This case gives us a great window into what a world without copyright protection would look like: everyone ripping off everyone else's code. There got to be a compromise that works for both the GPL and the RIAA, so end users (us) win.
The compromise is to require completely open source code from all software vendors. People will go to the place that has the best results for them, and if everything is open source, we don't have to worry about people "stealing" things - it becomes easy for everyone to see if everyone else is using or taking their code, and particularly inspired developers will add to the code.
It would be like books now - there's copyright on them thar books and if you copy it and sell it under a different book title, it's plainly obvious.
Closed source is a way for a company to hide their dubious practices. It's when shit is closed source like what microsoft normally does that it takes a lot of effort to tell if they're standing on the backs of the hardworking goliath that is open source developers.
So what would happen if, (creating a trivially ridiculous case for the sake of argument) I created a "hello world" application, GPL'd it, handed the project over to another maintainer, and that maintainer rewrote it to play movies? Would I still get copyleft claims if someone then broke the GPL on that resulting source?
What, exactly, is the thing that is GPL'd? The name of the project? The _spirit_ of the project?
This already happens to some extent with friends who are part of a multi-level marketing type company (Avon, Mary Kay, etc..) or with school/church fundraisers. The only difference here is that it is digital and therefore much easier to ignore, and much harder to guilt trip someone into purchasing to help out a cause or a friend
I had someone try to get me into that once. I didn't, and he's still struggling, the poor bastard.
Hey, works for me... Microsoft gave me a free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit for hosting a Windows 7 party... I am influencial, I get free software!
Is... that like a key party? Do you swap OSes? I sure hope you got a better one than windows 7, she's a total dog.
Ah yes, the vast Canadian Empire. At one time covering up to 6.7% of the land area of the earth. It was a fearsome empire with the children trained from birth to hurl rocks across frozen lakes and ice fish.
You forgot kicking ass at hockey and making love in canoes.
Seeing as how it was based on common law it may trace its ancestry back to Britain and might well be relevent in Canada, seeing as it's part of the empire.
Commonwealth. We are not part of any empire save our own.
To get the market share they need AND avoid hardware freeloaders, Skiff will have to offer a hardware + 3 year multi-magazine subscription bundle for at least $10/month, probably $15. They can beat out paper magazines by giving people who'd normally subscribe to only one or two magazines, access to dozens for the same price, creating a higher perceived value.
I can tell you right now, no amount of cost savings is going to get me to buy something built for publishers - this implies to me they don't care about consumers, and they can revoke content or make me view ads when all I really want to do is read stuff by content providers - I'm fine with having full page ads, but I need to be able to skip them - and something designed for publishers is not going to allow that.
Speaking of which, I don't think I've hit a site that's been slashdotted in a long time.. Am I just reading the news too early/late or is this phenomena on the way out?
I went to Bletchley and was supremely impressed with the amount of computing history they had there! Plus I got a really cool mug that changes colour when you put hot liquids in it!
Do you think you should be able to buy a bundled package.. a complete computer from a vendor that was sold to you for $X price.. and return the Monitor or Keyboard, in exchange for a percentage of the price equivalent to the FMV of a monitor?
(Even though the 'monitor' wasn't an option, and its price is built into the bundle)
I'm a big fan of both Thorvalds and Obama, but I don't believe either of them deserves a Nobel Peace Prize... yet.
What do you mean yet? I doubt highly that Linus is going to do something in the future that warrants the prize. Obama maybe, but that's expected so I still don't think he should get it.
No one get's a soda, they get a coke, even when that 'coke' is a Pepsi. When was the last time anyone asked for a tissue instead of a Kleenex? And when you want something copied, you 'xerox' it. No one I know under the age of 40 searches for anything one the web, they 'google' it.
I use tissues to blow my nose, I search for things on google, I drink pop, and I copy documents at a copier. I'm under 30.
G.W. Bush, for example, was a Yale grad, with roughly the same level of education as the evil intellectial Clinton (either of them). Obama actually has LESS time in the crusty halls of Ivy League academe as G.W. Bush.
Nicely illustrates how much one of those degrees says about your education, doesn't it?
Hey, if they get to call their plan unlimited as in limited, that means I get to call it a plan that I'm going to purchase as in not purchase, right? Look ma! I can speak like a lawyer too!
Just imagine the amount of bashers if the news would had read;
Windows 7 is causing outrage and frustration, with early adopters wishing they'd stuck with previous versions of the Windows. Blank and flickering screens, failure to recognize hard drives, defaulting to the old kernel, and failure to get encryption running are taking their toll, as early adopters turn to the web for answers and log fresh bug reports in Windows forums.
