No, because DiVX died.. Palladium isn't easy to twist into any law, if it was it would of easily been already mandated; especially considering "9/11". The problem is that people give it credibility saying IT COULD be implemented. Thats the problem, ignore it; it'll die on it's own merits. People won't buy DRM enabled machines, simply because people don't like their content controlled or limited, it's been proven over and over and over. Stop giving it credibility by saying.. IT COULD, MAYBE, WHAT IF.
People like you scare me. Why talk as if palladium is already going to take place. If you recognize it's existance then you give it more credibility. If you can actually think of something like that then you even give it more credibility. Ignore it and just like any other bad technology it will die. DiVX (circuit city style) etc etc etc.
ATI Radeon 7200; how's your driver support? You don't have to answer, you're not getting the most out of that card. Thats the way all ATI cards are; the specs say they can do something they actually can but because of piss poor drivers; they can't really do them. As for Nvidia it's hard to release OPEN specs when you don't own some of the stuff on your card; for whatever reason, be it that you've found someone elses design better and cheaper to implement without having to do it yourself or you just want the option of making things modular etc etc. Unless you hire someone to pump all the performance out of your ATI card your best bet is nvidia, which provides excellent driver support and hardware for many platforms when was the last time you heard of a video chipset manufacturer making drivers for freebsd and the like?
It's like buying a porsche that is capable of 180mph but you can only get maybe 100mph if you're lucky. Why not just buy the bmw that goes at 150mph and actually go 150mph?
"It's not that C++ is necessarily more difficult (for me or a good number of the coders here), it's that coding an app in C++ means I have to actually pay attention to memory management, pointers, etc."
This is what programmers due, pay attention to memory management, pointers, etc. If they want an app yesterday they'll have to learn that it doesn't work that way. Any well written app takes time and VB is like the McDonalds of programming languages. It's good, quick, fast, everything taste the same and it's not good for you.
I'm done grieving; I'm living right now. A LOT OF FOLKS DIDN'T make it out yes. I'm very very well aware of that fact. Trust me, very well aware. A lot of families HAVE moved on, it's a process, you MOVE on.
A year ago today I was lucky; this is no hissyfit it's people like you who give 9.11 a bad name. YOU WONT LET IT HAVE IT'S REVERANCE for crying out loud.
Until you've had a jet engine in front of your fucking face and a person with a chunk of their head missing laying infront of you; you know nothing about what happened on that day. The images you've seen are nothing compared to the actual event.
So with all respect sir, maybe you should reread my original post. Everyone has the right to grieve, the people who lost loved ones have grieved. They didn't wait till the anniversary of the day to grieve. It's an ongoing process and the wounds stay fresh with the media constantly ripping them open. As for "Dude, if you're sick of hearing it, turn off CNN". How about "Dude I fucking live in NYC, I'd have to lock myself in a little fucking room; unlike where ever you happen to be from, it's not that easy to get away from it".
Your post is just fucking digusting and I fear this is how most people think about the event; "STFU and let people grieve for the folks who weren't so lucky". You haven't been doing that all year? If you have then you'd agree this extra coverage isn't necessary, a memorial, a moment of silence is needed; reverance. Pay your respects and continue to live. MORE lives were lost in Vietnam and Americans spit on the soldiers when they came back. Where was your grieving then? Where was the grieving for Pearl Harbor? Where was the grieving for the Gulf War deceased? Where is the grieving for the fallen soldiers during this operation? WHY AREN'T YOU GRIEVING FOR THEM AS MUCH AS 9.11??
I happened to be in one of the towers on 9/11. I'm sick of hearing it; I think anyone in the towers at the time are sick of hearing about this. We'd like to move on, I'm watching CNN now and I'm just disgusted, this whole thing disgusts me. Nothing but leeches, money grubbers and people trying to take away my rights dwell on 9.11
I don't want a moment of silence; I'd like silence on the subject for a while; completely.
