That's nothing, I'm on my second PDA. The first one(Compaq Ipaq) I drop tested from about 4 feet onto office carpet... lost a line or two of LCD screen. Drop tested again a week later, lost half the LCD. Simple problem (broken ribbon cable to the lcd) but nearly impossible to fix. My Second PDA (Dell Axim X5) has been drop tested many times... still works great. Durability is VERY important, and very underestimated by many manufacturers.
Indeed key space is finite. That being said, go find me a single collision (two strings that result in the same MD5) and I'll conceed that your point is mildly valid.
First, create a front-wheel drive vehicle capable of steering. Second, mount an old style motorless push mower (the kind that are tubes of blades with wheels on each side). Safer, Cheaper, Quieter, More efficient, less complicated. Could you ask for more?
Whoever modded parent as troll should be slapped. It's a VERY legitimate point. What's to stop people from mis-using the stops for illegal activity such as Denial of Service, Hacking, etc?
If this is truely P2P, are there measures in place to help prevent eavesdropping? Do parts of the voice data route different ways, so one node would have a hard time picking up enough of the voice data to be useful? Is the voice data encrypted?
Is it not allowed to make money off p2p ?
It's perfectly fine to make money off of p2p, no one said anything to the contrary.
They have a business plan, in about 10 days they will release a new version where you can call from Skype to a regular phone at competitive prizes. You need to buy a headset from one of their partners.
That's a nice service to offer, and could be implemented without breaking the spirit of free-software, but it worries me that they might push advertisement for this service so hard on the free version that it will be not worth using.
Why so many critical posts, there is not any spyware in Skype, at least not yet. I think it's great that there is a native Linux version, and not all programs for Linux have to be GPL. We need popular programs for the Linux desktop, and this is one of them.
On one hand I agree, commercial software for Linux should be accepted and welcomed. It helps promote the operating system and increases linux's overall value to corporate and home customers alike. In this particular case, I worry, simply because the company in question has a bad history of pushing spyware/malware/adware in the past.
The programmers have said that one version of Skype will remain free for ever, but some more advanced features will cost money.
I like this business model with the exception of the fears I've previously mentioned. I have no intentions of using software that are adware/malware/spyware supported, and I have no intentions, but that's just me. I do have a problem with companies calling this free, they should call it ad-supported, because it is not free, you can only have it if you give something in return... (advertisement/cpu cycles/etc).
Be happy, something you submitted showed up on slashdot... that is, unless the reason you submitted it has nothing to do with wanting it on slashdot... that must mean that you only submitted it to get your name on slashdot. I'm no doctor, but I'm going to have to suggest you get a life.
If the parent poster is accurate (which I have no idea about), then why is this on slashdot? Just because it's for linux doesn't make it good.
Sounds like this product is only beer-free.
The most information I've found is that the software is made by the makers of KaZaa, who is notorious for trying to make money off of P2P. Does Skype have a business plan? Is there spyware/adware/malware? Anyone know?
It's not important to me. If I were to buy the latest/greatest gaming platform from a company, I'd want to use it's features. I mean, by the time that the Xbox2 comes out, Xbox's will be dirt cheap from ebay and other sources, if you really want them, It would be cheaper to buy them seperately than for Microsoft to tack on the extra development costs of making it backward compatible. I'd rather have a slightly cheaper cost on the Xbox2 and not have backward compatability. What do the rest of you think?
Can I get away with charging outrageous prices for mildly clever badly printed material? If so, I'll go grab the iron on transfer paper... I think some geeky company does that already though...
Yes, perhaps some more smoothed out language would work beetter. How about "If this page appears broken, please click here" In this link you could explain that Internet Explorer does not conform to the Standards set forth by the World Wide Web Consordum (of which MS is a member). If you used the correct tone, you could easily win visitors over, especially considering the general consensus by the public that Microsoft is an Illegal monopoly that should be stopped. (I don't just mean the tech community, ask around, even your less clued friends share this belief).
And you're nothing more than a troll without a clue. You have never seen anything I've written and thus are not qualified in any way to make any kind of assumption as to what kind of coder I am. In your case, perhaps suicide is the answer.
