"Seriously someone give me a good reason to pay $30 for a browser, even if it is "the fastest browser on earth, that's not worth $30 to me..."
It's got a really nice interface. Not only is it intuitive, but quite powerful too. Here are a few things I do with it: (note: I do not intend to imply that these are things Mozilla cannot do. I'm simply stating what I use it for.)
- I post my artwork on a lot of different forums. For each project, I create a folder. In that folder there's a bookmark linking to every single thread I've started about that project. When I right-click on that folder, I can say "open each one in a new window." That's exactly what it does. When the windows are done loading, the titlebar of each page turns the text blue.
- The magnify button scales up text and images, nice for zooming in on artwork I browse. (Porn too!)
- The transfers window is nice for downloading files. Not only does it stay out of the way, but it also allows you to re-xfer and resume files without having to go hunt down a link.
- Opera's email client is.. well it's different. (At least from Outlook, Netscape, etc...) It downloads one copy of the message. Folders are created, not for copies of the message, but for different ways of viewing it. So one folder might say "Show me all the messages that have SLASHDOT in the headers", but another folder would say show me all the folders with MICROSOFT in the headers". You can imagine that those two emails could overlap sometimes? Well instead of getting dupe messages, you get the one message, but you can see it in either folder. It's sort of like Outlook's categories. I don't really like it for personal messages, but man it's great for email notifications that somebody has replied to your post. When you right click on a link, you can say "Open in background window". So your mail window stays up, but the new window appears behind it. That's great if you want to go down a list of emails and open links to them.
Okay, I babbled a lot on this topic, but I seriously love Opera for forum browsing because of how its email works.
- Opera's customization is surprisingly robust. Add buttons.. remove buttons... reorder them. I am continually suprised by Opera's intuitiveness in this regard. They've really through what somebody might want to do when they click, drag, or right click.
- Refresh every n minutes. That feature's cool if you're waiting for a website to update.
- Linked Windows: Click a link in one window, the response happens in another. This is a GREAT porn surfing feature! (I ain't gonna lie to you guys, porn surfing is important to me!)
- You can transplant it to another machine. This is undocumented, but I've been able to move Opera with all my bookmarks, email, etc to another machine. It took some editing of.INI files etc, but it was doable. You Linux folks may not care, but us Windows guys like programs that aren't overly dependent on the Registry.
- You can turn off images with the click of an icon. I found this useful while travelling once. The dialup connection was HORRID. So I turned off image downloading and boom the internet was much more responsive. (IT's also good for avoiding Goatse links.:P)
Opera's popularity is understandable. Mozilla may have a lot of what I mentioned. At that point, it becomes a matter of personal preference.
"What makes Opera so appealing, and are they ready to go public?"
Not everybody has those stability issues. I'm running Opera on 3 different machines and do not have the instabilities anybody is mentioning. A friend of mine has a computer virtually identical to my own, and Opera frequently crashed on him.
So, to answer your question, not everybody is sharing your experience. When Opera is stable, you get a hell of a browser. When it's unstable, then Mozilla is a far better choice. I just wish I knew why it behaves so well on some machines and so poorly on others.
A.) I'm not actually paying antyhing from a cash point of view. There are text based ads in the upper right portion of my screen that otherwise does nothing. (They used to have comics in there, I miss them.) Small price to pay for a browser with such a heavily refined UI.
B.) I like Opera's interface more than Mozilla's. It's friendlier and more attuned to my personal tastes. I've boosted my productivity considerably with Opera.
C.) If I support 'free software', is it really free anymore? Making money off it defeats the purpose of working on it.
Sorry, but I'm going to use what's better for me. If you think that's evil, then yeah, whatever. I'd rather reward the people who've made a better product for me than encourage a group of people to maybe possibly consider working for my benefit.
I'm sorry man, didn't mean to bust your chops about it. I was thinking more about my uncle when I said that actually. He's not much into technology even though he's the CEO of a place that's very technology based. He didn't like me talking to people on the net. He felt I should be out 'meeting real people'. He didn't realize that I had gone that route, and just plain wasn't cllicking with anybody. (I'm not particularly fond of Portland in that sense.) Guess he wasn't as right as he thought he was, though. Now I'm living with my girlfriend of two years. We're spending Valentine's Day #3 together. She is a 'real person' on the other end of that chat window, and i'm not sure he ever took the time to realize that.
So yeah, I'm sorry I poked you about it. I don't really know a better term for it. (I did like the 'face-to-face' remark you made, though.) I just hope that as the years go by, meeting people on the net becomes less taboo. That appears to be happening, slowly...
" Does the internet make you lonely, or does being lonely make you want to use the internet?"
