Your ignorant of business. Why should they spend the money to bring you broadband (cable/dsl isnt cheap) if your not willing to shell out the development money? I run a pc shop and have been apart of 2 wireless ISP's (and working on my own now). WiMAX will be one of the BEST ways to bring that broadband to you just as wiFi is now (for the rural people). Companies are about making a buck. You want broadband? Put your money where your mouth is and DO IT YOURSELF. Its not hard at all just costly, just call up your local telco and ask for a T1(1.5mbit, $750+/mo) or DS3(45mbit 7k/mo. Blamo you have broadband. If your in a place where you can get the sub $500/mo T1's you almost certianly have broadband. Odd how that works, cheap internet pipes = broadband in the area! Want a company like me to bring you a cheap net pipe? Bring me 30 contract signed pre-paid for 6 month customers and ill bring cheap net to the moon (but they must live there first).
Crackers`n`Soup
"The FCC should NOT be in the position of selling spectrum to the highest bidder.It should be handing spectrum to WiFi networks where it will be used alot more efficiently and help serve the most people."
WiFi has all the spectrum it will likely get (ISM and UNII bands). The FCC did just relese spectrum at 3650 for wireless internet use. It currently has some satillite and goverment ground operators.
Crackers
Ive had my isp be blacklisted with warning. Im sorry I dont hop on down the office at 3 am and take are of John Q Public that is hit with the latest worm proxy.
It is the equivalent of putting a government mandated sensor in your body that phones home every time it detects illegal chemicals in your body
Goverment Invasion at its best. You put it perfictly. You do realize if laws like this pass's then it is a VERY short slope tell they do put those in our bodies. I have (my own) religious belief's and do not follow any single main stream religion, but I do belive that all religions have points of truth. The mark of the Beast and such could very well be foresight of such govermental intrusion's. True it could be any number of possibilities, Just throwing out the quak-thought-of-the-moment.
Someone else said it better: The price of freedom is eternal vigilance
I think that applies very well. It is a shame where humanity is headed. Ayn Rand wrote about 50 years ago. Why doesnt anyone else see it?
My firewall make decisions about what packets to allow in. It doesnt think. It does as I say. It would be far closer (yet far from) thinking if it watched my traffic nad decided "this looks like a virus, I will red flag and notify"
These doll's are the first steps to a AI (imo) We have came a long way from the days of synthetic sounding voice. Next, a irc bot will be combined with a voice synthisizer and have it randomly call people on the phone (assuming I ever have time to finish, guess I could OSSize my project)
There is a Professor in Witchita, KS that is working with quantum neural networks. Since the human brain contains quantum matrial (to me) this seams like the logical method to atemps AI with. To date "true" AI has failed for many reasions, one being that to be Inteligent you can not simply just exist. "I think there fore I am" does not apply without great leaps of faith that you do not only think, but already decided that you exist. Anyone else remember their childhood, about 5-6 when you knew you existed as a person with thought and direction, not just existing.
epiphany: A comprehension or perception of reality by means of a sudden intuitive realization.
My ass they dont crash. There are plenty of placed embeded Windows crash's. The latest: Parking ticket machines around Houston. I had the chance to talk with a tech working on the parking garage machine's. He said they were great before the OS upgrade to Windows.
That is very common. "Big Business" stays that way with exactly those type of deals. You pay for the install and they rent it back to you =) I would work a deal with the cable co that there is a mini headend located someplace that you can place a cable head(you can get them for as little as $2500) and that they NEVER get to sell anything but video services. If i had the cash i would just come out and start up a cable co of my own. Your best bet might be to do just that. You should beable to do a co-op deal, get goverment monies and ect. Hmmm, I am looking for a new job.... Look at a local competitor to Comcast and explain you will pay for what you want. You pay for the network and they give you a discount on the monthly cable bill. You run the ISP side yourself.
You are also assuming that every user is giving a dedicated amount of BW from that pipe. Also it asumes that each user use's that entire amount 100% of the time. Every ISP in the world over sell's its bandwidth 4x to 10x times. Even your oh so holy cable and dsl providers. They over sell it by even MORE, its jsut that they have DS3s' and not just a T1. Remember, this ISNT a all you can eat dedicated line.
That is $5000/me for bandwidth, Now add $2500/mo for the local loop. Unless it is in a co-lo, then it can be cheaper for the bandwidth. That can also allow you to do a wireless backhaul for $7500-25,000 (one time fee, 12 month ROI) and possibly tower rent depending on how far you have to go and what deals you can get (that 5 story apartment building thats in just the right place gets 2-3mb/mo free for placemt of the antenna's)
Depending on exactly the time of ROI your looking will determine what methods are available for this. Coax would allow you to offer other services(CableTV, CCT, Voice, Data). Fiber will too at a higher cost (likely) while allowing for more of above. Wireless will let you do data/voice and possibly video, depending on the amount you want to spend. I would need to know alot more about this exact community to give a better then a guess answer. Wireless is easy if your willing to do it(or pay the right people to do it. Mesh is not very good unless your willing to buy costly hardware, at which point just buying the carrier grade hardware would be a wiser solution.
