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Frankly, RMS is not one who should be talking about intiutive interfaces.
NO SHIT! Clicking a picture of a disk to save is a lot more intuitive than typing control-x, control-s. And if you can't figure out that the disk is for saving, you might think... hey, "file" might do things with my file, I'll click that, and hey look here it says "save", I wonder if that saves things
Hell, I even like emacs, but Stallman criticizing user interfaces is like Carrot Top criticizing fine theater.
You just aren't "in" enough, or something. He's a voice talent for cartoon network's "adult swim", which is quite popular with nerd-types. It's one of those niche things that is partly popular because of its unpopularity, if that makes any sense. It's chock full of in-jokes and pandering to the tiny fanbase. I thoroughly enjoy it:-D
Agreed. I see a bunch of comments here bashing him for giving shitty answers, dodging the question, et cetera. When the best your community can come up with is "who the fuck are you?" it's no wonder the interviewee doesn't do in-depth research to provide a gripping, life changing read. Besides, the guy is known for playing a fucking spider in diapers on a late night cartoon show targeted at a niche audience. Were you expecting shakespeare?
In Atlanta, the Claremont is affectionately known as the place "where strippers go to die." Seriously, ask anyone in their 20's who lives in the ATL and goes outside once in a while where strippers go to die, and they will say THE CLAREMONT. It's the definition of skanky. In fact, it EXCELS on skank. The whole point of the Claremont is to go for entertainment value, not to get turned on. It's kinda like the Jerry Springer show, but with even more tits, fewer fights, and nastier women. Scary thought, huh?
The figure is only for bot nets, which are a far more disruptive compromise than your standard trojan. A chunk of spyware on your own pc only hurts you, a zombie pc can be used to phish lots of cc numbers from unsuspecting suckers. I'm sure if you count spyware and the like, the number will skyrocket, but you start to get into grey areas when the spyware was installed by the user himself, willingly clicking through a long EULA.
I'm laughing my ass off at the moderators on this one. Flamebait? My first post was about trying to clarify the difference between different free ipod schemes. Troll? My second post was addressing the AC's ridiculous claims that I'm some evil spammer from hell. These idiots post this drivel constantly on here trashing a system with blatant falsities, and get modded up, and I make a clear, concise summary of my experience with the service and get modded down with a vengeance. Slashdot moderation cracks me the fuck up sometimes. Now as the topic says, THIS post is offtopic and should be modded down as such. I've got karma to burn =)
Really, how awful is the spam here? It's a tiny little note at the bottom of my sig. I agree that people who post thousands of messages to blogs and shit just to sell their scheme are scum. Most don't do that. Most do as I do, add a little note to the bottom of a message here or there. You act like that is some horrible offense that has ruined your life forever. My free ipod link wastes no more bandwidth than somebody's stupid joke sig, and hey it might even lead someone to a service they like.
As far as "supporting spammers"... I used a dedicated email address to sign up for the gratis network sites, three of them total. Not once have I recieved spam. NOT ONCE. Not a single message. Supporting spammers? It's specifically AGAINST the gratis network terms of service to spam your referral link.
Selfish and screw you attitude? You have to be joking. My addition of a tiny link doesn't do jack shit to hurt anyone else. The only thing selfish about it is, I'm not going to change my own actions because some pissant crybaby can't handle a whopping sentence in my sig. I'm not selling myself out to a marketer. I signed up for blockbuster online. I like the service. I may not have signed up for it had I never seen the free ipod site. I'm not selling anyone else out to a marketer. You are free to click my link or not, it's your choice. No one is forcing it down your throat. I know it would pain you to admit it, but gratis has a business model that WORKS, and doesn't hurt anyone in the process.
This is an important distinction, and one far too few people pay attention to. The gratis sites have a ton of news stories proclaiming their legitimacy. I've personally already completed my offers for an ipod shuffle, and am waiting for it to ship. The 20 gig ipod and mac mini will soon follow, no doubt. I have many friends who are interested in trying out the blockbuster online service anyway, so I've been getting them to use my referral links to sign up for it.
