If that's the known risk factor, then what are these people bitching about? Hmmmm.....prison in America or death. Either way, the choice was made, they took their chances and BOOM....the consequences. Is it right? No. However that IS our current state of affairs and most people worldwide know it; that's why they come here....to roll the dice.
Wow...typical lawyer speech. Defense of the Taliban during wartime would be considered treason; at least by military rules...which we're not dealing with here. It's civilian rules..which I guess by your standpoint they're innocent until proven guilty. I think you should be their lawyer.
Secretive has NOTHING to do with being right (especially in an investigation). If someone you arrested for child molestation didn't do it, would you (as an investigator) want to put your name on the report as being the accuser? You just destroyed someone's integrity as a human being just by being the accuser. Sucks, but true.
Probably the same time they stop looking like middle eastern gentlemen at a time when the country gets attacked by them. Right or wrong, looks (and appearence) play a great role in identifying suspects. If the attack were carried out by middle aged, caucasion males with pension plans linked to a Mexico bank account, I would EXPECT to be at least questioned.
It's ironic that you mention that. Back in my college days (business law, to be exact) the professor stated up front that you sue the people with the deep pockets; that's almost a direct quote. It's no wonder why we now have warning labels on cups of coffee and toaster ovens. Sheesh.
It's really sad that you can only equate the 80's to Hart and Madonna. A 10 year generalization is hard to swallow; even for the drug induced. Besides, at least for most of the latter part of the 60's, you HAD to be on drugs to even TRY to listen to the music. There was no creativeness or inventiveness; just high musicians playing for a high audience. "Wow....did you get that message, man? What a trip." No one will ever claim they found a hidden message in a song performed by INXS; even if they WERE on drugs.
From dictionary.com a democracy is defined as: 1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
2. A political or social unit that has such a government.
3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
4. Majority rule.
5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community. Any questions?
I think the jobs they were referring to might have been prison jobs. In my state, they get $.75 per hour; which I think is generous by the way. Why are we paying prisoners? OOPS...different topic. Anyway, if 2 million prison jobs are at stake, this is just FUD; if not, who cares? Is anyone besides the telemarketer's family going to care? Either way, I agree.
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse; in ANY country. If I (an American) go to China and key a few cars, the law of that country demands I get caned. I can't expect to get a slap on the wrist and a $20 fine just because I'm an American. The law(s) may be different but the concept is the same: if common sense dictates your actions are wrong, there's probably a law against it. How much risk would YOU be willing to take in a foreign country?
I don't think ANYONE in this forum would argue that programming isn't *HARD* but when your business IS based on programming OS's and you make billions performing this task, one could surmise that the end product should move increasingly towards 'zero defects'. Can we say that about MS? In the end, your operating costs should DECREASE; if you're doing it right. Staying on the cutting edge of the consumer's wallet should not take precedent over providing fixes for an overrated OS. Just MHO.
lol...The phrase: "Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it..." (not the actual quote I'm sure) just sprang to mind after reading your response. Preventable and hindsight SHOULD walk hand-in-hand but often don't; not in the context of technology, progress or even human nature. COULD this have been prevented? Probably; but it was not perceived as a life threatening issue after decades of launches. It is now. My point being that even after hundreds of launches, we just learned something new: the launch itself can be detrimental after successfully orbiting the planet. All in all, I don't disagree but I still stick to my original statement. This is still just an ongoing project in which we learn something new from each and every launch.
I agree, but the investigation STARTS with you and revolves around your social circle to obtain potential suspects; it's called investigating. What would you have happen in a murder investigation....the police to NOT question the owner of the handgun?
Not if it's copyrighted. You STILL miss the big picture...the medium to which the information is transmitted is not in question...the information itself is. I never made a claim that Kazaa was responsible; I merely mentioned it as an information transfer mechanism. If I obtain copyrighted data (like buying a book), this proposal states that if I make it publicly accessible to ANYONE; I'm a felon. A felon or distributing information? C'mon, be real. You're right about one thing, though; I'M the idiot. I was foolish enough to believe that there are people out there who could make the distinction. Maybe that's why we have all the problems we have now is because people can't. What a shame. Idiot.
Sure.....once again the problems are blamed on Bush. Sheesh, why not indict him for the Kennedy assasination as well? I'm sure there's a link there somwhere.
I don't disagree with you, however we need to keep in mind that projects like the space shuttle (although outdated) are still just that: projects. They represent an on-going 'test station' for data and information which never really end. I, personally, would take that chance just to have the opportunity to be in space but I don't think they'd take me because of my current health status; too bad....I'd make an excellent guinea pig. Either way, people die in projects like these and the people who endeavor to reach these goals know the risks.
...the governing body of justice? Besides the fact they have lawyers out the wazoo, they can't change the law. OOPS; my bad, yes they can. God have mercy on us all.
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If that's the known risk factor, then what are these people bitching about? Hmmmm.....prison in America or death. Either way, the choice was made, they took their chances and BOOM....the consequences. Is it right? No. However that IS our current state of affairs and most people worldwide know it; that's why they come here....to roll the dice.
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Like you're making of this poster's verbiage?
