That is fine. However, the issue is with installer code. The software company has no control over whether the user has zsh installed. They must depend on the default shell (that being bash) is present.
I would echo what has already been said, and do not use bash esoterics. Stick to the least common denominator between sh and bash.
I'm not excusing, nor condoning what has been done in these examples.
However, there is such a thing as signature release. It is a great thing if you're never home (of course you take on the risk). Pay by credit card for all mail orders.
My best story is last year I ordered a Viewsonic PF795 (a schweeet 19" monitor!). FedEx Ground (RPS then) was the delivery agent. It was supposed to arrive on a given day, but didn't. I checked the tracking number and it showed delivered (this was before retiring for the evening). I go out the front door the next day, and there is my monitor. I guess the driver marked delivery a little prematurely, or was running late (those deliveries are actually in the evening for my address). No harm done, so I didn't bother yapping to FedEx.
Again, always use a credit card for your mail orders. That is your best protection. If never shows up or happens to be damaged, refuse payment. Let your credit card company and vendor bicker over it. Your exposure is $50.
Not to nit pick you, but you are comparing apples to oranges. Sure GNOME works great under Linux. However, the post you responded to was complaining about it under Solaris. It is a totally different animal with the GNOME addon Sun provides (i.e. it isn't ready for prime time).
If you had bothered reading my post, you would have noticed I mentioned $100 million was likely a 10 year total cost of ownership. Included in that cost of ownership is personnel (i.e. labor).
I did NOT say it would cost $100 million to build this.
I DO say it could cost $100 million to build and operate over a 10 year period.
You can do something like this with VERITAS Volume Manager.
Create 2 plexes, one composed of sub-disk(s) from your RAM disk(s), and one composed of sub-disk(s) from hard disks. Attach these to a volume (i.e. you are now mirrored).
Set the read policy to preferred for the ram-disk plex. The end result is your data is mirrored to non-volatile storage, but your reads are generally satisfied from RAM disk.
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You miss the biggest cost...
storage and availability of data.
We are talking in the 100's of GB, if not TB's. When you use that many spindles, you are going to statistically suffer spindle failure on the rate of 1 every week or two. That rate will increase as your spindle count increases.
You will have to go RAID-5 or mirror. As this will most likely be read intensive, RAID-5 would be an economical way to protect this data while improving read performance.
Availability is going to be another factor here. Think clustering, as it wouldn't do to have MIT's OpenCourseWare offline.
This costs money. Depending on their projected usage you can easily get upwards of $100M in cost. Remember this is a 10yr cost, so think total cost of ownsership (infrastructure, personnel costs, maintenance, etc.).
It depends on your location's climate. There is also Jet-A. The difference is the additives. If I recall correctly, A1 adds prist (which helps to prevent freezing of the fuel).
Jet-A1, which is the fuel used at this time of year *is* a diesel cut of fuel. It is very safe, compared to gasoline.
Diesel cuts are not as volatile as gasoline cuts, and hence tend to burn rather than explode.
You are mistaking current jet fuel to what used to be jet fuel. In the military, JP-8 is currently used for all purposes. It is for all intents and purposes fairly equivalent to Jet-A1 (their are some additive differences). JP-4 used to be the fuel of choice for Army and Air Force aviation. It is a gasoline cut, and is very volatile. It tends to make a good explosion when hit with munitions. The Navy has always used JP-7 (and may be using -8 now) because it is a diesel cut. It is much safer for carrier operations.
If you were to pour JP-4 (or gasoline) on the ground, wait a few seconds, and then ignite, you would be rewarded with an explosion as the vapors burn.
Repeat the same experiment with Jet-A1, JP-7, JP-8, or diesel, and you will get a slower burn (not an explosion).
I won't argue the fact that because Jet-A1 tends to burn, not explode, the effect at the WTC was enhanced (i.e. a gasoline cut of fuel would have exploded but perhaps not caused structural failure of the steel).
I spent 3 1/2 years as a Petroleum Officer in the U.S. Army and have a B.S. in Petroleum Engineering.
