It's actually pretty nice having corporate sponsorship when you're on a gaming team. I used to be on Pandemic's CS team way back in the day and our manager happened to be the owner of the Arkansas franchise of Subway. All of our trips to Dallas for the CPL were paid for, and plane tickets were bought for me to fly to Arkansas for local tournaments. Saved me lots of money. All we had to do was wear a "Pandemic" shirt with a subway logo on it when we went to the CPL... big deal. It's nice when you actually want make little cash off of professional gaming. It's really hard to do that with out some sort of sponsorship.
There is a lot of people out there who really believe pro gaming will become mainstream someday, I'm a little skeptical of this, but you never know.
Actually, you bring up a good point. I wish they also asked the programmers how many hours they worked per week. I want to know if the game industry is as rough as people say it is.
The parents post isn't offtopic. This is a reference to a South Park episode which was parody of the 2004 elections, in which the SP residents had to choose to elect a turd sandwhich or a giant douche. A lot of people felt like they were just choosing the lesser of two evils, and I think the poster was trying to say that choosing between Best Buy and Circuit City isn't much different.
Well if you're talking about CS 1.6, it's very hard for your hardware to suck enough to give you a disadvantage on a game running a modified Quake 1 engine. That's probably why 1.6 is still more popular than source. Most machines sold in the last few years can handle CS source pretty easily, though.
It's not all about hardware, but it has to be good enough. As long as your ping is below 50, no loss, and your fps is above 40, then the people that beat you aren't beating you because they have better hardware.
That may be true for deathmatch and 1v1 oriented type games. Hell, even CS pub servers you can get away with the knowledge you mentioned. I would love to see you get a group of 5 people (with only the skills you mentioned) with sub 20 pings beat a CAL-invite CS team with 56k modems. With the lag, you might be able to get a few rounds off them, but you would still get destroyed. What seperates CS from other FPS games is the teamwork and communication required. On top of that to be thinking about strategies and adjusting them according to your opponents. Having a top-notch awper on your team is great, but if he doesn't tell you that the bomb is down before he dies, he just lost the round for your team.
Here's an exercise for the reader. Go start or join a band that plays live original music. Go try to make money at it. Then, and only then, can you spout off on the Internet about how wonderful the world will be when no one can make money off selling recordings anymore. Then, and only then, do you have the experience to talk about how wonderful a life of slogging through gigs will be. Actually, us readers can spout off on the Internet on just about anything we want. That's what makes the internet so great!:)
Anonymity + public forum = people saying what they want. Get used to it.
Also, it seems common them that people on slashdot like to use their personal experience as representation of what's happening in general. I consider that very flawed logic. For example, I know some musicians that travel around and play in smaller venues. While they weren't necessarily making bank, they were making a living. Now is that the case for everyone? I don't know, but it shows that just because you had it rough doesn't mean everyone else did too.
I just have this hope that someday that the artists at the top of the charts won't be there because of their looks or because of what they represent. I hope that the musicians will be at the top are there because they make good music. I know, I'm crazy. I also have this insane idea that maybe musicians shouldn't be getting payed millions of dollars, just because they got lucky. Right now, this isn't the case. It seems to me, for a musician to "make it big" they have to have the right connections or have to be in the right place at the right time to get signed up with a big record label. Changes need to happen if we want this stop. I think people refusing to buy CD's with one decent song, and 12 other shitty songs that sound exactly the same is a start to this change. Maybe people refusing to go to Clear Channel venues would be the next step.
Actually, there's really not that much difference in fucntionality. Direct3d does allow you to get a little bit intimate with the machine these days, but it's much more complicated to program in. It takes many more lines of code to get an app initialized using Direct3d than it does openGL. You're right to question "MSFanBoi", he gives you links but he doesn't even mention that even Wikipedia is questioning the neutrality of the topic. OpenGL vs. Direct3d debates have been pretty heated lately. Direct3d has gotten alot better then when it first came out, but OpenGl still has some advantages.