This again comes from the fact that both Windows and Mac OS X releases are properly tested and maintained and tend to be in more professional quality.
But why don't the Linux distros go to same lenghts? It shouldn't be impossible, unless of course, commercial projects are maintained more professionally.
I doubt it's less professional on Linux than it is on Mac or Windows. The real fact of the matter is, Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows all have hiccoughs on the first day of release. How they deal with those hiccoughs are what really matters.
And some of us have customers who have a hard enough time grasping the concept of "strong passwords", let alone key-based authentication... And heaven forbid a client's computer crashes and you have to help them set it up again over the phone...
Should these same people have SSH access to your system then? It's like letting someone into your house who then proceeds to leave the door unlocked and opens the windows with a big neon sign that says "FREE SHIT"
Talk to your fucking doctor before you make any decisions on whether to take a vaccine or not - some anonymous schlomo on Slashdot should never influence your opinion on matters of health - your DOCTOR is that person.
Whoever thinks that cloud computing is for desktops is an idiot. The best thing it's for is research and large or multiple small scale commercial computations. With cloud computing as a desktop you would have to rely on at least three factors: connection, client, and server. With a desktop you only need to rely on one thing: the client - the connection and server is not as important if you can still do your work on the client. I don't know about the rest of you, but my connection is _less_ reliable than my computer and I wouldn't trust my data on someone else's server.
Actually, they will only gather that data if you allow them to.
According to TFA:
The search giant is testing a scheme where mobile phone users simply sign up to My Location on Google Maps, start the program before getting in the car, and then simply set off.
So, you need to sign in, and start the application before they can actually gather any information about traffic jams. I can also see people screwing with their data by getting into a car, being dropped off at a certain point, and then walking the rest of the way.
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This case gives us a great window into what a world without copyright protection would look like: everyone ripping off everyone else's code. There got to be a compromise that works for both the GPL and the RIAA, so end users (us) win.
The compromise is to require completely open source code from all software vendors. People will go to the place that has the best results for them, and if everything is open source, we don't have to worry about people "stealing" things - it becomes easy for everyone to see if everyone else is using or taking their code, and particularly inspired developers will add to the code.
It would be like books now - there's copyright on them thar books and if you copy it and sell it under a different book title, it's plainly obvious.
Closed source is a way for a company to hide their dubious practices. It's when shit is closed source like what microsoft normally does that it takes a lot of effort to tell if they're standing on the backs of the hardworking goliath that is open source developers.
So what would happen if, (creating a trivially ridiculous case for the sake of argument) I created a "hello world" application, GPL'd it, handed the project over to another maintainer, and that maintainer rewrote it to play movies? Would I still get copyleft claims if someone then broke the GPL on that resulting source?
What, exactly, is the thing that is GPL'd? The name of the project? The _spirit_ of the project?
Hunh.. thought I had already read this: http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1476462&cid=30417776 So why do you no longer run the shop? Sounds like you liked it quite a bit.
This already happens to some extent with friends who are part of a multi-level marketing type company (Avon, Mary Kay, etc..) or with school/church fundraisers. The only difference here is that it is digital and therefore much easier to ignore, and much harder to guilt trip someone into purchasing to help out a cause or a friend
I had someone try to get me into that once. I didn't, and he's still struggling, the poor bastard.
Hey, works for me... Microsoft gave me a free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit for hosting a Windows 7 party... I am influencial, I get free software!
Is... that like a key party? Do you swap OSes? I sure hope you got a better one than windows 7, she's a total dog.
How about you leave the patents to things that are actually patentable, and not processes, or ways of doing things?
Ah yes, the vast Canadian Empire. At one time covering up to 6.7% of the land area of the earth. It was a fearsome empire with the children trained from birth to hurl rocks across frozen lakes and ice fish.
You forgot kicking ass at hockey and making love in canoes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_estoppel
Seeing as how it was based on common law it may trace its ancestry back to Britain and might well be relevent in Canada, seeing as it's part of the empire.
Commonwealth. We are not part of any empire save our own.
To get the market share they need AND avoid hardware freeloaders, Skiff will have to offer a hardware + 3 year multi-magazine subscription bundle for at least $10/month, probably $15. They can beat out paper magazines by giving people who'd normally subscribe to only one or two magazines, access to dozens for the same price, creating a higher perceived value.