I personally am awaiting the day of affordable fuel cells for the home.
Micro-distribution, especially if we are just hooked up to our house, has many positive qualities.
No more expensive transmission line losses (won't be needing superconducting high tension lines)
No single points of failure in the power grid (i.e. the grid could have a hiccup, but are home/industrial power source keeps on generating)
Cogeneration, we hook up to the grid for fault tolerance if our power source goes down, plus we sell our surplus to the grid
We can slow the growth of our massive power plants, as they only need to supply a less than worst case scenario of power to those hooked up to the grid (the odds of all home/industrial sources going down simultaneously is low)
If I could mod you up I would. If I were in this boat my knee jerk reaction would be anger.
However, you have to think about what XP would bring you. If a substantial number of those 200 clients were laptops, I would say (from what I've read, not first hand experience) there might be a case to take the laptops to XP. I haven't read anything that would lead me to believe you need to take your servers to XP from 2000 anytime soon.
I work with enterprise Unix systems in my job. In production environments you always have to look at what change is going to do for you, be it a patch or a new release of software (including your OS). Change for changes sake generally gets IT managers sacked. There needs to be a business reason driving change.
I thought the article was quite well written and thought out until...
The snide comment on "your unelected president."
Let's get a few things straight:
- Presidents are *NOT* elected by popular vote, regardless of what Mr. Gore, et. al. would have you believe.
- Presidents *ARE* elected by the Electoral College. President Bush won the Electoral College.
Whether you think Mr. Bush stole the election or not is immaterial now. I for one, believe Mr. Gore tried to steal it with various shenanigans. That belief is also immaterial.
Mr. Bush *IS* the President Of The United States! Deal with it, move on, and quit whining about the election. It is over!!!! We have much more important things to deal with now.
I use a Linksys as my hardware solution. Works great.
I then use Tiny Personal Firewall or ZoneAlarm for my PC's. I like either of these products because I'm alerted about outbound connections (trojan protection and in one case it alerted me to the fact I didn't have NAV enabled for a mail account).
I previously ran a FreeBSD firewall on an old laptop. I switched to the LinkSys to reduce clutter and simplify life (I have twins and don't really have time to mess with keeping up-to-date on FreeBSD patches/etc.).
I like the PPTP pass-through on the LinkSys. Previously I hung the company laptop docking station on my DMZ (I have two statics) and relied on the laptop firewall software. If I wanted to do anything internally I had to plug in the PC Card Ethernet to my network (major pain). Now, I don't need to do that.
For me it was a matter of simplifying things.
I think you are going to find that as we move forward with larger and larger drives we are going to hit a physics brick wall. Tape drives are not going to be able to back the data up fast enough (never mind the insane cost).
Disk space is cheap. Mirror your primaries to keep your data available. Back up to other disks for your primary backup methods.
Tapes are probably going to be used only for disaster recovery purposes (think offsite storage). Before you say, what about 3rd party disk vaulters... yes some companies will go that route, but a lot of others are going to be more comfortable with tape because it is easier to transport tapes to a hot site for recovery.
If you knew about it or know about a future one and don't try to stop... you are dead!
Bye bye Mr. Arafat and all of the rest of the world's cowardly tangos! We won't miss you. It is time to return to the policy of the '80's in respect to this... deal with them harshly.
Trials are not necessary. This is war.
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That is fine. However, the issue is with installer code. The software company has no control over whether the user has zsh installed. They must depend on the default shell (that being bash) is present.
I would echo what has already been said, and do not use bash esoterics. Stick to the least common denominator between sh and bash.
I'm not excusing, nor condoning what has been done in these examples.
However, there is such a thing as signature release. It is a great thing if you're never home (of course you take on the risk). Pay by credit card for all mail orders.
My best story is last year I ordered a Viewsonic PF795 (a schweeet 19" monitor!). FedEx Ground (RPS then) was the delivery agent. It was supposed to arrive on a given day, but didn't. I checked the tracking number and it showed delivered (this was before retiring for the evening). I go out the front door the next day, and there is my monitor. I guess the driver marked delivery a little prematurely, or was running late (those deliveries are actually in the evening for my address). No harm done, so I didn't bother yapping to FedEx.
