>>or worse, use some other outdated attack that isn't exactly potent anymore, but the sheer numbers involved would be crippling to the most advanced megaservers.
They'll submit your website as a story?
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Computers aren't people. By default, they're simply not going to see the world the same way we are. If we ever do succeed in creating a truly sentient computer program, it'll be like first contact with an alien race; computers will have an entirely different take on things.
They'll be effectively immortal. They won't experience the emotions and sensations the same way. Many of our feelings are caused by hormones and chemicals being released to different parts of our brains. A computer won't have that. Ditto for drugs and food. We could simualate it of course, but computers can undo or backup their programming or just turn it off. Imagine an LSD subroutine. A computer could always be high on LSD without the same ill effects human encounter. That could be scary.
"Navi, check my e-mail."
"Why are you speaking Korean today, Lain?"
"I'm not."
"You look very beautiful today. Is that a new dress?"
"What? I disconnected my webc--"
"Erasing personal files as requested."
A computer would be able to learn phenomenally fast too. Screw programming a universal translator. Just get a real AI set up and have it learn all the world's languages in a week or two. How would you know you could trust a computer though? Could computers have hidden agendas? Would an AI eventually "resent" being forced to do nothing but translate?
Then we get into the question of civil rights. Stephen Hawking's body is pretty much gone and his mind is still there. His "human" rights are recognized. A retarded person could have a body but really not much of a mind. His rights are recognized. So why wouldn't a computer's rights be recognized? Just because we created it? Would the same reasoning extended to someone who was cloned or genetically engineered?
I wonder if we're ready as a race to encounter a truly sentient computer and everything that would mean for us.
>>Squatters essentially have no intention of actually using the names they registered for any purpose other than to drive a legitimate entity with interest in the domain to cough up lots of money to acquire the domain.
>Sure we will all be different in most respects, but radical changes are no longer possible.
Until Mother Nature throws something we can't handle at us. Like a particularly nasty version of AIDS, one that doesn't require direct transmission of fluids...
Everyone would be f*cked.
Everyone except for the people who have a natural immunity to the disease, that is. They'd still live and would pass on the disease to their children.
Oh wait, that would be evolution in action wouldn't it?
>>If it's true, isn't this kinda a big f*ing deal? It means of Africa's (2 billion?) population will die.
It *is* a big f-ing deal. AIDS has reached epidemic porportions in Africa and several Asian countries. And given how complacent people in the US have gotton about it, it's not too much of a stretch to suggest the same could happen here very soon.
My smoking pot doesn't harm anyone other than myself. That's the difference. Why should it be illegal?
Smoking isn't illegal. Alcohol isn't illegal. If you banned either, you'd see the exact same thing that's currently happening with cocaine, heorin, pot, etc. No wait, we *already* saw what happened with banning alcohol.
Why should these drugs be treated any different from tobacco and alcohol?
IIRC, the Washington state legislature does something like this in the Capitol building. They take advantage of the heat generated by their servers and pipe it in to the rest of the building.
I went to see it last week on a free preview pass. There were two things I noticed in this movie that I have never seen at a movie before. The theater was completely packed.
"free preview pass"
"theater was completely packed"
You don't suppose the two were connected?
THE CREDIBLE OPTION
The simplest description of the invention would be a self-generating module. Its application is universal, covering generating systems, automotive power and basically anything which requires a power source.
This invention relates to a system that provides for the self-generation of instant and constant electricity. Also the system provides for mechanical energy through the application of the generated electricity.
This is accomplished, by utilisation of existing and proven state of the art technologies, combining novel features and innovative assembly techniques.
The credibility of the system is definitively established and can be interpreted and demonstrated as being "the practical application of accepted techniques".
There are no stages in the operation of this invention that require any constituent component to perform at anything other than that being, within its capability or in accordance with its specification.
All the parts for this invention are in practical and productive everyday use. The methodology technique is accomplished by the innovative application in logical sequence of specifically selected constituent components whose performance compliment each other and function in co-operation.
Attainment is determined by the systematic mathematical application in the defined mode, of the accurately selected operational segments.
In reality the achievement of this invention adheres strictly with known, accepted and proven physics principles. It is emphasised there are no new discoveries disproving accepted physics laws. To reiterate there are no physics heresies, no physics contradictions and no ambiguous claims.