WTF is it that we'll bitch about the **AA putting down the little guy, but we're pooh-poohing someone who's trying to stand up to Big Oil and the Automakers?
Yes, we can approach the total processing power of the brain using a "bag of chips" approach to building a supercomputer, but we are nowhere near getting that processing power in a truly unified system.
I agree with mostly everythiing you said except the above and that we don't have processors that can scale to trillions of calculations a second. There are many supercomputers out there that do trillions of calculations per second.. Infact if I'm not mistaken IBM will have a 100 trillion calculation supercomputer out in a couple years. There are systems out there that already do 50 teraflops. So it does exist today and will only get faster in the future. As for the increase of speed having any affect on AI; it hasn't, not in the sense of creating a human-like AI as you've said above. This is why I mentioned quantum computing (parallelism); personally I think it will allow for a major step in the AI field; hell, quantum theory itself if applied to most anything will make a big impact but specifically on computers and our interaction with them in everyday life simply because of the power of quantum computing. A 100 teraflop quantum computer (actually I shouldn't apply the teraflop measurement to it; but jsut for example) is more likely to act human using a nueral network because of it's ability to learn more and be quick with responses. Most researchers know this and thats why I don't think they concentrate on imitating the brain with the current hardware that we have.. now if they could get easy access to a quantum supercomputer it'd be different; at least I think. However we'll have to wait and see.
Umm this question has been answered already considering there are some chips that are doing trillions of calculations a second and still we haven't been able to simulate the human brain. The problem is not really processing power.. It's HOW things are processed combined with latency, bandwidth, database speed and things like that coming all together to provide what is "like" a brain. Of course in a earlier question I asked about quantum computing because of it's parallelism; but processing power this question has been answered already and that answer is no and it hasn't had any ramifications on AI.. It's not the processor it's all the other things involved that need to respond as fast as it.
Neural networks usually degrade after sometime of "learning". Basically the computer can learn so much before it starts to "retard" because of physical hardware limitations. Do you think that quantum computing will help this; do you even think quantum computing is feasible for AI in general?
You are talking apples and oranges. My gov't will not distribute cd's with a fix for Microsoft software. If it's in public interest my gov't will tell Microsoft it must distribute cd's with a fix for Microsoft software. Thats the way it will work, everything else you seapk of isn't relevant to this argument at all.
Re:All of this kvetching about bad sysadmins, and
on
Happy Birthday Code Red
·
· Score: 1, Flamebait
No, not with my tax dollars. Microsoft fucks up, microsoft pays; not me or the "public". If it's about public interest then hold microsoft responsible and let them make the fix or make them hire a 3rd party to do so. However using my tax dollars to fix an inept companies fuckup is not whats gonna happen.
I never said NY doesn't have earthquakes on occassion.. Hell even NYC has earthquakes; you could move anywhere on earth and always be subject to an earthquake. I'm claiming the original poster using something as california in comparison is extremely laughable considering all of the data on major faults.
The national center for earthquake Engineering stuff you'll have to search google for compare all the above with the original posters california stuff.
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/bgm/tornado/maintor.h tm l
"A tornado is a rare occurrence in central New York and northeast Pennsylvania. Since 1950, there have been 128 tornadoes reported in the Binghamton forecast area. This area is composed of 24 counties in central New York and northeast Pennsylvania.
New York State ranks 30th and Pennsylvania 25th in the total number of tornadoes reported in the United States from 1950 to 1996. See the Storm Prediction Center for the complete list."
"Sorry, it's the reasonable and informed folks who work hard to involve themselves in the decision making process and gain a position of authority and respect in their field who eventually allow a compromise."
Those are the same people who are the pains in the asses. MLK, Ghandi etc etc all were reasonable and informed folks who worked hard to involve themselves in the decision making process and gain a position of authority and respect and they did this by being pains in the ass, by consistently disregarding the other side. By holding protests, by being disobedient, basically doing whatever it took to get their point across.
