Sorry if you understand me wrong. No trolling on my account.
But I wonder what makes you think like that. For example: If Photoshop would be slow as hell, and would crash on random operations, sometimes even in standstill (I suffered that kind of crashes with kylix if I left debugging mode too long, for about 2 hours), who in the right mind would buy it and say that Photoshop is a good tool. Take to your consideration that Adobe at least fixes bugs up to some point, Kylix fixes were mostly just to enable installation on some platform, but I won't stick my hand in fire for that.
I can't afford my self to be restrictive about free software. I always buy products I use. Let's see got two G4s and Adobe Collections, but when Wine started with Photoshop to work I bought one version for PC too (that's just for example), now in testing mode to see if I could finally get rid of Mac platform (yes, I do hate apple, and sometimes joke (or troll as some think) about them).
My (own) company (not really a big one) has invested in software so far about 35000$. And I don't mind that, there's Windows and Apple software, Linux, well what's the best I can buy ranging based on my platform likes and dislikes, but I can't help if some markets doesn't support my favorite platform, but there's mostly server solutions and Maya along with supporting few other products which I don't use but I find them interesting, example WineX (I don't play games). Supporting those is such small ammount in money that I don't mind spending 100$ every month (I can afford it with a clear mind without even thinking) for free software, which could probably bring my favorite platform to more popularity.
And as for Kylix. Since I'm long time borland customer, from times of Turbo Pascal 4, bought all Versions up to Delphi 6. 7 I won't buy because.NET I really don't need. And 7 is just a.NET upgrade. I even got Kylix for free with Delphi Professional during action. But believe me, trying was a real suffer because product doesn't work, deleting was just like a good sex.
Delphi I need to maintain my accounting app, that goes way back to the times when programming was the only source of income of my company. But with Kylix I really hoped I could move of Windows and open champagne. To be honest, after I swaped Btrieve for mysql I at least managed to run application under Wine, and that's at least a small step for me (but as you probably get it I still hope for native app). Now my coding goes mainly to server level and GUI there is just a feature and not must.
Kylix was written for Qt Yes, for Qt, but trough Wine mockup VCL interfaces, which are real example how bugs work
266MHz or 2.66GHz Actualy last machine was 2.4GHz, 1GB RAM, RAID0
Kylix did was it was said to do Ok, you're right about components, but obviously either you haven't tested Kylix, or you haven't noticed that 95% people on this topic bitches how bad it was. So I would say it does not do what they said it does. Borland promoted Kylix as the best tool.
Qt is not some obscure gui. Get your facts straight. I also recommend learning how to count. Qt is really not obscure GUI, VCL around Qt trough Wine wrappers is. Thanks for such nice way to discuss counting mistakes.
So, this beta product lacks components, a forms designer, and I'm assuming a reporting engine? It's a beta, so it can't be assumed to be stable, I bet it's as crashy as Kylix ever was. Yep, read one of my other comments if you want there is a realistic Lazarus position. Hard truth for some people but then again real. And no, I don't suffer any crashes in this betas, at least as it takes GUI. Debugger interface is a little buggy, but no way it could come close to Kylix. Kylix was crashing during debugging even when there were no errors. And if kylix crashed you had to logout, if you didn't wan't to suffer consequences, but lazarus at most needs simple kill.
You've chucked out all compatibility with Delphi compenents, even though there was some likeness in Kylix... Something just isn't making rational sense here.
I'm not really a big fan of Kylix, or PASCAL in general, but this ranting about how Kylix sucks because it isn't Delphi really chafes me. You'd figure that if Borland wanted a version of Delphi for Linux, they'd brand it... Delphi! Once again, Kylix is not Delphi, and was never advertised as such. What was advertised was the Delphi language, the same RAD experience, and a familiarity between libraries.
It shows what you said, you never were a fan of Borland, but I was. Until Kylix disgrace. By the way, I used Delphi as decent product that works, not comparing one to another. If you haven't noticed, most of my work are Linux cli deamons, and Delphi would really be inappropriate tool for them. So I could care less if Kylix isn't Delphi, but if it isn't working, hell THEN IT'S BROKEN
I think that the biggest problem with Kylix was that it only installed properly for one particular version of one particular distribution. They didn't quite know how to base everything off of standard runtime variables (as far as where the runtime libraries and crap are residing), so usage of Kylix in distros like Suse, Mandrake, or Gentoo was crashy at best Ok, I use Redhat. Guess what now there's a Rock Linux too, maybe Kylix was made for Rock Linux. Because it wasn't working on Mandrake, Suse, Gentoo and Redhat.