I've had experience using both API's and I can tell you that OpenGL is much easier to work with. But I can understand why companies would want to use Direct3d if they need to create a really effeicent graphics engine.
Dude, you should have seen his play before the scandal. Great actors and actresses, expensive props, and a elegant light show to boot. Then that horrible scandal in Eve happened and everyone became very upset. Everyone stopped pouring their hearts and soul into the show like they used to, and everyone ended up leaving. Fucking CCP.
The Iraq adventure has cost far more than $300 billion and if we were not there that money would not have gone to NASA. That money would have gone to more government cheese for the poor or some other program.
That's because the leaders of our government are stupid. If we voted for the right leaders, then it is possible that money would be going to more important things like schools or even NASA programs.
Prove that I don't have a wonderful magical blue puppy (fluent in five languages, including the long-dead tongue of the Hittites) in my living room. You can't?
Do you see the problem? The burden of proof is on the claimant, not the claimee. Agnosticism is not a logically tenable position to hold.
No, your example shows that atheism is not a logically tenable position to be held. Only an atheist would want to try to disprove your magical blue puppy. Agnostics wouldn't care. They aren't going to try to disprove the existence of your puppy, but at the same time they aren't going to assume you are right.
I agree with your parent poster. Agnostics are the only ones that admit that we have no fucking clue what happens after we die. This is a comfortable position for some people because it's impossible for them to be wrong. In fact, I think being agnostic is the ONLY logically tenable position. If there isn't enough evidence to prove or disprove something, then why would you commit to a decision? Sounds pretty illogical to me.
Ummm, I'm guessing you haven't been to a gym in a while. The treadmills at all the gyms I've been to run on electricity. The belts will move regardless if you're running on them or not, meaning that there is some sort "other" energy source powering it.
Maybe you're getting treadmills confused with stationary bikes. Those generally don't require electricity and the display only works if you're pedaling fast enough.
If you kicked ass on public servers you probably were close to pro-level. I never played Q3 at the pro-level but everytime a "pro" would come onto a pub server I'd end up going neck in neck with him. A friend of a friend of mine who went by the nick "Undertow" was supposedly pro-level and I didn't have any problem keeping up with him. Sigh, I think every person that has play a multiplayer FPS has a story like this. He probably wasn't trying that hard. Either that or he was a "pro" in the sense that he won 15 bucks once at a local tournament. If either of you or Undertow tried to play anyone like Fatal1ty during his prime Q3A days, you would be hard pressed to get a frag on him.
I was one of those CS pros where I made a few bucks here and there, but we never go too far at the CPL. I rarely tried hard in pubs, but 95% of the time would come out on top by far. The only non-hacking people that ever got higher than me in pubs, were either people on my team, or other people I probably already know from Cal-i or Cal-premier.
Difficulty? WoW is made for casual gamers. I've gotten an alt to level sixty (pre BoC) in less than 96 hours played time. No, WoW is made for both casual and hardcore gamers. You make it seem like the game ended at level 60. Most hardcore players in my guild would say that the game began at level 60. Did you ever make High Warlord/Grand Marshall? Did you ever complete Ahn`Qiraj or Nax? Did you get all of your tier3 gear? If you did all of this, maybe then you can talk about how WoW is for casual players.
With the release of BC, there is now even more hardcore content. Arena PVP is looking to turn out some very serious CS-like tournaments, and the instances in heroic mode are giving even the top guilds a very hard time. I don't think there is any guild that is even close to being able to do Mount Hyjal yet.
Don't even get me STARTED on Eve Online... There are bugs affecting everyday gameplay that have existed pretty much since launch. Every patch breaks something that previously worked, and getting acknowledgement of the bugs from the devs is like pulling teeth. While I agree there are quite a few broken things in Eve, I would have to say that SWG takes the cake for being rushed out. I payed to play the SWG beta. While it had it's fun moments, I would say 90% of the quests I tried where bugged in someway, and I couldn't even finish them because the mobs the quest was supposed to generate never appeared. It was also very unbalanced and messy. When they announced that it was going to go retail, I seriously could not believe it. I thought it needed at least another year worth of polish. There were some really innovative features in the game, but it was obvious that there wasn't that much thought being directed towards refining them.