1. It's convienient, and if these people are loyal to their cause there is always a convienient time to get the point across.
2. Make a scene, thats what you want otherwise people don't notice you. Once they notice you they'll want to know why exactly you are behaving the way you are
3. If you get those same people who are now wondering why your are pissed off to think you are oppressed then they feel slightly oppressed because they can sympathize with you. Thus bringing them a little bit closer to understanding what you are trying to say and understanding your argument, plus the sympathy and you've got a supporter.
It sucks to know that most people would rather sit on their hands than to show any emotion or passion for a cause they feel is worthy nowadays. Being disrespectful is one thing and the pain in the ass you describe above wouldn't be loyal to their cause but I'd still have to disagree with you on your sentiment that these people are not reasonable and informed.
Nothing ever worth fighting for, or worth changing was gained without these type of people. Without people like Richard Stallman and the NYCers there would probably be no public forum of discussion to begin with and if there was there surely wouldn't have been coverage of it like this. Sometimes they can go over the top, sometimes you might disagree; that's ok so long as you understand their position. The other side does the same thing as you could tell from a quote of the Aol/TW representative.
Occasional earthquake in NY.. heh.. thats funny. I mean I'd agree with the snow storms and thunderstorms but ummm they don't call em Nor'Easters for nothing and also tornadoes rarely reach Troy or upstate NY as they barely even reach nyc. If you look at a tornados path it usually comes out the coast hits places like Myrtle beach etc and then slowly starts to swing right out to sea. It's been like that for years even with the odd El Nino weather.
ATI never has drivers worth a crap. Drivers are the most important part of the card and ATI always has shit drivers but great hardware.. I'll stick with Nvidia because I don't need another paperweight.
I'm gonna have to say that their behavior sounds like it was needed. I wish all debates could go without anyone scoffing and the other but it shows some people with the power of change in the room that there are people like this not just there but outside the walls of the debate. It's the ever present pain in the ass that eventually allows compromise..
The above post is typical; "it's the tools". It's gonna be those same tools that make the overall code poor. Designs will be poor, code will be badly written and it's because of the "tools". Any good coder or coder worth their weight in salary wants to make sure that they spend time working with every bit of their code. Backtracing a problem makes you a better coder, it makes you understand problems when you have to do it yourself. This is why I don't recognize VB coders as real coders because they can't fucking understand simple concepts. All I see.NET as is VB, with a likeness of Java claiming to be cross portable etc etc; Just Microsoft taking ideas from other people again and mucking them together. There won't be any different applications coming from this, any different ideas or code being made. Anything different at all EXCEPT that it will eventually and I'll bet my life on it.. Block others from using some website or whatever app it is unless they are using a Microsoft certified platform. Thats Microsoft's goal, not being open, not playing fairly, none of that matters. Why can't the opensource community get this through their head; it's like Microsoft gives you a cookie and you happily sit there and eat it while it goes back to pouring cyanide in your milk.
Miguel is constantly chasing after Microsoft technologies, and I don't know why. Microsoft hasn't had a proven technology that worked well EVER. Unix consistently has.
No.. Gnome is GPL, the stuff Ximian adds to Gnome might be GPL; lets say it all is. Ximian is trademarked and if Redhat is using Ximian Gnome in it's products then there has to be consent from Ximian, then Ximian could decide to allow Redhat to do so or not.
Oh by the way.. the above is what a free market is about.. One company doing what they are good at really well and another one doing something they are good at really well.. Mergers have taken the place of general scientific/public discussion of ideas in places like forums. So you get a little bit more bottom line, cut more people outta a job and a less quality product. Gotta love CEO's and the board.
Slashdot Mirror
Nvidia has already released a driver for freebsd, where exactly have you been?
Wouldn't it be even cooler if they just didn't say anything? DRM isn't a law you know. People need to stop treating it as such.