My point is... not all pyramid schemes are alike. Sure the gratis sites still are a bit cheezy, but they seem to have a decent respect for the customer, and have a working business plan that relies not on fucking you over, but on the majority of signups being too lazy to complete their referrals.
People blast me left and right for being a spamming asshole who is supporting some dark, evil empire, but I say screw em, a little leg work for a poor graduate student to get some technological goodies is well worth it.
The really sad person in all of this is the guy on/. who proudly proclaims that he's foe'ing all people who link free offers in their sigs. How meaningless must your life be, to derive such personal satisfaction from ignoring some words on the internet.
What, you didn't get your ipod for free? Get with the times, man!
Note: yes, I AM whoring the ipod pyramid scheme in my sig. Yes I am making fun of these very schemes. Half the fun, for me, of the free ipod scheme, is the challenge of it.
Yeah, I'm defending a cheezy scheme, but misinformation is stupid so here goes...
willing to give you a free iPod after they get one first
No one who's giving you a referral link is promising you an ipod. Rather, they are giving a link to a website that will give you an ipod in exchange for doing the legwork to do some "viral marketing" for them. Also, there is no requirement for me to get my free ipod before you get yours. You get five referrals, you get the ipod. What your referrer does means nothing. Whether your refer-ees refer anyone means nothing. This is the primary thing that seperates it from a classic pyramid scheme.
and you pay money (their version of free, not mine)
I've done three of these free promotions. Two of them were free 1-month trials. I cancelled the accounts after two weeks and wasn't billed a cent. The third was a trial of Blockbuster's version of netflix, a service I was going to sign up for anyway, and thoroughly enjoy.
and register for a bunch of spam and other marketing ploys (again, their version of free not mine)
I haven't recieved a single piece of spam on the email addresses I used for the sites I signed up for. The marketing ploy part, I suppose, could be a valid statement, since the entire POINT of the scheme is to be a marketing ploy.
To summarize, yeah you might think the freeX.com schemes are sneaky and lame, but your view of them is filled with misinformation. If you want to hate something, feel free, but don't hate it based on ignorance.
Supposedly the netscape version has built in the IE rendering engine for compatibility, while still maintaining the security of Firefox.
This is a dangerous statement to be making. A large number of the security flaws in IE lie within the rendering engine itself, not in the surrounding wrappers. There was a big stink with yahoo messenger, because it uses IE mshtml.dll to render text, and was thus vulnerable to the iframe exploit. If a program renders in mshtml.dll, no amount of wrappers are going to suddenly fix the security flaws inherent in the engine. The best you can hope for is to eliminate some of the higher-up bugs with IE.
WTF? Yeah, you're right, they were engineered using imaginary equations. Maybe according to the physics you took (and probably didn't understand) in high school, they can't fly, but to claim the most fundamental science we as humans can grasp can't explain helicopter flight is both incredibly stupid and incredibly closed minded. Spend five seconds googling and you can see the variety of books that exist solely for studying the dynamics of helicopter flight. It really blows my mind to believe that people think there's some kind of magic in products being designed. All of these wonderful modern things work BECAUSE we are able to understand equations and model their behavior, not because we kept guessing until we figured it out.
Yeah it's amazing to me that firefox hasn't supported middle clicking for so damn long. I've been sticking to safari until they get this one nagging issue fixed. It's a shame that middle clicking doesn't work, too, because I would love to have extensions available. I have become so accustomed to middle clicking, however, that I'm not about to give it up.
God damn do I hate the stupid space pen myth. Fischer developed the pen at his own expense, as graphite pencils had the potential to cause problems in the cabin. Remember, kids, graphite conducts electricity, and a tiny little pencil tip floating around the cabin could be a very bad thing. It takes all of ten seconds googling to debunk this stupid urban legend, but I constantly see it brought up over and over again.