When will companies start following in Blizzard's footsteps? I think pretty much every game Blizzard has released has gone through at least a small pushback of a release date. I think Starcraft went through a 2 year delay. While delays make me want to pull my hair out, I rather wait however long it takes to play a fun game, instead of immediately getting a game that isn't worth playing. Why don't other game companies understand this?
Did you not read all of my post? I did pay thousands of dollars for a laptop that doesn't support DX10. Why? Because I'm confident that even 5 years down the road, most games will still be be able to run on DX9. My company doesn't buy gaming laptops.
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It's actually pretty nice having corporate sponsorship when you're on a gaming team. I used to be on Pandemic's CS team way back in the day and our manager happened to be the owner of the Arkansas franchise of Subway. All of our trips to Dallas for the CPL were paid for, and plane tickets were bought for me to fly to Arkansas for local tournaments. Saved me lots of money. All we had to do was wear a "Pandemic" shirt with a subway logo on it when we went to the CPL... big deal. It's nice when you actually want make little cash off of professional gaming. It's really hard to do that with out some sort of sponsorship.
There is a lot of people out there who really believe pro gaming will become mainstream someday, I'm a little skeptical of this, but you never know.
Actually, you bring up a good point. I wish they also asked the programmers how many hours they worked per week. I want to know if the game industry is as rough as people say it is.
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The parents post isn't offtopic. This is a reference to a South Park episode which was parody of the 2004 elections, in which the SP residents had to choose to elect a turd sandwhich or a giant douche. A lot of people felt like they were just choosing the lesser of two evils, and I think the poster was trying to say that choosing between Best Buy and Circuit City isn't much different.
Who gives a flying fuck?
You spelled Gandalf wrong. Your nerd license is revoked...hand it over...now!
This marklar is not marklar! How dare you mod this marklar as marklar. I hope you damn marklar go to marklar.
Well if you're talking about CS 1.6, it's very hard for your hardware to suck enough to give you a disadvantage on a game running a modified Quake 1 engine. That's probably why 1.6 is still more popular than source. Most machines sold in the last few years can handle CS source pretty easily, though.
It's not all about hardware, but it has to be good enough. As long as your ping is below 50, no loss, and your fps is above 40, then the people that beat you aren't beating you because they have better hardware.
That may be true for deathmatch and 1v1 oriented type games. Hell, even CS pub servers you can get away with the knowledge you mentioned. I would love to see you get a group of 5 people (with only the skills you mentioned) with sub 20 pings beat a CAL-invite CS team with 56k modems. With the lag, you might be able to get a few rounds off them, but you would still get destroyed. What seperates CS from other FPS games is the teamwork and communication required. On top of that to be thinking about strategies and adjusting them according to your opponents. Having a top-notch awper on your team is great, but if he doesn't tell you that the bomb is down before he dies, he just lost the round for your team.
Anonymity + public forum = people saying what they want. Get used to it.
Also, it seems common them that people on slashdot like to use their personal experience as representation of what's happening in general. I consider that very flawed logic. For example, I know some musicians that travel around and play in smaller venues. While they weren't necessarily making bank, they were making a living. Now is that the case for everyone? I don't know, but it shows that just because you had it rough doesn't mean everyone else did too.
I just have this hope that someday that the artists at the top of the charts won't be there because of their looks or because of what they represent. I hope that the musicians will be at the top are there because they make good music. I know, I'm crazy. I also have this insane idea that maybe musicians shouldn't be getting payed millions of dollars, just because they got lucky. Right now, this isn't the case. It seems to me, for a musician to "make it big" they have to have the right connections or have to be in the right place at the right time to get signed up with a big record label. Changes need to happen if we want this stop. I think people refusing to buy CD's with one decent song, and 12 other shitty songs that sound exactly the same is a start to this change. Maybe people refusing to go to Clear Channel venues would be the next step.
