If the apps and support and chicks don't matter, then all that's left is the architecture and plain ol' curiosity. For me, it's the overall experience. It's highly polished, but I can easily drop into a Unix CLI environment. Runs good on my 6-yr old hardware, too, and just keeps getting faster even as Apple adds features. I got no reason to complain.
2. A new G4 desktop system in Spring of 2005? No chance. Apple is moving away from the Motorola G4 archetecture, in favor of the IBM G5. The eMac and the current laptops will probably be the end of the line for the G4.
3. The current G4 eMac is $800, and their margin on it is thin (by Apple standards.) This rumored system is pretty much a G4 with the $100 monitor removed. No way Apple sells it for $500.
Personally, I think that we'll soon see the return of clones. Who knows, maybe this will be marketed like the iPod+HP. Apples design, some elses label.
4. Everybody who says they would never buy one of the current Macs, but would buy this one for $500 out of impulse, is a damn liar. You can already buy a headless G4 Mac for under $600. Just go to eBay and buy an old G4 tower from about two years ago. Hell, for that matter, you can buy an old G3 tower which will run OS X just fine for about $300. Add a $100 CPU upgrade, and there's your G4 right there.
Why would I buy a used, 2-yr-old PowerMac when I could buy a new, warrantied headless iMac? What this will do is drive down the prices of used machines. Which I personally love the thought of.
Ok, since no one seems willing to ask what you gain, but rather state that you can run Linux if you want, I'll take a shot:
iLife Suite - free Office V.X - costs, but if you need it... Photoshop - see above Games - ok, not nearly as many as a WinPC, but there are a lot of good ones, like WoW Telephone support Hot chicks
Ok, maybe the last one there is wishful, but there are many benefits to running OS X over GNU/Linux. Most of them have to do with mainstream apps, however. There are some Unix apps that Apple has developed specifically for PPC *nix as well, like 'ditto', which acts like 'cp' but retains resource fork info.
Anyways, if you don't need any proprietary apps, then maybe nothing can be gained. Go somewhere that'll let you play around with one, and see for yourself.
Quit your crying, for Gods sake. It's a legitimate piece of software that can be used for an illegitimate purpose. Kinda like any music app that can rip and burn. Or p2p software that can facilitate the illegal transfer of data. Hell, with a bit of effort I could probably get sendmail to do what this does. It ain't the software that's the problem. It's people. If you want to bitch about the needless waste of resources, then why don't you devote some energy to getting rid of all the physical junk mail that gets passed around each and every day. That is a drain.
You, and a great many others, say you are paying for the content but not the commercials. Seems to me that part of the content that you're paying for is the commercials. You know this when you sign up. If you don't like it, then uplug and go with what's floating on the airwaves in your locale. One solution would be to have an a la carte menu of cable channels, each with their own price, and the consumer would get to purchase exactly what he or she wants. Another might be to charge for actual usage.
I predict it will turn into manufacturer-supported expo "stores". The primary purpose being that you can come and check out the product, with no pressure to buy, or maybe even no option to buy.
Didn't Gateway try this? They had stores where you could check out an computer, and order it, but couldn't walk away with it same-day. I seem to recall they had a bit of difficulty making this business model work. This was before they entered the electronics retail market in general, and were still computer-only.
The new iMac ain't the old; many of the components can be replaced by the user. Unfortunately, the same can't be said of the eMac.
And for what it's worth, one of the reasons we got an iMac in the first place (the original style, lime-colored, been with us for 5 years) was because my wife wanted a computer that I couldn't take apart and mess with:-)
Gonna get a new iMac real soon. They're worth every penny, IMHO.
Difference here is that with a rental agreement, you sign something. What the parent post is saying is that they never saw the agreement, never clicked 'I agree to the terms', never had the option to click 'I do not agree to the terms', and never signed their name to an agreement.
And how many car stereos pick up those even-numbered stations? I've seen one in the last ~10 years. I think I have an old analogue radio around here somewhere, complete with 8-track that would work, however.
With this device, I don't have to download software I don't want to be able to listen to my favorite public radio show when I miss it. I spend a lot of time on the road. Radio shows that I like are not always available where I am. I'll be looking at this a bit more closely.
Doesn't Lucas realize that Empire Strikes Back...was the best of the Star Wars movies?
Gotta disagree, and say that Star Wars was the best. Empire was good, but Star Wars stood by itself. Involving, action-packed, love-interest that wasn't predominant or over-bearing, and most importantly, a solid ending. Empire needed a sequel, 'cause of the questions it left (Han, Darth/Luke etc.)
Alright, I'm narrow minded. No doubt eh. I'm so left I'm a fascist as well.
And I'm one of those scary green preservationists the GOP warned you about.:-) I'm also a glutton for punishment, since I really should be on the road to the Okanogans, but here I am instead...
But let's not spend too much time talking about lil ol' me.
No, let's not. Not that you're not relevant, but that you're not the issue. (Hope that isn't insulting, it's not meant to be.)