Nar that's not really the question anymore, it's "should one who is depressed get off the net?" The problem is that some people heal themselves with human interaction on the net, others perpetuate it. I've met people in both categories, so I don't really know the answer. The difference between the two is really a matter of "Are they trying to help themselves"?
"Jurassic Park a product? And there was me thinking it was a movie."
Lightwave is meant for the "I gotta have it yesterday" workflow that TV studios often adopt. They probably used it because they could rough together a bunch of the scenes on it and see how they look before they dump days worth of render time into generating the dinos. I doubt anything you saw on-screen was LW generated, that doesn't mean it wasn't extremely important to their workflow.
"Games do not cause violence but they do desensitize children to violence and they don't take crimes of violence serious."
This only goes to a certain extent. I've played every violent game and watched every violent video ever made, Rotten.com still sickens me.
"When they play wrestling games they usually will imitate the wrestling moves and hurt someone without realizing it."
I think wrestling that you see on TV is more likely to cause this, but that's a detail that doesn't interfere with your point. I would like to point out, though, that if you show a graph of imitated wrestling injuries and compare it to the popularity of wrestling games you're not going to find a similar curve.
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"Seriously someone give me a good reason to pay $30 for a browser, even if it is "the fastest browser on earth, that's not worth $30 to me..."
.. well it's different. (At least from Outlook, Netscape, etc...) It downloads one copy of the message. Folders are created, not for copies of the message, but for different ways of viewing it. So one folder might say "Show me all the messages that have SLASHDOT in the headers", but another folder would say show me all the folders with MICROSOFT in the headers". You can imagine that those two emails could overlap sometimes? Well instead of getting dupe messages, you get the one message, but you can see it in either folder. It's sort of like Outlook's categories. I don't really like it for personal messages, but man it's great for email notifications that somebody has replied to your post. When you right click on a link, you can say "Open in background window". So your mail window stays up, but the new window appears behind it. That's great if you want to go down a list of emails and open links to them.
.INI files etc, but it was doable. You Linux folks may not care, but us Windows guys like programs that aren't overly dependent on the Registry.
:P)
It's got a really nice interface. Not only is it intuitive, but quite powerful too. Here are a few things I do with it: (note: I do not intend to imply that these are things Mozilla cannot do. I'm simply stating what I use it for.)
- I post my artwork on a lot of different forums. For each project, I create a folder. In that folder there's a bookmark linking to every single thread I've started about that project. When I right-click on that folder, I can say "open each one in a new window." That's exactly what it does. When the windows are done loading, the titlebar of each page turns the text blue.
- The magnify button scales up text and images, nice for zooming in on artwork I browse. (Porn too!)
- The transfers window is nice for downloading files. Not only does it stay out of the way, but it also allows you to re-xfer and resume files without having to go hunt down a link.
- Opera's email client is
Okay, I babbled a lot on this topic, but I seriously love Opera for forum browsing because of how its email works.
- Opera's customization is surprisingly robust. Add buttons.. remove buttons... reorder them. I am continually suprised by Opera's intuitiveness in this regard. They've really through what somebody might want to do when they click, drag, or right click.
- Refresh every n minutes. That feature's cool if you're waiting for a website to update.
- Linked Windows: Click a link in one window, the response happens in another. This is a GREAT porn surfing feature! (I ain't gonna lie to you guys, porn surfing is important to me!)
- You can transplant it to another machine. This is undocumented, but I've been able to move Opera with all my bookmarks, email, etc to another machine. It took some editing of
- You can turn off images with the click of an icon. I found this useful while travelling once. The dialup connection was HORRID. So I turned off image downloading and boom the internet was much more responsive. (IT's also good for avoiding Goatse links.
Opera's popularity is understandable. Mozilla may have a lot of what I mentioned. At that point, it becomes a matter of personal preference.
"Can someone explain why companies love going public so damn much?"
Golden parachute?
"What makes Opera so appealing, and are they ready to go public?"
Not everybody has those stability issues. I'm running Opera on 3 different machines and do not have the instabilities anybody is mentioning. A friend of mine has a computer virtually identical to my own, and Opera frequently crashed on him.
So, to answer your question, not everybody is sharing your experience. When Opera is stable, you get a hell of a browser. When it's unstable, then Mozilla is a far better choice. I just wish I knew why it behaves so well on some machines and so poorly on others.
"Why pay for Opera when Mozilla v1.6 is out."
A.) I'm not actually paying antyhing from a cash point of view. There are text based ads in the upper right portion of my screen that otherwise does nothing. (They used to have comics in there, I miss them.) Small price to pay for a browser with such a heavily refined UI.