Again, always use a credit card for your mail orders. That is your best protection. If never shows up or happens to be damaged, refuse payment. Let your credit card company and vendor bicker over it. Your exposure is $50.
10km generally. If you have the proper hardware (think DWDM) you can go further. Latency is the issue.
Multiple writers (my favorite is The Apostle Paul), but this Book stands the test of time. It is as relevant today as it was 2000 years ago.
I disagree with the statement that rental prices will go through the roof if DVD's are declared software.
The law of supply and demand still applies. If you charge an outrageous price for your product, I won't buy. Period!
If you get enough folks like myself refusing to buy your outrageously priced product, you will go out of business.
Not to nit pick you, but you are comparing apples to oranges. Sure GNOME works great under Linux. However, the post you responded to was complaining about it under Solaris. It is a totally different animal with the GNOME addon Sun provides (i.e. it isn't ready for prime time).
Boxen!!
Go ahead and lose it now. :-P
This shouldn't surprise anyone. Tom has been questionable in the past and is arrogant to an extreme.
AMD must have pissed him off.
Perhaps I should send some virtual Delta Force troopers in to deal with your virtual terrorists, eh?
How about my Apple ][+ with Zilog Z80 add-in running CP/M? The Zilog rocks!
If you had bothered reading my post, you would have noticed I mentioned $100 million was likely a 10 year total cost of ownership. Included in that cost of ownership is personnel (i.e. labor).
I did NOT say it would cost $100 million to build this.
I DO say it could cost $100 million to build and operate over a 10 year period.
You can do something like this with VERITAS Volume Manager.
Create 2 plexes, one composed of sub-disk(s) from your RAM disk(s), and one composed of sub-disk(s) from hard disks. Attach these to a volume (i.e. you are now mirrored).
Set the read policy to preferred for the ram-disk plex. The end result is your data is mirrored to non-volatile storage, but your reads are generally satisfied from RAM disk.
You miss the biggest cost... storage and availability of data.
We are talking in the 100's of GB, if not TB's. When you use that many spindles, you are going to statistically suffer spindle failure on the rate of 1 every week or two. That rate will increase as your spindle count increases.
You will have to go RAID-5 or mirror. As this will most likely be read intensive, RAID-5 would be an economical way to protect this data while improving read performance.
Availability is going to be another factor here. Think clustering, as it wouldn't do to have MIT's OpenCourseWare offline.
This costs money. Depending on their projected usage you can easily get upwards of $100M in cost. Remember this is a 10yr cost, so think total cost of ownsership (infrastructure, personnel costs, maintenance, etc.).
It depends on your location's climate. There is also Jet-A. The difference is the additives. If I recall correctly, A1 adds prist (which helps to prevent freezing of the fuel).
Wrong!
Jet-A1, which is the fuel used at this time of year *is* a diesel cut of fuel. It is very safe, compared to gasoline.
Diesel cuts are not as volatile as gasoline cuts, and hence tend to burn rather than explode.
You are mistaking current jet fuel to what used to be jet fuel. In the military, JP-8 is currently used for all purposes. It is for all intents and purposes fairly equivalent to Jet-A1 (their are some additive differences). JP-4 used to be the fuel of choice for Army and Air Force aviation. It is a gasoline cut, and is very volatile. It tends to make a good explosion when hit with munitions. The Navy has always used JP-7 (and may be using -8 now) because it is a diesel cut. It is much safer for carrier operations.
If you were to pour JP-4 (or gasoline) on the ground, wait a few seconds, and then ignite, you would be rewarded with an explosion as the vapors burn.
Repeat the same experiment with Jet-A1, JP-7, JP-8, or diesel, and you will get a slower burn (not an explosion).
I won't argue the fact that because Jet-A1 tends to burn, not explode, the effect at the WTC was enhanced (i.e. a gasoline cut of fuel would have exploded but perhaps not caused structural failure of the steel).
