(who got purchase by MS) That is only a rumor. MS worked with Bungie to create the game, but they did not purchase the company. Unless you know something that Bungie doesn't know...
Try searching google for bungie and microsoft and you'll see more then enough proof. And I dont think Microsoft really helped bungie much, if they did it was after the sale and it was help to port it to xbox..
Yea, I can imagine the problem is a bit tougher there, geographically and publicly.
First off, probably not that many places to chose from to store this stuff in the UK, which also leads to the problem of no matter where you chose to store it, its going to be in someones backyard.
You probably know a lot more about this then I do, but when they store the radioactive material, isn't it stored in a fairly secure container? If so, even if it were submerged in water, it wouldn't leak unless the container leaked somehow.. In any case, the salt mines you are talking about sound like a much better place to store this then the Yucca mountains, but politics often come first over common sense..
I was a user of napster for a bit, I was on dial up at the time, so it was a slow process, but I did download songs..
When napster shut down, the next thing I went to was audiogalaxy.. I had also got a cable modem at about that time, and I probably downloaded 20 gigs of mp3's that first month that I had it.
One of the things that I thought made audiogalaxy the best way of searching for music was that when you searched on an artist lets say, it would show you what other artists people had searched for that had also searched for the artist that I was searching for. This opened me up to a lot of music that I had otherwise not known about.
They also had all the music categorized by the genre, and I could sit there and browse thru these for days on end.
Its too bad that its gone, but luckily I think I have all the music I would want now, and I can grab the few songs I might need here and there from kazaa-lite..
I'd be going to another country BECAUSE it's "completely legal" there. Thus the legality of it, you see? If I skipped this step, it would be illegal. Do the step, not illegal. Capiche?
I dont think this person is paying 200k so he can use this in some third-world nation. This person lives either in europe or north america, where it is illegal. You would be wasting your time by going to another country, the page mentions at the bottom, "Everything done on this project is for the sole purpose of writing interoperable software under Sect. 1201 (f) Reverse Engineering exception of the DMCA." This is not some project where your going to need to fly across the world to complete, it looks like to me that they are doing this with the understanding that the person/people that will port it will do it using black-box reverse engineering techniques, ala compaq and the ibm bios. My guess is you really dont have any idea what your talking about...
The basic goal of the project is to find a simple and completely legal way to run Linux on the Microsoft Xbox.
For some reason, "Easy enough. Develop this mother outside the US. Preferably in a non-WIPO country.", does not seem to be "completely legal". Why bother going to a non-wipo country if what you are doing is completely legal?
You've done (or appear to have done) the whole thing legally. So what if it's illegal for people to read the information you've provided! That's not a contest condition.
That first quote pretty much sums it up as well. They are looking for a simple and completely legal way of using linux on the XBOX. Obscuring the fact on where the work was actually done does not just make all the legal issues go away.
Im all for this im just wondering what the completely legal part of their vision really means..
The basic goal of the project is to find a simple and completely legal way to run Linux on the Microsoft Xbox.
The whole project is divided into two sub-projects, the first one consisting of four tasks.
Project A: Porting Linux to a modified Xbox:
Task 1: Replacement BIOS (software/hardware)
Task 2: Kernel and XFree drivers
Task 3: Kernel logic: FATX and miscellaneous
Task 4: XBE bootloader
Project B: Xbox hack without any hardware modification
A total of US$ 100,000 will be awarded for the completion of each of the two projects.
Well, I hope someone can do this, it would be very interesting to see, but I don't get how they can do all of this 'legally' as the anonymous donor wishes. To complete project b, are going to need to find out how the Digital Rights Management (tm) system works on the Xbox, and that would violate the DMCA as far as I know, but im no lawyer. I hope they clear that up soon, unless they expect this person to deal with microsoft lawyers to license DRM somehow, but i doubt they can if they have to disclose the reason why they want to license the technology.
Best of luck to all those capable of doing this though.
Yea, I really don't see much of a point in this either. From what I know, the current way of doing things works, and there are some pretty amazing animated movies out. Im actually a bit confused as to what they want to happen. Do they want me to go to an animated movie, and offscreen someplace there are real actors moving around, and the computer is rendering this in real-time, showing me it up on the screen. That is stupid, and I hope im just confused.