With all the misspellings, grammar mistakes, and general idiotic tone of this review, this looked more like a posting on a kiddie xbox fanboy forum than a slashvertisement. I can accept the occasional "evar". I can even tolerate the fact that it comes from the department of using the word extremely in an extremely redundant fashion department. But a review that contains the ever-so-insightful rhetorical answer "kinda"? That's just absurd. This thing sounds like it was written by a fourteen year old, months too late, and has tacked on a similarly crappy review of a similarly crappy product. I want some of whatever the editors have been smoking lately.
P.S. For those who are going to attack some typo or obscure grammatical error in this post - piss off. I'm not talking about an occasional mistake, I'm talking about constant and obvious blunders.
Yes. While the majority of these idiots in the specific rooms I go to are adults, they by no means represent what MOST adults do. MOST adults are mature enough to find reasonable ways to interact with people. Just because the people doing it are adults, does not make it any less childish.
"It still unclear what motivated this 43-year-old to launch such a bizarre worm."
What? Mean and stupid doesn't cover it?
I hate to admit it, but I often entertain myself when extremely bored with yahoo chat rooms and the like. Without fail, the biggest idiot script kiddies in the room, running stupid booter programs they downloaded off the web, are adults. They run the gamut from 20s through the 50s. It's really sad to see supposed adults taking such glee in childish bullshit.
Wow, it's SO ignorant to take two animals, and let them do EXACTLY what they would do in nature. What kind of fucking horrible person would DARE let captive animals get a tiny taste of what it's like to exist in the the wild and not on a Wal-Mart shelf?
They are already doing this. They had a commercial at the super bowl, with a picture of an ipod + 10000 songs = $1000, then napster + 10000 songs = $15/month.
It's on the front page because it gives an excuse to take a cheap shot at MS, troll for a flame war, get lots of hits, and bring home some advertising dollars.
Watch the movie. In the scene where Dom actually shows Peter his prototype for the "jump to conclusions" mat, there is a space labeled "Loose a turn", the joke being that Dom spelled it incorrectly. Thanks for completely exposing the joke by trying to act superior while failing to get it.
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Frankly, RMS is not one who should be talking about intiutive interfaces.
NO SHIT! Clicking a picture of a disk to save is a lot more intuitive than typing control-x, control-s. And if you can't figure out that the disk is for saving, you might think... hey, "file" might do things with my file, I'll click that, and hey look here it says "save", I wonder if that saves things
Hell, I even like emacs, but Stallman criticizing user interfaces is like Carrot Top criticizing fine theater.
You just aren't "in" enough, or something. He's a voice talent for cartoon network's "adult swim", which is quite popular with nerd-types. It's one of those niche things that is partly popular because of its unpopularity, if that makes any sense. It's chock full of in-jokes and pandering to the tiny fanbase. I thoroughly enjoy it :-D
Agreed. I see a bunch of comments here bashing him for giving shitty answers, dodging the question, et cetera. When the best your community can come up with is "who the fuck are you?" it's no wonder the interviewee doesn't do in-depth research to provide a gripping, life changing read. Besides, the guy is known for playing a fucking spider in diapers on a late night cartoon show targeted at a niche audience. Were you expecting shakespeare?
In Atlanta, the Claremont is affectionately known as the place "where strippers go to die." Seriously, ask anyone in their 20's who lives in the ATL and goes outside once in a while where strippers go to die, and they will say THE CLAREMONT. It's the definition of skanky. In fact, it EXCELS on skank. The whole point of the Claremont is to go for entertainment value, not to get turned on. It's kinda like the Jerry Springer show, but with even more tits, fewer fights, and nastier women. Scary thought, huh?
Furthermore the figure seems far too low.
The figure is only for bot nets, which are a far more disruptive compromise than your standard trojan. A chunk of spyware on your own pc only hurts you, a zombie pc can be used to phish lots of cc numbers from unsuspecting suckers. I'm sure if you count spyware and the like, the number will skyrocket, but you start to get into grey areas when the spyware was installed by the user himself, willingly clicking through a long EULA.
Poor people suck.
THIS got modded up? Un-be-fucking-lievable.