It's quite obvious that you haven't tryed Kylix.
Maybe you should get your things right 1.If company makes a developmet tool, then "They didn't quite know how to base everything off of standard runtime variables (as far as where the runtime libraries and crap are residing)" is not a good excuse to put out some product which isn't working, and correct me if I'm wrong but to know that is what makes decent development tool 2.If product is poor and you're overpricing it, you can't expect that it will sell 3.Such crash production as Kylix (any_version) was shouldn't be diplayed even as pre-pre-prerelease beta 4.(That on is for you)Before you bitch about someone bitcin' at least try the thing
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For my use, it's the right tool. I code mostly cli deamons.
Sadly, I must admit I'm one of the few people whose usage is specific in that way that Lazarus is a very good and sufficient tool Here are the reasons why Lazarus does not belong in Delphi league 1. It's GTK1, so... no international fonts support, but as I see GTK2 is progressing very well 2. Some fancy features are yet to come in freepascal, but again progressing nicely 3. debugger is weird, it doubles watches, and watches crash IDE a lot, but still a lot better with every new version 4. no integrated help, and I don't need it 5. No database components, at least not finished, then again progressing very nicely 6. No reporting components
Ask that question in few months again, probably response would be a lot different, at least based on reading mailing list archives. Bug fixing and efforts put in Lazarus are enourmous, probably one of the best record of bug fixing ever. Sometimes not even 15 minutes, but almost every bug is fixed in a lot-less-than-daily matter in cvs. Kudos to the Lazarus team, and I really wish them well on replacing Kylix and Delphi as alternative
1. Take a look at blender, one for all 2. ~user (I mean users home) 3. Yes every distro has different button, I agree 4. They all support apt rpm and deb 5. Just yesterday I got fedora, funny thing it's already on all my 3 personal PCs, from 2-5AM (yes all my software and preferences along with mails address books, themes, my likes and dislikes, gimp1.3, scribus, sodipodi etc) and still have the same amount of money, now you do that in 3 hours, that time includes cd burning too, by the way all of the work was done on one machine, network install 6. WINE. Why would I need WIne, to run Outlook maybe? Yeah right on the day I burn in hell 7. Well NVidia, tvout, sblive and everything along with my wacom is working perfectly, compaq evo800v is working perfectly, one is older PC for testing purposes of new distro as a server (I still plan to deploy RH( as server for quite some time, upgrade to fedora is just too simple) 8. While Evolution looks better than any Outlook, and sound juicer is just too lovable to compare to any other ripping app. Mplayer is still far, far the best movie player ever, etc. I guess you get the point 9. I would never convince anybody to use Suse, hell even I don't like it. RH was the choice, but with fedora it has gone to way better distro (difference between speed and responsiveness under RH9 and fedora is uncomparable). 10. In Linux, there is a well based free quality, if product isn't good enough just like Kylix, that product just drops out of race being rolled over by free alternative
Sadly, I believe in Lamborghini, but as much a I would like to buy one, I haven't got enough money to spend, maybe if I cut my lunch for a month, well then... maybe:)
Yes, unfortunately. I buyed one in the same package as Delphi. While Delphi rocks, Kylix sucks (Kylix is a product finished in some obscure way that would fit in Hitchikers Guide perfectly, it would make a great 6th book).
But probably you're just a troll that doesn't know what does he talks about so I wonder if it was worth to answer.