Using a render farm has a lot of plus's, look at some of the LOTR movies that show them animating orcs with real humans, id love to see them (machina or whatever) do this with 1/10th the quality with a bunch of geforce cards using cg. As far as I understand it, the animators and modelers will have pretty nice machines. I was able to play on an SGI cluster, it used IRIX, and they used lightwave to model / animate. Once they animated this though, they would just send the render job to the rest of the machines and they would crunch away at the numbers for a while. Im assuming that when it is rendering, it is using cpu power and not the video card, but i may be wrong. I really don't think if you took a bunch of geforce chips and did something fancy with them, you could even come close to the quality in the movies mentioned in the above post..
I think what they are worried about is some group of terrorists buying an old russian ICBM or something to that nature (would be pocket change for al 'Queda in my opinion) and sending a rocket towards us.
I hope we wont have to use it but i'll be very glad we have it if we need to.
But I agree, I think that the whole ICBM threat is not as bad as it was in past times. Its just another excuse to ask for another few billion dollars for the defense budget..
I mean Moby of all people, he can't sell a record that people *dont* like now can he. This leaves only one other excuse for why his album didn't sell as much as the last one did, it has to be those pirates that we can just lay blame on and go on our ways.
Wonder if he has ever thought about the fact that the reason why he didn't sell as many cds as he thought he was going to is because the album is not that good?
If you dont want your data to be cache'd, then put it behind a password protected site.
You put something on the internet, and its going to be cached by a lot of places, some places may dump that cache weekly (proxy servers) or they may stay up for a while (google).
Im not saying anything about the amount of work put into anything. The original poster said that, by having a 4.5gig game, you would need 7 cds to actually hold that information on the installation discs.
I stated that, the 4.5gig listing for the requirement was for when the game was installed. Most games pack all the data files for the game into.cab files or some other type of compression. This usually would make those files smaller. So, you wouldn't need 7 cds to hold 4500mb, because you could compress 4500mb into lets say.. 3000mb. You could then store that 3000mb of info on 5 cds and the files would be decompressed during installation.
Well, the game probably is packed in cab files on the disk, and they get unpacked during install, to uncompressed data files, movie files, etc. This probably saves a bit of space..
This may be a dumb question, I am not up and up on my star trek physics yet, but wouldn't going from impulse speed to full warp be worse, inertia-wise, then banking and using lateral thrust?
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Actually, I thought it was the other way around. They had found iceland, but no one wanted to go because they thought it was a big floating block of ice. They found greenland next, and named it such to entice those who would be willing to go..
Hmm.. im pretty sure what the above poster was stating is that this 10gigabit network is not for a single machine, you could hook up 10 1gigabit machines to this and use it as a single pipe.
Anyone using gigabit networks is going to be using a switch, there's really not much of a point in using hubs anymore. The idea that a 10gigabit network is stupid because pci can't keep up, that really doens't matter though, as the above poster stated, its not making one single machine communicate faster, its making a network of machines being able to communicate with each other without running into situations where all the bandwidth is saturated.
I read someplace that they had changed something on the Osprey and it was going to go back into testing again. I hope it does well this time, I can see its usefulness..
I saw a show on TV about these credit cards. The only company that would admit that they have credit cards "with essentially no limit". Just as long as they were able to pay the monthly statement, they could really buy anything they wanted with this card.
They also gave another example of what you get when yer rich and you get this special visa. One cardholder wanted to get a ticket to some sort of show that was pretty much sold out when the tickets went on sale, I think it was some sort of political dinner or something like that, but visa was able to get him in there like he was invited in the first place.
But yes.. the people from visa did say that you really don't have a limit to those cards..
Bull-crap. Lawyers don't put in clauses for the fun of it. You can be sure that SONICblue's legal team pored over this and every word fully represents the intent of the company. If they never, ever meant to do this, they wouldn't bother reserving the right...
The terms of service at www.adelphia.net (cable modems) state that I can break these rules by using excessive bandwidth. They classify excessive as more then 3.5gigs a month. Ive transferred up and down more then 30 gigs in a month with no problems. I believe they use a lot of that for people that are actually causing the company some sort of problems, they can use it to back them in court if need be. We will have to see what happens when someone starts messing around with it, but I would be pretty suprised if they were hardcore with it.
When I went and saw Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in the theater, about halfway thru the audio cut out and the radio came on. Shit happens I guess, but the same stuff can happen in a conventional theater.