I'm laughing my ass off at the moderators on this one. Flamebait? My first post was about trying to clarify the difference between different free ipod schemes. Troll? My second post was addressing the AC's ridiculous claims that I'm some evil spammer from hell. These idiots post this drivel constantly on here trashing a system with blatant falsities, and get modded up, and I make a clear, concise summary of my experience with the service and get modded down with a vengeance. Slashdot moderation cracks me the fuck up sometimes. Now as the topic says, THIS post is offtopic and should be modded down as such. I've got karma to burn =)
Hate to feed a troll but...
Really, how awful is the spam here? It's a tiny little note at the bottom of my sig. I agree that people who post thousands of messages to blogs and shit just to sell their scheme are scum. Most don't do that. Most do as I do, add a little note to the bottom of a message here or there. You act like that is some horrible offense that has ruined your life forever. My free ipod link wastes no more bandwidth than somebody's stupid joke sig, and hey it might even lead someone to a service they like.
As far as "supporting spammers"... I used a dedicated email address to sign up for the gratis network sites, three of them total. Not once have I recieved spam. NOT ONCE. Not a single message. Supporting spammers? It's specifically AGAINST the gratis network terms of service to spam your referral link.
Selfish and screw you attitude? You have to be joking. My addition of a tiny link doesn't do jack shit to hurt anyone else. The only thing selfish about it is, I'm not going to change my own actions because some pissant crybaby can't handle a whopping sentence in my sig. I'm not selling myself out to a marketer. I signed up for blockbuster online. I like the service. I may not have signed up for it had I never seen the free ipod site. I'm not selling anyone else out to a marketer. You are free to click my link or not, it's your choice. No one is forcing it down your throat. I know it would pain you to admit it, but gratis has a business model that WORKS, and doesn't hurt anyone in the process.
This is an important distinction, and one far too few people pay attention to. The gratis sites have a ton of news stories proclaiming their legitimacy. I've personally already completed my offers for an ipod shuffle, and am waiting for it to ship. The 20 gig ipod and mac mini will soon follow, no doubt. I have many friends who are interested in trying out the blockbuster online service anyway, so I've been getting them to use my referral links to sign up for it.
/. who proudly proclaims that he's foe'ing all people who link free offers in their sigs. How meaningless must your life be, to derive such personal satisfaction from ignoring some words on the internet.
My point is... not all pyramid schemes are alike. Sure the gratis sites still are a bit cheezy, but they seem to have a decent respect for the customer, and have a working business plan that relies not on fucking you over, but on the majority of signups being too lazy to complete their referrals.
People blast me left and right for being a spamming asshole who is supporting some dark, evil empire, but I say screw em, a little leg work for a poor graduate student to get some technological goodies is well worth it.
The really sad person in all of this is the guy on
What, you didn't get your ipod for free? Get with the times, man!
Note: yes, I AM whoring the ipod pyramid scheme in my sig. Yes I am making fun of these very schemes. Half the fun, for me, of the free ipod scheme, is the challenge of it.
Yeah, I'm defending a cheezy scheme, but misinformation is stupid so here goes...
willing to give you a free iPod after they get one first
No one who's giving you a referral link is promising you an ipod. Rather, they are giving a link to a website that will give you an ipod in exchange for doing the legwork to do some "viral marketing" for them. Also, there is no requirement for me to get my free ipod before you get yours. You get five referrals, you get the ipod. What your referrer does means nothing. Whether your refer-ees refer anyone means nothing. This is the primary thing that seperates it from a classic pyramid scheme.
and you pay money (their version of free, not mine)
I've done three of these free promotions. Two of them were free 1-month trials. I cancelled the accounts after two weeks and wasn't billed a cent. The third was a trial of Blockbuster's version of netflix, a service I was going to sign up for anyway, and thoroughly enjoy.
and register for a bunch of spam and other marketing ploys (again, their version of free not mine)
I haven't recieved a single piece of spam on the email addresses I used for the sites I signed up for. The marketing ploy part, I suppose, could be a valid statement, since the entire POINT of the scheme is to be a marketing ploy.
To summarize, yeah you might think the freeX.com schemes are sneaky and lame, but your view of them is filled with misinformation. If you want to hate something, feel free, but don't hate it based on ignorance.