I can tell you right now, no amount of cost savings is going to get me to buy something built for publishers - this implies to me they don't care about consumers, and they can revoke content or make me view ads when all I really want to do is read stuff by content providers - I'm fine with having full page ads, but I need to be able to skip them - and something designed for publishers is not going to allow that.
Speaking of which, I don't think I've hit a site that's been slashdotted in a long time.. Am I just reading the news too early/late or is this phenomena on the way out?
Agreed, please mod parent up beyond 5 ;)
I went to Bletchley and was supremely impressed with the amount of computing history they had there! Plus I got a really cool mug that changes colour when you put hot liquids in it!
Do you think you should be able to buy a bundled package.. a complete computer from a vendor that was sold to you for $X price.. and return the Monitor or Keyboard, in exchange for a percentage of the price equivalent to the FMV of a monitor? (Even though the 'monitor' wasn't an option, and its price is built into the bundle)
Yes.
But lung cancer isn't caused by smell. It's caused by particulates (smoke) and the repairman is not smoking or breathing smoke.
What do you think your nose is sensing when it's smelling something? Energy waves? Particulates are what give things smells.
Some steps for all those people who are skeptical of either global warming or that pollution is harming our environment.
I'm a big fan of both Thorvalds and Obama, but I don't believe either of them deserves a Nobel Peace Prize... yet.
What do you mean yet? I doubt highly that Linus is going to do something in the future that warrants the prize. Obama maybe, but that's expected so I still don't think he should get it.
They may not be overtly buying politicians, but they're still doing it.
No one get's a soda, they get a coke, even when that 'coke' is a Pepsi. When was the last time anyone asked for a tissue instead of a Kleenex? And when you want something copied, you 'xerox' it. No one I know under the age of 40 searches for anything one the web, they 'google' it.
I use tissues to blow my nose, I search for things on google, I drink pop, and I copy documents at a copier. I'm under 30.
in life we all need to struggle sometimes to make us strong.
This sounds like Microsoft's methodology for user interface.
"It gives em character!!!"
G.W. Bush, for example, was a Yale grad, with roughly the same level of education as the evil intellectial Clinton (either of them). Obama actually has LESS time in the crusty halls of Ivy League academe as G.W. Bush.
Nicely illustrates how much one of those degrees says about your education, doesn't it?
Hey, if they get to call their plan unlimited as in limited, that means I get to call it a plan that I'm going to purchase as in not purchase, right? Look ma! I can speak like a lawyer too!
Just imagine the amount of bashers if the news would had read;
Windows 7 is causing outrage and frustration, with early adopters wishing they'd stuck with previous versions of the Windows. Blank and flickering screens, failure to recognize hard drives, defaulting to the old kernel, and failure to get encryption running are taking their toll, as early adopters turn to the web for answers and log fresh bug reports in Windows forums.
This again comes from the fact that both Windows and Mac OS X releases are properly tested and maintained and tend to be in more professional quality.
But why don't the Linux distros go to same lenghts? It shouldn't be impossible, unless of course, commercial projects are maintained more professionally.
I doubt it's less professional on Linux than it is on Mac or Windows. The real fact of the matter is, Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows all have hiccoughs on the first day of release. How they deal with those hiccoughs are what really matters.
And some of us have customers who have a hard enough time grasping the concept of "strong passwords", let alone key-based authentication... And heaven forbid a client's computer crashes and you have to help them set it up again over the phone...
Should these same people have SSH access to your system then? It's like letting someone into your house who then proceeds to leave the door unlocked and opens the windows with a big neon sign that says "FREE SHIT"
Talk to your fucking doctor before you make any decisions on whether to take a vaccine or not - some anonymous schlomo on Slashdot should never influence your opinion on matters of health - your DOCTOR is that person.
Whoever thinks that cloud computing is for desktops is an idiot. The best thing it's for is research and large or multiple small scale commercial computations. With cloud computing as a desktop you would have to rely on at least three factors: connection, client, and server. With a desktop you only need to rely on one thing: the client - the connection and server is not as important if you can still do your work on the client. I don't know about the rest of you, but my connection is _less_ reliable than my computer and I wouldn't trust my data on someone else's server.
Actually, they will only gather that data if you allow them to.
According to TFA:
The search giant is testing a scheme where mobile phone users simply sign up to My Location on Google Maps, start the program before getting in the car, and then simply set off.
So, you need to sign in, and start the application before they can actually gather any information about traffic jams. I can also see people screwing with their data by getting into a car, being dropped off at a certain point, and then walking the rest of the way.