1. It was both early and late No, to put it simple, kylix sucked major
2. There is a considerable dislike towards borland in the professional development community Just as you said it, that statement is valid for your environment, mine, well completely different opinion
As one of ex-delphi developers I can say that. And here are the reasons (Yes, I was very eager to try every version of kylix, but every version lasted exactly for one or two days until it was deleted out of complete outrage)
Reasons 1. I've never developed in such unstable environment as kylix was, crashing all over the place in such manner that even my room was a mess. Reason for this is probably mostly IDE itself which is writen in some obscure way with using wine as main element for maintaining compatibility 2. Components were very lacking, there was almost no compatibility between delphi and kylix (except simple forms), let's say DBGrid, while in delphi just worked while on the other hand Kylix always wanted to have tables opened in some special way, but Kylix didn't provide that (at least in help and maybe I wasn't testing it enough, but fact is, Delphi just worked, Kylix didn't) 3. Kylix was slow as hell, delphi fast 4. They didn't provide not even a simple Reporting component, where the hell is printing, delphi on the other hand has TQuickReport 5. I wrote a few questions on Borland and hoped that I will at least get answer about plans, (fact is that I don't like Qt) and didn't get answer on any of my question exceeeept that this person is not available and it will answer me when it returns, I guess he's still on that bussines trip, by the way I was a constant Borland customer, having valid C++ Builder and all Delphi versions. It's sad if they treated me like that, I just wonder how they treated non-buying customers 5. Basis of my linux software is not some obscure gui, but mostly cli deamons. Kylix was suitable for that job just like someone said that Windows98 command prompt equals bash 6. There's far better product for writing in pascal, not finished though, but I find my self enjoy working with it. Freepascal and Lazarus. GUI mode is still lacking, components are lacking, but both projects show far better perspective than kylix ever has (and fast as hell). As for me, it rocks, because all the lacking parts are not a need, they would eventualy maybe become a feature.
Overall, if they want to ever sell in this market they have to continue keeping the barrier to entusiasts low or near zero and continue trying to sell If they wanted to sell, then they shouldn't sell bullshit, selling bullshit never pays, except maybe for M$
Actually if you'd read you'd know that redhat-pacakges now supports apt and yum too. Along with external repositories
so, no success on that one. But as previous poster wanted to upgrade system, I doubt he'd succed to upgrade from rh to gentoo. rh to fedora went flawless for me.
1. Redhat has given great gift to the community, but ass-for-brains like you wouldn't notice that, just because you react without actually reading what project is 2. Redhat still has Redhat Enteprise WS, which is really great desktop, and as it looks it's getting on a professional corporate level, which is very very nice 3. RH9 was friendly enough
Yeah, right Suse (by the way Suse is the only one I plan to try in future, at least now that Novell had aquired it along with Ximian, that might really be interesting) and Lycoris being desktop friendly, I'm a gnome use for god sake. Install gnome manually, yeah, right, like I care.
Mandrake, as long as distro doesn't work as polished as Redhat or as MDK8 was, no way.
Ark & JAMD, yeah right what will I be? user #3???
Gentoo, you're right, it takes ages to install yes, and some of us lives depend on computers so we don't have ages.
This is a distribution for the release early, release often crowd. The primary release (which this is) should be treated as being a reasonable base to build on.
Actually it's very, very stable. test2 release on my notebook works like a charm, not even a single bug slowed me down, and I'm really looking forward on upgrade.
By the way when installing I was upgrading over RH9, that job went flawless for the first time now, not a simple bug
Fedora Core is the best Redhat so far, I'm using it flawlesly on my notebook since beta2.
Being in bussiness of which important part is Linux on desktop, I'm really happy with this decision. While normal distro is cool for normal user, it's not so good for corporate user. Reasons: 1. Don't need 5 programs fo each need, I need one, and one that works. 2. Don't need such urge on being up2date with everything 3. I want terrily tested and really working stable distro 4. Give me a clean distro and I'm filling only the gaps that don't suit me or the gaps that are not covered
As home user: 1. I want to test software to decide which one is better 2. If let's say Gnome 2.6 would be today, today would be the day I would be installing it, some softwares I keep daily with cvs 3. I want everything 4. Read 3, I have everything
DIfferences between Fedora Core and Readhat WS Professional are the same as I stated with previous descriptions.
But as here Fedora Core is just a test bed for Redhat WS (difference is as follows, al features are tested in Fedora before they are implemented in WS, Fedora Core is accessible for users to interact but WS isn't, Fedora will support outside package repository, WS won't), everything goes as I want, I get one fresh and up2date and one stable for the price of one.
Why should you run this? Because people that were bitchin over Debian being more_free, well this Redhat is practically the same but with Redhat support, because developers are still working on Fedora, hell they test there things for WS, so I doubt that Redhat would stop working on Fedeora.