All land contracts in the US orginated with the US government at one time or another.
And here seems to be where the confusion/misunderstanding arises. I'm not necessarily talking about the US. I'm talking about the best place to build a tower/cable that stretches into space. It was mentioned that with such a structure that its' neighbors rights/opinions would matter quite a lot. Agreed. Which to me seems to all the more reason to build in some remote area, such as a floating platform, or island. Seems security would be easier under such conditions as well. Make all approaches (air, water, land) off-limits to all but authorized vehicles. The sole purpose of the island/floating platform is for this tower/cable structure. The only residents are those who work there, and perhaps a few supporting businesses (such as a bar:-). Security would be paramount. It would have to be. Anyways, interesting discussion, and I appreciate your input on US ownership laws.
of all you're responding to a guy who is either a troll or a total idiot.
Sorry, neither. But you're entitled to your opinion.
Second, when you buy property you don't own the sky above it beyond a hundred feet and that's being very generous. I own a lot of vacant land and I can't put anything over thirty feet on it. It's owned, paid for. It's all mine. But there are still limits.
According to who's laws? Remember that US spy plane that got shot down over the USSR in the '60s? I'm pretty sure it was flying more than a 100 feet above ground. And what about a couple o' years ago, when there were all those attempts to traverse the world in a balloon. That millionaire couldn't fly over Libya(?), anyways, some nation in Africa, and I believe that China also had issues with him, and again I'm pretty sure he was more than 100 feet above ground. (Sorry, but I ain't gonna do the Googles' to find the info; I need to get outa here, and just want to respond before I go). Do you consider Brazil to be a banana republic? Papa-New Guinea? Indonesia? While not necessarily 'safe', they ain't 'banana republics'. Sorry, man, but your narrow-minded world-view is showing.
Of course it needs government support; you can't just put up an X-mile high tower without worrying about security, shared land use, population relocation, etc. These are all things that government does. Without some government muscle, a private space elevator company would be sunk.
Not necessarily. Build it on a privately-owned island or some such. No regulations, no permits required, etc. I'd imagine that something like this would best be built along the equator anyways, for technical reasons. I don't know for certain, but I'd imagine that the tilt of the earth could cause problems. Maybe a floating platform, or in an equatorial country that would provide uber-security in exchange for the obvious economic benefits.
Yeah, but these are a relatively new thing. And frankly, I hate 'em. I have a VCR that uses a jog dial for changing the channel; love it, far prefer it. I bought an Alpine car stereo specifically for the volume dial; I hate the delay that buttons tend to exhibit. I want instant response which is also related to the speed of rotation. I have yet to see a button system that responds differently depending on how hard you push, although I imagine that they exist.
(Yeah, I know it's been a while since this was written; I've been in the field.) No, I'm not anti-CGI. Loved Tron, for instance. Looking forward to Sky Captain. Unfortunately, Lucas seems to be of the mind that a story is irrelevant so long as there is lots o' eye candy.
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If the apps and support and chicks don't matter, then all that's left is the architecture and plain ol' curiosity.
For me, it's the overall experience. It's highly polished, but I can easily drop into a Unix CLI environment. Runs good on my 6-yr old hardware, too, and just keeps getting faster even as Apple adds features. I got no reason to complain.
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Apple has also quite visibly entered into businesses that it claimed it wouldn't.
Personally, I think that we'll soon see the return of clones. Who knows, maybe this will be marketed like the iPod+HP. Apples design, some elses label.
Why would I buy a used, 2-yr-old PowerMac when I could buy a new, warrantied headless iMac? What this will do is drive down the prices of used machines. Which I personally love the thought of.
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Ok, since no one seems willing to ask what you gain, but rather state that you can run Linux if you want, I'll take a shot:
iLife Suite - free
Office V.X - costs, but if you need it...
Photoshop - see above
Games - ok, not nearly as many as a WinPC, but there are a lot of good ones, like WoW
Telephone support
Hot chicks
Ok, maybe the last one there is wishful, but there are many benefits to running OS X over GNU/Linux. Most of them have to do with mainstream apps, however. There are some Unix apps that Apple has developed specifically for PPC *nix as well, like 'ditto', which acts like 'cp' but retains resource fork info.
Anyways, if you don't need any proprietary apps, then maybe nothing can be gained. Go somewhere that'll let you play around with one, and see for yourself.
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Quit your crying, for Gods sake. It's a legitimate piece of software that can be used for an illegitimate purpose. Kinda like any music app that can rip and burn. Or p2p software that can facilitate the illegal transfer of data. Hell, with a bit of effort I could probably get sendmail to do what this does. It ain't the software that's the problem. It's people.
If you want to bitch about the needless waste of resources, then why don't you devote some energy to getting rid of all the physical junk mail that gets passed around each and every day. That is a drain.
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Did you RTFA? It is specifically metioned that Apple will be using these chips.
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Updated my Wallstreet 300 (320MB RAM) and it's definately more responsive.