Is there currently coax installed?? What about other utilities?? is there already conduit in place that can be utilized?? depending on the layout a fiber based backbone with 10/100 or fiber to the home off of it would be a reasionable solution. Also who owns the light poles?? A few people have worked out a resionable method of using them as mini pop's tho most cities make it dificult to access the pole and power.
Take the information you find here and call a few people who know what there doing. Also take advantage of isp-wireless isp-cable and ect mailing list's at www.isp-planet.com Good luck and let/. know how it goes.
They would block *nix and any other OS buy making it illegal for you to put those OS's on the box. How? same way they did with xbox. It took illegal mod's in the begining to run linux. The same steps will be needed on this computer. Think of the xbox as a training ground, the DMCA as there weapon. They will find some way to track the use of the computers and who is no longer using their computer (they own it) in their aproved method(s).
A firm in Hong Kong is seeking the patent to the entire SARS virus.
The "typhoid mary" should have he right to patent SARS. While SARS is thought of as natrual what if it was a production via this persons body??
Maybe the first person to get SARS natrualy produce's it as a(symptom?) of there stage in life, like peoples odor. Are such things patentable?? (well odors, smell's and fragrances are not. As it has been said, Its a discovery treat it as one.)
You have now removed the wiring from trouble shooting issues
BULLS#!T!!!!!! Wire is FAR easier to solve then wireless. Also, the wireles you sugest is what,.11a/b/g???.16g? Any yo-yo with a linksys and a amp could(and would) take it down. Wire you install, crimp, test, it works or it doesnt. A cheap switch(say hub and die) or a VPN switch and a Mikrotik auth server/bw monitor, 1|2 T1's and your done.
Crackers`n`Soup
wISP Network Administrator
Most ISP's get 50+ customers to a T1. I know of a few that can get 100(and NOT have bandwidth issue's). One thing no one has talked aobut yet is the speed being sold. Your obviously not going to sell 1meg access unless your going to sell bits. That is the best solution IMO. Get 3meg(frac DS3 or bonded T1(watch the bonding, there is per packet nad dound robin(per connection)) and sell 1meg line for $15/mo plus $10/gb.
Why? They can use NAT. You probably are... or are you actually going to get a class C subnet for your condo association? I wouldn't bother - it's not worth the time and money
a C is free with a T1. Just fill out the IP justifacation.
When you buy a serive(like water, electricity, ect) you are not allowed to run a extention cord to your neighborhood. If you do A) you pay for it B) you are commiting a crime
As a wISP I set limits in my SA. I am NOT selling you a dedicated internet connection. I sell 256kbit with 3GB/mo of data. 384 @ 4gb, ect.
Any ISP that does not put limits on there use should and will be taken advantage of. Many learned that the hardway(@Home for instance)
If you buy a 24/7 line thats one thing. If you buy a 27/7 @ some speed thats another. If you buy a dedicated connection that is yet antoher. ISP's have to start making it clear to people what it is that they are selling and what you are buying.
How sure are you that there is NOT some form of wireless available there? If it be.11b or some thing else. Where is this place? I run a wISP and i would be happy to see about expanding =-)
www.speedexpress.net
Cracekrs`n`Soup
A HD is a serial device(from head to platter). If you had a drive with 8 heads(4 platters) you could read/write 1byte in the same time it takes to r/w 1 now. I hear drives DO use 2/3/4 heads at the same time.
You could also use a 5th platter and do 2 bit parity.
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Your ignorant of business. Why should they spend the money to bring you broadband (cable/dsl isnt cheap) if your not willing to shell out the development money? I run a pc shop and have been apart of 2 wireless ISP's (and working on my own now). WiMAX will be one of the BEST ways to bring that broadband to you just as wiFi is now (for the rural people). Companies are about making a buck. You want broadband? Put your money where your mouth is and DO IT YOURSELF. Its not hard at all just costly, just call up your local telco and ask for a T1(1.5mbit, $750+/mo) or DS3(45mbit 7k/mo. Blamo you have broadband. If your in a place where you can get the sub $500/mo T1's you almost certianly have broadband. Odd how that works, cheap internet pipes = broadband in the area! Want a company like me to bring you a cheap net pipe? Bring me 30 contract signed pre-paid for 6 month customers and ill bring cheap net to the moon (but they must live there first). Crackers`n`Soup
"The FCC should NOT be in the position of selling spectrum to the highest bidder.It should be handing spectrum to WiFi networks where it will be used alot more efficiently and help serve the most people." WiFi has all the spectrum it will likely get (ISM and UNII bands). The FCC did just relese spectrum at 3650 for wireless internet use. It currently has some satillite and goverment ground operators. Crackers
Ive had my isp be blacklisted with warning. Im sorry I dont hop on down the office at 3 am and take are of John Q Public that is hit with the latest worm proxy.