Killing their desktop? No, they just extended it to likes of more people
Neo is part of Matrix (he is software), crucial part that turns the wheel when matrix gets confused looking to other directions.
Exiting the Matrix would mean end of Neo, and as long as Neo is in story, there's just another level in matrix. Because no one said that real world is real. And the world after that, based on architects saying they anticipated such ocasions (I'm basing that on simple saying that people are happy just as long as they can revolt), and the only decisive moment for such occasion is when people need to feel that change occures, Neo is here just a safety loop in a matrix software and servers a throwing dust into eyes of the people to feel the change is occuring.
What probably follows next. Well I say: Matrix 4: Level 3. Even lamer sequel than 2.
One was great in fact perfect and had a great ending which would really satisfy my ego, I stopped watching 2 after 1 hour and exited the cinema, but when my friend said that there was talking with architect, I just had to see if I was correct what I was thinking (hail for divx, I wouldn't pay again for the matrix if someone was forcing me). Yep, I was. A really lame and predictable story. 3 I'm not interested. 4, gets lamer after being lame...etc
The lamest thing in matrix is Neo. As he was mostly beaten in 1, I must admit Keanu is getting beaten with very good acting. But when he actualy tries to fight in 2, for god sake, will next kung fu star be Danny De Vito or what? The best thing in the movie: Trinity good looking, nice legs and very elegant in fighting scenes. Actualy the only actor that seems to know how to fight in this movie. What can I say about Morpheous... well he's black (no offence, not in racistic way, that's the only thing that he does well, he fights... well still better than Neo but still like somebody stuck a broom in his ass, he has over bullshit act with moronic overpuffed voice and lame comments:)
Next time the Watchowski brothers try to make a kung fu movie, well they should hire actors that know what kung fu is.
Yeah, but SCO does not use them it redistributes them in their OS. God Damn. SCO is reselling their OS, and if that's not a distribution problem I don't know what it is
I wonder how GPL licensed products could even be possible for SCO to use.
Section 5 and 7 clearly prohibit use of GPL-licensed products if somebody does not agree with it. And SCO proclaiming "GPL is invalid" is doing just that thing, they don't agree with the license provided with the products. And even if SCO would get something from this stupidity, US couldn't proclaim GPL invalid worldwide, what would probably lead to GPL 3 which would restrict usage of GPL-ed products in US, just as security problems is now.
Second thing I wonder is when Samba in open spirit did nothing to prevent SCO from use. Why is there a need for free spirit in GPL when SCO clearly breaches two sections of GPL license, as in "You can use it if you agree". I think that it will be better if Samba and other GPL teams act and prohibit use of their products otherwise they are clear example how GPL license is something for the taste but not to eat as in "You can read it, but we don't care if you agree or not".
To conclude, sections 5 and 7 prohibit use of anybody who disagree with license, and as license would be invalid (and that's a big IF:) authors restrictions wouldn't be.
CD Burner was running on Toast probably 3DFX provided their own drivers IDE drive is IDE drive and that was the only component which you could insert it in and know it will work, although there was a time when HDT was needed to format those drives. I was using Macs (not as some DTP user, I was servicing them), and still am for about 7 years now, so you could say that I know a little about them
You missed the point, completely. What I was reffering was system base support for hardware, as in, you insert CDROM, and CDROM works without any interferance or drivers. And that support was clearly defined that in Panther now ATAPI drives work that way (by previous poster).
Yep, you got it right and not...uueee, but first you've got to get Mac with LG drive to test wheter it will fuck up this drive or not. But fortunate for you, you can't
Sorry t let you know, but there are some people on the world that don't like Photoshop interface, and I'm one of them. Xinerama over 3 highres 22" monitors, well Photoshop i just a lame excuse to use on that.
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Now everything goes smaller.
BUT... Where the f* is my pocket watch with 22" screen??? @#$@$@
I for one won't say that I use OSS software because it's better.
I use it because M$ software is worster
Sorry if you understand me wrong. No trolling on my account.
.NET I really don't need. And 7 is just a .NET upgrade. I even got Kylix for free with Delphi Professional during action. But believe me, trying was a real suffer because product doesn't work, deleting was just like a good sex.
