Why couldn't bittorrent be modified to use HTTP for the downstream, or operate on HTTP entirely? IANABTH, but that would certainly get around any port-throttling issues.
Shocked!!! Shocked I say!!! How can you make such slanderous, conspiracy-theory-laden accusations against such a generous, benevolent entity as MicroSoft? </sarcasm>
I barely managed to type that with my bladder intact.
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to you
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses (X) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected ( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money ( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks (X) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it (X) Users of email will not put up with it ( ) Microsoft will not put up with it ( ) The police will not put up with it (X) Requires too much cooperation from spammers (X) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once ( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers ( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists ( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it (X) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email (X) Open relays in foreign countries ( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses ( ) Asshats (X) Jurisdictional problems ( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes ( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money (X) Huge existing software investment in SMTP ( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack ( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email (X) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes (X) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches ( ) Extreme profitability of spam ( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft (X) Technically illiterate politicians ( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers ( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with Microsoft ( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with Yahoo ( ) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves ( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering ( ) Outlook
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
(X) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical ( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable ( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation ( ) Blacklists suck ( ) Whitelists suck ( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored ( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud (X) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks ( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually (X) Sending email should be free ( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers? ( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses ( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem ( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome (X) I don't want the government reading my email ( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work. (X) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid company for suggesting it. ( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
I'm not aware of anyone using that one. Exchange, perhaps, but. . .
On topic, I think this is horrible. What about internal-only email servers? Are those legal? Could that be enforced? Could you be prosecuted for being infected with a piece of SMTP-spewing malware?
Could set off a ripple effect in the tech job market in greater Chicagoland, if they close it or cut it enough. Let's hope for all our sakes they leave it alone. Frankly, I hope so for "Lucatel"'s sake, too. It's generally ill-advised to fire those staff members who actually bring in revenue.
/. has a worldwide readership, and so the Aprilfoolery has begun at the closest thing to a common time we have. If they'd reall ywanted to be anal, they could have started 12 hours ago, when the International Date line hit 4/1.
Ah, yes, but not only is old hardware fun, but it uses less energy in many cases. I can't justify working two months of overtime to buy a PC to replace one I can't use with WinXP, when I can wipe it, install Fedora Core 5 and get back to work. Plus, I can save 15 minutes a day since I won't have to reboot it every day to keep it working.:)
Yum doesn't resume downloads, but does keep files on hand and won't re-download the same version. As for dist-upgrade, if you want to updrade a fedora distro, download and upgrade the fedora-release package, then yum upgrade. Done. I don't like up2date any more than you do, but I love yum. Please RTFM next time.:)
Good point. What would be really nice would be to use something where the machine only sees the skull. Even harder to fake, but there's always the possibility for medical issues. Not only would a technology like repeated x-rays casue health issues, but using some sort of intrusive body scanning could be interpreted as a HIPAA violation, unless you pre-consented in some legally binding way.
Didn't we already know this? Was it a total mystery that having a patch of water over which hurricanes generate, say, the Gulf of Mexico, will serve to strengthen them? Was it a total mystery that climate change might bring about nasty consequences?
There's a tool I use on several platforms that allows me to group as many files as I like, of any type, into a single project. It's called a folder. I know it's not what you're looking for, but isn't it possible to do something like Select all, right click, Open, and have it open all the files in the associated apps? Some File Managers, including Windoze Explorer, will do this.
Simply because it's simple to write insecure code in PHP does not mean PHP is insecure. It's also terribly easy to write secure code in PHP. It's also easy to write insecure code in most other languages, PHP simply has a lower entry bar, akin to HTML, and so in addition to quality software you get . . . well . . . crap. But that's not the languages's fault. If you want contrasting examples of the potential for PHP security, check out PHP-Nuke (horrid) Drupal (far better). Drupal devs have actually been known to write code that patches over flaws in PHP itself, the few times they occur.
Chocolate eggs? Eew. Why put chocolate in your eggs? That's disgusting! ;)
Why couldn't bittorrent be modified to use HTTP for the downstream, or operate on HTTP entirely? IANABTH, but that would certainly get around any port-throttling issues.
Shocked!!! Shocked I say!!! How can you make such slanderous, conspiracy-theory-laden accusations against such a generous, benevolent entity as MicroSoft?
</sarcasm>
I barely managed to type that with my bladder intact.