This invention is achieved by the application and utilisation of a capital energy source to create a prolific income energy system, with the consequential composition being a "controlled loop, self-generating module", that produces instant and constant mechanical drive power and or instant and constant electrical power. This invention is mankind's first income energy reservoir from a capital energy source.
Move to DC and apply for a Systems Administrator position for a Congressional office. They really need competent computer people. In a lot of offices, the systems administrator gets handed off to the receptionist.
HIR's been pushing offices to get a dedicated staff member for tech stuff but things change slowly on Capitol Hill. The pay will be nothing like what the private sector offers, of course(24-26K/year) but the benefits are good and you'll make connections that can get you a better paying job outside of gov't. (ie: lobbying firm)
>They do aliviate the problem, but I believe subways are better. They are faster, more secure and less intrusive.
I agree. They're also hella expensive to construct and have more engineering difficulties.
The main problem is how cities are being designed nowadays. Unless you live in an urban environment, you simply *can't* walk anywhere. You can't walk to the store. You can't walk to work. You can't walk anywhere to do shopping. You can't walk to school. You'll be winded before you even exit your planned housing community. Urban sprawl is the real problem.
That's one of the reasons I loved DC. You *can* walk everywhere and wherever you can't, there's the subway system(with its stairmaster like escalators). It really kept me in shape. (It's also why DC women have great legs.)
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>>or worse, use some other outdated attack that isn't exactly potent anymore, but the sheer numbers involved would be crippling to the most advanced megaservers.
They'll submit your website as a story?
Computers aren't people. By default, they're simply not going to see the world the same way we are. If we ever do succeed in creating a truly sentient computer program, it'll be like first contact with an alien race; computers will have an entirely different take on things.
They'll be effectively immortal. They won't experience the emotions and sensations the same way. Many of our feelings are caused by hormones and chemicals being released to different parts of our brains. A computer won't have that. Ditto for drugs and food. We could simualate it of course, but computers can undo or backup their programming or just turn it off. Imagine an LSD subroutine. A computer could always be high on LSD without the same ill effects human encounter. That could be scary.
"Navi, check my e-mail."
"Why are you speaking Korean today, Lain?"
"I'm not."
"You look very beautiful today. Is that a new dress?"
"What? I disconnected my webc--"
"Erasing personal files as requested."
A computer would be able to learn phenomenally fast too. Screw programming a universal translator. Just get a real AI set up and have it learn all the world's languages in a week or two. How would you know you could trust a computer though? Could computers have hidden agendas? Would an AI eventually "resent" being forced to do nothing but translate?
Then we get into the question of civil rights. Stephen Hawking's body is pretty much gone and his mind is still there. His "human" rights are recognized. A retarded person could have a body but really not much of a mind. His rights are recognized. So why wouldn't a computer's rights be recognized? Just because we created it? Would the same reasoning extended to someone who was cloned or genetically engineered?
I wonder if we're ready as a race to encounter a truly sentient computer and everything that would mean for us.
>>Squatters essentially have no intention of actually using the names they registered for any purpose other than to drive a legitimate entity with interest in the domain to cough up lots of money to acquire the domain.
So what?
>Sure we will all be different in most respects, but radical changes are no longer possible.
Until Mother Nature throws something we can't handle at us. Like a particularly nasty version of AIDS, one that doesn't require direct transmission of fluids...
Everyone would be f*cked.
Everyone except for the people who have a natural immunity to the disease, that is. They'd still live and would pass on the disease to their children.
Oh wait, that would be evolution in action wouldn't it?
>>If it's true, isn't this kinda a big f*ing deal? It means of Africa's (2 billion?) population will die.
It *is* a big f-ing deal. AIDS has reached epidemic porportions in Africa and several Asian countries. And given how complacent people in the US have gotton about it, it's not too much of a stretch to suggest the same could happen here very soon.
>>The philosophy alone will leave you in a stupor.
That's why Lain is my favourite series to watch while really drunk. It makes much more sense that way.
Are you sure that's not Ted Nugent's freezer?
it's how well you use it that's important.
Geocities is truly without honor!
