Sound is only produced when the compressed gas chamber is sealed. They also mention producing heat from high-decibel sound, but not in relation to refridgerators.
The problem with those is that they would most likely be intercepted and interpreted that Ghostzilla is running within the window of. Mouse movements are one of the few input functions that most programs don't use for command execution.
Of course they're not as efficient as adults. But when you can pay 5 of them less than 1 adult costs, and they are more efficient combined, then it works pretty well from a business standpoint.
Wow. I don't even know where to begin in response to your post. Just for future note, it would be nice if would use the same login when responding to my reply to your post so I know it's the same person. But that's mostly beside the point...
I didn't quota a "passage" out of context. It's a full chapter. One among many. Hell, read the entire Book of Numbers.
Actually, I have read Numbers, and although some of the more specific commands God gave to the Israelites don't apply verbatim today, like the rest of the Bible, it has some great things to say. And, yes, you did quote a passage out of context. Context is not defined by a certain amount of words or page space, as you seem to believe. I said that you were taking the chapter out of context because you were using it as a stand-alone example of violence and hatred being encouraged under the Judeo-Christian value system. In reality, those commands were, at that time, for the protection of God's chosen people; the New Testament is full of commands to love your neighbors and enemys.
Sure is funny how you thumpers talk about Mosaic law no longer being in force when it comes to things like, say, slaughtering unbelievers or wearking cotton/polyester blends, but you're perfectly willing to cite it against, say, homosexuality.
Like I mentioned above, "slaughtering unbelievers" (although you greatly generalized and misconstrued that concept) was an OT thing. And it wasn't commanded wholesale, only at certain times. But that's too much to go into here...
I'm not sure about the fabric blends, but the homosexuality commandments were not just an OT thing, they were reinforced numerous times in the New Testament as well. But since you know your Bible so well, I shouldn't have to remind you of that...
Also, being the Bible scholar that you seem to make yourself out to be, I won't have to explain role of the New Testament in clarifying or doing away with other OT commandments.
Irrational religious beliefs (and believers) are dangerous.
True, but any kind of irrational beliefs (and their corresponding believers) are dangerous. The guy in the lane next to me who believes he can shave while driving is dangerous. The coder who creates a gaping whole in his sofware who believes its secure, because he didn't test it enough, is dangerous. Trying to make that sort of generalization apply only to religious beliefs is nothing but a cheap shot.
Ummm, my comment replied to the parent of yours, maybe you didn't see that. But if you are the same poster as the one I responded too, maybe I should give you more credit than I did. You are correct when you say the law was fulfilled in the New Testament (and I commend you for having more of a conceptual knowledge of the Bible, rather than just random passages quoted out of context, as is the want of most of the/. crowd), but that doesn't mean that all of the rules God set for the OT-Israelites carry forward to this day. The original intention of those rules was to guide the Israelites into a true heart condition of obedience to God, not just some trite do's and don'ts (which has unfortunately become the focus of some the more legalistic sects of Christianity and, admittedly, even of myself from time to time).
As to the original poster's (if that's indeed yourlself) conveying that Judeo-Christian ethics directly contributed to the deaths of 3,000 people a year ago? If you can't see that yourself, I don't know how to explain it to you.
Since you're so big on encouraging others to read their Bibles, why don't you try reading yours? How about the last half (roughly) in particular, the one sometimes referred to as the "New Testament"? The days of the Law (and some of the rules you referred to) ended with the start of the NT, but I'm sure you already knew that, you just chose to take a passage out of context to goad those who wouldn't catch your error. And that smarmy comment about rules you consider "Christian" leading to the tragedy of 9/11? Brilliant. [/sarcasm]
I was initially inclined to agree with you, but I don't think calling this a troll is fair. Even the use of the term contrarian was a bit vague (contrary to what?...). From what I gathered, the purpose of this rant was not so much a point-by-point dissection and dismantling of the open-source (insert free software, Linux, etc. if you prefer) movement, but semi-stream-of-conciousness jibe at the whole community. I agree that some of his points weren't very clear (or coherent for that matter) and many of the metaphors didn't seem to fit too well, but if you read to the end, he's actually pretty positive toward our kind.