It is the equivalent of putting a government mandated sensor in your body that phones home every time it detects illegal chemicals in your body
Goverment Invasion at its best. You put it perfictly. You do realize if laws like this pass's then it is a VERY short slope tell they do put those in our bodies. I have (my own) religious belief's and do not follow any single main stream religion, but I do belive that all religions have points of truth. The mark of the Beast and such could very well be foresight of such govermental intrusion's. True it could be any number of possibilities, Just throwing out the quak-thought-of-the-moment.
Someone else said it better: The price of freedom is eternal vigilance
I think that applies very well. It is a shame where humanity is headed. Ayn Rand wrote about 50 years ago. Why doesnt anyone else see it?
I just don't care. -- My wife's Sister
Crackers`n`Soup
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Rule Sets Thinking
My firewall make decisions about what packets to
allow in. It doesnt think. It does as I say. It
would be far closer (yet far from) thinking if it
watched my traffic nad decided "this looks like a
virus, I will red flag and notify"
These doll's are the first steps to a AI (imo)
We have came a long way from the days of synthetic
sounding voice. Next, a irc bot will be combined
with a voice synthisizer and have it randomly call
people on the phone (assuming I ever have time to
finish, guess I could OSSize my project)
There is a Professor in Witchita, KS that is
working with quantum neural networks. Since the
human brain contains quantum matrial (to me) this
seams like the logical method to atemps AI with.
To date "true" AI has failed for many reasions, one being that to be Inteligent you can not simply
just exist. "I think there fore I am" does not
apply without great leaps of faith that you do
not only think, but already decided that you
exist. Anyone else remember their childhood, about
5-6 when you knew you existed as a person with
thought and direction, not just existing.
epiphany: A comprehension or perception of reality
by means of a sudden intuitive realization.
Crackers`n`Soup
Wher oh where shall I go today??
I'd rather see a single headshot from 400 meters with a Glock or Desert Eagle in true CS style. The Soup No spoon my @$$
I have to totaly agree. I have a IBM PS/1 running FreeSCO ;-)
The Soup
No spoon my @$$.
My ass they dont crash. There are plenty of placed embeded Windows crash's. The latest: Parking ticket machines around Houston. I had the chance to talk with a tech working on the parking garage machine's. He said they were great before the OS upgrade to Windows.
Crackers
It was not cheap, It did not work, and it has been left on the side of the road by Nokia.
That is very common. "Big Business" stays that way with exactly those type of deals. You pay for the install and they rent it back to you =)
I would work a deal with the cable co that there is a mini headend located someplace that you can place a cable head(you can get them for as little as $2500) and that they NEVER get to sell anything but video services. If i had the cash i would just come out and start up a cable co of my own. Your best bet might be to do just that. You should beable to do a co-op deal, get goverment monies and ect. Hmmm, I am looking for a new job....
Look at a local competitor to Comcast and explain you will pay for what you want. You pay for the network and they give you a discount on the monthly cable bill. You run the ISP side yourself.
Crackers`n`Soup
wISP Network Administrator
You are also assuming that every user is giving a dedicated amount of BW from that pipe. Also it asumes that each user use's that entire amount 100% of the time. Every ISP in the world over sell's its bandwidth 4x to 10x times. Even your oh so holy cable and dsl providers. They over sell it by even MORE, its jsut that they have DS3s' and not just a T1. Remember, this ISNT a all you can eat dedicated line.
Crackers`n`Soup
wISP Network Administrator
That is $5000/me for bandwidth, Now add $2500/mo for the local loop. Unless it is in a co-lo, then it can be cheaper for the bandwidth. That can also allow you to do a wireless backhaul for $7500-25,000 (one time fee, 12 month ROI) and possibly tower rent depending on how far you have to go and what deals you can get (that 5 story apartment building thats in just the right place gets 2-3mb/mo free for placemt of the antenna's)
Crackers`n`Soup
wISP Network Administrator
Depending on exactly the time of ROI your looking will determine what methods are available for this. Coax would allow you to offer other services(CableTV, CCT, Voice, Data). Fiber will too at a higher cost (likely) while allowing for more of above. Wireless will let you do data/voice and possibly video, depending on the amount you want to spend. I would need to know alot more about this exact community to give a better then a guess answer. Wireless is easy if your willing to do it(or pay the right people to do it. Mesh is not very good unless your willing to buy costly hardware, at which point just buying the carrier grade hardware would be a wiser solution.
