
"BBC castigated in Hutton report
Lord Hutton has criticised the BBC as he cleared the government of embellishing its Iraq weapons dossier in his long-awaited report on the death of Dr David Kelly."
Yes, that's the BBC reporting criticism of the BBC. They accept they made mistakes.
"complicit in his death" is bullshit though.
> The Times is read by people who actually do run the country.
That's the pre-Murdoch Times, of course.
> (And before you bring up the Lockerbie bombing, note that that occured after Reagan bombed Libya.)
t ory/0,3604,509 150,00.html
Not to mention the doubts about whether Libya was really responsible.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/s
> The mixture is not heavily filled with sugar or caramel (like Coke).
Allegedly the USAF spec for instruments etc. to be used in aircraft cockpits require that it withstand Coke spills. The acidity is even more of a problem than the stickyness, and being carbonated (fizzy) can also force it into places water wouldn't go.
> Or perhaps he drives a car that gets 40+mpg and carries 16 gallons. I'm not sure why, but they looked at that 300 mile range and called the range "extremely limited".
After driving 300 miles in your Nissan, you can find a gas station, fill up, and be good for another 300 miles in a few minutes. With the electric vehicle, after 300 miles you probably need a recharge that takes hours and recharge points aren't as easy to find as gas stations, or you need somewhere that will swap out a whole battery pack for a charged one (which probably means staying within 150 miles of a central depot).
On the other hand, how often do you drive 600 miles without a long break? (Even if when you refuel the car you also get some food and coffee, use the toilets, and swap driver with passenger whose been napping, that's a lot less time than it typically takes to charge a battery pack.)
> This was in the UK and they have really good HDTV coverage now, 20 channels all for free
This must be a different UK from the one I live in, where the 20 digital channels on Freeview might be better than analogue in some areas, and have some channels available in widescreen when the analogue version isn't, but they aren't high definition.
(A friend of mine bought himself a 60" plasma screen for Christmas. I'm jealous, but there's no way I can afford something like that just now (it's only a couple of years since I bought a new TV), so I hope you are right about the price of large flat screens keeping dropping.)
> getting more credit cards is the solution to personal financial problems.
It's not? Shit, _now_ you tell me....
> I'm no expert, but it seems to me that if the PTO is doing its job right
_If_.
Hands up everyone who thinks the PTO is doing its job right.
> no TIVO like boxes available for sale in Canada (except one that is built into a satellite reciever).
5 d932448.03 03170444.3313ad18%40posting.google.com
Same in the UK. If you have Sky satellite, there's the Sky+, but you can no longer buy Tivo boxes (they still support existing subscribers).
The Pace Twin is supposed to get a seven day EPG soon, but even then won't really have the power of a Tivo from what I understand. (Though a home-built might not either.)
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=
> listed the specialized language ... only had passing knowledge of it.
> They spent this entire time building credible expertise in the language.
> I wonder how often this happens.
Listing things they have only passing knowledge of - very frequent.
Taking time out to actually learn it before starting the job - very rare.
> We carried shoeboxes full of punched cards over to the card reader. Woe unto those unfortunate souls who dropped theirs.
Put labels on every card so you sort them easily. Okay, it makes it look like you write BASIC, but it saves a lot of time when you drop that showbox.
Though I guess it's a bit late to suggest that now.
> If 1 were prime, you would have to add one prime to ever count of prime factors.
Counting one as prime would mean there was no longer a unique prime factorization, because you could add one as many times as you liked to the list of prime factors.
At the moment, the prime factorization of 12 is 3*2*2. If you allow one, it could be 3*2*2*1 or 3*2*2*1*1*1*1.
Why this matters, I forget, but apparently if you are a mathematician it does.
> The "two minute deal" was the time she spent with you. I suspect more time was spent actually "reading" the results of the EKG.
Which would have been (legitimately) chargeable as part of the cost of doing the EKG. The implication is that that part of the bill was for the "consultation" explaining what an EKG was, _as well_ as the actual EKG.
From http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/tcpa-faq.html which has a lot on background on TC / TCG / LaGrande / NGSCB / Longhorn / Palladium / TCPA / whatever they are calling it next week:
"In the US Department of Defense, a `trusted system or component' is defined as `one which can break the security policy'. This might seem counter-intuitive at first, but just stop to think about it."
You should perhaps make it clear to non-UK readers that there aren't cameras on literally every corner, and nor are they really connected together in a national grid.
> assuming, again, that we don't care what he uses at home
He can use it at work too. The whole of Microsoft can use it at work, so long as they don't distribute it.
(I doubt they do, since they can presumably legally use any Microsoft software they want for free, with full source, and convenient access to full support.)
> Then you had to prove (in D. Knuth's way)
Does "primary education" mean something different in the US than in the UK, or are 5 to 9 year olds really expected to cope with formal proofs of program correctness?
> > Paper is better than electronic for long term storage.
... most things written more than a thousand years ago don't exist today
> That's arguably true provided you have a printing press
And the electronic versions from more than a thousand years ago have lasted better? I think you can assume that if electronic storage is an option, then printing technology is available.
> > Everyone, including Bill Gates, has more resources at their disposal, because of the open source community.
> That will be true when Bill is willing to GPL his software.
He can _use_ GPL'ed software now, he just can't include it in non-GPLed products. I doubt he does, but it's there if he wants to.
BSD-style software has certainly been useful to him - how long did it take Hotmail to move to running on Microsoft products?
Of course it's a troll. Not was switching to Netscape because IE was unstable crap just as common as switching the other way back when IE3 was around, he obviously hasn't read what jmz wrote about Netscape's code and why he got out.
> There's a lot of unnecessary friction there
"unnecessary" implies there's a way to avoid it.
All existing shaft drives are _less_ efficient than a reasonably maintained chain drive, because there is more friction in the bevel gears on the shaft than there is in the chain. You can make the shaft out of whatever material you like, and it won't help that problem.
> not only outranks all US states in terms of population, but easily in terms of GNP too
I'm not sure I'd say the UK _easily_ outranks California in GNP. It's bigger, but not very much bigger.
http://www.lao.ca.gov/2002/cal_facts/eco
> Might as well chuck Ireland in too
Because America doesn't have enough terrorist problems unless the IRA can be persuaded to join in too?
> If the pair of boxes has to be in the same building, that isn't going to be a big seller. Bob would just walk down and HAND Alice the data.
They claim 120km range.