Your company advocates a
( ) technical (X) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante
approach to fighting spam. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the following may apply to you
( ) Spammers can easily use it to harvest email addresses
(X) Mailing lists and other legitimate email uses would be affected
( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
( ) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
(X) It will stop spam for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
(X) Users of email will not put up with it
( ) Microsoft will not put up with it
( ) The police will not put up with it
(X) Requires too much cooperation from spammers
(X) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
( ) Many email users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
( ) Spammers don't care about invalid addresses in their lists
( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business
Specifically, your plan fails to account for
( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it
(X) Lack of centrally controlling authority for email
(X) Open relays in foreign countries
( ) Ease of searching tiny alphanumeric address space of all email addresses
( ) Asshats
(X) Jurisdictional problems
( ) Unpopularity of weird new taxes
( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
(X) Huge existing software investment in SMTP
( ) Susceptibility of protocols other than SMTP to attack
( ) Willingness of users to install OS patches received by email
(X) Armies of worm riddled broadband-connected Windows boxes
(X) Eternal arms race involved in all filtering approaches
( ) Extreme profitability of spam
( ) Joe jobs and/or identity theft
(X) Technically illiterate politicians
( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with spammers
( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with Microsoft
( ) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who do business with Yahoo
( ) Dishonesty on the part of spammers themselves
( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
( ) Outlook
and the following philosophical objections may also apply:
(X) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) SMTP headers should not be the subject of legislation
( ) Blacklists suck
( ) Whitelists suck
( ) We should be able to talk about Viagra without being censored
( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
(X) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
(X) Sending email should be free
( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
( ) Incompatiblity with open source or open source licenses
( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) Temporary/one-time email addresses are cumbersome
(X) I don't want the government reading my email
( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
(X) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid company for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your house down!
On topic, I think this is horrible. What about internal-only email servers? Are those legal? Could that be enforced? Could you be prosecuted for being infected with a piece of SMTP-spewing malware?
Could set off a ripple effect in the tech job market in greater Chicagoland, if they close it or cut it enough. Let's hope for all our sakes they leave it alone. Frankly, I hope so for "Lucatel"'s sake, too. It's generally ill-advised to fire those staff members who actually bring in revenue.
Not an easy target, but a good one to aim for.
After a day of pink, the green looks jarring.
Thanks. :)
Yeah, I can beat that. I'm at work, on a Saturday, on April Fool's day, and it's my damn birthday. :)
/. has a worldwide readership, and so the Aprilfoolery has begun at the closest thing to a common time we have. If they'd reall ywanted to be anal, they could have started 12 hours ago, when the International Date line hit 4/1.
But, where are the ponies? I want my ponies! I see no ponies!!!!!
They don't. They actually call it "bleeding edge", but point taken. :)
Ah, yes, but not only is old hardware fun, but it uses less energy in many cases. I can't justify working two months of overtime to buy a PC to replace one I can't use with WinXP, when I can wipe it, install Fedora Core 5 and get back to work. Plus, I can save 15 minutes a day since I won't have to reboot it every day to keep it working. :)
Yum doesn't resume downloads, but does keep files on hand and won't re-download the same version. As for dist-upgrade, if you want to updrade a fedora distro, download and upgrade the fedora-release package, then yum upgrade. Done. I don't like up2date any more than you do, but I love yum. Please RTFM next time. :)
Shit, all that, only to be unmasked by a /.er. Arghhhh! ;)
Good point. What would be really nice would be to use something where the machine only sees the skull. Even harder to fake, but there's always the possibility for medical issues. Not only would a technology like repeated x-rays casue health issues, but using some sort of intrusive body scanning could be interpreted as a HIPAA violation, unless you pre-consented in some legally binding way.
Impressive, but what if I shave?
Ok, well, for some people it was. :)
There's a tool I use on several platforms that allows me to group as many files as I like, of any type, into a single project. It's called a folder. I know it's not what you're looking for, but isn't it possible to do something like Select all, right click, Open, and have it open all the files in the associated apps? Some File Managers, including Windoze Explorer, will do this.
Please learn how to spell "bigoted". And, also, "pretemtious" is not a word. ;)
Used to work IT at an insurance company.
Simply because it's simple to write insecure code in PHP does not mean PHP is insecure. It's also terribly easy to write secure code in PHP. It's also easy to write insecure code in most other languages, PHP simply has a lower entry bar, akin to HTML, and so in addition to quality software you get . . . well . . . crap. But that's not the languages's fault. If you want contrasting examples of the potential for PHP security, check out PHP-Nuke (horrid) Drupal (far better). Drupal devs have actually been known to write code that patches over flaws in PHP itself, the few times they occur.
But the rantings of Dennis Prager are acceptible for their balance and reason? Bah.
Neither. Lots of small AM radio stations are Progressive/Liberal news/talk, like Air America. Can't imagine why Big Media would want them silenced.