/. know how it goes.
Is there currently coax installed?? What about other utilities?? is there already conduit in place that can be utilized?? depending on the layout a fiber based backbone with 10/100 or fiber to the home off of it would be a reasionable solution. Also who owns the light poles?? A few people have worked out a resionable method of using them as mini pop's tho most cities make it dificult to access the pole and power.
Take the information you find here and call a few people who know what there doing. Also take advantage of isp-wireless isp-cable and ect mailing list's at www.isp-planet.com
Good luck and let
Crackers`n`Soup
www.speedexpress.net
wISP Network Administrator
The expressed opinions are that of my employer.
They would block *nix and any other OS buy making it illegal for you to put those OS's on the box. How? same way they did with xbox. It took illegal mod's in the begining to run linux. The same steps will be needed on this computer. Think of the xbox as a training ground, the DMCA as there weapon. They will find some way to track the use of the computers and who is no longer using their computer (they own it) in their aproved method(s).
They are Microsoft, resitance (will be) futile.
Crackers`n`Soup
A firm in Hong Kong is seeking the patent to the entire SARS virus.
The "typhoid mary" should have he right to patent SARS. While SARS is thought of as natrual what if it was a production via this persons body??
Maybe the first person to get SARS natrualy produce's it as a(symptom?) of there stage in life, like peoples odor. Are such things patentable?? (well odors, smell's and fragrances are not. As it has been said, Its a discovery treat it as one.)
Crackers`n`Soup
If only they were reading it, it might do some good. Its a chuckle at least.
Crackers`n`Soup
You have now removed the wiring from trouble shooting issues
.11a/b/g??? .16g? Any yo-yo with a linksys and a amp could(and would) take it down. Wire you install, crimp, test, it works or it doesnt. A cheap switch(say hub and die) or a VPN switch and a Mikrotik auth server/bw monitor, 1|2 T1's and your done.
Crackers`n`Soup
wISP Network Administrator
BULLS#!T!!!!!! Wire is FAR easier to solve then wireless. Also, the wireles you sugest is what,
Most ISP's get 50+ customers to a T1. I know of a few that can get 100(and NOT have bandwidth issue's). One thing no one has talked aobut yet is the speed being sold. Your obviously not going to sell 1meg access unless your going to sell bits. That is the best solution IMO. Get 3meg(frac DS3 or bonded T1(watch the bonding, there is per packet nad dound robin(per connection)) and sell 1meg line for $15/mo plus $10/gb.
Crackers`n`Soup
wISP Network Administrator
Why? They can use NAT. You probably are... or are you actually going to get a class C subnet for your condo association? I wouldn't bother - it's not worth the time and money
a C is free with a T1. Just fill out the IP justifacation.
When you buy a serive(like water, electricity, ect) you are not allowed to run a extention cord to your neighborhood. If you do A) you pay for it B) you are commiting a crime
As a wISP I set limits in my SA. I am NOT selling you a dedicated internet connection. I sell 256kbit with 3GB/mo of data. 384 @ 4gb, ect.
Any ISP that does not put limits on there use should and will be taken advantage of. Many learned that the hardway(@Home for instance)
If you buy a 24/7 line thats one thing. If you buy a 27/7 @ some speed thats another. If you buy a dedicated connection that is yet antoher. ISP's have to start making it clear to people what it is that they are selling and what you are buying.
Crackers
How sure are you that there is NOT some form of wireless available there? If it be .11b or some thing else. Where is this place? I run a wISP and i would be happy to see about expanding =-)
www.speedexpress.net
Cracekrs`n`Soup
A HD is a serial device(from head to platter). If you had a drive with 8 heads(4 platters) you could read/write 1byte in the same time it takes to r/w 1 now. I hear drives DO use 2/3/4 heads at the same time.
You could also use a 5th platter and do 2 bit parity.
Crackers
http://www.ipsj.or.jp/members/Trans/Eng/04/2000/41 05/article006.htmle /dkindred/des/bitsli ce.html
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/Peopl
Surely something along these lines can be adapted to this application.
Crackers`n`Soup
They do very much. I heard Debeers laser ingrave's thier diamonds now.
http://www.russianbrilliants.net/
I wonder if this process will be used to make the diamonds for cpu's?
Crackers`n`Soup
If your gettign 56Kish speeds(say 3.5K/avg) you can do (3.5k * 60sec = 210KB/min * 60 = 12.6MB/hr * 24 = 302.4MB/day * 28 = 8.4672GB/mo)
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