I spent 3 1/2 years as a Petroleum Officer in the U.S. Army and have a B.S. in Petroleum Engineering.
I personally am awaiting the day of affordable fuel cells for the home.
Micro-distribution, especially if we are just hooked up to our house, has many positive qualities.
No more expensive transmission line losses (won't be needing superconducting high tension lines)
No single points of failure in the power grid (i.e. the grid could have a hiccup, but are home/industrial power source keeps on generating)
Cogeneration, we hook up to the grid for fault tolerance if our power source goes down, plus we sell our surplus to the grid
We can slow the growth of our massive power plants, as they only need to supply a less than worst case scenario of power to those hooked up to the grid (the odds of all home/industrial sources going down simultaneously is low)
VMware supports your:
Hardware -> VMware -> OS(s) scenario.
This requires VMware ESX Server.
See http://www.vmware.com/products/server/esx_features .html for more information.
It would appear HPaQ is looking to Linux for it's long term Unix plans, else they aren't going to use Itanium and stick with PA-RISC.
Check this URL out for the Personal Security Advisor. You should run it with Admin privileges to get the most benefit.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/mpsa/start.asp
You rule dude! ROFL!!
/usr mounted.
ed (or any other line editor) can get you out of a sling when you are at single user and can't get
If I could mod you up I would. If I were in this boat my knee jerk reaction would be anger.
However, you have to think about what XP would bring you. If a substantial number of those 200 clients were laptops, I would say (from what I've read, not first hand experience) there might be a case to take the laptops to XP. I haven't read anything that would lead me to believe you need to take your servers to XP from 2000 anytime soon.
I work with enterprise Unix systems in my job. In production environments you always have to look at what change is going to do for you, be it a patch or a new release of software (including your OS). Change for changes sake generally gets IT managers sacked. There needs to be a business reason driving change.
I thought the article was quite well written and thought out until...
The snide comment on "your unelected president."
Let's get a few things straight:
- Presidents are *NOT* elected by popular vote, regardless of what Mr. Gore, et. al. would have you believe.
- Presidents *ARE* elected by the Electoral College. President Bush won the Electoral College.
Whether you think Mr. Bush stole the election or not is immaterial now. I for one, believe Mr. Gore tried to steal it with various shenanigans. That belief is also immaterial.
Mr. Bush *IS* the President Of The United States! Deal with it, move on, and quit whining about the election. It is over!!!! We have much more important things to deal with now.
I use a Linksys as my hardware solution. Works great. I then use Tiny Personal Firewall or ZoneAlarm for my PC's. I like either of these products because I'm alerted about outbound connections (trojan protection and in one case it alerted me to the fact I didn't have NAV enabled for a mail account). I previously ran a FreeBSD firewall on an old laptop. I switched to the LinkSys to reduce clutter and simplify life (I have twins and don't really have time to mess with keeping up-to-date on FreeBSD patches/etc.). I like the PPTP pass-through on the LinkSys. Previously I hung the company laptop docking station on my DMZ (I have two statics) and relied on the laptop firewall software. If I wanted to do anything internally I had to plug in the PC Card Ethernet to my network (major pain). Now, I don't need to do that. For me it was a matter of simplifying things.
I think you are going to find that as we move forward with larger and larger drives we are going to hit a physics brick wall. Tape drives are not going to be able to back the data up fast enough (never mind the insane cost). Disk space is cheap. Mirror your primaries to keep your data available. Back up to other disks for your primary backup methods. Tapes are probably going to be used only for disaster recovery purposes (think offsite storage). Before you say, what about 3rd party disk vaulters... yes some companies will go that route, but a lot of others are going to be more comfortable with tape because it is easier to transport tapes to a hot site for recovery.
If you knew about it or know about a future one and don't try to stop... you are dead! Bye bye Mr. Arafat and all of the rest of the world's cowardly tangos! We won't miss you. It is time to return to the policy of the '80's in respect to this... deal with them harshly. Trials are not necessary. This is war.