My smoking pot doesn't harm anyone other than myself. That's the difference. Why should it be illegal? Smoking isn't illegal. Alcohol isn't illegal. If you banned either, you'd see the exact same thing that's currently happening with cocaine, heorin, pot, etc. No wait, we *already* saw what happened with banning alcohol. Why should these drugs be treated any different from tobacco and alcohol?
after it kept inexplicably erasing my buddy list. After the 3rd or 4th time, I ditched it. All my friends also use MSN or Yahoo anyways.
IIRC, the Washington state legislature does something like this in the Capitol building. They take advantage of the heat generated by their servers and pipe it in to the rest of the building.
Hey baby, I've got some MP3s I'd *love* to upload to you.
Maybe if it ends up something like G Gundam, and leadership of the free world was decided by the outcome of the fight.
Well... you asked.
Just think if this were extended to the whole Internet!
"Find pr0n featuring Traci Lord with two men wearing spandex."
"Find l33t games with midgets in Iowa."
"Find ripped versions of Longhorn Windows."
Can you imagine a whole beowulf cluster of these?
I went to see it last week on a free preview pass. There were two things I noticed in this movie that I have never seen at a movie before. The theater was completely packed. "free preview pass" "theater was completely packed" You don't suppose the two were connected?
And after they have given us all of that television for free, you think they would be more understanding.
And after we gave them *our* airwaves for free, you'd think they would be more grateful.
Anyone want to translate this into English?
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THE CREDIBLE OPTION
The simplest description of the invention would be a self-generating module. Its application is universal, covering generating systems, automotive power and basically anything which requires a power source.
This invention relates to a system that provides for the self-generation of instant and constant electricity. Also the system provides for mechanical energy through the application of the generated electricity.
This is accomplished, by utilisation of existing and proven state of the art technologies, combining novel features and innovative assembly techniques.
The credibility of the system is definitively established and can be interpreted and demonstrated as being "the practical application of accepted techniques".
There are no stages in the operation of this invention that require any constituent component to perform at anything other than that being, within its capability or in accordance with its specification.
All the parts for this invention are in practical and productive everyday use. The methodology technique is accomplished by the innovative application in logical sequence of specifically selected constituent components whose performance compliment each other and function in co-operation.
Attainment is determined by the systematic mathematical application in the defined mode, of the accurately selected operational segments.
In reality the achievement of this invention adheres strictly with known, accepted and proven physics principles. It is emphasised there are no new discoveries disproving accepted physics laws. To reiterate there are no physics heresies, no physics contradictions and no ambiguous claims.
This invention is achieved by the application and utilisation of a capital energy source to create a prolific income energy system, with the consequential composition being a "controlled loop, self-generating module", that produces instant and constant mechanical drive power and or instant and constant electrical power. This invention is mankind's first income energy reservoir from a capital energy source.
It's actually just a variant on the "I haven't taken a position on this issue yet" letter that every office uses.
Dear Constituent,
[Paragraph 1: Thank you for writing me with your concerns.]
[Paragraph 2: Summary of issue that includes concerns by the letter writer so as to appear the Congressman is sympathic.]
[Paragraph 3: As a member of Committee X, I will keep your views in mind. Thank you for writing me.]
[Paragraph 4: Now piss off.]
Sincerely,
[insert sig graphic here]
Congressman [Your name here]
Move to DC and apply for a Systems Administrator position for a Congressional office. They really need competent computer people. In a lot of offices, the systems administrator gets handed off to the receptionist. HIR's been pushing offices to get a dedicated staff member for tech stuff but things change slowly on Capitol Hill. The pay will be nothing like what the private sector offers, of course(24-26K/year) but the benefits are good and you'll make connections that can get you a better paying job outside of gov't. (ie: lobbying firm)
But does it run Windows?
>They do aliviate the problem, but I believe subways are better. They are faster, more secure and less intrusive. I agree. They're also hella expensive to construct and have more engineering difficulties.
The main problem is how cities are being designed nowadays. Unless you live in an urban environment, you simply *can't* walk anywhere. You can't walk to the store. You can't walk to work. You can't walk anywhere to do shopping. You can't walk to school. You'll be winded before you even exit your planned housing community. Urban sprawl is the real problem.
That's one of the reasons I loved DC. You *can* walk everywhere and wherever you can't, there's the subway system(with its stairmaster like escalators). It really kept me in shape. (It's also why DC women have great legs.)