No, because DiVX died.. Palladium isn't easy to twist into any law, if it was it would of easily been already mandated; especially considering "9/11". The problem is that people give it credibility saying IT COULD be implemented. Thats the problem, ignore it; it'll die on it's own merits. People won't buy DRM enabled machines, simply because people don't like their content controlled or limited, it's been proven over and over and over. Stop giving it credibility by saying.. IT COULD, MAYBE, WHAT IF.
People like you scare me. Why talk as if palladium is already going to take place. If you recognize it's existance then you give it more credibility. If you can actually think of something like that then you even give it more credibility. Ignore it and just like any other bad technology it will die. DiVX (circuit city style) etc etc etc.
ATI Radeon 7200; how's your driver support? You don't have to answer, you're not getting the most out of that card. Thats the way all ATI cards are; the specs say they can do something they actually can but because of piss poor drivers; they can't really do them. As for Nvidia it's hard to release OPEN specs when you don't own some of the stuff on your card; for whatever reason, be it that you've found someone elses design better and cheaper to implement without having to do it yourself or you just want the option of making things modular etc etc. Unless you hire someone to pump all the performance out of your ATI card your best bet is nvidia, which provides excellent driver support and hardware for many platforms when was the last time you heard of a video chipset manufacturer making drivers for freebsd and the like?
It's like buying a porsche that is capable of 180mph but you can only get maybe 100mph if you're lucky. Why not just buy the bmw that goes at 150mph and actually go 150mph?
"It's not that C++ is necessarily more difficult (for me or a good number of the coders here), it's that coding an app in C++ means I have to actually pay attention to memory management, pointers, etc."
This is what programmers due, pay attention to memory management, pointers, etc. If they want an app yesterday they'll have to learn that it doesn't work that way. Any well written app takes time and VB is like the McDonalds of programming languages. It's good, quick, fast, everything taste the same and it's not good for you.
I'm done grieving; I'm living right now. A LOT OF FOLKS DIDN'T make it out yes. I'm very very well aware of that fact. Trust me, very well aware. A lot of families HAVE moved on, it's a process, you MOVE on.
A year ago today I was lucky; this is no hissyfit it's people like you who give 9.11 a bad name. YOU WONT LET IT HAVE IT'S REVERANCE for crying out loud.
Until you've had a jet engine in front of your fucking face and a person with a chunk of their head missing laying infront of you; you know nothing about what happened on that day. The images you've seen are nothing compared to the actual event.
So with all respect sir, maybe you should reread my original post. Everyone has the right to grieve, the people who lost loved ones have grieved. They didn't wait till the anniversary of the day to grieve. It's an ongoing process and the wounds stay fresh with the media constantly ripping them open. As for "Dude, if you're sick of hearing it, turn off CNN". How about "Dude I fucking live in NYC, I'd have to lock myself in a little fucking room; unlike where ever you happen to be from, it's not that easy to get away from it".
Your post is just fucking digusting and I fear this is how most people think about the event; "STFU and let people grieve for the folks who weren't so lucky". You haven't been doing that all year? If you have then you'd agree this extra coverage isn't necessary, a memorial, a moment of silence is needed; reverance. Pay your respects and continue to live. MORE lives were lost in Vietnam and Americans spit on the soldiers when they came back. Where was your grieving then? Where was the grieving for Pearl Harbor? Where was the grieving for the Gulf War deceased? Where is the grieving for the fallen soldiers during this operation? WHY AREN'T YOU GRIEVING FOR THEM AS MUCH AS 9.11??
You simply fucking digust me.
I happened to be in one of the towers on 9/11. I'm sick of hearing it; I think anyone in the towers at the time are sick of hearing about this. We'd like to move on, I'm watching CNN now and I'm just disgusted, this whole thing disgusts me. Nothing but leeches, money grubbers and people trying to take away my rights dwell on 9.11
I don't want a moment of silence; I'd like silence on the subject for a while; completely.
WTF is it that we'll bitch about the **AA putting down the little guy, but we're pooh-poohing someone who's trying to stand up to Big Oil and the Automakers?