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I got this from a post above, I think it is the exact wording of it:
"One should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything."
Which I think is a bit more solid then, "The simplest answer is most often the correct one".
Hmm.. a quick google search found the answer
XBox / Bungie interview
Try searching google for bungie and microsoft and you'll see more then enough proof. And I dont think Microsoft really helped bungie much, if they did it was after the sale and it was help to port it to xbox..
Yea, I can imagine the problem is a bit tougher there, geographically and publicly.
First off, probably not that many places to chose from to store this stuff in the UK, which also leads to the problem of no matter where you chose to store it, its going to be in someones backyard.
Ah well, thanks for the reply, have a good one!
You probably know a lot more about this then I do, but when they store the radioactive material, isn't it stored in a fairly secure container? If so, even if it were submerged in water, it wouldn't leak unless the container leaked somehow.. In any case, the salt mines you are talking about sound like a much better place to store this then the Yucca mountains, but politics often come first over common sense..
I was a user of napster for a bit, I was on dial up at the time, so it was a slow process, but I did download songs..
When napster shut down, the next thing I went to was audiogalaxy.. I had also got a cable modem at about that time, and I probably downloaded 20 gigs of mp3's that first month that I had it.
One of the things that I thought made audiogalaxy the best way of searching for music was that when you searched on an artist lets say, it would show you what other artists people had searched for that had also searched for the artist that I was searching for. This opened me up to a lot of music that I had otherwise not known about.
They also had all the music categorized by the genre, and I could sit there and browse thru these for days on end.
Its too bad that its gone, but luckily I think I have all the music I would want now, and I can grab the few songs I might need here and there from kazaa-lite..
Second sentence from the article.. And who is muddying the conversation?
Yup that was it, I had a pretty good laugh when I first saw it.. =P
Thanks for the link
I found this gif that someone made, it was showing off the logo's for the following os's, Windows NT, Windows CE, and Windows ME..
Together it made Windows CE ME NT, or Windows CEMENT.
I dont think this person is paying 200k so he can use this in some third-world nation. This person lives either in europe or north america, where it is illegal. You would be wasting your time by going to another country, the page mentions at the bottom, "Everything done on this project is for the sole purpose of writing interoperable software under Sect. 1201 (f) Reverse Engineering exception of the DMCA." This is not some project where your going to need to fly across the world to complete, it looks like to me that they are doing this with the understanding that the person/people that will port it will do it using black-box reverse engineering techniques, ala compaq and the ibm bios. My guess is you really dont have any idea what your talking about...
For some reason, "Easy enough. Develop this mother outside the US. Preferably in a non-WIPO country.", does not seem to be "completely legal". Why bother going to a non-wipo country if what you are doing is completely legal?
You've done (or appear to have done) the whole thing legally. So what if it's illegal for people to read the information you've provided! That's not a contest condition.
That first quote pretty much sums it up as well. They are looking for a simple and completely legal way of using linux on the XBOX. Obscuring the fact on where the work was actually done does not just make all the legal issues go away.
Im all for this im just wondering what the completely legal part of their vision really means..
The whole project is divided into two sub-projects, the first one consisting of four tasks.
Project A: Porting Linux to a modified Xbox:
Task 1: Replacement BIOS (software/hardware)
Task 2: Kernel and XFree drivers
Task 3: Kernel logic: FATX and miscellaneous
Task 4: XBE bootloader
Project B: Xbox hack without any hardware modification
A total of US$ 100,000 will be awarded for the completion of each of the two projects.
Well, I hope someone can do this, it would be very interesting to see, but I don't get how they can do all of this 'legally' as the anonymous donor wishes. To complete project b, are going to need to find out how the Digital Rights Management (tm) system works on the Xbox, and that would violate the DMCA as far as I know, but im no lawyer. I hope they clear that up soon, unless they expect this person to deal with microsoft lawyers to license DRM somehow, but i doubt they can if they have to disclose the reason why they want to license the technology.
Best of luck to all those capable of doing this though.
Yea, I really don't see much of a point in this either. From what I know, the current way of doing things works, and there are some pretty amazing animated movies out. Im actually a bit confused as to what they want to happen. Do they want me to go to an animated movie, and offscreen someplace there are real actors moving around, and the computer is rendering this in real-time, showing me it up on the screen. That is stupid, and I hope im just confused.