Although I'm not too familiar with his work, keep in mind this is a novelist writing this, and a fairly cynical one at that.
Those who would be proactive against this are already in danger of being labeled "terrorists". Just check out any of the newest legislation referring to cybercrime. Scary.
True. I guess the one truth that overrules all this controversy over school responsibility vs. individual responsibility is that when you combine a lawsuit-happy, victim-mentality populace with an overly-obliging judicial system, anyone can potentially sue anyone else and win. Until there's some meaningful tort reform, everything truly logical goes out the window.
I see your point, and I think it's a valid one, but I believe that there are ways that a student could be accidentally exposed to pornography: say, by a pop-up (or the more deceptive pop-under) window? In those cases, courts might be more willing to side with the parents.
Well, I'm glad that you don't care that anyone who wants to can spy on you, but you're not the norm. In fact there are laws against that.
It's not my problem until I make it mine, or it happens to me.
Well trust me, if it happens to someone else, and you don't care enough (or have enough guts) to stand up against it, it will happen to you down the line. Just keep that in mind while you enjoy your temporary isolationist bubble.
You mean that the FBI investigates people...How dare they do their job...
Good gosh, you think the FBI has the right to investigate anyone, on any whim? Maybe I've exaggerated your point, but this is ridiculous. Ever heard of just cause or reason to suspect? And no one said they're "pre-cogs" or anything like that; they just need to have their suspicion based on real evidence.
No one "normal" stands next to the ATM so the camera doesn't capture your picture...or routinely spends hours searching their PC for "spyware."
Ummmm...every used Ad-Aware before? If you haven't, I'm surprised you found your way to a (usually) intelligent site like Slashdot. Do you know where all the data programs like Cydoor collect goes? If you don't, you should be concerned.
"Normal" people simply don't care, as they know it happens. They only care when it wrongly happens to them...and that's the only time (sic) they should.
Geez, it's never your problem until it happens to you is it? "We're all somebody else to somebody else" seems to apply pretty well here, so I'll leave well enough alone...
of a similar article about BMW's use of Microsoft's Windows CE to run critical (or at least near critical) car systems. Does the fact that BMW's running a more compact M$ OS mean they'll crash less?;)
I've agreed with most of your points so far, but you just stepped way out of line. The "stealing cars vs. stealing IP" argument seems to come up every time something of this nature is mentioned on/., only to get trod in the ground for the umpteenth time. I could go ahead and explain to you again the concept of product deprivation vs. product duplication, but I think it's been said enough EVERY SINGLE DANG WEEK, so I won't waste my time. Kudos to keeping most of your argurments logical, you've been fighting off defenders valiantly, but know when you've gone too far.
Business may be amoral (maybe more often immoral today), but that doesn't mean it doesn't have certain responsiblities to society. What about the swiss banks who stored Nazi money? It made have made smart business sense, but it cost them later IIRC. There are some major economic theories (IANAE) that the best business decisions are governed by what's in the best interest of all parties, not just the party in question. Would you have resisted selling the ingredients for the Nazi gas chambers or would you have said "Hey, I have a good idea what this will be used for, but I'm making a huge profit, so what the heck."
Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. You can run a lot more effectively if the masses are brainwashed and without choices. Hmmm...what does this remind me of? Communism, maybe?
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True. I guess I would think of true troll or flamebait posts as one's that are (mostly) ontopic, but only provide inflammatory comments without any real evidence or openness to discussion.
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This required a little digging (on a site linked to from EFF's Broadcast Flag site), but should've been linked to by the submitter.
Sound is only produced when the compressed gas chamber is sealed. They also mention producing heat from high-decibel sound, but not in relation to refridgerators.
