I just can't find an ISP which provide mail via IMAP. I was asking around, yes I did, all answers basically fall from blank stares to "IMAP ? No, we are just an ISP..." and "SSH ? Why ?".
than one of the most effective way to win a war is:
- to know your enemies and to give your enemies guided/controlled/manipulated/(all you can think about) informations
The Balkan's dog of war and his goons are sitting in a jail in Den Haag. A domestic government is chasing the rest of them. A domestic army is loyal to a new president who has no such genocidal, mad ideas like the prevouis one.. Who, in your opinion, exactly is the enemy in Balkans ? In newspapers read some articles sometimes, on political conditions over there. The war is over in Balkans, three years ago.
Agreed. These guys are not morons -- they know what they are doing. If this had been an unintentional security lapse, the problem would have disappeared very quickly, considering the article says that intelligence authorities were alerted a while back. It leads me to think that perhaps this is not such a big deal as it initially seems, and perhaps these images are purposely being put out there to throw someone off track.
I agree, mainly because of political conditions over there; the war is over in Balkans, the point of NATO involvment was to remove Milosevic's troops out of Kosovo, to stop genocide over Albanians. After military intervention they all got democratically elected presidents who comply with UN standards on minorities etc. The only enemy was crazy Milosevic, noone else. It is very different than the situation in Afganistan right now. In Afganistan there is a war going on, while in Balkans it's all over, the only enemy Milosevic who was giving headache to all of his neighbours and domestic populations as well, is ousted from Kosovo, and he is in Den Haag, sitting in his little cell. There is nothing to hide anymore, the war is over, three years ago. No more enemies, nothing to fear by a domestic army which is loyal to the new president.
Too bad debian doesnt enjoy any kde 3.x release...yet.
I am busy compiling KDE all on my own since the version 2.2.1 on Debian Potato; all installed in/usr/local/kde. Compiled KDE version 3.0 on Debian release 3.0 [Woody]. Today got a source for KDE 3.1, installed also in/usr/local/kde without generating any.deb packages. Works like charm.
I really don't quite understand where Debian got its reputation for having such a difficult installer.
Heh, I have seen people on IRC #linux bitching about 'dselect' because according to them it's a command line program therefore it's outdated and they can't click on it to start dselect; next, the main problem for them they found it's a real difficult program since they have no idea how to navigate a list in dselect, they believe it's for geeks only, for 'apt-get' and 'dpkg --options' they conclude it's only for old UNIX freaks since the commands require plenty of command line options, and noone came up with the idea to press '?' in dselect or read 'man dselect'. Actually they bitch about lack of visible menu where they point their mouse. Probably '?' in dselect is beyond their intelectual capabilities. Most of those who bitch about 'dselect' are newcomers from windows who expect similar level of nursing.
I never tried fvwm or fvwm2, I was a kde user since kde v1.11 and used to compile kde on my own, for some packages it took two days (yes, two bloody days) to compile on my P133 and 64MB memory. However, last week I definitely gave up kde for xfce. I am going to install some light wm for a friend these days, on an identical machine. I'll seriously consider fvwm.
Yes, and its hard to believe people like to play more than seven games total.
True. After so many downloaded games people usually stick to three or four, maybe five favourite games, and the rest are quickly forgoten or hardly ever used.
- Download the updates automatically and notify me when they are ready to be installed.
- Notify me before downloading any updates and notify me again before installing them on my computer.
- Turn off automatic updating. I want to update my computer manually.
But does the system allow you to explicity select URLs (mirrors on your choice) for download, because let's say 'dig' shows irregular DNS entry of the main site so you suspect someone is overtaking the site's dns to pose as as an official site and provide trojans instead of the official patches, so you want to use another site (a mirror URL ) where 'dig' shows no irregularities compared to a previous archived digged output of the site, to download patches/updates/upgrades ?
With apt, you have to type "apt-get update" and "apt-get {,dist-}upgrade", or click a button in a GUI, or add it to your crontab, or whatever, before it will do anything. Point is, you have to take an action, affirmatively state "Yes, download stuff" before it will do anything.