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I use a 6-yr old G3 PowerBook daily. Runs 10.3.6. Not the quickest, but works fine for writing code and browsing. Same goes for the 5-yr old iMac.
The $499-after-rebate Dell desktop runs a 2.8 GHz P4. Fast, but by no means the 'latest technology'.
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You, and a great many others, say you are paying for the content but not the commercials. Seems to me that part of the content that you're paying for is the commercials. You know this when you sign up. If you don't like it, then uplug and go with what's floating on the airwaves in your locale.
One solution would be to have an a la carte menu of cable channels, each with their own price, and the consumer would get to purchase exactly what he or she wants. Another might be to charge for actual usage.
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Didn't Gateway try this? They had stores where you could check out an computer, and order it, but couldn't walk away with it same-day. I seem to recall they had a bit of difficulty making this business model work. This was before they entered the electronics retail market in general, and were still computer-only.
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The new iMac ain't the old; many of the components can be replaced by the user.
:-)
Unfortunately, the same can't be said of the eMac.
And for what it's worth, one of the reasons we got an iMac in the first place (the original style, lime-colored, been with us for 5 years) was because my wife wanted a computer that I couldn't take apart and mess with
Gonna get a new iMac real soon. They're worth every penny, IMHO.
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To confine a cat to the inside is to deny a cat its' true nature.
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Difference here is that with a rental agreement, you sign something. What the parent post is saying is that they never saw the agreement, never clicked 'I agree to the terms', never had the option to click 'I do not agree to the terms', and never signed their name to an agreement.
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Yeah, it means I gotta fuck up at least 3 (three) times before someone will issue a written report about it.
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And how many car stereos pick up those even-numbered stations? I've seen one in the last ~10 years.
I think I have an old analogue radio around here somewhere, complete with 8-track that would work, however.
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With this device, I don't have to download software I don't want to be able to listen to my favorite public radio show when I miss it.
I spend a lot of time on the road. Radio shows that I like are not always available where I am. I'll be looking at this a bit more closely.
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Gotta disagree, and say that Star Wars was the best. Empire was good, but Star Wars stood by itself. Involving, action-packed, love-interest that wasn't predominant or over-bearing, and most importantly, a solid ending. Empire needed a sequel, 'cause of the questions it left (Han, Darth/Luke etc.)
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USA Today story from Sept. 3
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And I'm one of those scary green preservationists the GOP warned you about.
No, let's not. Not that you're not relevant, but that you're not the issue. (Hope that isn't insulting, it's not meant to be.)
And here seems to be where the confusion/misunderstanding arises. I'm not necessarily talking about the US. I'm talking about the best place to build a tower/cable that stretches into space. It was mentioned that with such a structure that its' neighbors rights/opinions would matter quite a lot. Agreed. Which to me seems to all the more reason to build in some remote area, such as a floating platform, or island. Seems security would be easier under such conditions as well. Make all approaches (air, water, land) off-limits to all but authorized vehicles. The sole purpose of the island/floating platform is for this tower/cable structure. The only residents are those who work there, and perhaps a few supporting businesses (such as a bar
Anyways, interesting discussion, and I appreciate your input on US ownership laws.
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Sorry, neither. But you're entitled to your opinion.
According to who's laws? Remember that US spy plane that got shot down over the USSR in the '60s? I'm pretty sure it was flying more than a 100 feet above ground.
And what about a couple o' years ago, when there were all those attempts to traverse the world in a balloon. That millionaire couldn't fly over Libya(?), anyways, some nation in Africa, and I believe that China also had issues with him, and again I'm pretty sure he was more than 100 feet above ground. (Sorry, but I ain't gonna do the Googles' to find the info; I need to get outa here, and just want to respond before I go).
Do you consider Brazil to be a banana republic? Papa-New Guinea? Indonesia? While not necessarily 'safe', they ain't 'banana republics'.
Sorry, man, but your narrow-minded world-view is showing.
I gotta go.
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Not necessarily. Build it on a privately-owned island or some such. No regulations, no permits required, etc. I'd imagine that something like this would best be built along the equator anyways, for technical reasons. I don't know for certain, but I'd imagine that the tilt of the earth could cause problems. Maybe a floating platform, or in an equatorial country that would provide uber-security in exchange for the obvious economic benefits.
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Yeah, but these are a relatively new thing. And frankly, I hate 'em. I have a VCR that uses a jog dial for changing the channel; love it, far prefer it. I bought an Alpine car stereo specifically for the volume dial; I hate the delay that buttons tend to exhibit. I want instant response which is also related to the speed of rotation. I have yet to see a button system that responds differently depending on how hard you push, although I imagine that they exist.
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Nah, lets not.
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Ah, yes...
Got the spelling correct. Now lets work on context.
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(Yeah, I know it's been a while since this was written; I've been in the field.)
No, I'm not anti-CGI. Loved Tron, for instance. Looking forward to Sky Captain. Unfortunately, Lucas seems to be of the mind that a story is irrelevant so long as there is lots o' eye candy.
You may be of a different mind.
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