Alright, It seems you're all fixated on the sizing issue in IE that as people have pointed out is easily remedied by correctly stating the doctype. I'm not at all talking about these little issues that aren't 100% bugs, because they can be worked around and such. What I'm getting at is more of the real design issues where you have to give up on a design element or spend many hours creating a work around to get it to display in accordance with standards on IE, when it worked just fine on every other browser across the board. Simple example is the fieldset/legend bug. When you create a fieldset and apply a legend (special kind of title... think of the option groups on forms where the title is put across the top of the box) IE colors the background color outside of the lines above the title. That's just one example, there are literrally hundreds of these kinds of issues that you have to deal with when making a commercial website. Yes, that's right, you do have to deal with them when making a commercial website, contrary to the words that have been pushed into my mouth, I never said that you shouldn't deal with these issues on commercial sites, I said simply that I don't bother with it on "MY OWN WEBSITES" anymore.
Second, firefox does not go unpatched of critical flaws for the amount of time that IE does. Furthermore, there are no outstanding critical flaws in mozilla Firefox 0.8 to my knowledge, and I haven't applied one patch since I originally installed it. Let's take a look at IE on the other hand reveals 24 unpatched security issues, many of which were critical, at last update. This is unacceptable, and is a considerably large source of adware/spyware/malware/viruses. Which is a considerably large source for Spam, Lost Company revenue due to computer outages (from badly coded malware/spyware and from viruses), as well as a considerable amount of cost in time for the IT infrastructure to fix.
These are the reasons that while IE is obviously the most used browser right now, it is in no way guaranteed to stay that way. You people do realize that netscape was once king, right? Furthermore, I myself have referred firefox 0.8 to at least 50-75 end users for personal use, in addition to participating in the decision to move the company over to mozilla. I have yet to have a single complaint or person tell me when asked that they chose not to keep it. Every single person has decided to keep it, and most have thoroughly thanked me for the sound recommendation, and have let me know that they are VERY happy with their new browser, and that they will be recommending it to all their friends/family. I'm sorry, but if I get that good of a result, there are most likely others out there that are getting similar if not greater results. That's a lot of people. Regardless, it's firefox seems from my perspective, at least, to be spreading like a virus. It's a great piece of software, that is very well written. I for one will be glad when Internet Explorer is either fixed or loses it's market share, because I assure you that one of the above scenarios is coming very soon.
--Jamon
I said pick any web developer, which you've proven that you are not. I didn't say everyone could ignore IE, I only said that with my OWN websites I've given up on trying.
Secondly, IE's market share is questionable. I personally doubt 90%. Perhaps someone can link to an independant research group's browser market share report or something to clear it up. Regardless, unless IE is improved greatly, it's market share WILL decline. I've heard numerous stories of people switching due to adware, spyware, and viruses, both personal and corporate. This leads me to believe the market is changing.
Regardless, I meant pick a professional web developer, not just an off-the-street hack. If you've done any SERIOUS development you'd agree that it's a pain in the ass to work with IE.
I'm not just referring to strict standards compliance, I'm not bickering over small fries here, IE's CSS support is EXTREMELY broken, as i'm sure you'll learn from the many posts in this thread.
sure you can. It's like this. "We've detected you're not using a standards-compliant browser. While some features of this website will be available, we suggest you upgrade to one of the following browsers: . While your company may not have the balls to do it, I certainly hope more companies will have the balls to do it in the future. It's the only way we'll ever get rid of the god forsaken piece of shit microsoft likes to call "internet explorer." (Don't misread, I'm not flaming you, I completely understand YOUR position, if you don't make your webpages work in broken browsers, you'll get canned. It's the mentality of your superiors that I'm questioning.)
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What I wouldn't do for some mod points. That's just funny. You'd think he was kidding, but no, it works.
I often see the same issues you've described (I use Firefox).
503 Service Unavailable
The service is not available. Please try again later.
Anyone else notice?