But I wonder what makes you think like that. For example:
If Photoshop would be slow as hell, and would crash on random operations, sometimes even in standstill (I suffered that kind of crashes with kylix if I left debugging mode too long, for about 2 hours), who in the right mind would buy it and say that Photoshop is a good tool. Take to your consideration that Adobe at least fixes bugs up to some point, Kylix fixes were mostly just to enable installation on some platform, but I won't stick my hand in fire for that.
I can't afford my self to be restrictive about free software. I always buy products I use. Let's see got two G4s and Adobe Collections, but when Wine started with Photoshop to work I bought one version for PC too (that's just for example), now in testing mode to see if I could finally get rid of Mac platform (yes, I do hate apple, and sometimes joke (or troll as some think) about them).
My (own) company (not really a big one) has invested in software so far about 35000$. And I don't mind that, there's Windows and Apple software, Linux, well what's the best I can buy ranging based on my platform likes and dislikes, but I can't help if some markets doesn't support my favorite platform, but there's mostly server solutions and Maya along with supporting few other products which I don't use but I find them interesting, example WineX (I don't play games). Supporting those is such small ammount in money that I don't mind spending 100$ every month (I can afford it with a clear mind without even thinking) for free software, which could probably bring my favorite platform to more popularity.
And as for Kylix. Since I'm long time borland customer, from times of Turbo Pascal 4, bought all Versions up to Delphi 6. 7 I won't buy because
Delphi I need to maintain my accounting app, that goes way back to the times when programming was the only source of income of my company. But with Kylix I really hoped I could move of Windows and open champagne. To be honest, after I swaped Btrieve for mysql I at least managed to run application under Wine, and that's at least a small step for me (but as you probably get it I still hope for native app). Now my coding goes mainly to server level and GUI there is just a feature and not must.
Obviously you don't know a lot
Kylix was written for Qt
Yes, for Qt, but trough Wine mockup VCL interfaces, which are real example how bugs work
266MHz or 2.66GHz
Actualy last machine was 2.4GHz, 1GB RAM, RAID0
Kylix did was it was said to do
Ok, you're right about components, but obviously either you haven't tested Kylix, or you haven't noticed that 95% people on this topic bitches how bad it was. So I would say it does not do what they said it does. Borland promoted Kylix as the best tool.
Qt is not some obscure gui. Get your facts straight. I also recommend learning how to count.
Qt is really not obscure GUI, VCL around Qt trough Wine wrappers is. Thanks for such nice way to discuss counting mistakes.
So, this beta product lacks components, a forms designer, and I'm assuming a reporting engine? It's a beta, so it can't be assumed to be stable, I bet it's as crashy as Kylix ever was.
Yep, read one of my other comments if you want there is a realistic Lazarus position. Hard truth for some people but then again real.
And no, I don't suffer any crashes in this betas, at least as it takes GUI. Debugger interface is a little buggy, but no way it could come close to Kylix. Kylix was crashing during debugging even when there were no errors. And if kylix crashed you had to logout, if you didn't wan't to suffer consequences, but lazarus at most needs simple kill.
You've chucked out all compatibility with Delphi compenents, even though there was some likeness in Kylix... Something just isn't making rational sense here.
I'm not really a big fan of Kylix, or PASCAL in general, but this ranting about how Kylix sucks because it isn't Delphi really chafes me. You'd figure that if Borland wanted a version of Delphi for Linux, they'd brand it... Delphi! Once again, Kylix is not Delphi, and was never advertised as such. What was advertised was the Delphi language, the same RAD experience, and a familiarity between libraries.
It shows what you said, you never were a fan of Borland, but I was. Until Kylix disgrace. By the way, I used Delphi as decent product that works, not comparing one to another. If you haven't noticed, most of my work are Linux cli deamons, and Delphi would really be inappropriate tool for them. So I could care less if Kylix isn't Delphi, but if it isn't working, hell THEN IT'S BROKEN
I think that the biggest problem with Kylix was that it only installed properly for one particular version of one particular distribution. They didn't quite know how to base everything off of standard runtime variables (as far as where the runtime libraries and crap are residing), so usage of Kylix in distros like Suse, Mandrake, or Gentoo was crashy at best
Ok, I use Redhat. Guess what now there's a Rock Linux too, maybe Kylix was made for Rock Linux. Because it wasn't working on Mandrake, Suse, Gentoo and Redhat.