Can't windows users explicitly chose URL for download like in apt's/etc/apt/sources.list ? If they can, and I believe they can, the URL's DNS can be checked out by 'dig' against dns overtaking. In that case I see no reason for so much fuss, their explicit trust to the win system is the only problem, it's all user's fault.
P.S. I may be wrong since I don't know if they can explicitly specify download URL's.
Without a creator deity (let's call him God), you can't explain eternal life. Oops, I forgot, you probably don't believe in that either.
Except maybe for something abstract, our vision of the creator deity won't help find facts based on chemistry and physics which explain the original issue. The deity's power is only philosophy based on imagination, ie. a temporary replacement for unexplained.
I did it within 60 minutes man...
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Several days ago I compiled 0.9.4 here on 1.2GHz Athlon and 256MB memory in exactly one hour,
with quite few configure options. I folowed all instruction from their web site and compiled flawlessly. When all was done the browser didn't work.
Yeah, i don't give a flying duck about oxygen, lung cancer and emhysema in children, teens and adults. Who gives a shit about conventional junk mail, anyway ? Vote against internet-spam and be silent about paper junk in our mail boxes. Be a modern man. A smart man.
Less than $400? New and powerful machines?
I can imagine that you could be spending around $400 on components, but you must certainly be pirating the software. How could you buy components, a copy of Windows ME, and the smallest Office package and still come in under $400? There is now way, you have to be a software pirate.
I believe him. That's what I did. He could install some out-of-the-box usable Linux distribution like Corel [Corel Office included on a CD], Mandrake, or whatever other Linux distro on a CD, configure it quickly for average use for his aunt, nephew, sister etc, and voila! I, for instance, just copied an already configured installation [StarOffice in it] from my old HD to my new machine [parts, including a blank HD].
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Anyway, whaddya complaining about a 1.2GHz Athlon for? My Linux fileserver/ dogsbody is a K6-2 366 [with 400MB RAM + 80GB drive, which does help a lot]!!
I didn't complain about my Athlon, not at all.
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Ok, I'll try to make it more clear; it's hard to see differences in speed when running fast processors; what I meant is that konqueror's speed is drastically improved since I can notice it on a processor 1.2GHz. Not so long ago I was running kde 2.1.1, downloaded src from internet and compiled on Pentium I 120MHz. Man, that's what I call slow.
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I get 15% faster downloads in Linux than in Windows. I bet that if you ask around, this is common.
I noticed the same thing on Linux, actually I get slightly faster downloads with my new USR 56k external modem than with my old USR internal modem 56k, on the same system. I am not sure but I believe it is up to modem.
Oh, I forgot to say I never use pre-compiled KDE.deb packages. Once I installed pre-compiled KDE 2.0 and it didn't integrate very well. Since than I am compiling KDE and have no any problems with it on Debian. This is Potato.
Yesterday I compiled 2.2.1 against qt-2.3.1, all from src archives following all instructions. Konqueror seems to be faster, Knode appears to be slower. Dunno why Knode takes so much time to connect to a news server.
Lat year I compiled 2.1.1 from src and all was OK.
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Knode 0.61 in the newest KDE 2.2.1 takes too much time to connect to my news server.
Kmail pulls email out of some public POP3 servers just fine, but it takes too much time to connect to POP3 of my ISP.
I was playing with settings for POP3, it didn't help. The same problems I had in KDE 2.2.
In a previous KDE ver 2.1.1 everything was OK.
Still not sure are these things some bugs.
Positive side: Konqueror is noticable faster here on this system, even for Athlon 1.2GHz.