Actually, there's really not that much difference in fucntionality. Direct3d does allow you to get a little bit intimate with the machine these days, but it's much more complicated to program in. It takes many more lines of code to get an app initialized using Direct3d than it does openGL. You're right to question "MSFanBoi", he gives you links but he doesn't even mention that even Wikipedia is questioning the neutrality of the topic. OpenGL vs. Direct3d debates have been pretty heated lately. Direct3d has gotten alot better then when it first came out, but OpenGl still has some advantages.
I've had experience using both API's and I can tell you that OpenGL is much easier to work with. But I can understand why companies would want to use Direct3d if they need to create a really effeicent graphics engine.
I play both Eve and WoW. I know some other people who do the same.
Dude, you should have seen his play before the scandal. Great actors and actresses, expensive props, and a elegant light show to boot. Then that horrible scandal in Eve happened and everyone became very upset. Everyone stopped pouring their hearts and soul into the show like they used to, and everyone ended up leaving. Fucking CCP.
The Iraq adventure has cost far more than $300 billion and if we were not there that money would not have gone to NASA. That money would have gone to more government cheese for the poor or some other program.
That's because the leaders of our government are stupid. If we voted for the right leaders, then it is possible that money would be going to more important things like schools or even NASA programs.
Prove that I don't have a wonderful magical blue puppy (fluent in five languages, including the long-dead tongue of the Hittites) in my living room. You can't?
Do you see the problem? The burden of proof is on the claimant, not the claimee. Agnosticism is not a logically tenable position to hold.
No, your example shows that atheism is not a logically tenable position to be held. Only an atheist would want to try to disprove your magical blue puppy. Agnostics wouldn't care. They aren't going to try to disprove the existence of your puppy, but at the same time they aren't going to assume you are right.
I agree with your parent poster. Agnostics are the only ones that admit that we have no fucking clue what happens after we die. This is a comfortable position for some people because it's impossible for them to be wrong. In fact, I think being agnostic is the ONLY logically tenable position. If there isn't enough evidence to prove or disprove something, then why would you commit to a decision? Sounds pretty illogical to me.
Ummm, I'm guessing you haven't been to a gym in a while. The treadmills at all the gyms I've been to run on electricity. The belts will move regardless if you're running on them or not, meaning that there is some sort "other" energy source powering it.
Maybe you're getting treadmills confused with stationary bikes. Those generally don't require electricity and the display only works if you're pedaling fast enough.
This all just speculation, but here's my prediction:
Warhammer 40k will compete with a Starcraft title for the top spot in the MMORTS market.
Yeah I may be crazy, but I said it first bitches!
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Fire people that aren't doing their job.
I was one of those CS pros where I made a few bucks here and there, but we never go too far at the CPL. I rarely tried hard in pubs, but 95% of the time would come out on top by far. The only non-hacking people that ever got higher than me in pubs, were either people on my team, or other people I probably already know from Cal-i or Cal-premier.
With the release of BC, there is now even more hardcore content. Arena PVP is looking to turn out some very serious CS-like tournaments, and the instances in heroic mode are giving even the top guilds a very hard time. I don't think there is any guild that is even close to being able to do Mount Hyjal yet.
When will companies start following in Blizzard's footsteps? I think pretty much every game Blizzard has released has gone through at least a small pushback of a release date. I think Starcraft went through a 2 year delay. While delays make me want to pull my hair out, I rather wait however long it takes to play a fun game, instead of immediately getting a game that isn't worth playing. Why don't other game companies understand this?
Did you not read all of my post? I did pay thousands of dollars for a laptop that doesn't support DX10. Why? Because I'm confident that even 5 years down the road, most games will still be be able to run on DX9. My company doesn't buy gaming laptops.