"I've not seen one of those in a long, long time."
Yeah but since a lot of users here switched to Linux long ago, they're not aware of this, so they still giggle giggle snort snort over the BSOD jokes. You'd think with all the fun we've been having with IE' security, some fresh material would come in.
So... am I gathering from this that *nix style permissions don't completely prevent malicious apps from running? I ask because I sure hear this argument a lot.
"Which begs the question of what color to make game consoles. Black is 'old and busted', done to death."
That's not why they choose the colors. They do it to make sure it's distinct from both its predecssor AND the other machines. You'll see a lot of going back and forth over the generations. The 3rd XBOX will probably be black.
"Seriously, what were people doing a couple years ago? If your life is that in tuned to google, maybe its time to 'log off' (and pardon the cliche)."
So let me see if I understand your point: The problem isn't that Google is a good service with a well earned reputation, but rather that people are weird. Thanks for the 'insight'. You act like Google's rise through the ranks was an anomoly. Oops, I praised Google. Even though it's helped me do some good stuff, I better 'log off'!
"The first thing this reminded me of was the book 1984, where people are worried that hidden microphones may pick up their anti Big Brother conversations."
Erm. I have some problems with that scenario:
1.) The more that is recorded, the more that has to be sifted through and turned useful. Even with decent voice recognition, this is a hell of a lot of work requiring a LOT of processing power (assuming it's even automatic), lots of bandwidth, and LOTs of mics all over the place to actually catch anybody.
2.) There would need to be a LOT of man power to actually follow up on the percieved threats. This wouldn't be so bad except it's very difficult to imagine there wouldn't be far too many false hits.
3.) Once aware of it, would anybody really be dumb enough to say the wrong thing near one of these mics?
Maybe one day Orwellian Big Brother will be feasible in some form, but I really do think it's a lot farther away than installing wireless mics all over the place. This is why I don't get these images in my mind when Slashdot posts stories like this. Oppressive governments have a history of not being easy to maintain. (not to mention that the benefactors of that sort of power aren't pre-disposed to living a long worry-free life.)
"Thank god... one less Windows user out there now. I am sorry to inform you that they no longer make motherboards for Windows as you might as well install Linux or buy a Mac..."
Good for a chuckle, but Insightful? Did the guy who modded this comment really think a gamer would be happier with Linux or a Mac?
"You end up paying more for a bare-bones motherboard because of their rarity."
I doubt there's much price difference anyway. The reason why mobos have on board lan, for example, is they can add it really cheaply.
Frankly, I wouldn't want a mobo without the frills. Integrated Nic is nice. On-board sounds means there's a backup. On board video, provided you still have an AGP port, can also be used as a backup. When the machine's retired, it can easily be given to somebody else.
"I know. I am a bit strange to think GUI is over-rated. And in very many cases, GUI does the best job. But CLI, text-based, is my preferred choice for a broad variety of applications. Text-based simply gets the job done quicker and more smoothly in many cases. Actually, unless I am working with something that actually requires graphics I prefer text-based.."
In your case, that's great. However, UI isn't just about quick efficient interfaces with the computer, it's also about making an interface that a new user can do something with. A text interface is the WORST interface to give somebody who's never used the system. If a GUI is designed well, you can tell a user what their goal is and they'll work it otu. With a text UI, the user will fly over to Google.
"Still, I don't see the real news here. Full-time employees do more than volunteers?"
Nope. The real news is that one of the bfd's about using Linux (or OSS in general) is that it isn't made by a big evil corporation. The revelation that a lot of what you like about Linux was made by a big corporation (those are typically evil) is shocking.
I dunno if I'd call it 'news' so much as a story intended to stir up a few jokers. On a side note: People shouldn't take the word 'news' in the tagline too seriously.
"corporate blogs are just another arm of their public relations department, everything needs to be positive, big whoop.
Even if negative stuff was allowed, I'm not sure why anybody would trust a corporate blog as the ONLY source of information. I'm not thinking about the common sense factor of it here, but rather the different ways people express themselves. For example: I create 3D artwork. That means I have specific uses for 3D cards. If I have an issue with my card, I'm FAR more likely to ask the question at a place like CGTalk.com than I am to post it on an NVidia blog. So if I were searching for whether or not a card would suit me, that's where I'd go first. I imagine lots of other people would have their own ways of expressing good or bad news about a product.