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I just can't find an ISP which provide mail via IMAP. I was asking around, yes I did, all answers basically fall from blank stares to "IMAP ? No, we are just an ISP..." and "SSH ? Why ?".
than one of the most effective way to win a war is: - to know your enemies and to give your enemies guided/controlled/manipulated/(all you can think about) informations
The Balkan's dog of war and his goons are sitting in a jail in Den Haag. A domestic government is chasing the rest of them. A domestic army is loyal to a new president who has no such genocidal, mad ideas like the prevouis one.. Who, in your opinion, exactly is the enemy in Balkans ? In newspapers read some articles sometimes, on political conditions over there. The war is over in Balkans, three years ago.
Agreed. These guys are not morons -- they know what they are doing. If this had been an unintentional security lapse, the problem would have disappeared very quickly, considering the article says that intelligence authorities were alerted a while back. It leads me to think that perhaps this is not such a big deal as it initially seems, and perhaps these images are purposely being put out there to throw someone off track.
I agree, mainly because of political conditions over there; the war is over in Balkans, the point of NATO involvment was to remove Milosevic's troops out of Kosovo, to stop genocide over Albanians. After military intervention they all got democratically elected presidents who comply with UN standards on minorities etc. The only enemy was crazy Milosevic, noone else. It is very different than the situation in Afganistan right now. In Afganistan there is a war going on, while in Balkans it's all over, the only enemy Milosevic who was giving headache to all of his neighbours and domestic populations as well, is ousted from Kosovo, and he is in Den Haag, sitting in his little cell. There is nothing to hide anymore, the war is over, three years ago. No more enemies, nothing to fear by a domestic army which is loyal to the new president.
Maybe what they broadcast are fake operations to confuse adversaries?
Hmmm... I don't think so; the interested party also run radars, and knows his territory as well. It's hard to fool them that way.
Too bad debian doesnt enjoy any kde 3.x release...yet.
/usr/local/kde. Compiled KDE version 3.0 on Debian release 3.0 [Woody]. Today got a source for KDE 3.1, installed also in /usr/local/kde without generating any .deb packages. Works like charm.
I am busy compiling KDE all on my own since the version 2.2.1 on Debian Potato; all installed in
Sylpheed is a good one, but I prefer a patched version Sylpheed-claws The latest version at the moment of this writing is 0.7.4
I still use 'mailx'
LSD comes from Switzerland, not from California.
I really don't quite understand where Debian got its reputation for having such a difficult installer.
Heh, I have seen people on IRC #linux bitching about 'dselect' because according to them it's a command line program therefore it's outdated and they can't click on it to start dselect; next, the main problem for them they found it's a real difficult program since they have no idea how to navigate a list in dselect, they believe it's for geeks only, for 'apt-get' and 'dpkg --options' they conclude it's only for old UNIX freaks since the commands require plenty of command line options, and noone came up with the idea to press '?' in dselect or read 'man dselect'. Actually they bitch about lack of visible menu where they point their mouse. Probably '?' in dselect is beyond their intelectual capabilities. Most of those who bitch about 'dselect' are newcomers from windows who expect similar level of nursing.
I never tried fvwm or fvwm2, I was a kde user since kde v1.11 and used to compile kde on my own, for some packages it took two days (yes, two bloody days) to compile on my P133 and 64MB memory. However, last week I definitely gave up kde for xfce. I am going to install some light wm for a friend these days, on an identical machine. I'll seriously consider fvwm.
Yes, and its hard to believe people like to play more than seven games total.
True. After so many downloaded games people usually stick to three or four, maybe five favourite games, and the rest are quickly forgoten or hardly ever used.
Windows XP gives you three options:
- Download the updates automatically and notify me when they are ready to be installed.
- Notify me before downloading any updates and notify me again before installing them on my computer.
- Turn off automatic updating. I want to update my computer manually.
But does the system allow you to explicity select URLs (mirrors on your choice) for download, because let's say 'dig' shows irregular DNS entry of the main site so you suspect someone is overtaking the site's dns to pose as as an official site and provide trojans instead of the official patches, so you want to use another site (a mirror URL ) where 'dig' shows no irregularities compared to a previous archived digged output of the site, to download patches/updates/upgrades ?