B.) I like Opera's interface more than Mozilla's. It's friendlier and more attuned to my personal tastes. I've boosted my productivity considerably with Opera.
C.) If I support 'free software', is it really free anymore? Making money off it defeats the purpose of working on it.
Sorry, but I'm going to use what's better for me. If you think that's evil, then yeah, whatever. I'd rather reward the people who've made a better product for me than encourage a group of people to maybe possibly consider working for my benefit.
"What If Dark Matter Really Doesn't Exist?"
Then wait for Star Trek to invent a new theory.
"Maybe because that book has already been written?"
Off the top of my head, I'd say it's because it's easier to get normal everyday peeps to come by and say 'good job'.
"why the frequent name changes?"
They should just call it 'Linternet Explorer.' Think of all the times they'll get free advertising on Slashdot!!
"I usually ask "Why are we having this meeting? No. Really". It never gets answered satisfactorily. Am I asking anything wrong??"
It's annoying that bringing laptops to meetings is becoming taboo, isn't it?
"Does anyone around here have an interest in watching a movie on a 1.5" (4 cm) lcd?"
Anybody with a girlfriend who likes watching Bennifer movies.
I'm sorry man, didn't mean to bust your chops about it. I was thinking more about my uncle when I said that actually. He's not much into technology even though he's the CEO of a place that's very technology based. He didn't like me talking to people on the net. He felt I should be out 'meeting real people'. He didn't realize that I had gone that route, and just plain wasn't cllicking with anybody. (I'm not particularly fond of Portland in that sense.) Guess he wasn't as right as he thought he was, though. Now I'm living with my girlfriend of two years. We're spending Valentine's Day #3 together. She is a 'real person' on the other end of that chat window, and i'm not sure he ever took the time to realize that.
So yeah, I'm sorry I poked you about it. I don't really know a better term for it. (I did like the 'face-to-face' remark you made, though.) I just hope that as the years go by, meeting people on the net becomes less taboo. That appears to be happening, slowly...
" and more time out in the real world meeting real people and talking face to face."
Ever notice how people use the term 'real people' to suggest that people on the net are holographic simulations or something? That's always bugged me.
"In other words, it will take less time to hit BSOD... "
Tee hee giggle snort, never mind that BSODs are virtually non-existent in XP and 2K, they're still funneeeee!
" Does the internet make you lonely, or does being lonely make you want to use the internet?"
Nar that's not really the question anymore, it's "should one who is depressed get off the net?" The problem is that some people heal themselves with human interaction on the net, others perpetuate it. I've met people in both categories, so I don't really know the answer. The difference between the two is really a matter of "Are they trying to help themselves"?
"tell that to my girlfriend!"
Can't, she's asleep.
"Jurassic Park a product? And there was me thinking it was a movie."
Lightwave is meant for the "I gotta have it yesterday" workflow that TV studios often adopt. They probably used it because they could rough together a bunch of the scenes on it and see how they look before they dump days worth of render time into generating the dinos. I doubt anything you saw on-screen was LW generated, that doesn't mean it wasn't extremely important to their workflow.
"Unfortunately this means 'Mousetronauts' are people who sail into mice."
I have an illustration right here.
"so people in space are what? Homo-tronaughts? "
That's what we were prepared to call Lance Bass.
"Games do not cause violence but they do desensitize children to violence and they don't take crimes of violence serious."
This only goes to a certain extent. I've played every violent game and watched every violent video ever made, Rotten.com still sickens me.
"When they play wrestling games they usually will imitate the wrestling moves and hurt someone without realizing it."
I think wrestling that you see on TV is more likely to cause this, but that's a detail that doesn't interfere with your point. I would like to point out, though, that if you show a graph of imitated wrestling injuries and compare it to the popularity of wrestling games you're not going to find a similar curve.
"When was the Last Time You Used Gopher?"
When Ma ran out of possum.
"veQDuj'oH Dujllj'e' pujwI' HIvlu'chugh quvbe'lu'"
We is condemning food supplies and things? Dude, your accent sucks.
"Or you could just check your mirrors and then look over your shoulder before changing lanes like they teach you to do in freakin driver's ed!"
a.) If you've ever injured your neck, then you know the problem with this.
b.) You're taking your eyes off the road to do that.
c.) Why are you against tecnology that could make the roads safer?
"Which would you choose if you had to choose between..."
Neither. Reality is a shade of gray, not extreme white or black.
This will all come to a climax of hilarity when they reach the two rocks crossing in the shape of an X on the surface of Mars.
I think I'm going to upgrade to BOOT.ini.
"And a win kernel is the road to Hades."
At least the Monica Lewinski jokes finally died down.