Using a render farm has a lot of plus's, look at some of the LOTR movies that show them animating orcs with real humans, id love to see them (machina or whatever) do this with 1/10th the quality with a bunch of geforce cards using cg. As far as I understand it, the animators and modelers will have pretty nice machines. I was able to play on an SGI cluster, it used IRIX, and they used lightwave to model / animate. Once they animated this though, they would just send the render job to the rest of the machines and they would crunch away at the numbers for a while. Im assuming that when it is rendering, it is using cpu power and not the video card, but i may be wrong. I really don't think if you took a bunch of geforce chips and did something fancy with them, you could even come close to the quality in the movies mentioned in the above post..
I think what they are worried about is some group of terrorists buying an old russian ICBM or something to that nature (would be pocket change for al 'Queda in my opinion) and sending a rocket towards us.
I hope we wont have to use it but i'll be very glad we have it if we need to.
But I agree, I think that the whole ICBM threat is not as bad as it was in past times. Its just another excuse to ask for another few billion dollars for the defense budget..
I mean Moby of all people, he can't sell a record that people *dont* like now can he. This leaves only one other excuse for why his album didn't sell as much as the last one did, it has to be those pirates that we can just lay blame on and go on our ways.
Wonder if he has ever thought about the fact that the reason why he didn't sell as many cds as he thought he was going to is because the album is not that good?
If you dont want your data to be cache'd, then put it behind a password protected site.
You put something on the internet, and its going to be cached by a lot of places, some places may dump that cache weekly (proxy servers) or they may stay up for a while (google).
Im not saying anything about the amount of work put into anything. The original poster said that, by having a 4.5gig game, you would need 7 cds to actually hold that information on the installation discs.
.cab files or some other type of compression. This usually would make those files smaller. So, you wouldn't need 7 cds to hold 4500mb, because you could compress 4500mb into lets say.. 3000mb. You could then store that 3000mb of info on 5 cds and the files would be decompressed during installation.
I stated that, the 4.5gig listing for the requirement was for when the game was installed. Most games pack all the data files for the game into
Unreal Tournament does as well..
Tony Hawk 3 supported usb modems, they had about 5 or 6 listed in the manual but they all were pretty much basic usb modems.
Well, the game probably is packed in cab files on the disk, and they get unpacked during install, to uncompressed data files, movie files, etc. This probably saves a bit of space..
So, id say you could probably fit in on 4 or 5.
This may be a dumb question, I am not up and up on my star trek physics yet, but wouldn't going from impulse speed to full warp be worse, inertia-wise, then banking and using lateral thrust?
Actually, I thought it was the other way around. They had found iceland, but no one wanted to go because they thought it was a big floating block of ice. They found greenland next, and named it such to entice those who would be willing to go..
Hmm.. im pretty sure what the above poster was stating is that this 10gigabit network is not for a single machine, you could hook up 10 1gigabit machines to this and use it as a single pipe.
Anyone using gigabit networks is going to be using a switch, there's really not much of a point in using hubs anymore. The idea that a 10gigabit network is stupid because pci can't keep up, that really doens't matter though, as the above poster stated, its not making one single machine communicate faster, its making a network of machines being able to communicate with each other without running into situations where all the bandwidth is saturated.
I read someplace that they had changed something on the Osprey and it was going to go back into testing again. I hope it does well this time, I can see its usefulness..
I saw a show on TV about these credit cards. The only company that would admit that they have credit cards "with essentially no limit". Just as long as they were able to pay the monthly statement, they could really buy anything they wanted with this card.
They also gave another example of what you get when yer rich and you get this special visa. One cardholder wanted to get a ticket to some sort of show that was pretty much sold out when the tickets went on sale, I think it was some sort of political dinner or something like that, but visa was able to get him in there like he was invited in the first place.
But yes.. the people from visa did say that you really don't have a limit to those cards..
The terms of service at www.adelphia.net (cable modems) state that I can break these rules by using excessive bandwidth. They classify excessive as more then 3.5gigs a month. Ive transferred up and down more then 30 gigs in a month with no problems. I believe they use a lot of that for people that are actually causing the company some sort of problems, they can use it to back them in court if need be. We will have to see what happens when someone starts messing around with it, but I would be pretty suprised if they were hardcore with it.
When I went and saw Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in the theater, about halfway thru the audio cut out and the radio came on. Shit happens I guess, but the same stuff can happen in a conventional theater.