With apt, you have to type "apt-get update" and "apt-get {,dist-}upgrade", or click a button in a GUI, or add it to your crontab, or whatever, before it will do anything. Point is, you have to take an action, affirmatively state "Yes, download stuff" before it will do anything.
/etc/apt/sources.list ? If they can, and I believe they can, the URL's DNS can be checked out by 'dig' against dns overtaking. In that case I see no reason for so much fuss, their explicit trust to the win system is the only problem, it's all user's fault.
P.S. I may be wrong since I don't know if they can explicitly specify download URL's.
Can't windows users explicitly chose URL for download like in apt's
Without a creator deity (let's call him God), you can't explain eternal life. Oops, I forgot, you probably don't believe in that either.
Except maybe for something abstract, our vision of the creator deity won't help find facts based on chemistry and physics which explain the original issue. The deity's power is only philosophy based on imagination, ie. a temporary replacement for unexplained.
Several days ago I compiled 0.9.4 here on 1.2GHz Athlon and 256MB memory in exactly one hour, with quite few configure options. I folowed all instruction from their web site and compiled flawlessly. When all was done the browser didn't work.
Yeah, i don't give a flying duck about oxygen, lung cancer and emhysema in children, teens and adults. Who gives a shit about conventional junk mail, anyway ? Vote against internet-spam and be silent about paper junk in our mail boxes. Be a modern man. A smart man.
Less than $400? New and powerful machines? I can imagine that you could be spending around $400 on components, but you must certainly be pirating the software. How could you buy components, a copy of Windows ME, and the smallest Office package and still come in under $400? There is now way, you have to be a software pirate.
I believe him. That's what I did. He could install some out-of-the-box usable Linux distribution like Corel [Corel Office included on a CD], Mandrake, or whatever other Linux distro on a CD, configure it quickly for average use for his aunt, nephew, sister etc, and voila! I, for instance, just copied an already configured installation [StarOffice in it] from my old HD to my new machine [parts, including a blank HD].
Anyway, whaddya complaining about a 1.2GHz Athlon for? My Linux fileserver/ dogsbody is a K6-2 366 [with 400MB RAM + 80GB drive, which does help a lot]!!
I didn't complain about my Athlon, not at all.
Ok, I'll try to make it more clear; it's hard to see differences in speed when running fast processors; what I meant is that konqueror's speed is drastically improved since I can notice it on a processor 1.2GHz. Not so long ago I was running kde 2.1.1, downloaded src from internet and compiled on Pentium I 120MHz. Man, that's what I call slow.
I get 15% faster downloads in Linux than in Windows. I bet that if you ask around, this is common.
I noticed the same thing on Linux, actually I get slightly faster downloads with my new USR 56k external modem than with my old USR internal modem 56k, on the same system. I am not sure but I believe it is up to modem.
Oh, I forgot to say I never use pre-compiled KDE .deb packages. Once I installed pre-compiled KDE 2.0 and it didn't integrate very well. Since than I am compiling KDE and have no any problems with it on Debian. This is Potato.
Yesterday I compiled 2.2.1 against qt-2.3.1, all from src archives following all instructions. Konqueror seems to be faster, Knode appears to be slower. Dunno why Knode takes so much time to connect to a news server. Lat year I compiled 2.1.1 from src and all was OK.
Knode 0.61 in the newest KDE 2.2.1 takes too much time to connect to my news server. Kmail pulls email out of some public POP3 servers just fine, but it takes too much time to connect to POP3 of my ISP. I was playing with settings for POP3, it didn't help. The same problems I had in KDE 2.2. In a previous KDE ver 2.1.1 everything was OK. Still not sure are these things some bugs. Positive side: Konqueror is noticable faster here on this system, even for Athlon 1.2GHz.
They say it can be frelly run with no fun attached. See low heat dissipation thanks to 0.13 and 0.15 micron processes
I always forward mail for root to my 'normal' account. That way you never have to read mail as root.
I know, that's what I am doing too. I am pro-user and anti-root as much as possible. Probably you wanted to reply to someone else.