It's quite obvious that you haven't tryed Kylix.
Maybe you should get your things right
1.If company makes a developmet tool, then "They didn't quite know how to base everything off of standard runtime variables (as far as where the runtime libraries and crap are residing)" is not a good excuse to put out some product which isn't working, and correct me if I'm wrong but to know that is what makes decent development tool
2.If product is poor and you're overpricing it, you can't expect that it will sell
3.Such crash production as Kylix (any_version) was shouldn't be diplayed even as pre-pre-prerelease beta
4.(That on is for you)Before you bitch about someone bitcin' at least try the thing
For my use, it's the right tool. I code mostly cli deamons.
Sadly, I must admit I'm one of the few people whose usage is specific in that way that Lazarus is a very good and sufficient tool
Here are the reasons why Lazarus does not belong in Delphi league
1. It's GTK1, so... no international fonts support, but as I see GTK2 is progressing very well
2. Some fancy features are yet to come in freepascal, but again progressing nicely
3. debugger is weird, it doubles watches, and watches crash IDE a lot, but still a lot better with every new version
4. no integrated help, and I don't need it
5. No database components, at least not finished, then again progressing very nicely
6. No reporting components
Ask that question in few months again, probably response would be a lot different, at least based on reading mailing list archives. Bug fixing and efforts put in Lazarus are enourmous, probably one of the best record of bug fixing ever. Sometimes not even 15 minutes, but almost every bug is fixed in a lot-less-than-daily matter in cvs. Kudos to the Lazarus team, and I really wish them well on replacing Kylix and Delphi as alternative
1. Take a look at blender, one for all
2. ~user (I mean users home)
3. Yes every distro has different button, I agree
4. They all support apt rpm and deb
5. Just yesterday I got fedora, funny thing it's already on all my 3 personal PCs, from 2-5AM (yes all my software and preferences along with mails address books, themes, my likes and dislikes, gimp1.3, scribus, sodipodi etc) and still have the same amount of money, now you do that in 3 hours, that time includes cd burning too, by the way all of the work was done on one machine, network install
6. WINE. Why would I need WIne, to run Outlook maybe? Yeah right on the day I burn in hell
7. Well NVidia, tvout, sblive and everything along with my wacom is working perfectly, compaq evo800v is working perfectly, one is older PC for testing purposes of new distro as a server (I still plan to deploy RH( as server for quite some time, upgrade to fedora is just too simple)
8. While Evolution looks better than any Outlook, and sound juicer is just too lovable to compare to any other ripping app. Mplayer is still far, far the best movie player ever, etc. I guess you get the point
9. I would never convince anybody to use Suse, hell even I don't like it. RH was the choice, but with fedora it has gone to way better distro (difference between speed and responsiveness under RH9 and fedora is uncomparable).
10. In Linux, there is a well based free quality, if product isn't good enough just like Kylix, that product just drops out of race being rolled over by free alternative
Sadly, I believe in Lamborghini, but as much a I would like to buy one, I haven't got enough money to spend, maybe if I cut my lunch for a month, well then... maybe:)
Yes, unfortunately. I buyed one in the same package as Delphi. While Delphi rocks, Kylix sucks (Kylix is a product finished in some obscure way that would fit in Hitchikers Guide perfectly, it would make a great 6th book).
But probably you're just a troll that doesn't know what does he talks about so I wonder if it was worth to answer.
Actualy, you're wrong.