With that said, hopefully you all will understand why I'd file this story under BFD.
"Look, this may be useful information, but it's not even remotely newsworthy. It's a freakin' intro-level homework exercise."
Given that Slashdot frequently refers to buffer overruns, why is it such a sin that they link to a story that explains them in more detail? So it won't be on CNN, whoop-de-fuck.
"Way to go, Zonk...once again, you've lowered the standard."
Slashdot doesn't even report the stories. It just links to them. What 'standard' is even getting lowered? I hope you don't mean journalistic. If Google linked to that site instead of the original source first, would that be some lowering of standards, too?
"Sup g/f? U can txt all ur homies 2 tell dem wats da haps and wut u waring"
I find it funny that when somebody types like that, they're considered an idiot. But when a person can't read a message that simple, it's because they're too smart.
Slashdot Mirror
"I've not seen one of those in a long, long time."
Yeah but since a lot of users here switched to Linux long ago, they're not aware of this, so they still giggle giggle snort snort over the BSOD jokes. You'd think with all the fun we've been having with IE' security, some fresh material would come in.
So... am I gathering from this that *nix style permissions don't completely prevent malicious apps from running? I ask because I sure hear this argument a lot.
"Remind me to never piss you off."
Heh. As if he could actually reach your face with his cock.
"Which begs the question of what color to make game consoles. Black is 'old and busted', done to death."
That's not why they choose the colors. They do it to make sure it's distinct from both its predecssor AND the other machines. You'll see a lot of going back and forth over the generations. The 3rd XBOX will probably be black.
"Its too bad it has obnoxious ads"
Since when are Google text ads 'obnoxious'? Or are you thinking of Opera from like 3 years ago?
"Seriously, what were people doing a couple years ago? If your life is that in tuned to google, maybe its time to 'log off' (and pardon the cliche)."
So let me see if I understand your point: The problem isn't that Google is a good service with a well earned reputation, but rather that people are weird. Thanks for the 'insight'. You act like Google's rise through the ranks was an anomoly. Oops, I praised Google. Even though it's helped me do some good stuff, I better 'log off'!
"Perhaps what I thought in my head I didn't explain well in my post as to why I felt it was ironic."
Don't you hate it when people needlessly nitpick you until you're forced to write a long post explaining yourself?
Been there, man.
"The first thing this reminded me of was the book 1984, where people are worried that hidden microphones may pick up their anti Big Brother conversations."
Erm. I have some problems with that scenario:
1.) The more that is recorded, the more that has to be sifted through and turned useful. Even with decent voice recognition, this is a hell of a lot of work requiring a LOT of processing power (assuming it's even automatic), lots of bandwidth, and LOTs of mics all over the place to actually catch anybody.
2.) There would need to be a LOT of man power to actually follow up on the percieved threats. This wouldn't be so bad except it's very difficult to imagine there wouldn't be far too many false hits.
3.) Once aware of it, would anybody really be dumb enough to say the wrong thing near one of these mics?
Maybe one day Orwellian Big Brother will be feasible in some form, but I really do think it's a lot farther away than installing wireless mics all over the place. This is why I don't get these images in my mind when Slashdot posts stories like this. Oppressive governments have a history of not being easy to maintain. (not to mention that the benefactors of that sort of power aren't pre-disposed to living a long worry-free life.)
" I don't know why I would expect the editors to get dates correct, 'tis only Slashdot."
I don't know why Slashdot Editors are held to a standard they have never EVER reached. 'Tis a strange world you live in.
"Offtopic my ass."
Sorry, there wasn't a "Who gives a flying fuck?" option.
Greaaaaaaaat. FireFox advertises crashing the office. Is that REALLY the imagery to use to get PHBs to switch from IE?
Err low sleep day. I mean to say "disprove", not prove. Hope your weekend's goin better than mine. Heh.
"1) there is no such double standard. Just look at all the posts calling Jobs an asshole in the book banning story."
That doesn't prove there's a double standard. That's not even in the same ballpark.