Sound is only produced within the compressed gas chamber, so I doubt it would be noticeable to humans. Animals might be another matter, though.
Or that shuts down their engine when they make/answer a call. This might start some flaming...
The problem with those is that they would most likely be intercepted and interpreted that Ghostzilla is running within the window of. Mouse movements are one of the few input functions that most programs don't use for command execution.
Of course they're not as efficient as adults. But when you can pay 5 of them less than 1 adult costs, and they are more efficient combined, then it works pretty well from a business standpoint.
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Wow. I don't even know where to begin in response to your post. Just for future note, it would be nice if would use the same login when responding to my reply to your post so I know it's the same person. But that's mostly beside the point...
I didn't quota a "passage" out of context. It's a full chapter. One among many. Hell, read the entire Book of Numbers.
Actually, I have read Numbers, and although some of the more specific commands God gave to the Israelites don't apply verbatim today, like the rest of the Bible, it has some great things to say. And, yes, you did quote a passage out of context. Context is not defined by a certain amount of words or page space, as you seem to believe. I said that you were taking the chapter out of context because you were using it as a stand-alone example of violence and hatred being encouraged under the Judeo-Christian value system. In reality, those commands were, at that time, for the protection of God's chosen people; the New Testament is full of commands to love your neighbors and enemys.
Sure is funny how you thumpers talk about Mosaic law no longer being in force when it comes to things like, say, slaughtering unbelievers or wearking cotton/polyester blends, but you're perfectly willing to cite it against, say, homosexuality.
Like I mentioned above, "slaughtering unbelievers" (although you greatly generalized and misconstrued that concept) was an OT thing. And it wasn't commanded wholesale, only at certain times. But that's too much to go into here...
I'm not sure about the fabric blends, but the homosexuality commandments were not just an OT thing, they were reinforced numerous times in the New Testament as well. But since you know your Bible so well, I shouldn't have to remind you of that...
Also, being the Bible scholar that you seem to make yourself out to be, I won't have to explain role of the New Testament in clarifying or doing away with other OT commandments.
Irrational religious beliefs (and believers) are dangerous.
True, but any kind of irrational beliefs (and their corresponding believers) are dangerous. The guy in the lane next to me who believes he can shave while driving is dangerous. The coder who creates a gaping whole in his sofware who believes its secure, because he didn't test it enough, is dangerous. Trying to make that sort of generalization apply only to religious beliefs is nothing but a cheap shot.
Ummm, my comment replied to the parent of yours, maybe you didn't see that. But if you are the same poster as the one I responded too, maybe I should give you more credit than I did. You are correct when you say the law was fulfilled in the New Testament (and I commend you for having more of a conceptual knowledge of the Bible, rather than just random passages quoted out of context, as is the want of most of the /. crowd), but that doesn't mean that all of the rules God set for the OT-Israelites carry forward to this day. The original intention of those rules was to guide the Israelites into a true heart condition of obedience to God, not just some trite do's and don'ts (which has unfortunately become the focus of some the more legalistic sects of Christianity and, admittedly, even of myself from time to time).
As to the original poster's (if that's indeed yourlself) conveying that Judeo-Christian ethics directly contributed to the deaths of 3,000 people a year ago? If you can't see that yourself, I don't know how to explain it to you.
Since you're so big on encouraging others to read their Bibles, why don't you try reading yours? How about the last half (roughly) in particular, the one sometimes referred to as the "New Testament"? The days of the Law (and some of the rules you referred to) ended with the start of the NT, but I'm sure you already knew that, you just chose to take a passage out of context to goad those who wouldn't catch your error. And that smarmy comment about rules you consider "Christian" leading to the tragedy of 9/11? Brilliant. [/sarcasm]
Exactly.