1. It was both early and late
No, to put it simple, kylix sucked major
2. There is a considerable dislike towards borland in the professional development community
Just as you said it, that statement is valid for your environment, mine, well completely different opinion
As one of ex-delphi developers I can say that. And here are the reasons (Yes, I was very eager to try every version of kylix, but every version lasted exactly for one or two days until it was deleted out of complete outrage)
Reasons
1. I've never developed in such unstable environment as kylix was, crashing all over the place in such manner that even my room was a mess. Reason for this is probably mostly IDE itself which is writen in some obscure way with using wine as main element for maintaining compatibility
2. Components were very lacking, there was almost no compatibility between delphi and kylix (except simple forms), let's say DBGrid, while in delphi just worked while on the other hand Kylix always wanted to have tables opened in some special way, but Kylix didn't provide that (at least in help and maybe I wasn't testing it enough, but fact is, Delphi just worked, Kylix didn't)
3. Kylix was slow as hell, delphi fast
4. They didn't provide not even a simple Reporting component, where the hell is printing, delphi on the other hand has TQuickReport
5. I wrote a few questions on Borland and hoped that I will at least get answer about plans, (fact is that I don't like Qt) and didn't get answer on any of my question exceeeept that this person is not available and it will answer me when it returns, I guess he's still on that bussines trip, by the way I was a constant Borland customer, having valid C++ Builder and all Delphi versions. It's sad if they treated me like that, I just wonder how they treated non-buying customers
5. Basis of my linux software is not some obscure gui, but mostly cli deamons. Kylix was suitable for that job just like someone said that Windows98 command prompt equals bash
6. There's far better product for writing in pascal, not finished though, but I find my self enjoy working with it. Freepascal and Lazarus. GUI mode is still lacking, components are lacking, but both projects show far better perspective than kylix ever has (and fast as hell). As for me, it rocks, because all the lacking parts are not a need, they would eventualy maybe become a feature.
Overall, if they want to ever sell in this market they have to continue keeping the barrier to entusiasts low or near zero and continue trying to sell
If they wanted to sell, then they shouldn't sell bullshit, selling bullshit never pays, except maybe for M$
Well, if that hels you anything.
My notebook is Compaq evo n800v with all the same frustrations as you mentioned, update was perfect in beta2
Actually if you'd read you'd know that redhat-pacakges now supports apt and yum too. Along with external repositories
so, no success on that one. But as previous poster wanted to upgrade system, I doubt he'd succed to upgrade from rh to gentoo. rh to fedora went flawless for me.
Actually, I would urge them differently.
1. Redhat has given great gift to the community, but ass-for-brains like you wouldn't notice that, just because you react without actually reading what project is
2. Redhat still has Redhat Enteprise WS, which is really great desktop, and as it looks it's getting on a professional corporate level, which is very very nice
3. RH9 was friendly enough
Yeah, right Suse (by the way Suse is the only one I plan to try in future, at least now that Novell had aquired it along with Ximian, that might really be interesting) and Lycoris being desktop friendly, I'm a gnome use for god sake. Install gnome manually, yeah, right, like I care.
Mandrake, as long as distro doesn't work as polished as Redhat or as MDK8 was, no way.
Ark & JAMD, yeah right what will I be? user #3???
Gentoo, you're right, it takes ages to install yes, and some of us lives depend on computers so we don't have ages.
Yes, YOU CAN fonts:
This is a distribution for the release early, release often crowd. The primary release (which this is) should be treated as being a reasonable base to build on.
Actually it's very, very stable. test2 release on my notebook works like a charm, not even a single bug slowed me down, and I'm really looking forward on upgrade.
By the way when installing I was upgrading over RH9, that job went flawless for the first time now, not a simple bug
I think I can answer you that.
Fedora Core is the best Redhat so far, I'm using it flawlesly on my notebook since beta2.
Being in bussiness of which important part is Linux on desktop, I'm really happy with this decision. While normal distro is cool for normal user, it's not so good for corporate user.
Reasons:
1. Don't need 5 programs fo each need, I need one, and one that works.
2. Don't need such urge on being up2date with everything
3. I want terrily tested and really working stable distro
4. Give me a clean distro and I'm filling only the gaps that don't suit me or the gaps that are not covered
As home user:
1. I want to test software to decide which one is better
2. If let's say Gnome 2.6 would be today, today would be the day I would be installing it, some softwares I keep daily with cvs
3. I want everything
4. Read 3, I have everything
DIfferences between Fedora Core and Readhat WS Professional are the same as I stated with previous descriptions.
But as here Fedora Core is just a test bed for Redhat WS (difference is as follows, al features are tested in Fedora before they are implemented in WS, Fedora Core is accessible for users to interact but WS isn't, Fedora will support outside package repository, WS won't), everything goes as I want, I get one fresh and up2date and one stable for the price of one.
Why should you run this? Because people that were bitchin over Debian being more_free, well this Redhat is practically the same but with Redhat support, because developers are still working on Fedora, hell they test there things for WS, so I doubt that Redhat would stop working on Fedeora.