"Thank god... one less Windows user out there now. I am sorry to inform you that they no longer make motherboards for Windows as you might as well install Linux or buy a Mac..."
Good for a chuckle, but Insightful? Did the guy who modded this comment really think a gamer would be happier with Linux or a Mac?
"You end up paying more for a bare-bones motherboard because of their rarity."
I doubt there's much price difference anyway. The reason why mobos have on board lan, for example, is they can add it really cheaply.
Frankly, I wouldn't want a mobo without the frills. Integrated Nic is nice. On-board sounds means there's a backup. On board video, provided you still have an AGP port, can also be used as a backup. When the machine's retired, it can easily be given to somebody else.
"> Forward 4 meters
......
> Turn left 7 degrees
> Fire"
Doom in Linux:
> forward 4 meters
> error
> frwrd 4 mtrs
> error
> man doom
> error
> @#$#@$#@
> error
> man Doom
"I know. I am a bit strange to think GUI is over-rated. And in very many cases, GUI does the best job. But CLI, text-based, is my preferred choice for a broad variety of applications. Text-based simply gets the job done quicker and more smoothly in many cases. Actually, unless I am working with something that actually requires graphics I prefer text-based.."
In your case, that's great. However, UI isn't just about quick efficient interfaces with the computer, it's also about making an interface that a new user can do something with. A text interface is the WORST interface to give somebody who's never used the system. If a GUI is designed well, you can tell a user what their goal is and they'll work it otu. With a text UI, the user will fly over to Google.
"Am I really the only one thinking: "screw the lighting and effects, I'm turning them off anyway" For me Quake is about gameplay not graphics."
If they have actual shadows in the game, no, I'm not turning them off. Quake isn't just about game play, it's about environment.
Truth be told, I'm baffled as to why everybody's making generalizations based on this story.
"I can't wait for Super Mario 54 turbo special edition, Quake 4 is just a stepping stone !"
That might have been funny if you picked on Sonic the Hedgehog instead.
In other words, compare the first 3 Mario games to the first 3 Quake games.
Uh, no it didn't. The battle scene in the end might have been worthwhile if:
a.) the audience wasn't confused about who the good guys and bad guys were.
b.) the design choices between the two sides weren't so similar that it was hard to tell who was fighting who.
c.) there was any real urgency or STORY behind the battle.
d.) the rest of the movie wasn't patently boring.
"Still, I don't see the real news here. Full-time employees do more than volunteers?"
Nope. The real news is that one of the bfd's about using Linux (or OSS in general) is that it isn't made by a big evil corporation. The revelation that a lot of what you like about Linux was made by a big corporation (those are typically evil) is shocking.
I dunno if I'd call it 'news' so much as a story intended to stir up a few jokers. On a side note: People shouldn't take the word 'news' in the tagline too seriously.
"corporate blogs are just another arm of their public relations department, everything needs to be positive, big whoop.
Even if negative stuff was allowed, I'm not sure why anybody would trust a corporate blog as the ONLY source of information. I'm not thinking about the common sense factor of it here, but rather the different ways people express themselves. For example: I create 3D artwork. That means I have specific uses for 3D cards. If I have an issue with my card, I'm FAR more likely to ask the question at a place like CGTalk.com than I am to post it on an NVidia blog. So if I were searching for whether or not a card would suit me, that's where I'd go first. I imagine lots of other people would have their own ways of expressing good or bad news about a product.
With that said, hopefully you all will understand why I'd file this story under BFD.
"Look, this may be useful information, but it's not even remotely newsworthy. It's a freakin' intro-level homework exercise."
Given that Slashdot frequently refers to buffer overruns, why is it such a sin that they link to a story that explains them in more detail? So it won't be on CNN, whoop-de-fuck.
"Way to go, Zonk...once again, you've lowered the standard."
Slashdot doesn't even report the stories. It just links to them. What 'standard' is even getting lowered? I hope you don't mean journalistic. If Google linked to that site instead of the original source first, would that be some lowering of standards, too?
"Sup g/f? U can txt all ur homies 2 tell dem wats da haps and wut u waring"
I find it funny that when somebody types like that, they're considered an idiot. But when a person can't read a message that simple, it's because they're too smart.