In japan, only old people remember when the power rangers were popular
Supposedly the netscape version has built in the IE rendering engine for compatibility, while still maintaining the security of Firefox.
This is a dangerous statement to be making. A large number of the security flaws in IE lie within the rendering engine itself, not in the surrounding wrappers. There was a big stink with yahoo messenger, because it uses IE mshtml.dll to render text, and was thus vulnerable to the iframe exploit. If a program renders in mshtml.dll, no amount of wrappers are going to suddenly fix the security flaws inherent in the engine. The best you can hope for is to eliminate some of the higher-up bugs with IE.
Helicopters (according to physics) can't fly.
WTF? Yeah, you're right, they were engineered using imaginary equations. Maybe according to the physics you took (and probably didn't understand) in high school, they can't fly, but to claim the most fundamental science we as humans can grasp can't explain helicopter flight is both incredibly stupid and incredibly closed minded. Spend five seconds googling and you can see the variety of books that exist solely for studying the dynamics of helicopter flight. It really blows my mind to believe that people think there's some kind of magic in products being designed. All of these wonderful modern things work BECAUSE we are able to understand equations and model their behavior, not because we kept guessing until we figured it out.
Yeah it's amazing to me that firefox hasn't supported middle clicking for so damn long. I've been sticking to safari until they get this one nagging issue fixed. It's a shame that middle clicking doesn't work, too, because I would love to have extensions available. I have become so accustomed to middle clicking, however, that I'm not about to give it up.
God damn do I hate the stupid space pen myth. Fischer developed the pen at his own expense, as graphite pencils had the potential to cause problems in the cabin. Remember, kids, graphite conducts electricity, and a tiny little pencil tip floating around the cabin could be a very bad thing. It takes all of ten seconds googling to debunk this stupid urban legend, but I constantly see it brought up over and over again.
With all the misspellings, grammar mistakes, and general idiotic tone of this review, this looked more like a posting on a kiddie xbox fanboy forum than a slashvertisement. I can accept the occasional "evar". I can even tolerate the fact that it comes from the department of using the word extremely in an extremely redundant fashion department. But a review that contains the ever-so-insightful rhetorical answer "kinda"? That's just absurd. This thing sounds like it was written by a fourteen year old, months too late, and has tacked on a similarly crappy review of a similarly crappy product. I want some of whatever the editors have been smoking lately.
P.S. For those who are going to attack some typo or obscure grammatical error in this post - piss off. I'm not talking about an occasional mistake, I'm talking about constant and obvious blunders.
is it really accurate to still call it childish?
Yes. While the majority of these idiots in the specific rooms I go to are adults, they by no means represent what MOST adults do. MOST adults are mature enough to find reasonable ways to interact with people. Just because the people doing it are adults, does not make it any less childish.
"It still unclear what motivated this 43-year-old to launch such a bizarre worm."
What? Mean and stupid doesn't cover it?
I hate to admit it, but I often entertain myself when extremely bored with yahoo chat rooms and the like. Without fail, the biggest idiot script kiddies in the room, running stupid booter programs they downloaded off the web, are adults. They run the gamut from 20s through the 50s. It's really sad to see supposed adults taking such glee in childish bullshit.
Wow, it's SO ignorant to take two animals, and let them do EXACTLY what they would do in nature. What kind of fucking horrible person would DARE let captive animals get a tiny taste of what it's like to exist in the the wild and not on a Wal-Mart shelf?
They are already doing this. They had a commercial at the super bowl, with a picture of an ipod + 10000 songs = $1000, then napster + 10000 songs = $15/month.
Twisty little passages, all alike?
It's on the front page because it gives an excuse to take a cheap shot at MS, troll for a flame war, get lots of hits, and bring home some advertising dollars.
You fail it.
Watch the movie. In the scene where Dom actually shows Peter his prototype for the "jump to conclusions" mat, there is a space labeled "Loose a turn", the joke being that Dom spelled it incorrectly. Thanks for completely exposing the joke by trying to act superior while failing to get it.
Aw damn, I landed on "loose a turn"