Killing their desktop? No, they just extended it to likes of more people
Amen, brother:)
But Lucas fucked this a little bit when after "Empire Strikes Back" was second movie, suddenly he proclaimed it for the 5th.
Episode 2 really sucks. Lucas changed history so previous poster could be right:)
Actualy, mostly correct.
Neo is part of Matrix (he is software), crucial part that turns the wheel when matrix gets confused looking to other directions.
Exiting the Matrix would mean end of Neo, and as long as Neo is in story, there's just another level in matrix. Because no one said that real world is real. And the world after that, based on architects saying they anticipated such ocasions (I'm basing that on simple saying that people are happy just as long as they can revolt), and the only decisive moment for such occasion is when people need to feel that change occures, Neo is here just a safety loop in a matrix software and servers a throwing dust into eyes of the people to feel the change is occuring.
What probably follows next. Well I say: Matrix 4: Level 3. Even lamer sequel than 2.
One was great in fact perfect and had a great ending which would really satisfy my ego,
I stopped watching 2 after 1 hour and exited the cinema, but when my friend said that there was talking with architect, I just had to see if I was correct what I was thinking (hail for divx, I wouldn't pay again for the matrix if someone was forcing me). Yep, I was. A really lame and predictable story.
3 I'm not interested.
4, gets lamer after being lame...etc
The lamest thing in matrix is Neo. As he was mostly beaten in 1, I must admit Keanu is getting beaten with very good acting. But when he actualy tries to fight in 2, for god sake, will next kung fu star be Danny De Vito or what?
The best thing in the movie: Trinity good looking, nice legs and very elegant in fighting scenes. Actualy the only actor that seems to know how to fight in this movie.
What can I say about Morpheous... well he's black (no offence, not in racistic way, that's the only thing that he does well, he fights... well still better than Neo but still like somebody stuck a broom in his ass, he has over bullshit act with moronic overpuffed voice and lame comments:)
Next time the Watchowski brothers try to make a kung fu movie, well they should hire actors that know what kung fu is.
I know that
Yeah, but SCO does not use them it redistributes them in their OS. God Damn. SCO is reselling their OS, and if that's not a distribution problem I don't know what it is
I wonder how GPL licensed products could even be possible for SCO to use.
Section 5 and 7 clearly prohibit use of GPL-licensed products if somebody does not agree with it. And SCO proclaiming "GPL is invalid" is doing just that thing, they don't agree with the license provided with the products.
And even if SCO would get something from this stupidity, US couldn't proclaim GPL invalid worldwide, what would probably lead to GPL 3 which would restrict usage of GPL-ed products in US, just as security problems is now.
Second thing I wonder is when Samba in open spirit did nothing to prevent SCO from use. Why is there a need for free spirit in GPL when SCO clearly breaches two sections of GPL license, as in "You can use it if you agree".
I think that it will be better if Samba and other GPL teams act and prohibit use of their products otherwise they are clear example how GPL license is something for the taste but not to eat as in "You can read it, but we don't care if you agree or not".
To conclude, sections 5 and 7 prohibit use of anybody who disagree with license, and as license would be invalid (and that's a big IF:) authors restrictions wouldn't be.
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CD Burner was running on Toast probably
3DFX provided their own drivers
IDE drive is IDE drive and that was the only component which you could insert it in and know it will work, although there was a time when HDT was needed to format those drives.
I was using Macs (not as some DTP user, I was servicing them), and still am for about 7 years now, so you could say that I know a little about them
You missed the point, completely. What I was reffering was system base support for hardware, as in, you insert CDROM, and CDROM works without any interferance or drivers. And that support was clearly defined that in Panther now ATAPI drives work that way (by previous poster).
Damn, you got me there:) Apple never had support for any non-Apple hardware without proprietary drivers from other providers.
Well, times change I guess:)
Yep, you got it right and not ...uueee, but first you've got to get Mac with LG drive to test wheter it will fuck up this drive or not. But fortunate for you, you can't
How is this any different?
Quite obvious, while Nazis were stopped long ago, M$ is still torchering current population
Sorry t let you know, but there are some people on the world that don't like Photoshop interface, and I'm one of them. Xinerama over 3 highres 22" monitors, well Photoshop i just a lame excuse to use on that.
Gimp interface rocks.