That's nothing, I'm on my second PDA. The first one(Compaq Ipaq) I drop tested from about 4 feet onto office carpet... lost a line or two of LCD screen. Drop tested again a week later, lost half the LCD. Simple problem (broken ribbon cable to the lcd) but nearly impossible to fix. My Second PDA (Dell Axim X5) has been drop tested many times... still works great. Durability is VERY important, and very underestimated by many manufacturers.
Indeed key space is finite. That being said, go find me a single collision (two strings that result in the same MD5) and I'll conceed that your point is mildly valid.
First, create a front-wheel drive vehicle capable of steering. Second, mount an old style motorless push mower (the kind that are tubes of blades with wheels on each side). Safer, Cheaper, Quieter, More efficient, less complicated. Could you ask for more?
Whoever modded parent as troll should be slapped.
It's a VERY legitimate point. What's to stop people from mis-using the stops for illegal activity such as Denial of Service, Hacking, etc?
Yeah, I scored a 500 also. Is that good or bad?
Woops! You're right. What I had meant to say was, "who is notorious for trying to make money off of P2P by packaging spyware/adware/malware.
my bad...
the most expensive iPod accessory ever!
If this is truely P2P, are there measures in place to help prevent eavesdropping? Do parts of the voice data route different ways, so one node would have a hard time picking up enough of the voice data to be useful? Is the voice data encrypted?
It sounds like her text-to-speech software is failing half the time. Upgrade her to a better text-to-speech processor.
Let me know if that helps!
Is it not allowed to make money off p2p ?
It's perfectly fine to make money off of p2p, no one said anything to the contrary.
They have a business plan, in about 10 days they will release a new version where you can call from Skype to a regular phone at competitive prizes. You need to buy a headset from one of their partners. That's a nice service to offer, and could be implemented without breaking the spirit of free-software, but it worries me that they might push advertisement for this service so hard on the free version that it will be not worth using.
Why so many critical posts, there is not any spyware in Skype, at least not yet. I think it's great that there is a native Linux version, and not all programs for Linux have to be GPL. We need popular programs for the Linux desktop, and this is one of them.
On one hand I agree, commercial software for Linux should be accepted and welcomed. It helps promote the operating system and increases linux's overall value to corporate and home customers alike. In this particular case, I worry, simply because the company in question has a bad history of pushing spyware/malware/adware in the past.
The programmers have said that one version of Skype will remain free for ever, but some more advanced features will cost money.
I like this business model with the exception of the fears I've previously mentioned. I have no intentions of using software that are adware/malware/spyware supported, and I have no intentions, but that's just me. I do have a problem with companies calling this free, they should call it ad-supported, because it is not free, you can only have it if you give something in return... (advertisement/cpu cycles/etc).
Jamon
Be happy, something you submitted showed up on slashdot... that is, unless the reason you submitted it has nothing to do with wanting it on slashdot... that must mean that you only submitted it to get your name on slashdot. I'm no doctor, but I'm going to have to suggest you get a life.
If the parent poster is accurate (which I have no idea about), then why is this on slashdot? Just because it's for linux doesn't make it good.
Sounds like this product is only beer-free.
The most information I've found is that the software is made by the makers of KaZaa, who is notorious for trying to make money off of P2P. Does Skype have a business plan? Is there spyware/adware/malware? Anyone know?
It's not important to me. If I were to buy the latest/greatest gaming platform from a company, I'd want to use it's features. I mean, by the time that the Xbox2 comes out, Xbox's will be dirt cheap from ebay and other sources, if you really want them, It would be cheaper to buy them seperately than for Microsoft to tack on the extra development costs of making it backward compatible. I'd rather have a slightly cheaper cost on the Xbox2 and not have backward compatability. What do the rest of you think?
Can I get away with charging outrageous prices for mildly clever badly printed material? If so, I'll go grab the iron on transfer paper... I think some geeky company does that already though...
or Blanket, or Prince Michael, or Prince Michael 2
Excellent Points. Now remind me, who did you vote for in the last presidential election? :P
Yes, perhaps some more smoothed out language would work beetter. How about "If this page appears broken, please click here" In this link you could explain that Internet Explorer does not conform to the Standards set forth by the World Wide Web Consordum (of which MS is a member). If you used the correct tone, you could easily win visitors over, especially considering the general consensus by the public that Microsoft is an Illegal monopoly that should be stopped. (I don't just mean the tech community, ask around, even your less clued friends share this belief).