Wow...typical lawyer speech. Defense of the Taliban during wartime would be considered treason; at least by military rules...which we're not dealing with here. It's civilian rules..which I guess by your standpoint they're innocent until proven guilty. I think you should be their lawyer.
Secretive has NOTHING to do with being right (especially in an investigation). If someone you arrested for child molestation didn't do it, would you (as an investigator) want to put your name on the report as being the accuser? You just destroyed someone's integrity as a human being just by being the accuser. Sucks, but true.
Wow......I guess his newly formed beard was NOT an expression of his religion. Interesting. Nice post
Probably the same time they stop looking like middle eastern gentlemen at a time when the country gets attacked by them. Right or wrong, looks (and appearence) play a great role in identifying suspects. If the attack were carried out by middle aged, caucasion males with pension plans linked to a Mexico bank account, I would EXPECT to be at least questioned.
It's ironic that you mention that. Back in my college days (business law, to be exact) the professor stated up front that you sue the people with the deep pockets; that's almost a direct quote. It's no wonder why we now have warning labels on cups of coffee and toaster ovens. Sheesh.
It's really sad that you can only equate the 80's to Hart and Madonna. A 10 year generalization is hard to swallow; even for the drug induced. Besides, at least for most of the latter part of the 60's, you HAD to be on drugs to even TRY to listen to the music. There was no creativeness or inventiveness; just high musicians playing for a high audience. "Wow....did you get that message, man? What a trip." No one will ever claim they found a hidden message in a song performed by INXS; even if they WERE on drugs.
Right....and the mob is in Washington wearing $800.00 suits while increasing our taxes and voting themselves a raise.
From dictionary.com a democracy is defined as: 1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives. 2. A political or social unit that has such a government. 3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power. 4. Majority rule. 5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community. Any questions?
think those people ARE the telemarketers; no need to train them!
I think the jobs they were referring to might have been prison jobs. In my state, they get $.75 per hour; which I think is generous by the way. Why are we paying prisoners? OOPS...different topic. Anyway, if 2 million prison jobs are at stake, this is just FUD; if not, who cares? Is anyone besides the telemarketer's family going to care? Either way, I agree.
I don't get your point; are you suggesting that just because someone is foreign to a specified region they are exempt from the law(s) of that region?
It was a theoretical......sheesh. So what IS the penalty in China?
Ignorance of the law is not an excuse; in ANY country. If I (an American) go to China and key a few cars, the law of that country demands I get caned. I can't expect to get a slap on the wrist and a $20 fine just because I'm an American. The law(s) may be different but the concept is the same: if common sense dictates your actions are wrong, there's probably a law against it. How much risk would YOU be willing to take in a foreign country?
I don't think ANYONE in this forum would argue that programming isn't *HARD* but when your business IS based on programming OS's and you make billions performing this task, one could surmise that the end product should move increasingly towards 'zero defects'. Can we say that about MS? In the end, your operating costs should DECREASE; if you're doing it right. Staying on the cutting edge of the consumer's wallet should not take precedent over providing fixes for an overrated OS. Just MHO.
lol...The phrase: "Those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it..." (not the actual quote I'm sure) just sprang to mind after reading your response. Preventable and hindsight SHOULD walk hand-in-hand but often don't; not in the context of technology, progress or even human nature. COULD this have been prevented? Probably; but it was not perceived as a life threatening issue after decades of launches. It is now. My point being that even after hundreds of launches, we just learned something new: the launch itself can be detrimental after successfully orbiting the planet. All in all, I don't disagree but I still stick to my original statement. This is still just an ongoing project in which we learn something new from each and every launch.
I agree, but the investigation STARTS with you and revolves around your social circle to obtain potential suspects; it's called investigating. What would you have happen in a murder investigation....the police to NOT question the owner of the handgun?
Not if it's copyrighted. You STILL miss the big picture...the medium to which the information is transmitted is not in question...the information itself is. I never made a claim that Kazaa was responsible; I merely mentioned it as an information transfer mechanism. If I obtain copyrighted data (like buying a book), this proposal states that if I make it publicly accessible to ANYONE; I'm a felon. A felon or distributing information? C'mon, be real. You're right about one thing, though; I'M the idiot. I was foolish enough to believe that there are people out there who could make the distinction. Maybe that's why we have all the problems we have now is because people can't. What a shame. Idiot.
Sure.....once again the problems are blamed on Bush. Sheesh, why not indict him for the Kennedy assasination as well? I'm sure there's a link there somwhere.
I don't disagree with you, however we need to keep in mind that projects like the space shuttle (although outdated) are still just that: projects. They represent an on-going 'test station' for data and information which never really end. I, personally, would take that chance just to have the opportunity to be in space but I don't think they'd take me because of my current health status; too bad....I'd make an excellent guinea pig. Either way, people die in projects like these and the people who endeavor to reach these goals know the risks.
But....did it reach those speeds in a matter of seconds? Probably not.
...the governing body of justice? Besides the fact they have lawyers out the wazoo, they can't change the law. OOPS; my bad, yes they can. God have mercy on us all.
So, would be distributing the cure to cancer over Kazzaa be a felonious offense? Copyright or not....I still would like to have the information. prick