This is the new slashdot.
www.enlightenment.org
Yes, we can approach the total processing power of the brain using a "bag of chips" approach to building a supercomputer, but we are nowhere near getting that processing power in a truly unified system.
I agree with mostly everythiing you said except the above and that we don't have processors that can scale to trillions of calculations a second. There are many supercomputers out there that do trillions of calculations per second.. Infact if I'm not mistaken IBM will have a 100 trillion calculation supercomputer out in a couple years. There are systems out there that already do 50 teraflops. So it does exist today and will only get faster in the future. As for the increase of speed having any affect on AI; it hasn't, not in the sense of creating a human-like AI as you've said above. This is why I mentioned quantum computing (parallelism); personally I think it will allow for a major step in the AI field; hell, quantum theory itself if applied to most anything will make a big impact but specifically on computers and our interaction with them in everyday life simply because of the power of quantum computing. A 100 teraflop quantum computer (actually I shouldn't apply the teraflop measurement to it; but jsut for example) is more likely to act human using a nueral network because of it's ability to learn more and be quick with responses. Most researchers know this and thats why I don't think they concentrate on imitating the brain with the current hardware that we have.. now if they could get easy access to a quantum supercomputer it'd be different; at least I think. However we'll have to wait and see.
Umm this question has been answered already considering there are some chips that are doing trillions of calculations a second and still we haven't been able to simulate the human brain. The problem is not really processing power.. It's HOW things are processed combined with latency, bandwidth, database speed and things like that coming all together to provide what is "like" a brain. Of course in a earlier question I asked about quantum computing because of it's parallelism; but processing power this question has been answered already and that answer is no and it hasn't had any ramifications on AI.. It's not the processor it's all the other things involved that need to respond as fast as it.
Neural networks usually degrade after sometime of "learning". Basically the computer can learn so much before it starts to "retard" because of physical hardware limitations. Do you think that quantum computing will help this; do you even think quantum computing is feasible for AI in general?
You are talking apples and oranges. My gov't will not distribute cd's with a fix for Microsoft software. If it's in public interest my gov't will tell Microsoft it must distribute cd's with a fix for Microsoft software. Thats the way it will work, everything else you seapk of isn't relevant to this argument at all.
No, not with my tax dollars. Microsoft fucks up, microsoft pays; not me or the "public". If it's about public interest then hold microsoft responsible and let them make the fix or make them hire a 3rd party to do so. However using my tax dollars to fix an inept companies fuckup is not whats gonna happen.
I never said NY doesn't have earthquakes on occassion.. Hell even NYC has earthquakes; you could move anywhere on earth and always be subject to an earthquake. I'm claiming the original poster using something as california in comparison is extremely laughable considering all of the data on major faults.
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/epic/epic.htmln eic.usgs.gov/neis/states/new_york/new_york _history.htmle w_york/new_york _seismicity.htmln .html
h tm l
9 6t .htm
http://
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/states/n
http://www.ldgo.columbia.edu/lc
The national center for earthquake Engineering stuff you'll have to search google for compare all the above with the original posters california stuff.
http://www.erh.noaa.gov/er/bgm/tornado/maintor.
"A tornado is a rare occurrence in central New York and northeast Pennsylvania. Since 1950, there have been 128 tornadoes reported in the Binghamton forecast area. This area is composed of 24 counties in central New York and northeast Pennsylvania.
New York State ranks 30th and Pennsylvania 25th in the total number of tornadoes reported in the United States from 1950 to 1996. See the Storm Prediction Center for the complete list."
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/archive/tornadoes/st50-
New York is 30 outta the 51 states from 1950-1996
It seems most if not all of you are quite mistaken.
"Sorry, it's the reasonable and informed folks who work hard to involve themselves in the decision making process and gain a position of authority and respect in their field who eventually allow a compromise."