And you're nothing more than a troll without a clue. You have never seen anything I've written and thus are not qualified in any way to make any kind of assumption as to what kind of coder I am. In your case, perhaps suicide is the answer.
Alright, It seems you're all fixated on the sizing issue in IE that as people have pointed out is easily remedied by correctly stating the doctype. I'm not at all talking about these little issues that aren't 100% bugs, because they can be worked around and such. What I'm getting at is more of the real design issues where you have to give up on a design element or spend many hours creating a work around to get it to display in accordance with standards on IE, when it worked just fine on every other browser across the board. Simple example is the fieldset/legend bug. When you create a fieldset and apply a legend (special kind of title... think of the option groups on forms where the title is put across the top of the box) IE colors the background color outside of the lines above the title. That's just one example, there are literrally hundreds of these kinds of issues that you have to deal with when making a commercial website. Yes, that's right, you do have to deal with them when making a commercial website, contrary to the words that have been pushed into my mouth, I never said that you shouldn't deal with these issues on commercial sites, I said simply that I don't bother with it on "MY OWN WEBSITES" anymore.
Second, firefox does not go unpatched of critical flaws for the amount of time that IE does. Furthermore, there are no outstanding critical flaws in mozilla Firefox 0.8 to my knowledge, and I haven't applied one patch since I originally installed it. Let's take a look at IE on the other hand reveals 24 unpatched security issues, many of which were critical, at last update. This is unacceptable, and is a considerably large source of adware/spyware/malware/viruses. Which is a considerably large source for Spam, Lost Company revenue due to computer outages (from badly coded malware/spyware and from viruses), as well as a considerable amount of cost in time for the IT infrastructure to fix.
These are the reasons that while IE is obviously the most used browser right now, it is in no way guaranteed to stay that way. You people do realize that netscape was once king, right? Furthermore, I myself have referred firefox 0.8 to at least 50-75 end users for personal use, in addition to participating in the decision to move the company over to mozilla. I have yet to have a single complaint or person tell me when asked that they chose not to keep it. Every single person has decided to keep it, and most have thoroughly thanked me for the sound recommendation, and have let me know that they are VERY happy with their new browser, and that they will be recommending it to all their friends/family. I'm sorry, but if I get that good of a result, there are most likely others out there that are getting similar if not greater results. That's a lot of people. Regardless, it's firefox seems from my perspective, at least, to be spreading like a virus. It's a great piece of software, that is very well written. I for one will be glad when Internet Explorer is either fixed or loses it's market share, because I assure you that one of the above scenarios is coming very soon.
--Jamon
I said pick any web developer, which you've proven that you are not. I didn't say everyone could ignore IE, I only said that with my OWN websites I've given up on trying.
Secondly, IE's market share is questionable. I personally doubt 90%. Perhaps someone can link to an independant research group's browser market share report or something to clear it up. Regardless, unless IE is improved greatly, it's market share WILL decline. I've heard numerous stories of people switching due to adware, spyware, and viruses, both personal and corporate. This leads me to believe the market is changing.
Regardless, I meant pick a professional web developer, not just an off-the-street hack. If you've done any SERIOUS development you'd agree that it's a pain in the ass to work with IE.
I'm not just referring to strict standards compliance, I'm not bickering over small fries here, IE's CSS support is EXTREMELY broken, as i'm sure you'll learn from the many posts in this thread.
sure you can. It's like this. "We've detected you're not using a standards-compliant browser. While some features of this website will be available, we suggest you upgrade to one of the following browsers: . While your company may not have the balls to do it, I certainly hope more companies will have the balls to do it in the future. It's the only way we'll ever get rid of the god forsaken piece of shit microsoft likes to call "internet explorer." (Don't misread, I'm not flaming you, I completely understand YOUR position, if you don't make your webpages work in broken browsers, you'll get canned. It's the mentality of your superiors that I'm questioning.)