I was initially inclined to agree with you, but I don't think calling this a troll is fair. Even the use of the term contrarian was a bit vague (contrary to what?...). From what I gathered, the purpose of this rant was not so much a point-by-point dissection and dismantling of the open-source (insert free software, Linux, etc. if you prefer) movement, but semi-stream-of-conciousness jibe at the whole community. I agree that some of his points weren't very clear (or coherent for that matter) and many of the metaphors didn't seem to fit too well, but if you read to the end, he's actually pretty positive toward our kind.
Although I'm not too familiar with his work, keep in mind this is a novelist writing this, and a fairly cynical one at that.
Yeah, but RIAA.com is still up. Maybe we can fix this too...
Those who would be proactive against this are already in danger of being labeled "terrorists". Just check out any of the newest legislation referring to cybercrime. Scary.
True. I guess the one truth that overrules all this controversy over school responsibility vs. individual responsibility is that when you combine a lawsuit-happy, victim-mentality populace with an overly-obliging judicial system, anyone can potentially sue anyone else and win. Until there's some meaningful tort reform, everything truly logical goes out the window.
I see your point, and I think it's a valid one, but I believe that there are ways that a student could be accidentally exposed to pornography: say, by a pop-up (or the more deceptive pop-under) window? In those cases, courts might be more willing to side with the parents.
Well, I'm glad that you don't care that anyone who wants to can spy on you, but you're not the norm. In fact there are laws against that.
It's not my problem until I make it mine, or it happens to me.
Well trust me, if it happens to someone else, and you don't care enough (or have enough guts) to stand up against it, it will happen to you down the line. Just keep that in mind while you enjoy your temporary isolationist bubble.
You mean that the FBI investigates people...How dare they do their job...
Good gosh, you think the FBI has the right to investigate anyone, on any whim? Maybe I've exaggerated your point, but this is ridiculous. Ever heard of just cause or reason to suspect? And no one said they're "pre-cogs" or anything like that; they just need to have their suspicion based on real evidence.
No one "normal" stands next to the ATM so the camera doesn't capture your picture...or routinely spends hours searching their PC for "spyware."
Ummmm...every used Ad-Aware before? If you haven't, I'm surprised you found your way to a (usually) intelligent site like Slashdot. Do you know where all the data programs like Cydoor collect goes? If you don't, you should be concerned.
"Normal" people simply don't care, as they know it happens. They only care when it wrongly happens to them...and that's the only time (sic) they should.
Geez, it's never your problem until it happens to you is it? "We're all somebody else to somebody else" seems to apply pretty well here, so I'll leave well enough alone...
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of a similar article about BMW's use of Microsoft's Windows CE to run critical (or at least near critical) car systems. Does the fact that BMW's running a more compact M$ OS mean they'll crash less? ;)
I think I meant "...fighting off detractors..." . Wow...and it's only Tuesday. This is going to be an interesting week... ;)
I've agreed with most of your points so far, but you just stepped way out of line. The "stealing cars vs. stealing IP" argument seems to come up every time something of this nature is mentioned on /., only to get trod in the ground for the umpteenth time. I could go ahead and explain to you again the concept of product deprivation vs. product duplication, but I think it's been said enough EVERY SINGLE DANG WEEK, so I won't waste my time. Kudos to keeping most of your argurments logical, you've been fighting off defenders valiantly, but know when you've gone too far.
Business may be amoral (maybe more often immoral today), but that doesn't mean it doesn't have certain responsiblities to society. What about the swiss banks who stored Nazi money? It made have made smart business sense, but it cost them later IIRC. There are some major economic theories (IANAE) that the best business decisions are governed by what's in the best interest of all parties, not just the party in question. Would you have resisted selling the ingredients for the Nazi gas chambers or would you have said "Hey, I have a good idea what this will be used for, but I'm making a huge profit, so what the heck."
Yeah, that makes a ton of sense. You can run a lot more effectively if the masses are brainwashed and without choices. Hmmm...what does this remind me of? Communism, maybe?
True. I guess I would think of true troll or flamebait posts as one's that are (mostly) ontopic, but only provide inflammatory comments without any real evidence or openness to discussion.