Those are the same people who are the pains in the asses. MLK, Ghandi etc etc all were reasonable and informed folks who worked hard to involve themselves in the decision making process and gain a position of authority and respect and they did this by being pains in the ass, by consistently disregarding the other side. By holding protests, by being disobedient, basically doing whatever it took to get their point across.
1. It's convienient, and if these people are loyal to their cause there is always a convienient time to get the point across.
2. Make a scene, thats what you want otherwise people don't notice you. Once they notice you they'll want to know why exactly you are behaving the way you are
3. If you get those same people who are now wondering why your are pissed off to think you are oppressed then they feel slightly oppressed because they can sympathize with you. Thus bringing them a little bit closer to understanding what you are trying to say and understanding your argument, plus the sympathy and you've got a supporter.
It sucks to know that most people would rather sit on their hands than to show any emotion or passion for a cause they feel is worthy nowadays. Being disrespectful is one thing and the pain in the ass you describe above wouldn't be loyal to their cause but I'd still have to disagree with you on your sentiment that these people are not reasonable and informed.
Nothing ever worth fighting for, or worth changing was gained without these type of people. Without people like Richard Stallman and the NYCers there would probably be no public forum of discussion to begin with and if there was there surely wouldn't have been coverage of it like this. Sometimes they can go over the top, sometimes you might disagree; that's ok so long as you understand their position. The other side does the same thing as you could tell from a quote of the Aol/TW representative.
Occasional earthquake in NY.. heh.. thats funny. I mean I'd agree with the snow storms and thunderstorms but ummm they don't call em Nor'Easters for nothing and also tornadoes rarely reach Troy or upstate NY as they barely even reach nyc. If you look at a tornados path it usually comes out the coast hits places like Myrtle beach etc and then slowly starts to swing right out to sea. It's been like that for years even with the odd El Nino weather.
ATI never has drivers worth a crap. Drivers are the most important part of the card and ATI always has shit drivers but great hardware.. I'll stick with Nvidia because I don't need another paperweight.
I'm gonna have to say that their behavior sounds like it was needed. I wish all debates could go without anyone scoffing and the other but it shows some people with the power of change in the room that there are people like this not just there but outside the walls of the debate. It's the ever present pain in the ass that eventually allows compromise..
The above post is typical; "it's the tools". It's gonna be those same tools that make the overall code poor. Designs will be poor, code will be badly written and it's because of the "tools". Any good coder or coder worth their weight in salary wants to make sure that they spend time working with every bit of their code. Backtracing a problem makes you a better coder, it makes you understand problems when you have to do it yourself. This is why I don't recognize VB coders as real coders because they can't fucking understand simple concepts. All I see .NET as is VB, with a likeness of Java claiming to be cross portable etc etc; Just Microsoft taking ideas from other people again and mucking them together. There won't be any different applications coming from this, any different ideas or code being made. Anything different at all EXCEPT that it will eventually and I'll bet my life on it.. Block others from using some website or whatever app it is unless they are using a Microsoft certified platform. Thats Microsoft's goal, not being open, not playing fairly, none of that matters. Why can't the opensource community get this through their head; it's like Microsoft gives you a cookie and you happily sit there and eat it while it goes back to pouring cyanide in your milk.
Miguel is constantly chasing after Microsoft technologies, and I don't know why. Microsoft hasn't had a proven technology that worked well EVER. Unix consistently has.
No.. Gnome is GPL, the stuff Ximian adds to Gnome might be GPL; lets say it all is. Ximian is trademarked and if Redhat is using Ximian Gnome in it's products then there has to be consent from Ximian, then Ximian could decide to allow Redhat to do so or not.
Or maybe it's the structure of the jet. Yah; that could be it; I don't think it was made outta sheet metal.
Oh by the way.. the above is what a free market is about.. One company doing what they are good at really well and another one doing something they are good at really well.. Mergers have taken the place of general scientific/public discussion of ideas in places like forums. So you get a little bit more bottom line, cut more people outta a job and a less quality product. Gotta love CEO's and the board.